tashbootlegs said:

Who would be a Prince fan? Bloody murder this, am seriously contemplating jumping on the bus from Glasgow tonight to be down there all day Saturday in nothing but hope. I must be crazy! If only his manager replied to some tweets asking questions about info instead of retweeting folk kissing her arse telling her how great she is!

Do you think there is a chance they might come up to Glasgow and play somewhere like King Tuts or the Barras? Both venues would be excellent.

Rorywan said:

I think what Prince/Kiran need to realise is that most of his hardcore fans are probably in their mid-30's upwards and have been following him for around 30 years.

This means most of us have jobs and lives outside Prince and can't just up and leave to head to a gig at 10-11pm at the drop of a hat... to wait for him to come on stage at 1am for 60 minutes.

I'm too old to play the game of hanging around outside a venue in the cold and rain in case Prince is playing there and i'm sure im not alone.

Good luck to all those who are putting in the graft to catch a gig.

Rorywan said:

Well we were all set to get tickets, book flights etc. now I'm starting not to care. Talk about taking the joy out of something. I seriously can't bear to read another shitting tweet about buying Pretzelbloodylogic or another arse licking tweet telling Kiran how great she is. Then to read it again after she retweets it. I think they are missing the point here, and they are appealing to only a small percentage of their UK/European fan base. No kids? Check. willing to stand in line for 8 hours. Check. Happy to be rewarded with concerts of no determinable length. Check. But that's cool because we only charged you £10. Personally this type of tripe is not for me. Not knocking the 1000 or so fans willing to do this, I did most of the 21 nights and after shows myself, but this is just frustrating and aggravating. It's even making me hate the Plectrum album before I hear it. what kind of PR is that? Make the lucky minority happy, exclude the majority? Bad news, but then again it's what we have come to expect from P.

HERE HERE ! I AGREE !

fnksoul said:

freakyfeet said:

I would have thought it more likely he plays midweek purely down to venue availability.

This clearly isn't pre-booked so it's unlikely a venue will kick out a long-standing artist for a £10 a pop little fella.

You'd be suprised, Venues are begging for him to play, Kiran just tweeted saying basically her emails have been going mad and this pic, the exposure it will bring a venue is worth kicking out a no body to let prince play.

So you're saying, his manager, who used to work in PR, has made a statement showing prime venues are desperate for him to play and has used the "Shoreditch Grand" as an example?

Hmmm, OK.

If I was an agent / promoter who had an artist who found a venue had kicked me out for what they consider a one night PR stunt I would never book them again - VERY shallow.

Stop looking at this as a Prince fan and think objectively. If they're that much in demand, why are they sitting in hotel rooms tonight ?

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[Edited 2/7/14 13:32pm]

FunkyAphrodite said:

I'm too old to play the game of hanging around outside a venue in the cold and rain in case Prince is playing there and i'm sure im not alone.

You know what, last Monday I would have said the same, then on Wednesday I queued for over 6 hours in the cold and the rain.

bubblebath said:

udo said:

TheEnglishGent said:

FunkyAphrodite said:

I'm too old to play the game of hanging around outside a venue in the cold and rain in case Prince is playing there and i'm sure im not alone.

You know what, last Monday I would have said the same, then on Wednesday I queued for over 6 hours in the cold and the rain.

Good on you for that - and good luck to anyone who has the time and lives/works within a reasonable distance to the (last minute announced) venues.

My choice to sit in the warm with a glass of wine and wait for something firm that can be booked online!

......saying that i might wander up town Sunday day just on the off chance!

Took the day off today, 'still waiting'.

Good to see some familiar names from 2007. Partyman, I think I remember you, and a few others. Didn't he play 'Partyman' at the Indigo aftershow on 21 Sep 07?? I came to the pub meet up before the last show and got some glowsticks from someone I think I still owe money to!

Got a ticket for last aftershow at Indigo as someone sold me his for face value. He went in, then couldn't be bothered to wait so he left! Money changed hands right in front of the bouncers but they still let me in!!

I am older, with more commitments, but still feel like a teenager when I'm checking the Org for updates (which has been all day today and most of the last two days).

Hope something happens. I'm in N London and ready to go!! Good luck everyone and thanks for the updates!

TheEnglishGent said:

FunkyAphrodite said:

I'm too old to play the game of hanging around outside a venue in the cold and rain in case Prince is playing there and i'm sure im not alone.

You know what, last Monday I would have said the same, then on Wednesday I queued for over 6 hours in the cold and the rain.

Yep ....If you need the funk ....you will seek it

TheMuppet said:

TheMuppet said:

tashbootlegs said:

Who would be a Prince fan? Bloody murder this, am seriously contemplating jumping on the bus from Glasgow tonight to be down there all day Saturday in nothing but hope. I must be crazy! If only his manager replied to some tweets asking questions about info instead of retweeting folk kissing her arse telling her how great she is!

