What an uplifting Purple Rain! I mean the one from H&M event. Why I wasn't there? Usually, I love to hear full verse, though, this is sharp but also emotional and reminds me the time around when he started to cut off the second and third verse during Sign 'O' The Times tour. I was shocked then but marveled his clear sense of direction, which declared he was not gonna stay at the past success or the purple world forever. I still want to hear full chorus in Toronto, but that really doesn't matter. Anything, Prince today can make it great.

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Prince was simply lazy. There was a time when only washed up singers in Las Vegas did medleys in their 60's or so. Prince is one of the few who did it in his 20's. Still, he didn't get that bad with it until 1996 at the end of the Gold Tour. I often compare Prince to U2. I wish U2 had Prince's talent, and I wish Prince played 22 full length songs at every single show like U2. Sadly, there are shortcomings with every artist, and Prince going through the motions live is one I have to live with.

What I really find funny, is how legions of fans tell you how horrible his recent albums are, but then talk about how great he is live. Prince can be great live, but I have few problems with any of his albums. MPLSound is the only one that I'm not crazy about, and it even has a few great songs.

I can't say I like a concert where Shelby is singing 5 or so songs, and somebody named Andy Aloe is playing guitar. Prince still sneaks in a great show every now and then, but I love him, but don't trust him anymore. Now if your idea of fun is hearing somebody chant "Put Your Hands Up," half the night, then by all means, this is your show.

stillwaiting said:

Prince was simply lazy. There was a time when only washed up singers in Las Vegas did medleys in their 60's or so. Prince is one of the few who did it in his 20's. Still, he didn't get that bad with it until 1996 at the end of the Gold Tour. I often compare Prince to U2. I wish U2 had Prince's talent, and I wish Prince played 22 full length songs at every single show like U2. Sadly, there are shortcomings with every artist, and Prince going through the motions live is one I have to live with.

What I really find funny, is how legions of fans tell you how horrible his recent albums are, but then talk about how great he is live. Prince can be great live, but I have few problems with any of his albums. MPLSound is the only one that I'm not crazy about, and it even has a few great songs.

I can't say I like a concert where Shelby is singing 5 or so songs, and somebody named Andy Aloe is playing guitar. Prince still sneaks in a great show every now and then, but I love him, but don't trust him anymore. Now if your idea of fun is hearing somebody chant "Put Your Hands Up," half the night, then by all means, this is your show.

First of all, I don't think you can call him lazy when you see him playing for 4 hours right in front of you.

You say Medleys I say Suites.

I love U2 as much as Prince, too. Prince has more talent? I think they have different quality of talent and maybe same spirit. But I agree, both of them go boring when they follow the conventional job against the huge crowd too much. By the way, I don't put my hands up with much respect towards the legend who has been succeeding this great show business. Surprisingly, I think Prince found the clue to ignite his passion again among the audience and reinvented "Cool" and it is now sung with "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough." And he's cool again.

And albums. I like "Here" or "Better With Time" from "MPLSound" and put them into my Prince only playlist with careful order but almost don't listen to the whole album. Anyway, I guess at some point he stopped facing some issues to maintain his everyday mind. I want him to be happy, so I don't wanna complain about it. But one thing I want him to remember is since he wasn't afraid of being vulnerable and revealing himself we follow him and fight our lives listening to Prince And The Revolution, "Sign 'O' The Times," "Lovesexy," "Graffiti Bridge"... So, yeah we all have different taste, though. I want him to do it again and I believe he can do it without four letter words. Oh, is this complaining? Sorry.

Then Shelby. I also agree because it's not that I don't like her but it's just that I like Prince a million times more. But in fact I think Prince can't keep singing 2 or 3 hours alone anymore, his voice doesn't make it that long. So he goes to his guitar more than '80s or '90s. I love his voice first but I respect his search for the best he can do. I wonder why he doesn't change set lists much but again I don't think it's because he's lazy. I believe how he plays weighs much more than what he plays. But honestly, most of 3121 Vegas or 21 Nights in London main shows were boring against a few exceptional nights because they sounded almost same every time. It dramatically started to improve during W2A. But actually the Paisley Park show in 2009 was the key because he was really trying. And Andy. I saw him kiss her on the stage. She's his muse now. She can't play guitar but her voice is truthful and more than anything he wants to be with her. Isn't that so "Pop Life"?

