Crowd control would help. It's been an issue at most of the shows.

Clare said:

Real security is needed. Not difficult. Issue wrist bands as people arrive. If haven't got one then no entry and no late arrival queue jumpers.

People have got numbers on their hands so what difference will wristbands make?

People who just come along and want a piece of the action do not care about wristbands or numbers or even know about that.

egansmind said:

KeithyT said:

It will probably be a very few idiots spoiling the experience for others. Sigh.

So much for these Hit & Run shows being for hardcore fans only

Looks like every tom dick and harry is trying to get in on the act

Only answer - Ticketed Events

Problem with doing ticketed events for small gigs like this, is the likes of Viagogo and co will be at their legalised touting. I experienced this recently trying to get tickets for The Cure in the Royal Albert Hall. Some one of those companies were touting tickets within an hour of sale for about 8 times the face value. Interesting and disgusting thing about that though, is that those particular gigs are for the Teenage cancer trust. I have sent e-mails about this to the venue, and The Cure's representatives.

Whitnail said:

egansmind said:

So much for these Hit & Run shows being for hardcore fans only

Looks like every tom dick and harry is trying to get in on the act

Only answer - Ticketed Events

Problem with doing ticketed events for small gigs like this, is the likes of Viagogo and co will be at their legalised touting. I experienced this recently trying to get tickets for The Cure in the Royal Albert Hall. Some one of those companies were touting tickets within an hour of sale for about 8 times the face value. Interesting and disgusting thing about that though, is that those particular gigs are for the Teenage cancer trust. I have sent e-mails about this to the venue, and The Cure's representatives.

It should be made clear that ID should be shown to match ticket name to get into the event

99.9% of artists use the normal ticket selling methods so I dont know why Prince should not

or you could go as far as saying maybe Prince should not be playing Ronnie Scotts ?

Lets face it around 200 people will get in !!!

He sold 400,000 tickets in 2007 for this o2 residency so maybe this chaos should be expected

Too big for the venue

egansmind said:

jjam said:

The answer is security/better security.

You cannot blame Ronnie Scotts my friend whe you have a crowd of a couple of thousand people outside their club with no tickets all trying to get in. On top of that you will have general passes by and tourists who will fancy a piece of the action.

What planet you on? of course it is Scotts problem, where are thy Qing? they should give them in the q a ticket and then there would be no problem

powersoul99 said:

egansmind said:

You cannot blame Ronnie Scotts my friend whe you have a crowd of a couple of thousand people outside their club with no tickets all trying to get in. On top of that you will have general passes by and tourists who will fancy a piece of the action.

What planet you on? of course it is Scotts problem, where are thy Qing? they should give them in the q a ticket and then there would be no problem

Hands have been numbered havent they!!

Thats your ticket

egansmind said:

powersoul99 said:

What planet you on? of course it is Scotts problem, where are thy Qing? they should give them in the q a ticket and then there would be no problem

Hands have been numbered havent they!!

Thats your ticket

Yeah, coz nobody can write a number on their own hand can they?

TheEnglishGent said:

powersoul99 said:

egansmind said:

You cannot blame Ronnie Scotts my friend whe you have a crowd of a couple of thousand people outside their club with no tickets all trying to get in. On top of that you will have general passes by and tourists who will fancy a piece of the action.

What planet you on? of course it is Scotts problem, where are thy Qing? they should give them in the q a ticket and then there would be no problem

Its not Scotts problem at all, their problem is their venue, thats what the insurance covers, The crowd control is Princes problem for announcing it, His team should have provided adequate security knowning full well how many will turn up, Unless Prince pays Ronnies to get extra security why should they?

Lets face it there has been some sort of chaos at every show so far

Blaming Ronnie Scotts who are only told at last minute what the demands are is not really fair

Lets face it the venue is really small and not geared up for thousands of people

Why are there thousands outside ? Because of no ticketing, thats why !

egansmind said:

Whitnail said:

Problem with doing ticketed events for small gigs like this, is the likes of Viagogo and co will be at their legalised touting. I experienced this recently trying to get tickets for The Cure in the Royal Albert Hall. Some one of those companies were touting tickets within an hour of sale for about 8 times the face value. Interesting and disgusting thing about that though, is that those particular gigs are for the Teenage cancer trust. I have sent e-mails about this to the venue, and The Cure's representatives.

It should be made clear that ID should be shown to match ticket name to get into the event

99.9% of artists use the normal ticket selling methods so I dont know why Prince should not

After the fiasco with The Cure, which was the week before the Prince gigs, I assumed I had no chance to get a ticket. In the end, I got lucky and saw 3 shows. However, it is not something I would want to do on a regular basis. So yes, there should be some method to the ticketing of the shows. That at Ronnies tonight is a total joke, I am not sure what they are thinking, especially in Soho, it is packed all the time anyway. Will be interesting what happens when the doors open.

egansmind said:

Whitnail said:

Problem with doing ticketed events for small gigs like this, is the likes of Viagogo and co will be at their legalised touting. I experienced this recently trying to get tickets for The Cure in the Royal Albert Hall. Some one of those companies were touting tickets within an hour of sale for about 8 times the face value. Interesting and disgusting thing about that though, is that those particular gigs are for the Teenage cancer trust. I have sent e-mails about this to the venue, and The Cure's representatives.

