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Thread started 05/10/11 9:33am

FunkDr

LAzy fans !!

I'm in the UK and after the credit crunch hit me and my business so hard, there is no way I can make it over the US for any of the W2A concerts!

So I, like many worldwide fans I'm sure, am kinda relying on my American purple hippies to keep me updated with how the concerts are going : detailed reviews, pictures (i know the restrictions but some folk always find a way - me, nah - I'm too busy enjoying it to get my phone or camera out) etc.

Instead, most of the LA concert posts seem to be taken up with a dozen posts consisting of :

- "oh, I'm tired today and have work tomorrow- not sure if I can be bothered to make it down to the Forum and spend $25 to see my 3rd show, I might possibly, maybe go on Saturday"

OR

- "I don't like the opening act tonight so I think I'll skip it and maybe wait until there is a big act opening on another night"

OR

- "Can anyone tell me if they are selling the $200 tickets for $25 tonight? If so, I just might think about swinging by the ticket office...but then again, there is a good program on TV tonight, so I might skip it!"

Then there are about 6 posts giving the set lists and, if we're lucky, maybe a 1st timer recounting a great experience !

I know this doesn't apply to everyone and there are fans attending multiple shows and travelling from far and wide to be there, BUT overall it seems pathetic !!!

What the heck is wrong with people? P is nearly 53 - he ain't gonna be doing these type of shows forever ! An yet, the apathy around whether to bother going or not - from supposed FANS - is amazing !! Some can't even be bothered to phone the venue or promoter to check ticket availability - they ask other Orgers to do it !!!

$25 people !!! What is there to think about?? Sure, going to a few shows will add up to a fair bit of money, but jeeze !!

Can't be bothered to go...can't be bothered to give a fun, detailed review!!

We had 21 nights in London in 2007. Fans travelled from all over Europe to see the concerts - NOT just an hour drive from elsehwere in LA. The tickets were more expensive, there were (fantastic) aftershow tickets to buy too and the travel would have been more costly ! Yet each night was sold out and Housequake.com had lots of posters giving detailed accounts of the shows !!

Added to that, you couldn't just swing by the box office and pick up a ticket easily - you had to deal with ticketmaster and be online / on the phone for ages trying to get a ticket !!

Sure, the O2 gigs were pre credit crunch and I know how drastically my own financial situation has worsened...but c'mon guys - you seem to have it so easy and cheap - but just can't be bothered !!!

Where is the passion? We are so spoilt - having the opportunity to see this guy live - whatever your thoughts about set lists or him not being at his '84-'95 live, split-funking peak - it is still PRINCE live - the greatest live artist ever - period !!

Now there is some doubt or question over his relationship with Live Nation that could jeopardise the remainder of the residency !!

P - time to "get on the boat" and head for the UK and the rest of Europe - I reckon we still have the energy and love !!!

Welcome 2 America !!

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Reply #1 posted 05/10/11 9:49am

sirweasel

Really? WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW? YOU ARE NOT GOING SO WHY DOES IT MATTER!!!!

At this point you really need to know how the concert was?

It's just a concert, and for the most part the same concert every night.

I have been to 5 of them and yeah they are all great but we all know he is not going to sing any of the songs we want him to sing. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME EVERY NIGHT EXCEPT FOR A FEW MINOR CHANGES!!!

Also as a LA native born and raised I take offense to calling us LAzy

More than half the people in this town are born somewhere else!

And if fans on this site find the shows boring it is because they probably don't have a life outside this forum.

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Reply #2 posted 05/10/11 9:52am

JowiiCoco

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/11 9:56am

raddahone

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hey - come on - there is an abundance of luv 4 Prince here in the US and all around the world. we all have 2 share the best of the best times when he makes himself available. there are lots of folks in LA in the US beyond LA that luv Prince and the NPG. and, we luv what is is doing 4 us with Welcome 2 America. i know of soo many in the southern states that are anxiously awaiting his re-turn including states like Alabama, Tennessee,...there is a whole lotta luv here...and everywhere 4 Prince. One place can't say that they luv him more than another. All luv springs from the same Source.

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Reply #4 posted 05/10/11 10:02am

FunkDr

weasel - I don't NEED to know but as a fan...I'd like to know how it went. Isn't that why we're on this site? 'Cuz we dig Prince??

People seem keen to post how they are travelling to the show, what they're wearing, if their seats are gonna be good or not ...and then next to zip about the show itself !!

I can't see what half of the people in LA being born elsewhere has anything to do with a seeming apathy for the LA Prince residency - particularly on a Prince fan site where you would kind of expect the level/degree of interest and excitement to be somewhat greater.

It's not like I'm asking questions of general LA residents - I'm confused by Orgers - you know, people who visit and post on a website dedicated to ...err.....Prince !

No offence meant to LA - People from other cities can (and are) going the concerts. The LAzy was a reference to the concerts being in LA and many of the fans seeming to be lazy (doesn't mean folk in LA are lazy !)

JowiCoco - I am amused - but will pass on the c*ck thanks !!

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Reply #5 posted 05/10/11 10:03am

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FunkDr said:

P - time to "get on the boat" and head for the UK and the rest of Europe - I reckon we still have the energy and love !!!

Welcome 2 America !!

He is coming to Europe this summer, so what is your point?

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Reply #6 posted 05/10/11 10:09am

FunkDr

my point, Remko, is that the general fan enthusiasm (and, of course, there are many exceptions) for this particular residency seems to be "meh, woteva" - and I just don't "get it" !

[Edited 5/10/11 10:15am]

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Reply #7 posted 05/10/11 10:11am

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FunkDr said:

my point, Remko, is that the genral fan enthusiasm (and, of course, there are many exceptions) for this particular residency seems to be "meh, woteva" - and I just don't "get it" !

Things can get to cheap....(?)

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Reply #8 posted 05/10/11 10:29am

powersoul99

FunkDr said:

I'm in the UK and after the credit crunch hit me and my business so hard, there is no way I can make it over the US for any of the W2A concerts!

So I, like many worldwide fans I'm sure, am kinda relying on my American purple hippies to keep me updated with how the concerts are going : detailed reviews, pictures (i know the restrictions but some folk always find a way - me, nah - I'm too busy enjoying it to get my phone or camera out) etc.

Instead, most of the LA concert posts seem to be taken up with a dozen posts consisting of :

- "oh, I'm tired today and have work tomorrow- not sure if I can be bothered to make it down to the Forum and spend $25 to see my 3rd show, I might possibly, maybe go on Saturday"

OR

- "I don't like the opening act tonight so I think I'll skip it and maybe wait until there is a big act opening on another night"

OR

- "Can anyone tell me if they are selling the $200 tickets for $25 tonight? If so, I just might think about swinging by the ticket office...but then again, there is a good program on TV tonight, so I might skip it!"

Then there are about 6 posts giving the set lists and, if we're lucky, maybe a 1st timer recounting a great experience !

I know this doesn't apply to everyone and there are fans attending multiple shows and travelling from far and wide to be there, BUT overall it seems pathetic !!!

What the heck is wrong with people? P is nearly 53 - he ain't gonna be doing these type of shows forever ! An yet, the apathy around whether to bother going or not - from supposed FANS - is amazing !! Some can't even be bothered to phone the venue or promoter to check ticket availability - they ask other Orgers to do it !!!

$25 people !!! What is there to think about?? Sure, going to a few shows will add up to a fair bit of money, but jeeze !!

Can't be bothered to go...can't be bothered to give a fun, detailed review!!

We had 21 nights in London in 2007. Fans travelled from all over Europe to see the concerts - NOT just an hour drive from elsehwere in LA. The tickets were more expensive, there were (fantastic) aftershow tickets to buy too and the travel would have been more costly ! Yet each night was sold out and Housequake.com had lots of posters giving detailed accounts of the shows !!

Added to that, you couldn't just swing by the box office and pick up a ticket easily - you had to deal with ticketmaster and be online / on the phone for ages trying to get a ticket !!

Sure, the O2 gigs were pre credit crunch and I know how drastically my own financial situation has worsened...but c'mon guys - you seem to have it so easy and cheap - but just can't be bothered !!!

Where is the passion? We are so spoilt - having the opportunity to see this guy live - whatever your thoughts about set lists or him not being at his '84-'95 live, split-funking peak - it is still PRINCE live - the greatest live artist ever - period !!

Now there is some doubt or question over his relationship with Live Nation that could jeopardise the remainder of the residency !!

P - time to "get on the boat" and head for the UK and the rest of Europe - I reckon we still have the energy and love !!!

Welcome 2 America !!

I totally Agree with you.

When in Europe there was setlists and photo's.

But we shouldnt complain as it's always been like that when he's in the U.S.

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Reply #9 posted 05/10/11 10:42am

FunkDr

powersoul99 - It just a shame if people regret missed opportunities once these 21 nights are over !

It so accessible for people - both in terms of the tickets being so easy to actually get hold of and also such a great, low price !

If the joy and enthusiasm is there, then surely folk wanna share their experience with people who share their love of Prince?

I'm more of an observer/reader than a "poster" so I can understand that not everyone will post reviews - I don't wanna read thousands biggrin - but just a few, hey? some excitment !!

You'll miss it when it's gone !!

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Reply #10 posted 05/10/11 11:01am

JowiiCoco

remko said:

FunkDr said:

my point, Remko, is that the genral fan enthusiasm (and, of course, there are many exceptions) for this particular residency seems to be "meh, woteva" - and I just don't "get it" !

Things can get to cheap....(?)

Not too cheap, but probably too many shows in a short period of time.

Still don't get why someone would complain about other people not being enthusiastic enough. falloff

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Reply #11 posted 05/10/11 11:48am

bobzilla77

I'll write ya long detailed reviews of every show if you would like to fund my attendance. $100 a night should just about cover it.

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Reply #12 posted 05/10/11 12:05pm

jfunkese

Yeah... LA audiences are very last minute type folk, myself included. I am a little bummed that enthusiasm is low for these shows. I am still very excited but without proper hype and promotion, an audience in LA is hard to convince.

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Reply #13 posted 05/10/11 12:20pm

GDB

LA native & resident...I had seen Prince several times prior to the LA residency over the years, and of the ten shows performed thus far I have attended eight of them.

My GF had not seen Prince perform before and I facilitated her first concert, 4/22. She has since gone to four additional concerts. She lives and works an hour and a half from the Forum, has multiple responsibilities that should preclude her from attending anything but a weekend show planned far in advance...and yet she has sacrificed and endured a lot to attend the concerts with me out of nothing but love, enjoyment and appreciation and each time has been an event. She was visibly moved almost to tears after her first couple of experiences.

I have sung Prince's praises far and wide and several other people have attended shows on my word of mouth alone. Some didn't have the funds; others were less enthused and uninterested until hearing from me, then decided to go and had a wonderful time.

I have helped out other Org members by purchasing and shipping merchandise for them because they lived in other states and couldn't fly out to CA at this time. Complete strangers, bonded by nothing more than a mutual love and respect for Prince and a spirit of kindness and generosity.

People of all ages, ethnicities, cultures and creeds have been in attendance during this LA run. Just because some folks don't stand and dance for the entire show doesn't mean they are lazy or uninvolved. I've seen some elderly people there...physically disabled people...people who are tired after work or going through trials and tribulations of which we are unaware who still wanted to come out and perhaps dance in their seats or rest because they had to conserve their energy. Doesn't mean they aren't as passionate a fan as you may be. You don't know what are their circumstances.

I have been to eight of ten and enjoyed them all to varying degrees, some more than others. I am deeply appreciative of Prince and everyone involved with this enterprise for bringing this to Los Angeles for such an affordable price. I think he is almost just giving these shows away to fans for what he is asking. And yet without the special pricing, I and many others would be unable to attend multiple nights and bring others with us. I can complain about repetitive setlists or quality of presentation or even the musicianship if I deem it appropriate...doesn't mean I don't appreciate the event or the generosity behind it.

Don't offer blanket judgments based upon the posts of a few faceless posters on a message board. There is a lot of love and togetherness in the Forum each night Prince performs and yes, there are new fans who are there for the first time or others there taking advantage of the special pricing who may not necessarily be "true" fans but casusl observers. The shows are open to the public and they are entitled to come share in the experience too.

