Hey, that really was a shit stunt to pull yesterday - given the bad weather, travel chaos etc.did anyone take the bait & travel down especially? I wonder what goes through P's head sometimes - does he hate goodwill & seek to destroy it as soon as he recieves it? I was nearly going to go!, then the org collapsed so I didn't risk it thankfully as I rely on that more than twitter for updates.

On a side note I think a huge apology is due from them!

No. Went to the pub.

funkyhead said:

Hey, that really was a shit stunt to pull yesterday - given the bad weather, travel chaos etc.did anyone take the bait & travel down especially? I wonder what goes through P's head sometimes - does he hate goodwill & seek to destroy it as soon as he recieves it? I was nearly going to go!, then the org collapsed so I didn't risk it thankfully as I rely on that more than twitter for updates.

On a side note I think a huge apology is due from them!

Why are you blaming Prince and not his management?

Getting tired of the moaning on here

dayzofwyld said:

funkyhead said:

Hey, that really was a shit stunt to pull yesterday - given the bad weather, travel chaos etc.did anyone take the bait & travel down especially? I wonder what goes through P's head sometimes - does he hate goodwill & seek to destroy it as soon as he recieves it? I was nearly going to go!, then the org collapsed so I didn't risk it thankfully as I rely on that more than twitter for updates.

On a side note I think a huge apology is due from them!

Why are you blaming Prince and not his management?

Getting tired of the moaning on here

perhaps the fact they work for Prince and only do what they r asked..

dayzofwyld said:

funkyhead said:

Hey, that really was a shit stunt to pull yesterday - given the bad weather, travel chaos etc.did anyone take the bait & travel down especially? I wonder what goes through P's head sometimes - does he hate goodwill & seek to destroy it as soon as he recieves it? I was nearly going to go!, then the org collapsed so I didn't risk it thankfully as I rely on that more than twitter for updates.

On a side note I think a huge apology is due from them!

Why are you blaming Prince and not his management?

Getting tired of the moaning on here

YES BLAME THE MANAGEMENT - The very nature of a "Hit n Run" tour is that it is announced at short notice. When the manager of the artist tweets, and I quote:

Hello #princearmy... out of interest... who is willing to pay £70 for a show tonight? #princewatch #princeUKtour @3RDEYEGIRL

Then if that is not taken as a heavy hint to get travelling and ready for a gig I don't know what is. Problem is nothing came after. I have no problem if she has come back within an hour or two and said "sorry guys we tried to sort out a venue but couldn't" but to have complete radio silence and not even acknowledge that this was a cock up is simply rude and disrespectful to the fans who are the people that pay her bloody wages (by paying for Prince's stuff).

It IS the responsibility of the manager of an artist to have the fans interest in mind too. A good manager knows that it is the fans who are ultimately the most important thing because without them the artist may as well retreat to their garage and play music to themselves.

As I said, I accept (even if I do not like and would personally prefer to buy an advanced ticket) the concept of "Hit n Run" - but handle it in such a way as to also look after the interests of the fans. Do not confuse hype with fun!!!!!

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[Edited 2/14/14 4:36am]

jaypotton said:

dayzofwyld said:

Why are you blaming Prince and not his management?

Getting tired of the moaning on here

YES BLAME THE MANAGEMENT - YOU ARE WRONG - SERIOUSLY! The very nature of a "Hit n Run" tour is that it is announced at short notice. When the manager of the artist tweets, and I quote:

Hello #princearmy... out of interest... who is willing to pay £70 for a show tonight? #princewatch #princeUKtour @3RDEYEGIRL

Then if that is not taken as a heavy hint to get travelling and ready for a gig I don't know what is. Problem is nothing came after. I have no problem if she has come back within an hour or two and said "sorry guys we tried to sort out a venue but couldn't" but to have complete radio silence and not even acknowledge that this was a cock up is simply rude and disrespectful to the fans who are the people that pay her bloody wages (by paying for Prince's stuff).

It IS the responsibility of the manager of an artist to have the fans interest in mind too. A good manager knows that it is the fans who are ultimately the most important thing because without them the artist may as well retreat to their garage and play music to themselves.

