has never heard or could hear well enough to pick out/remember lyrics.
BUT when Prince joined the NPG (playing bass) funk followed by GET WILD followed by a long slow gorgeous funk groove instrumental THANK YOU (FALETTINME BE MICE ELF AGIN)
and for Prince's encore on keyboards and vocals QUE SERA SERA with lots of audience participation, Prince's urging ("you ain't singin it!) and I swear the band thought that was it... and Prince started NOTHING COMPARES 2 U
Shelby pointed the mic at me twice for me to sing during that one. Definitley a personal highlight. | |
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I bothered to keep track of Winnipeg and it wasn't needed... then I didn't get a complete one for Calgary and no one has it for Princevault!
But I'm sure between us we can manage. Do you agree with the first part of my main show set list? | |
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Umm yeah JOY was a different arrangement but gorgeous to hear live none the less. | |
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No offense, but that aftershow sounds like complete SHIT! From what I gather, he barely sang, and he had Shelby and Liv take over for most of the night??! What, those girls didn't get enough of the spotlight during the regular show or something? How much were those tickets (for the aftershow) again?? | |
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60 bucks and a steal at that, considering the show at the Saddledome set me back 350. It was not complete shit, it was completely awesome. It was intimate and raw and something I never experienced before and probably never will again.
Besides that, the girls didn't have much of the spotlight at the Saddledome. Andy Allo sang one song, otherwise the girls were always backup. And their performance at the afterjam was fantastic. It was a very talented band, and the girls were very kind and sweet, and had incredibly pipes. Even without Prince's appearance, I would have felt like I had my money's worth at the aftershow. I am so grateful that I got to be there. "Knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring faith. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal" - Carl Sagan | |
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Why do you have to be such a downer? Maybe you don't realize that posting this stuff could seriously detract from someones experience. People pay after-tax dollars to see a show and you're encouraging them to feel ripped off. Why would you want to make someone feel like they've wasted their money?
You might think it's 'only a matter of opinion', but I think there's another part of it. People paid money, you didn't, and you're sort of chipping away at the value of their purchase. | |
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Again, as I always say, if someone is weak-minded enough to give me power like that over their own thoughts of a show, then that's THEIR fault, not mine. I am certainly NOT going to hold back my opinion because someone MAY eventually feel cheated (which I doubt would ever happen anyway). | |
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Grateful just to see Prince's 2-cent band up there take center stage??? Whatever, I guess. I know if that were me, I would have DEMANDED my $60 back after seeing Prince play on keys most of the night and take the lead for just one of his songs (that had Shelby co-lead on again anyway)!!! But hey, if you're cool with it, more power to ya. | |
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if i could interject here from another perspective please? okay i belive no one has said that one couldn't enjoy what they have witnessed seeing or hearing or even having a good time. In the same breath tho just imagine u come on the org and ur being told 2 go see the aftershow if u wanna hear the rare material. U have just paid 2 see the main show and now the aftershow and the aftershow is featuring more of the backup singers then the band leader. now no one knows what can happen at a aftershow or how long it's gonna be. so even if u had a good time and witnessed something extraordinary, u can see how u might feel a little "cheated" that u wanted 2 hear the band leader sing more.
i've been 2 the aftershow in 2002 that some songs were featured on the ONA box set and it was funky as all hell and he sang a whole lot more than what has been reported.
so hopefully u can see both sides of the coin now?
peace man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said:fusk said:if i could interject here from another perspective please? okay i belive no one has said that one couldn't enjoy what they have witnessed seeing or hearing or even having a good time. In the same breath tho just imagine u come on the org and ur being told 2 go see the aftershow if u wanna hear the rare material. U have just paid 2 see the main show and now the aftershow and the aftershow is featuring more of the backup singers then the band leader. now no one knows what can happen at a aftershow or how long it's gonna be. so even if u had a good time and witnessed something extraordinary, u can see how u might feel a little "cheated" that u wanted 2 hear the band leader sing more. And THAT is why you're my second favorite (next to me, of course) pimp, cuzzin! Voice of reason. | |
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I always understood and appreciate that point of view. I didn't go to the aftershows in Toronto largely because of posts that deflated the aftershow hype, and I'm happy with my decision (even though I think seeing Prince in a small club with a handful of die-hards would be a treat). So really, I'm serious when I say that your point of view is valuable.