So, sincerely, why don't you trust him once again? You can't find anyone like him anyway, right?

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Funny how all 6 shows in North and South Carolina were less than 2 hours. If you take out time Prince was backstage while Shelby or Liv was singing, most of them were an hour and a half. That's why I don't trust him. U2 bring it every night, with what I see as lesser talent. I see Prince as the best ever, sleepwalking through Kiss, and having a few brilliant moments each night. You could go through countless bootlegs and not find multiple 4 hour shows. Even in the long shows, you get too much Shelby, Andy, Liv, and whoever else....Bono never has some backup singer. I figured someone would claim he does all these long shows....His current tour can't even come close to One Nite Alone or even Musicology. He brought it every night on those tours, no matter what city I saw the show in. Getting 6 straight shows with maybe Charlotte and Columbia being almost great is just not good enough for the best. If it was Bon Jovi, I'd be doing backflips, but Prince should kick Bon Jovi's ass without even trying.

stillwaiting said:

Funny how all 6 shows in North and South Carolina were less than 2 hours. If you take out time Prince was backstage while Shelby or Liv was singing, most of them were an hour and a half. That's why I don't trust him. U2 bring it every night, with what I see as lesser talent. I see Prince as the best ever, sleepwalking through Kiss, and having a few brilliant moments each night.

I really dare you to listen to the shows i've been this year and complain:

Ghent 1 & 2 (both longer than 3.20h)

3 NSJ concerts,

luxembourg & another ahoy in holland.

The shows this summer were OFF THE CHAIN, and HE was the centre of attention, and every show it was a part hits but also a part aftershow vibe.

i really dare you to complain about this shows.

A setlist doesn't say it all you know.

and about the W2A tour : you're right, compared 2 europe these were unispired shows (i think it's because of that really boring symbol stage). i've seen 7 shows in london with that symbol stage and it's not the same, not for the crowd & not for the band. There is a lack of energy hitting your face

brechten said:

stillwaiting said:

Funny how all 6 shows in North and South Carolina were less than 2 hours. If you take out time Prince was backstage while Shelby or Liv was singing, most of them were an hour and a half. That's why I don't trust him. U2 bring it every night, with what I see as lesser talent. I see Prince as the best ever, sleepwalking through Kiss, and having a few brilliant moments each night.

I really dare you to listen to the shows i've been this year and complain:

Ghent 1 & 2 (both longer than 3.20h)

3 NSJ concerts,

luxembourg & another ahoy in holland.

The shows this summer were OFF THE CHAIN, and HE was the centre of attention, and every show it was a part hits but also a part aftershow vibe.

i really dare you to complain about this shows.

A setlist doesn't say it all you know.

and about the W2A tour : you're right, compared 2 europe these were unispired shows (i think it's because of that really boring symbol stage). i've seen 7 shows in london with that symbol stage and it's not the same, not for the crowd & not for the band. There is a lack of energy hitting your face

The sad thing, is Prince makes it clear he can be the best there is on a given night. The sadder thing is he can go long stretches where he's just going through the motions. With the money and fame U2 have, they could easily take this path, but they don't. The worst U2 show I ever went to had 21 full length songs. I've seen U2 10 times, and they brought it 10 times. I've seen Prince 45 times, since he's my favorite. He brought it 25 out of 45 times. It's probably my own fault for going to so many Jam of The Year/New Power Soul concerts, but as I mentioned, on the Welcome 2 America tour, he was kind of weak.

A legendary performer should bring it every night. This is Prince we are dealing with. He will do something wonderful, and then screw it up. There is a reason that Jughead, We Gets Up, Wedding Feast, Daddy Pop, Push It Up, We March, and I Rock Therefore I Am were all released.