It should be made clear that ID should be shown to match ticket name to get into the event

99.9% of artists use the normal ticket selling methods so I dont know why Prince should not

I think doing tickets is more complicated that it might seem at short notice, There is obviously reasons why all the shows have been Cash Only, when you buy off ticket companies, you have to pay booking fee's they also get a payment per ticket, and all the money goes into their bank account, it will then have to be sorted for VAT reasons and delays the payment to the Artists further. this way, the money all stays in Princes hands from the start and cuts out the middle men. Lets face it people will complain either way, I think if people want to be there they can queue from early, where as if people wanted to buy tickets online, chances are touts would have snapped up a few each to sell on. He's keeping it to one ticket per person on entry the way it is.

Has this started yet? One or two shows? I still havent seen confirmation

Whitnail said:

egansmind said:

It should be made clear that ID should be shown to match ticket name to get into the event

99.9% of artists use the normal ticket selling methods so I dont know why Prince should not

After the fiasco with The Cure, which was the week before the Prince gigs, I assumed I had no chance to get a ticket. In the end, I got lucky and saw 3 shows. However, it is not something I would want to do on a regular basis. So yes, there should be some method to the ticketing of the shows. That at Ronnies tonight is a total joke, I am not sure what they are thinking, especially in Soho, it is packed all the time anyway. Will be interesting what happens when the doors open.

Off the subject slightly.

I am hoping to get tickets for the upcoming Cure tour at the end of the year

Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss me were outstanding albums and I hope I can see them played in full. I wonder were they will play ?

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[Edited 2/17/14 16:05pm]

3QuartersInAGlass said:

Has this started yet? One or two shows? I still havent seen confirmation

Someone just tweeted that the first show started with them playing Stratus.

egansmind said:

Whitnail said:

After the fiasco with The Cure, which was the week before the Prince gigs, I assumed I had no chance to get a ticket. In the end, I got lucky and saw 3 shows. However, it is not something I would want to do on a regular basis. So yes, there should be some method to the ticketing of the shows. That at Ronnies tonight is a total joke, I am not sure what they are thinking, especially in Soho, it is packed all the time anyway. Will be interesting what happens when the doors open.

Off the subject slightly.

I am hoping to get tickets for the upcoming Cure tour at the end of the year

Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss me were outstanding albums and I hope I can see them played in full. I wonder were they will play ?

The Cure are great - never caught them live though

Im tempted to try my luck with show 2... nothing ventured, nothing gained..

egansmind said:

Whitnail said:

After the fiasco with The Cure, which was the week before the Prince gigs, I assumed I had no chance to get a ticket. In the end, I got lucky and saw 3 shows. However, it is not something I would want to do on a regular basis. So yes, there should be some method to the ticketing of the shows. That at Ronnies tonight is a total joke, I am not sure what they are thinking, especially in Soho, it is packed all the time anyway. Will be interesting what happens when the doors open.

Off the subject slightly.

I am hoping to get tickets for the upcoming Cure tour at the end of the year

Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss me were outstanding albums and I hope I can see them played in full. I wonder were they will play ?

Must admit I did not know they were going to do a tour, thats great news. They are a great band, got into them around the same time as i got into Prince. 17 Seconds and Disintergration are fantastic albums as well. Disintergration took me years to get into, but it is probably my fav album from them now. There is a very good DVD called Trilogy, where they play Pornography, Disintergration and Bloodflowers complete in one concert.

TheEnglishGent said:

3QuartersInAGlass said:

Has this started yet? One or two shows? I still havent seen confirmation

Someone just tweeted that the first show started with them playing Stratus.

I'd love to hear 'when u were mine'

egansmind said:

3QuartersInAGlass said:

Im tempted to try my luck with show 2... nothing ventured, nothing gained..

Nuts...

Whitnail said:

egansmind said:

So much for these Hit & Run shows being for hardcore fans only

Looks like every tom dick and harry is trying to get in on the act

Only answer - Ticketed Events

Problem with doing ticketed events for small gigs like this, is the likes of Viagogo and co will be at their legalised touting. I experienced this recently trying to get tickets for The Cure in the Royal Albert Hall. Some one of those companies were touting tickets within an hour of sale for about 8 times the face value. Interesting and disgusting thing about that though, is that those particular gigs are for the Teenage cancer trust. I have sent e-mails about this to the venue, and The Cure's representatives.

Getting Cure tix was easy compared to this and you can still get face value tickets now if you look around the forums, theres no need to go to viagogo.

But this hit'n'run tour has been pretty much impossible if you have any kind of home/work commitments, I'd love to go but not going to happen without advance tickets

Back to lurking...

egansmind said:

KeithyT said:

It will probably be a very few idiots spoiling the experience for others. Sigh.

So much for these Hit & Run shows being for hardcore fans only

Looks like every tom dick and harry is trying to get in on the act

Only answer - Ticketed Events

At least the on the door policy will, I suspect, result in the majority of the extremely dedicated being rewarded. I don't disagree that there sounds like there should be better organisation if Prince continues down that route but I'm not entirely sure whether the responsibility lies with the artist or the venue in these situations.

Ticketed events - especially in a venue this size - will result in the crowd consisting of:

a - the lucky

b - the rich (who buy the touted tickets initially purchased by the opportunistic)

Neither scenario is ideal....but, as I've said before, life isn't fair and there's no way to keep everybody happy.

People in queue tweeting '2nd show promised'

MissMarySharon said: