it would be great to hear 17 Days, Somebody's Somebody, Sun Moon and Stars, or even Most Beautiful Girl in the World. i remember that when the Emancipation shows would end and crowd would be exiting, they would play Somebodys Somebody on the PA, but i dont know if he ever performed it live. it is surprising to me that he hasnt done Most Beautiful Girl on this tour- i thought it would be kind of hard not to do that one.

This does really make much sense or fair comparing the WTA to the Earth tour. I was at all of them 21 nights and the aftershows, and the sound quality wasn’t that great at the o2 main show or the view and the setlist is not much different to WTA either, just all the hits again.

Now the Indigo nights was a different story and were obviously better coz there was 21 aftershows and of course the quality of music plus with the capacity of only 2000 its gonna be better and also only paying £25 for them. Those Indigo aftershows were the best Prince shows ever they were unpretentious and fun. But the WTA doesn’t have them kind of aftershows or so many so there is no comparison and is unfair to rub it into people's noses. These americans are paying a lot of money for these shows, just let them enjoy it for what it is.

One thing WTA has more than the Earth tour is a much much better band thats for sure.

[Edited 1/17/11 7:45am]

catpark said:

This does really make much sense or fair comparing the WTA to the Earth tour. I was at all of them 21 nights and the aftershows, and the sound quality wasn’t that great at the o2 main show or the view and the setlist is not much different to WTA either, just all the hits again.

Now the Indigo nights was a different story and were obviously better coz there was 21 aftershows and of course the quality of music plus with the capacity of only 2000 its gonna be better and also only paying £25 for them. Those Indigo aftershows were the best Prince shows ever they were unpretentious and fun. But the WTA doesn’t have them kind of aftershows or so many so there is no comparison and is unfair to rub it into people's noses. These americans are paying a lot of money for these shows, just let them enjoy it for what it is.

One thing WTA has more than the Earth tour is a much much better band thats for sure.

[Edited 1/17/11 7:45am]

21 aftershows??? Really????

eireboy34 said:

catpark said:

This does really make much sense or fair comparing the WTA to the Earth tour. I was at all of them 21 nights and the aftershows, and the sound quality wasn’t that great at the o2 main show or the view and the setlist is not much different to WTA either, just all the hits again.

Now the Indigo nights was a different story and were obviously better coz there was 21 aftershows and of course the quality of music plus with the capacity of only 2000 its gonna be better and also only paying £25 for them. Those Indigo aftershows were the best Prince shows ever they were unpretentious and fun. But the WTA doesn’t have them kind of aftershows or so many so there is no comparison and is unfair to rub it into people's noses. These americans are paying a lot of money for these shows, just let them enjoy it for what it is.

One thing WTA has more than the Earth tour is a much much better band thats for sure.

[Edited 1/17/11 7:45am]

21 aftershows??? Really????

Yes, but he didn’t perform at all of them, he must of done about half of them as far as I remember. The nights he didn’t perform there was just the band.

catpark said:

This does really make much sense or fair comparing the WTA to the Earth tour. I was at all of them 21 nights and the aftershows, and the sound quality wasn’t that great at the o2 main show or the view and the setlist is not much different to WTA either, just all the hits again.

Now the Indigo nights was a different story and were obviously better coz there was 21 aftershows and of course the quality of music plus with the capacity of only 2000 its gonna be better and also only paying £25 for them. Those Indigo aftershows were the best Prince shows ever they were unpretentious and fun. But the WTA doesn’t have them kind of aftershows or so many so there is no comparison and is unfair to rub it into people's noses. These americans are paying a lot of money for these shows, just let them enjoy it for what it is.

One thing WTA has more than the Earth tour is a much much better band thats for sure.

[Edited 1/17/11 7:45am]

jeeze, once again this is MY valued judgement. So are you saying that none of us are allowed to draw any comparisons between say the 1999 and Controversy tours if we had not attended. Likewise if I my comparison on the 02 vs. WTA shows make no sense then neither does your comparison of the bands?!. Like I also said previously I want the US fans to get the best because it's been too long since he's toured there and they deserve better , a LOT BETTER, for the $ they've been paying.

catpark said:

eireboy34 said:

21 aftershows??? Really????

Yes, but he didn’t perform at all of them, he must of done about half of them as far as I remember. The nights he didn’t perform there was just the band.

it's 'HAVE' not 'OF' - serioulsy this is such a pet hate of mine!

funkyhead said:

catpark said:

Yes, but he didn’t perform at all of them, he must of done about half of them as far as I remember. The nights he didn’t perform there was just the band.

it's 'HAVE' not 'OF' - serioulsy this is such a pet hate of mine!

Do you SERIOULSY have any other pet hates???

eireboy34 said:

funkyhead said:

it's 'HAVE' not 'OF' - serioulsy this is such a pet hate of mine!