I just think that a lot of the time, the tone is needlessly negative or rude. For example,
might not literally be saying, "if you like paying for shitty things, go ahead, idiot", but that's the subtext I read in it. I dunno, maybe that's just my reading and not the intent of the poster at all. But at the moment, I don't completely agree that nobody's saying people can't have a good time.
And this justification
always seemed weak to me. Why is it the responsibility of the happy concert goer to have the mental stamina to put up with numerous negative-opinion posts, while alexnvrmnd isn't responsible at all? Think of a schoolyard bullying case - it's obviously bullshit for the bully to say, 'well I'm gonna keep on verbally abusing people because if they let me get under their skin, that's their fault!' I know it's not exactly the same scenario but the point I'm trying to make is that it's up to alex to have a little more tact when he expresses himself. It's just a courtesy to communicate in a way that doesn't take 'mental strength' to deal with. | |
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L4OA, we both attended several shows together in NYC and the setlist may not have been to your liking the the experience was a great one. We all sat down and broke bread and hung out afterwards and it only enhanced the experience. Tomorrow is one year from that day and I'm glad that you showed up because you're a part of a good experience in my book. All of us who went to dinner before the show and hung after on several occasions are worth hearing 'Purple Rain' one more time. Prince shows aren't just about the setlist, they're about what happens at a Prince show and the people you meet there. There was a 30 year old woman behind me in tears during 'Purple Rain' because she thought she'd never get to hear him play it live in her lifetime(especially in it's entirety). That made it special to me even though I've heard it before. I'm sure everyone takes something different with them from a Prince show. I'm sorry if you no longer enjoy them because hanging with you at them is a cool experience and you'll be missed. I spent well over a $1000 dollars on tickets last winter and wouldn't change it for the world because here we are a year later and i'm going to Minneapolis with my people to enjoy the Revolution in February! Somethings are beyond price and I have Prince & Estelle81 for bringing us together. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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I don't need ANY more tact than what I've already demonstrated. I said NOTHING about the person who attended the show. I just said the show sounded like it sucked. What, I'm supposed to suppress my feelings or opinions because a grown ass adult might somehow get depressed all of a sudden over a show they said they enjoyed??? Not gonna happen, cap'n. Your bullying analogy is 100% incorrect, as no one's being verbally abused here. This isn't PrincePositiveOpinionsONLY.org, you know.
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I don't even understand this. Why should I expect Prince to do some full amazing show for a hundred people, at 60 bucks a pop, when he just sold tickets for hundreds of dollars a pop for over ten thousand people? Has he done it before? Sure! Should it be expected? ABSOLUTELY NOT! If that were the norm I would just attend damn aftershows, I mean why not? Save 290 bucks and have a far more intimate and up close experience? Who wouldn't do that?
I saw Maceo Parker perform at MacEwan hall here several years ago, and I'm pretty sure I paid damn near 60 bucks for that ticket. And it was with about a thousand other people. Here I see Maceo Parker jam with, once again, a really solid group for 2 freaking hours, with Prince working out on the bass for about 40 minutes of that, and taking the lead on a thirty minute encore with a mere 30 or so other people, right there, in my face, and THAT'S NOT WORTH 60 BUCKS?! Holy shit have you been spoiled by his performances of the past then, that's all I can say. I have relayed my experience to a number of friends and family and they're all very jealous of the experience. [Edited 12/17/11 13:13pm] [Edited 12/17/11 13:15pm] "Knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring faith. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal" - Carl Sagan | |
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T I appreciate your words and i have never said that the epxerience of meeting folks is not grand cause i can testify what the true "afterparty" at brother banks house was beautiful for me. I never take that from anyone. I come at these shows from a fan for over 25 years and countless shows that i've been to and have heard and seen via many factors. everyone's experience is their own and yeah i'm tired of hearing purple rain and so many different songs that he constantly does. not because they aren't great songs or what not its because i know there are more songs in his arsenal than 1982-1984. when i listen 2 his albums i close my eyes and imagine what it would be 2 hear these songs in concert that never get done. I dream about hearing the word live, love, $, forever, chocolate box or hearing him do everywhere, the sensual everafter. so many times people have said 2 alex and myself, it's arena tour blah blah blah and i say SO WHAT? does that mean he can't do new music or current music? do people even know who prince is? this is the perspective i come at in each concert thread. it's not about dissing anyone that has enjoyed the shows.