As I said, I accept (even if I do not like and would personally prefer to buy an advanced ticket) the concept of "Hit n Run" - but handle it in such a way as to also look after the interests of the fans. Do not confuse hype with fun!!!!!

[Edited 2/14/14 4:22am]

How have they been normally announcing these shows?

So, what's going on then? Is there a gig tonight or not? I'm through with this game playing. Why can't they just say yes or no. It's not difficult is it.

Byron said:

jaypotton said:

YES BLAME THE MANAGEMENT - YOU ARE WRONG - SERIOUSLY! The very nature of a "Hit n Run" tour is that it is announced at short notice. When the manager of the artist tweets, and I quote:

Hello #princearmy... out of interest... who is willing to pay £70 for a show tonight? #princewatch #princeUKtour @3RDEYEGIRL

Then if that is not taken as a heavy hint to get travelling and ready for a gig I don't know what is. Problem is nothing came after. I have no problem if she has come back within an hour or two and said "sorry guys we tried to sort out a venue but couldn't" but to have complete radio silence and not even acknowledge that this was a cock up is simply rude and disrespectful to the fans who are the people that pay her bloody wages (by paying for Prince's stuff).

It IS the responsibility of the manager of an artist to have the fans interest in mind too. A good manager knows that it is the fans who are ultimately the most important thing because without them the artist may as well retreat to their garage and play music to themselves.

As I said, I accept (even if I do not like and would personally prefer to buy an advanced ticket) the concept of "Hit n Run" - but handle it in such a way as to also look after the interests of the fans. Do not confuse hype with fun!!!!!

[Edited 2/14/14 4:22am]

How have they been normally announcing these shows?

No fixed pattern sadly. Twitter certainly but also radio shows. Word just gets around. Bit of a free for all.

Byron said:

jaypotton said:

YES BLAME THE MANAGEMENT - YOU ARE WRONG - SERIOUSLY! The very nature of a "Hit n Run" tour is that it is announced at short notice. When the manager of the artist tweets, and I quote:

Hello #princearmy... out of interest... who is willing to pay £70 for a show tonight? #princewatch #princeUKtour @3RDEYEGIRL

Then if that is not taken as a heavy hint to get travelling and ready for a gig I don't know what is. Problem is nothing came after. I have no problem if she has come back within an hour or two and said "sorry guys we tried to sort out a venue but couldn't" but to have complete radio silence and not even acknowledge that this was a cock up is simply rude and disrespectful to the fans who are the people that pay her bloody wages (by paying for Prince's stuff).

It IS the responsibility of the manager of an artist to have the fans interest in mind too. A good manager knows that it is the fans who are ultimately the most important thing because without them the artist may as well retreat to their garage and play music to themselves.

As I said, I accept (even if I do not like and would personally prefer to buy an advanced ticket) the concept of "Hit n Run" - but handle it in such a way as to also look after the interests of the fans. Do not confuse hype with fun!!!!!

[Edited 2/14/14 4:22am]

How have they been normally announcing these shows?

Well, bear in mind there have only been 3 nights so far. The Shepherds Bush gig last Sunday was announce by the band live on air on the BBC6 radio station just B4 noon the day of the show.

The Weds at Electric Ballroom was announced on the 3rd Eye Girl and his manager Kiran Sharma twitter pages, again on the day of the show; the 2nd gig that night was the security guys on the door telling the fans who never made it in to the 1st show that there would be a 2nd show.

DoMeBaby69 said:

So, what's going on then? Is there a gig tonight or not? I'm through with this game playing. Why can't they just say yes or no. It's not difficult is it.

Yeah...this watching was fun for a while, but its wearing thin. And I get that Prince doesn't owe us jack, but the longer it goes on I feel like the momentum and buzz from last Sunday's show is dying down a bit...

Back up North now. I travelled down, i was already going anyway with a mate who's girlfriend lives in Kentish Town, i stopped over at theirs for free so can't complain too loudly. Had a decent night out in Camden anyway. But it obviously could have been better.

I feel sorry for people who drove down/booked flights after Kiran's irresponsible tweet around midday. People were begging her later on to say if it was on or not. That would have been reasonable.

I think she's a disgrace to be honest. Prince must share some blame, he'll have given her the nod to tweet.

What kind of tour is this anyway?

Why do people think that with Hit & Run shows it is ok to p**s fans off ?

Thats not the thinking behind it but it is slowly becoming more and more annoying.

Tease there is a gig, fans travel and then no show - thats poor whatever way you look at it

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egansmind said:

Why do people think that with Hit & Run shows it is ok to p**s fans off ?

Thats not the thinking behind it but it is slowly becoming more and more annoying.

Tease there is a gig, fans travel and then no show - thats poor whatever way you look at it

[Edited 2/14/14 6:04am]

Good point. I don't think any fans have a problem with the nature of hit and run, because even though its short notice we can still organise ourselves. Get the definitive announcement out on the usual channels around lunchtime, show performed that evening...its easy these days with various internet channels.

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Its these half rumours and suggestions from P's management that are the problem, because there is absolutely no need for it. When you've got real announcements, make them, if not stay off Twitter. Kiran and the rest aren't that stupid...they must look on Twitter and see the havoc a cryptic message causes for people...

DaveT said:

egansmind said:

Why do people think that with Hit & Run shows it is ok to p**s fans off ?

Thats not the thinking behind it but it is slowly becoming more and more annoying.

Tease there is a gig, fans travel and then no show - thats poor whatever way you look at it

[Edited 2/14/14 6:04am]

Good point. I don't think any fans have a problem with the nature of hit and run, because even though its short notice we can still organise ourselves. Get the definitive announcement out on the usual channels around lunchtime, show performed that evening...its easy these days with various internet channels.

/

Its these half rumours and suggestions from P's management that are the problem, because there is absolutely no need for it. When you've got real announcements, make them, if not stay off Twitter. Kiran and the rest aren't that stupid...they must look on Twitter and see the havoc a cryptic message causes for people...

I agree, Prince's people should not tweet/post any rumours, only confirmed events, or at least if they tweet and plans fall through (these things happen), go back on and let the fans knows so they do not act on it. I'm guessing his management are enjoying being in the spotlight a little too much with the fans hanging on every tit bit they feed, Prince should take a look at the behaviour of his team.

I travelled from Manchester Sunday lunchtime after a confirmed announcement on the radio, was happy to take my chances without a ticket as long as there was a possibility of getting in, luckily I got in to a great gig!

Equally, fans now need to consider that travelling on a rumour is precisely that, there is no guarantee and based on the last 2 weeks, you will be lucky if anything happens if you travel before an official announcement, unfortunately, this is how it is working out, it should be organised better, but it isn't, so we need to work with the info we are given.

I remember the good old day, when Hit and Run meant you got a weeks notice.

SquirrelMeat said:

I remember the good old day, when Hit and Run meant you got a weeks notice.

I'd take that over 3rdEye's dumbass tweets.... "The green giraffe wears trousers on the moon"...so the gigs tonight then?

Wonder what the shortest notice ever has been for a gig.

I went down about 4pm, drove around a few venues & then hung out at the EB til 9pm. Then went around Soho (& then back to Camden, just in case!!) & nothing.

If I said to my mates 'Would anyone like to come to the pub tonight?' they'd take it that I'm going to the pub...piss poor communication as always

Tonight was just no way, it's bloody next door to Kings X!! I started to drive the 80 miles, but after 30 mins I saw the queue & just knew it ain't gonna happen.

Getting pretty angry with it now, as I really am trying!! Just constantly seems to shit on his fans & have had so, so many episodes of disappointment with him over the years, I question why I put myself through it.

Am happy for those that are there though....

SquirrelMeat said:

I remember the good old day, when Hit and Run meant you got a weeks notice.

It's just not possible to get to these gigs at the moment. Even 24 hours notice would be something...at least you could drive down & camp the bloody night if you wanted too

I love Prince but ain't no way I'm running around the city with hopes for a show. Too old for that!

Not giving anyone an excuse but if that was all the tweet stated, I advise against going anywhere until a venue is listed. I wouldnt be running around based on a hint.

That's my two cents. I hope yall have a good time in London.

DaveT said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I remember the good old day, when Hit and Run meant you got a weeks notice.

I'd take that over 3rdEye's dumbass tweets.... "The green giraffe wears trousers on the moon"...so the gigs tonight then?

That is freakin' hilarious!!!