There is another reason that the Original Old Friends 4 Sale, Moonbeam Levels, Witness 4 The Prosecution, Train, and other great songs have not been. Prince is a Nut Case.

When you pay $324 for a VIP ticket, and you have 15 minutes of "Put Your Hands Up" being chanted, and no real performing happening, it is a total negative mindfuck. Of course, in the same

concert, he plays a mean "Shh," and "Anotherloverholenyohead."

It is just so amazing that he can't just come to play every single night. As crap as Bon Jovi is, I've never seen them give a half ass show. I've seen them where it wasn't the best, but they always gave what they had.

brechten said:

stillwaiting said:

Funny how all 6 shows in North and South Carolina were less than 2 hours. If you take out time Prince was backstage while Shelby or Liv was singing, most of them were an hour and a half. That's why I don't trust him. U2 bring it every night, with what I see as lesser talent. I see Prince as the best ever, sleepwalking through Kiss, and having a few brilliant moments each night.

I really dare you to listen to the shows i've been this year and complain:

Ghent 1 & 2 (both longer than 3.20h)

3 NSJ concerts,

luxembourg & another ahoy in holland.

The shows this summer were OFF THE CHAIN, and HE was the centre of attention, and every show it was a part hits but also a part aftershow vibe.

i really dare you to complain about this shows.

A setlist doesn't say it all you know.

and about the W2A tour : you're right, compared 2 europe these were unispired shows (i think it's because of that really boring symbol stage). i've seen 7 shows in london with that symbol stage and it's not the same, not for the crowd & not for the band. There is a lack of energy hitting your face

Well, I've heard those shows, and I'm not even close to being impressed. They all suffer from a lack of musical energy, and it's been the same thing with every other show on this "Welcome 2..." tour.

And, my guess is he'll be doing the same ol' boring shit for the Canada shows that he's been doing for the past 11 months. God, what a waste.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

brechten said:

I really dare you to listen to the shows i've been this year and complain:

Ghent 1 & 2 (both longer than 3.20h)

3 NSJ concerts,

luxembourg & another ahoy in holland.

The shows this summer were OFF THE CHAIN, and HE was the centre of attention, and every show it was a part hits but also a part aftershow vibe.

i really dare you to complain about this shows.

A setlist doesn't say it all you know.

and about the W2A tour : you're right, compared 2 europe these were unispired shows (i think it's because of that really boring symbol stage). i've seen 7 shows in london with that symbol stage and it's not the same, not for the crowd & not for the band. There is a lack of energy hitting your face

Well, I've heard those shows, and I'm not even close to being impressed. They all suffer from a lack of musical energy, and it's been the same thing with every other show on this "Welcome 2..." tour.

And, my guess is he'll be doing the same ol' boring shit for the Canada shows that he's been doing for the past 11 months. God, what a waste.

I like it when someone with honesty replies to one of my posts. Some of these ultra positive fans will bitch and bitch when I'm telling the truth, and they will harp on about how wonderful Prince is live. Controversy, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy, ONA, Musicology? Yeah, those were awesome tours.

What I find even funnier, is half of these morons have not even listened to a Prince album since like 1995 or so. And they claim to say Prince has lost it in the studio. Sure, his albums are not as great as they used to be, but his decline live is much more profound. Lotus Flow3r(not MPLSound) is as inspired an album as he's done in ages, but most drone on about how bad it is, and haven't even listened to it.

I almost find it insulting when Prince does put on a great show for somebody. The Los Angeles show where he did Endorphinmachine seems like a much better show than the ones I got. I'd have to listen to the bootleg I don't have to know the whole story, but it seems like a great show. I just wish he would do it every night. With the band he has now, it is hard to expect real musicianship. John Blackwell and Renato are all there is when it comes to really good players. Morris is ok, but Ida is just borderline, and Andy Allo? Please. Prince would much rather have

a volunteer band, and based on how he pays his bands since 1994, they may as well

be volunteers. Not only is Prince famous for not paying his bills, his band will NEVER be #1 at the bank.