But I do understand. If I lived elsewhere and heard about opening night 4/14, I would be salty too. If I lived elsewhere where W2A had already taken place and paid three or four times what LA is paying for a shorter set I might be salty too. If I couldn't be there and I read complaints and criticisms from people who were, I also might feel like they don't appreciate the blessing being offered to them. I might. So on a certain level I can dig some of where you appear to be coming from.

But as P has said, people make the world go 'round. It is what it is. Just don't label or paint your impressions with such a wide brush.

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Reply #14 posted 05/10/11 12:42pm

THANKYOU

i feel what the FunkDR is saying, and i think his passion and love for prince shows in his initial post... as the last person said, people are people and people are different... European audiences and U.S. audiences are starkly different by definition across the board. and as someone else said, LA audiences can be (not all LA people) a very unique bunch, and are different from audiences in other cities. AND vice versa. it is what it is.

and there is something to be said for having the "option" of attending one of 21 shows, at a cheap price (by the way, we scraped up $200+ for our W2A tickets in new york and only had 6 shows spanning 3 months)... i can see how someone might ponder one show vs. another, depending on the opening act, depending on how they feel that day--again when you have that "choice"... if LA didn't have that choice, or if they had had a 10-show run, i think the posts might have been different... who knows.

and in terms of the age thing, yeah prince is getting older and guess what, so are his fans... so i think we will be witnessing that fan enthusiasm manifest itself in different ways going forward (sometimes posting reviews/photos/setlists, sometimes not; sometimes going the extra mile to get the dirt on future prince shows, sometimes not)... and we all have to be willing to adapt to that evolution.

again, it is what it is.

LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER!

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Reply #15 posted 05/10/11 12:42pm

Genesia

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FunkDr, you do realize how big the US is...right? In case you don't...it's too big for people to decide to hop on a plane to LA and hope that Prince will play a show when they're there.

These shows have been announced on very short notice. Too short, really, for anyone to get an inexpensive airfare. Sure, the tickets, themselves, are a bargain. But getting to and staying in LA is not. I live in the midwest and actually costed it out (thought I might go Easter weekend), and even with my sweetie comping my hotel room for two nights, there was no way I was getting out there and back for under a thousand dollars by the time all was said and done. And in the present economy, that just isn't happening. I never know when I might need that $1K for something else.

Now (as frequently happens with Prince), there are new questions about when/whether the remainder of the 21 nights will be played. Would you risk a pricey airfare on a "maybe?"

I (and a lot of others like me - who went to Vegas multiple times) wouldn't. So I'll be in Minneapolis next week, watching Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings instead of dashing to LA for Prince. shrug

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Reply #16 posted 05/10/11 12:51pm

vandeluca

Great post:)

GDB said:

LA native & resident...I had seen Prince several times prior to the LA residency over the years, and of the ten shows performed thus far I have attended eight of them.

My GF had not seen Prince perform before and I facilitated her first concert, 4/22. She has since gone to four additional concerts. She lives and works an hour and a half from the Forum, has multiple responsibilities that should preclude her from attending anything but a weekend show planned far in advance...and yet she has sacrificed and endured a lot to attend the concerts with me out of nothing but love, enjoyment and appreciation and each time has been an event. She was visibly moved almost to tears after her first couple of experiences.

I have sung Prince's praises far and wide and several other people have attended shows on my word of mouth alone. Some didn't have the funds; others were less enthused and uninterested until hearing from me, then decided to go and had a wonderful time.

I have helped out other Org members by purchasing and shipping merchandise for them because they lived in other states and couldn't fly out to CA at this time. Complete strangers, bonded by nothing more than a mutual love and respect for Prince and a spirit of kindness and generosity.

People of all ages, ethnicities, cultures and creeds have been in attendance during this LA run. Just because some folks don't stand and dance for the entire show doesn't mean they are lazy or uninvolved. I've seen some elderly people there...physically disabled people...people who are tired after work or going through trials and tribulations of which we are unaware who still wanted to come out and perhaps dance in their seats or rest because they had to conserve their energy. Doesn't mean they aren't as passionate a fan as you may be. You don't know what are their circumstances.

I have been to eight of ten and enjoyed them all to varying degrees, some more than others. I am deeply appreciative of Prince and everyone involved with this enterprise for bringing this to Los Angeles for such an affordable price. I think he is almost just giving these shows away to fans for what he is asking. And yet without the special pricing, I and many others would be unable to attend multiple nights and bring others with us. I can complain about repetitive setlists or quality of presentation or even the musicianship if I deem it appropriate...doesn't mean I don't appreciate the event or the generosity behind it.

Don't offer blanket judgments based upon the posts of a few faceless posters on a message board. There is a lot of love and togetherness in the Forum each night Prince performs and yes, there are new fans who are there for the first time or others there taking advantage of the special pricing who may not necessarily be "true" fans but casusl observers. The shows are open to the public and they are entitled to come share in the experience too.

But I do understand. If I lived elsewhere and heard about opening night 4/14, I would be salty too. If I lived elsewhere where W2A had already taken place and paid three or four times what LA is paying for a shorter set I might be salty too. If I couldn't be there and I read complaints and criticisms from people who were, I also might feel like they don't appreciate the blessing being offered to them. I might. So on a certain level I can dig some of where you appear to be coming from.

But as P has said, people make the world go 'round. It is what it is. Just don't label or paint your impressions with such a wide brush.

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Reply #17 posted 05/10/11 1:00pm

FunkDr

GDB - great post ! I dig a lot of what you're saying !

The extremely short notice of the concerts doesn't help people, who have jobs, family etc, put plans in place which would help them attend.

I'm not salty - I know I can't attend, so have no problem with that. Far from it - I wanna hear about the fun times you guys are having ! I'm just a tad disappointed at a lot of the moaning, seemingly sluggish ticket sales and so forth.

I appreciate that I'm not there and thus can't see, hear and experience the vibe each night and so only have a little paint in my pot, (more so than a wide brush to paint with), but it is just the impression I'm getting from what I do read here.

Without being there myself, prince.org (being a primarily US based fan site) is my best chance of gauging how things are going / what's happening at the concerts. Other than a few excited first timer posts, the general impression is leaving my gauge feeling pretty flat. It's unlikely that the casual local resident, understandably going to see a legend play live, is going to post here on the Org - you'd think it be more "hyped" fans here who can't wait to get the next ticket (so easily) !

That's why it is great to read your post and learn of the fun you and your girfriend have had and how you've encouraged others to go and see Prince !

My post was, at least in part, intended to do the same - urging people (whilst acknowledging it didn't apply to everyone) to get back down to the Forum whenever they can, enjoy it and (for those who like to post) tell and show us what a night you had - rather than the multiple posts about "shall I go? dunno? I gotta wash my hair tonight!"

Positivity and plus signs n all that ! cool

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Reply #18 posted 05/10/11 1:00pm

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bobzilla77 said:

I'll write ya long detailed reviews of every show if you would like to fund my attendance. $100 a night should just about cover it.

I think you need an assitant! lol

I don't have time to listen to new music, I've got too much old Prince to discover. Classic example : I was at club Nokia at the midnight show and didn't know "In a large room with no lights" . . . my bad Prince
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Reply #19 posted 05/10/11 1:02pm

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bobzilla77 said:

I'll write ya long detailed reviews of every show if you would like to fund my attendance. $100 a night should just about cover it.

I think you need an assistant! lol

I don't have time to listen to new music, I've got too much old Prince to discover. Classic example : I was at club Nokia at the midnight show and didn't know "In a large room with no lights" . . . my bad Prince
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Reply #20 posted 05/10/11 1:15pm

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rosiesmonkeyhead said:

bobzilla77 said:

I'll write ya long detailed reviews of every show if you would like to fund my attendance. $100 a night should just about cover it.

I think you need an assistant! lol

Yes that would be quite helpful.

$200 a night plus expenses.

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Reply #21 posted 05/10/11 1:17pm

bobzilla77

I don't know why everyone is taking this seriously. FrunkDr used more words to complain about the lack of reviews than can be found in most reviews. I'm not surprised we're not living up to his standards.

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Reply #22 posted 05/10/11 1:19pm

FunkDr

Genesia,

I have been to the US, seen it on TV and also on a map - I get it is BIG but thanks anyway !

the short notice of these dates is a real pain and financial constraints mean many people can't afford to travel thousands of miles, pay for accommodaiton etc - as I said, I get that - that is why I haven't been able to visit for a show or 3 !

LA is big, its population is huge!

My post was as much about the posts of people who clearly can attend but seem stuck in a rut of "can't be bothered, it will take me 30 - 60 minutes to drive to that part of the city, then I gotta park and I don't like the sound in the Forum" etc

Did my post question every US fan and why they are not attending any and every show? NO? Did it apply to you therefore, no! Soit hadn't ought to have irked you - sorry that it clearly has.

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Reply #23 posted 05/10/11 1:26pm

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FunkDr said:

Genesia,

I have been to the US, seen it on TV and also on a map - I get it is BIG but thanks anyway !

the short notice of these dates is a real pain and financial constraints mean many people can't afford to travel thousands of miles, pay for accommodaiton etc - as I said, I get that - that is why I haven't been able to visit for a show or 3 !

LA is big, its population is huge!

My post was as much about the posts of people who clearly can attend but seem stuck in a rut of "can't be bothered, it will take me 30 - 60 minutes to drive to that part of the city, then I gotta park and I don't like the sound in the Forum" etc

Did my post question every US fan and why they are not attending any and every show? NO? Did it apply to you therefore, no! Soit hadn't ought to have irked you - sorry that it clearly has.

Wow.

It didn't irk me, at all. I was just saying. You are clearly irked - so I can only assume your response was projection.

Whatever. I hope nobody writes a decent review and leaves you to stew in your own juices. wave

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Reply #24 posted 05/10/11 1:54pm

GDB

FunkDr said:

GDB - great post ! I dig a lot of what you're saying !

The extremely short notice of the concerts doesn't help people, who have jobs, family etc, put plans in place which would help them attend.

I'm not salty - I know I can't attend, so have no problem with that. Far from it - I wanna hear about the fun times you guys are having ! I'm just a tad disappointed at a lot of the moaning, seemingly sluggish ticket sales and so forth.

I appreciate that I'm not there and thus can't see, hear and experience the vibe each night and so only have a little paint in my pot, (more so than a wide brush to paint with), but it is just the impression I'm getting from what I do read here.

Without being there myself, prince.org (being a primarily US based fan site) is my best chance of gauging how things are going / what's happening at the concerts. Other than a few excited first timer posts, the general impression is leaving my gauge feeling pretty flat. It's unlikely that the casual local resident, understandably going to see a legend play live, is going to post here on the Org - you'd think it be more "hyped" fans here who can't wait to get the next ticket (so easily) !

That's why it is great to read your post and learn of the fun you and your girfriend have had and how you've encouraged others to go and see Prince !

My post was, at least in part, intended to do the same - urging people (whilst acknowledging it didn't apply to everyone) to get back down to the Forum whenever they can, enjoy it and (for those who like to post) tell and show us what a night you had - rather than the multiple posts about "shall I go? dunno? I gotta wash my hair tonight!"

Positivity and plus signs n all that ! cool

Cool. Glad we understand each other. wink

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Reply #25 posted 05/10/11 3:48pm

powersoul99

FunkDr said:

powersoul99 - It just a shame if people regret missed opportunities once these 21 nights are over !

It so accessible for people - both in terms of the tickets being so easy to actually get hold of and also such a great, low price !

If the joy and enthusiasm is there, then surely folk wanna share their experience with people who share their love of Prince?

I'm more of an observer/reader than a "poster" so I can understand that not everyone will post reviews - I don't wanna read thousands biggrin - but just a few, hey? some excitment !!

You'll miss it when it's gone !!

"You'll miss it when it's gone" ? It was never there.

There is more to this than the 21 nights in LA, well thats if there is 21 nights in LA?

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Reply #26 posted 05/10/11 4:05pm

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GDB said:

LA native & resident...I had seen Prince several times prior to the LA residency over the years, and of the ten shows performed thus far I have attended eight of them.

My GF had not seen Prince perform before and I facilitated her first concert, 4/22. She has since gone to four additional concerts. She lives and works an hour and a half from the Forum, has multiple responsibilities that should preclude her from attending anything but a weekend show planned far in advance...and yet she has sacrificed and endured a lot to attend the concerts with me out of nothing but love, enjoyment and appreciation and each time has been an event. She was visibly moved almost to tears after her first couple of experiences.

I have sung Prince's praises far and wide and several other people have attended shows on my word of mouth alone. Some didn't have the funds; others were less enthused and uninterested until hearing from me, then decided to go and had a wonderful time.

I have helped out other Org members by purchasing and shipping merchandise for them because they lived in other states and couldn't fly out to CA at this time. Complete strangers, bonded by nothing more than a mutual love and respect for Prince and a spirit of kindness and generosity.

People of all ages, ethnicities, cultures and creeds have been in attendance during this LA run. Just because some folks don't stand and dance for the entire show doesn't mean they are lazy or uninvolved. I've seen some elderly people there...physically disabled people...people who are tired after work or going through trials and tribulations of which we are unaware who still wanted to come out and perhaps dance in their seats or rest because they had to conserve their energy. Doesn't mean they aren't as passionate a fan as you may be. You don't know what are their circumstances.

I have been to eight of ten and enjoyed them all to varying degrees, some more than others. I am deeply appreciative of Prince and everyone involved with this enterprise for bringing this to Los Angeles for such an affordable price. I think he is almost just giving these shows away to fans for what he is asking. And yet without the special pricing, I and many others would be unable to attend multiple nights and bring others with us. I can complain about repetitive setlists or quality of presentation or even the musicianship if I deem it appropriate...doesn't mean I don't appreciate the event or the generosity behind it.

Don't offer blanket judgments based upon the posts of a few faceless posters on a message board. There is a lot of love and togetherness in the Forum each night Prince performs and yes, there are new fans who are there for the first time or others there taking advantage of the special pricing who may not necessarily be "true" fans but casusl observers. The shows are open to the public and they are entitled to come share in the experience too.

But I do understand. If I lived elsewhere and heard about opening night 4/14, I would be salty too. If I lived elsewhere where W2A had already taken place and paid three or four times what LA is paying for a shorter set I might be salty too. If I couldn't be there and I read complaints and criticisms from people who were, I also might feel like they don't appreciate the blessing being offered to them. I might. So on a certain level I can dig some of where you appear to be coming from.

But as P has said, people make the world go 'round. It is what it is. Just don't label or paint your impressions with such a wide brush.

I agree, excellent post.

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Reply #27 posted 05/10/11 4:11pm

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FunkDr said:

GDB - great post ! I dig a lot of what you're saying !

The extremely short notice of the concerts doesn't help people, who have jobs, family etc, put plans in place which would help them attend.

I'm not salty - I know I can't attend, so have no problem with that. Far from it - I wanna hear about the fun times you guys are having ! I'm just a tad disappointed at a lot of the moaning, seemingly sluggish ticket sales and so forth.

I appreciate that I'm not there and thus can't see, hear and experience the vibe each night and so only have a little paint in my pot, (more so than a wide brush to paint with), but it is just the impression I'm getting from what I do read here.

Without being there myself, prince.org (being a primarily US based fan site) is my best chance of gauging how things are going / what's happening at the concerts. Other than a few excited first timer posts, the general impression is leaving my gauge feeling pretty flat. It's unlikely that the casual local resident, understandably going to see a legend play live, is going to post here on the Org - you'd think it be more "hyped" fans here who can't wait to get the next ticket (so easily) !

That's why it is great to read your post and learn of the fun you and your girfriend have had and how you've encouraged others to go and see Prince !

My post was, at least in part, intended to do the same - urging people (whilst acknowledging it didn't apply to everyone) to get back down to the Forum whenever they can, enjoy it and (for those who like to post) tell and show us what a night you had - rather than the multiple posts about "shall I go? dunno? I gotta wash my hair tonight!"

Positivity and plus signs n all that ! cool

Well, you are salty, hence the title of the thread. We all have our distastes for some of the posts here and for different reasons. I think your thread is primarily based on bullsh*t, because plenty of people have offered detailed information about their experiences at these concerts. I've met several people from the Org and they have been great people, including GDB and his girlfriend. But we don't owe anybody anything here. I come on the org to share information and get information with and from people who enjoy Prince music. Sift through the shallow posts and respond to the substantive ones. At times, like this, I'll even respond to the shallow ones like I'm doing now.

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Reply #28 posted 05/10/11 4:35pm

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powersoul99 said:

FunkDr said:

I'm in the UK and after the credit crunch hit me and my business so hard, there is no way I can make it over the US for any of the W2A concerts!

So I, like many worldwide fans I'm sure, am kinda relying on my American purple hippies to keep me updated with how the concerts are going : detailed reviews, pictures (i know the restrictions but some folk always find a way - me, nah - I'm too busy enjoying it to get my phone or camera out) etc.

Instead, most of the LA concert posts seem to be taken up with a dozen posts consisting of :

- "oh, I'm tired today and have work tomorrow- not sure if I can be bothered to make it down to the Forum and spend $25 to see my 3rd show, I might possibly, maybe go on Saturday"

OR

- "I don't like the opening act tonight so I think I'll skip it and maybe wait until there is a big act opening on another night"

OR

- "Can anyone tell me if they are selling the $200 tickets for $25 tonight? If so, I just might think about swinging by the ticket office...but then again, there is a good program on TV tonight, so I might skip it!"

Then there are about 6 posts giving the set lists and, if we're lucky, maybe a 1st timer recounting a great experience !

I know this doesn't apply to everyone and there are fans attending multiple shows and travelling from far and wide to be there, BUT overall it seems pathetic !!!

What the heck is wrong with people? P is nearly 53 - he ain't gonna be doing these type of shows forever ! An yet, the apathy around whether to bother going or not - from supposed FANS - is amazing !! Some can't even be bothered to phone the venue or promoter to check ticket availability - they ask other Orgers to do it !!!

$25 people !!! What is there to think about?? Sure, going to a few shows will add up to a fair bit of money, but jeeze !!

Can't be bothered to go...can't be bothered to give a fun, detailed review!!

We had 21 nights in London in 2007. Fans travelled from all over Europe to see the concerts - NOT just an hour drive from elsehwere in LA. The tickets were more expensive, there were (fantastic) aftershow tickets to buy too and the travel would have been more costly ! Yet each night was sold out and Housequake.com had lots of posters giving detailed accounts of the shows !!

Added to that, you couldn't just swing by the box office and pick up a ticket easily - you had to deal with ticketmaster and be online / on the phone for ages trying to get a ticket !!

Sure, the O2 gigs were pre credit crunch and I know how drastically my own financial situation has worsened...but c'mon guys - you seem to have it so easy and cheap - but just can't be bothered !!!

Where is the passion? We are so spoilt - having the opportunity to see this guy live - whatever your thoughts about set lists or him not being at his '84-'95 live, split-funking peak - it is still PRINCE live - the greatest live artist ever - period !!

Now there is some doubt or question over his relationship with Live Nation that could jeopardise the remainder of the residency !!

P - time to "get on the boat" and head for the UK and the rest of Europe - I reckon we still have the energy and love !!!

Welcome 2 America !!

I totally Agree with you.

When in Europe there was setlists and photo's.

But we shouldnt complain as it's always been like that when he's in the U.S.

If he does visit the UK anytime soon, get ready for a good old British moan about something. You guys are the experts.

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Reply #29 posted 05/10/11 4:36pm

LayDownMisty

parking fees, traffic, etc........everything adds up and the economy sucks right now too

also, you must consider that less than 1% of the people that attend the Forum shows are on the org

and the ones on the org are diehard fans pretty much

so we are not impressed much by shows like this where he is playing a few hits and plenty of covers

Prince - not black, not white........just COOL
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