i can attest that myself and some others don't go after anyone that likes the setlist or the concert expereince until our posts are quoted and the remarks are directed at us. I'm glad ur going 2 my 2nd home in february, i would go but I'm over the revolution and have been since I saw SOTT on the screen and saw that band on that screen WHOOP ASS. i've come 2 peace with the fact that a year ago after seeing 2 great shows and 2 meh ones that i was done with seeing prince live in arena setting. I peek into these threads about the setlist cause i'm looking 4 hope, a glimmer of the great artist i grew up with but lately i dont' see him anymore. he comes and goes now 4 me but still if one likes the shows, great! just i don't get why if someone doesn't like the setlist then the name calling starts being dished. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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I know. I've posted a few things supporting people voicing negative opinions. Like that post today where I pretty much thanked the people (this means you!) who put a negative spin on the afterparties because it helped me decide that they weren't something I was interested in.
I know you don't say anything about the people who attend. In the post in this thread where you quoted someone and said, 'that sounds like a shitty afterparty', it reads like you want to take the information the person gave you, put the most negative spin on it, and prove that he/she is wrong. I know you're not literally doing this, but that's what it reads like, to me anyway. I mean, if you were at a party and all you did was tell people that you thought the things they liked were shitty because X Y Z, how many friends do you think you'd make? Do you think people would say, 'yeah I really like being around that guy'?
It's a hard point to argue because to me this all seems like basic, obvious 'rules' of social interaction. You probably have a different set of 'rules' and I'm not gonna change that, so... I guess there's nothing else to say? | |
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Oh damn... I ride a bus for 11 odd hours or so and all I want now is a big ol "IGNORE POST" button.
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nipples said:Oh damn... I ride a bus for 11 odd hours or so and all I want now is a big ol "IGNORE POST" button. That button already exists. It's called your brain. Use it. You yourself can choose to ignore and not read a post you don't want to see. | |
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Dude! Why didn't we find each other to say hello? You weren't the guy in the guitar shirt, by any chance?
Yes, I was totally blown away by the band. They DO NOT get to shine on stage like they did at the jam. I feel exactly the same as you. It was pure energy. Pure passion. Musicians just rocking out! Cassandra? OMG! Amazing! Liv? what pipes! Shelby? Fantastic! Elisa? Tiny but powerful. Morris and John? masters. And so sweet. Maceo?! Wow. just wow. | |
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I don't have as many photos pulled for the Calgary show... so if anyone has some please share.
These are all pulled from twitter but unlike the other pictures for Winnipeg/Edmonton, my sleep addled brain did not pull the photo credits with them. I will try to update as I go but wanted to post them (and change the tone of the thread) before the concert was a week old lol.
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Thought this was a cool photo demonstrating the flurry of purple fetti during PR Funnily enough, two shows and I didn't get rained on either time! Was a beautiful sight, though.
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"Remember when your phone was at home?" lol Saddledome lit up "new skool" style
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ok. by process of elimination looking at every prince song known to man, i've compiled a list of songs i know he did. They aren't in the right order, but pretty sure they're all there! Nipples, i trust that you got the right order. I thought maybe he started the medley with when doves cry but I also didn't remember that Let's Go Crazy and Delirious were side by side :p Just tried to do my best with where I thought they were generally played. Hello, 80's....
sampler set: when doves cry Sign O' The Times
the rest/the encore: CANNOT remember what was where! don't stop till you get enough
I searched for quite a while yesterday trying to piece together the NPG afterparty setlist but it was all obscure to me. What I remember you've already got down. That slow funk jam on the bass was a highlight for me. Prince turning around to make faces when he played a cheeky bass line...teasing with leaving the 2, 3, and 4 empty to come back in on the 1 after what seemed like an eternity. That afterparty was the opposite of suck. If people put value on a show, IN DOLLARS, by standing there with a stopwatch, noting playing and singing time that Prince puts in, then they've missed the whole damn point. | |
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