Do you think there is a chance they might come up to Glasgow and play somewhere like King Tuts or the Barras? Both venues would be excellent.

FunkyAphrodite said:

I think what Prince/Kiran need to realise is that most of his hardcore fans are probably in their mid-30's upwards and have been following him for around 30 years.

This means most of us have jobs and lives outside Prince and can't just up and leave to head to a gig at 10-11pm at the drop of a hat... to wait for him to come on stage at 1am for 60 minutes.

I'm too old to play the game of hanging around outside a venue in the cold and rain in case Prince is playing there and i'm sure im not alone.

Good luck to all those who are putting in the graft to catch a gig.

Well, perhaps, just for once, he is not looking to that audience, he's trying to win some new, younger fans - what's wrong with that?

I'm amazed at all the negativity on here over him just doing something different. He has done the same old method of touring for aeons - none of his contemporaries would even dream of doing what he is doing today. And it is working - the coverage and props he is getting in the UK media is the best I've seen in years.

If you feel you're too old to do it, then fair enough. I'm 41 myself and have no issues with queueing, waiting in rain or perhaps dropping everything to make a gig. Thursday wasn't practical for me (I also have a 7-month old boy), but I will make one of the gigs for sure (haven't missed a Prince visit to the UK since the 80s!).

Lianachan said:

It seems like this "UK Tour" is delighting the press, is pleasing those who happen to be in the right place at the right time, but is annoying the hell out of his fans. You know, the people this ridiculous "tour" should be for.

Why? Why should he just tie himself to only ever doing a tour for established fans? What is wrong with him, for once, doing something different and trying to reach out to a different and younger audience?

Jeez, he steps out of the box once and just because there's some whinging fannies who can't be arsed to do anything that involves them getting out of an armchair and perhaps taking a bit of a risk for a change, then he's now just being ridiculous?!

Pure selfishness on your part - Prince won't do it how you want it, so you throw your toys out the pram. Well, stay in your pram

Mindflux said:

You can see all sides of the argument. Me, a family man of three kids, managed to organise childcare for tomorrow into sunday,but had had a nightmare trying to book travel into london, card keeps erroring so not going down now, all the way from sunny sheffield! I do think though he will play tomorrow night. Especially if he doesnt play tonight! So i am feeling abit deflated!

freakyfeet said:

fnksoul said:

You'd be suprised, Venues are begging for him to play, Kiran just tweeted saying basically her emails have been going mad and this pic, the exposure it will bring a venue is worth kicking out a no body to let prince play.

So you're saying, his manager, who used to work in PR, has made a statement showing prime venues are desperate for him to play and has used the "Shoreditch Grand" as an example?

Hmmm, OK.

If I was an agent / promoter who had an artist who found a venue had kicked me out for what they consider a one night PR stunt I would never book them again - VERY shallow.

Stop looking at this as a Prince fan and think objectively. If they're that much in demand, why are they sitting in hotel rooms tonight ?

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[Edited 2/7/14 13:32pm]

Im looking at it from my jobs perspective, Events Management and working 10 years as a night club promoter etc... If a venue has a night in that brings in a crowd of 300-400 when they have a capacity of twice that maybe over 1000, from a business point of view it makes sense to ask who may have booked the venue for the night kindly if they would be willing to give it up for one night maybe offer some sort of compo, entry to the gig for the promoter/band who should be playing or something, I've seen it happen and unfortunatley been on the recieving end of it once or twice. They have 1000 people in, spending on average £40-£50 on drinks probabaly more down south, they are the winners on the bar alone, the people hiring the venue make Pennies on the door money.

And didnt Prince ask a venue for an afterparty on that 2nd night they made 300 people leave or something and he didnt even turn up?

[Edited 2/7/14 15:42pm]

Lianachan said:

Mindflux said:

Why? Why should he just tie himself to only ever doing a tour for established fans? What is wrong with him, for once, doing something different and trying to reach out to a different and younger audience?

Jeez, he steps out of the box once and just because there's some whinging fannies who can't be arsed to do anything that involves them getting out of an armchair and perhaps taking a bit of a risk for a change, then he's now just being ridiculous?!

Pure selfishness on your part - Prince won't do it how you want it, so you throw your toys out the pram. Well, stay in your pram

I'm not throwing anything, and there's no need to get personal. I have a life. Am I going to drop everything and make a round trip of over 1000 miles on the off chance I might get lucky and catch a show? I wouldn't, even if it was an option. Would I make that round trip for a show I know is going to happen and I have a ticket for? You bet, and I have, several times.

Ok, look, sorry if that sounded a bit harsh and it wasn't entirely directed at you - it's everyone who is moaning about how it is not convenient for them, so they're ridiculing it. You know what, I'd rather see people just being excited about the event and perhaps wishing well to those who manage to make one - wouldn't that be nice?

But, no, we get tonnes of negativity and bashing just because, for once, Prince is doing a hit and run in the UK. And people would rather heap scorn on it, just because this time round it doesn't suit them, rather than hope that the lucky folks that make it (not to mention, perhaps, a little goodwill for one of their favourite musicians) have a great time.

I may or may not make one of the gigs. We all have lives and for some, like yourself, that's a mad trip for no guarantee. As it stands, I live 11 miles from the Electric Ballroom. I couldn't make Thursday - I run 2 businesses and have a 7-month old baby boy to look after. I have priorities - but if I don't make a show, it won't be the end of the world (or the start of some online vendetta against Prince!) and if I do make one then I'm sure it'll be as good as any of the other times I've seen him over the past 3 decades.

We all have amazing memories of brilliant shows we got to see that are personal to us (and there will have been folks who couldn't make that gig). Why do we have to sour that, just because we might miss out this time around? You don't have to piss on the Parade, just because you can't take part.

If a venue has a night in that brings in a crowd of 300-400 when they have a capacity of twice that maybe over 1000, from a business point of view it makes sense to ask who may have booked the venue for the night kindly if they would be willing to give it up for one night maybe offer some sort of compo, entry to the gig for the promoter/band who should be playing or something, I've seen it happen and unfortunatley been on the recieving end of it once or twice. They have 1000 people in, spending on average £40-£50 on drinks probabaly more down south, they are the winners on the bar alone, the people hiring the venue make Pennies on the door money.

And didnt Prince ask a venue for an afterparty on that 2nd night they made 300 people leave or something and he didnt even turn up?

[Edited 2/7/14 15:42pm]

Wow. I don't think you'll find too many places where people are spending an average of £40-£50 on drinks in one night! That's ten pints per person! Everyone would be falling over. At the Electric Ballroom I spent about a fiver, and the people I met in the queue didn't even buy drinks as Prince started playing practically the moment we walked in.

MatthewBest said:

If a venue has a night in that brings in a crowd of 300-400 when they have a capacity of twice that maybe over 1000, from a business point of view it makes sense to ask who may have booked the venue for the night kindly if they would be willing to give it up for one night maybe offer some sort of compo, entry to the gig for the promoter/band who should be playing or something, I've seen it happen and unfortunatley been on the recieving end of it once or twice. They have 1000 people in, spending on average £40-£50 on drinks probabaly more down south, they are the winners on the bar alone, the people hiring the venue make Pennies on the door money.

And didnt Prince ask a venue for an afterparty on that 2nd night they made 300 people leave or something and he didnt even turn up?

[Edited 2/7/14 15:42pm]

Wow. I don't think you'll find too many places where people are spending an average of £40-£50 on drinks in one night! That's ten pints per person! Everyone would be falling over. At the Electric Ballroom I spent about a fiver, and the people I met in the queue didn't even buy drinks as Prince started playing practically the moment we walked in.

Which either means you had one bottle of beer, or 2 bottles of water!

Sorry, but £40-£50 on drinks in London is easily done.

MatthewBest said:

If a venue has a night in that brings in a crowd of 300-400 when they have a capacity of twice that maybe over 1000, from a business point of view it makes sense to ask who may have booked the venue for the night kindly if they would be willing to give it up for one night maybe offer some sort of compo, entry to the gig for the promoter/band who should be playing or something, I've seen it happen and unfortunatley been on the recieving end of it once or twice. They have 1000 people in, spending on average £40-£50 on drinks probabaly more down south, they are the winners on the bar alone, the people hiring the venue make Pennies on the door money.

And didnt Prince ask a venue for an afterparty on that 2nd night they made 300 people leave or something and he didnt even turn up?

[Edited 2/7/14 15:42pm]

Wow. I don't think you'll find too many places where people are spending an average of £40-£50 on drinks in one night! That's ten pints per person! Everyone would be falling over. At the Electric Ballroom I spent about a fiver, and the people I met in the queue didn't even buy drinks as Prince started playing practically the moment we walked in.

Know what you mean, I can go out in Manchester and I dont spend less than £100 drinking spirits so london its easily done, my friends club has a capacity of 700 and he makes around 65k in a night on the bar alone, the door money all goes to the promoter whos booked the venue. I guess if there are alot of older people there they might watch their money more with other comitments, Venues swill want him in either way though because well, they can say "We had prince at our venue" not many can pull that card out haha

[Edited 2/7/14 16:10pm]