Do you SERIOULSY have any other pet hates???

too many to mention! . Come on using 'of' instead of 'have' is truly piss poor use of the Queens English and is either ignornant, lazy or both. Forget going to P gigs, get your ass into night school!

funkyhead said:

eireboy34 said:

Do you SERIOULSY have any other pet hates???

too many to mention! . Come on using 'of' instead of 'have' is truly piss poor use of the Queens English and is either ignornant, lazy or both. Forget going to P gigs, get your ass into night school!

What about correct spelling? Where do you stand on that?

funkyhead said:

catpark said:

This does really make much sense or fair comparing the WTA to the Earth tour. I was at all of them 21 nights and the aftershows, and the sound quality wasn’t that great at the o2 main show or the view and the setlist is not much different to WTA either, just all the hits again.

Now the Indigo nights was a different story and were obviously better coz there was 21 aftershows and of course the quality of music plus with the capacity of only 2000 its gonna be better and also only paying £25 for them. Those Indigo aftershows were the best Prince shows ever they were unpretentious and fun. But the WTA doesn’t have them kind of aftershows or so many so there is no comparison and is unfair to rub it into people's noses. These americans are paying a lot of money for these shows, just let them enjoy it for what it is.

One thing WTA has more than the Earth tour is a much much better band thats for sure.

[Edited 1/17/11 7:45am]

jeeze, once again this is MY valued judgement. So are you saying that none of us are allowed to draw any comparisons between say the 1999 and Controversy tours if we had not attended. Likewise if I my comparison on the 02 vs. WTA shows make no sense then neither does your comparison of the bands?!. Like I also said previously I want the US fans to get the best because it's been too long since he's toured there and they deserve better , a LOT BETTER, for the $ they've been paying.

I get what ur saying and its ur judgement and all but isn't up to them to say whether they think the concerts are good or not? Not having some person from another country basically going, our concerts of 5 years ago was better than urs coz of this and that etc, when ur not even there. The only people that can give a true account is someone thats been to both tours. They haven't had a show in years and we all know how expensive the WTA tickets are, (we got very lucky with £31/£25 prices), so let them enjoy what they’ve got and leave them to it, instead of trying to prove how much of a bad deal they're getting for there money. Its not nice.

As for the band, I saw Prince in Europe in 2010 so my band comparison makes sense.

funkyhead said:

eireboy34 said:

Do you SERIOULSY have any other pet hates???

too many to mention! . Come on using 'of' instead of 'have' is truly piss poor use of the Queens English and is either ignornant, lazy or both. Forget going to P gigs, get your ass into night school!

So now ur getting pissy with me and calling me names over me the using the word ‘of’ instead of have...are u well in ur head? Cuz of that u tell me I have poor Queens English when u can’t even spell simple words?

Is this a joke or something? wtf?

[Edited 1/18/11 15:46pm]

catpark said:

eireboy34 said:

21 aftershows??? Really????

Yes, but he didn’t perform at all of them, he must of done about half of them as far as I remember. The nights he didn’t perform there was just the band.

About half of them?

Get your facts right before you post.

Also oi see the troll is back on here.

powersoul99 said:

catpark said:

Yes, but he didn’t perform at all of them, he must of done about half of them as far as I remember. The nights he didn’t perform there was just the band.

About half of them?

Get your facts right before you post.

Hang on, instead of telling me about getting my facts right before I post, why didn't u just post how many aftershows Prince actually performed at instead of trying to be a smart arse towards me. I can't even remember every detail of them as I was at too many shows and it was a long time ago. And I can't even remember what I did last week much less than over 4 yrs ago.

This is pointless and stupid. You men can whinge about WTA/O2 tour between urselves until the end of time, keep me out of it coz I’m really not interested and I rather watch paint dry... laters

[Edited 1/18/11 17:24pm]

Not after tonight's set list. Good God

catpark said:

powersoul99 said:

About half of them?

Get your facts right before you post.

Hang on, instead of telling me about getting my facts right before I post, why didn't u just post how many aftershows Prince actually performed at instead of trying to be a smart arse towards me. I can't even remember every detail of them as I was at too many shows and it was a long time ago. And I can't even remember what I did last week much less than over 4 yrs ago.

This is pointless and stupid. You men can whinge about WTA/O2 tour between urselves until the end of time, keep me out of it coz I’m really not interested and I rather watch paint dry... laters

[Edited 1/18/11 17:24pm]

You say your not intrested and it was so long ago you cant remember.

So why are you posting on this thread?

I know, you thought you could just come on here and slag him off and no one would take much notice.

eireboy34 said:

funkyhead said:

too many to mention! . Come on using 'of' instead of 'have' is truly piss poor use of the Queens English and is either ignornant, lazy or both. Forget going to P gigs, get your ass into night school!

What about correct spelling? Where do you stand on that?

you got me there!! lol:-P

Now, in the words of Housequake I can finally 'Shut up already,Damn' !. Last nights gig looks more like it and I truly hope sets the bar for any future US shows. It surely also makes sense from a marketing point of view i.e. reviews of last nights show should spur on ticket sales etc.

Thanks P!.

catpark said:

funkyhead said:

jeeze, once again this is MY valued judgement. So are you saying that none of us are allowed to draw any comparisons between say the 1999 and Controversy tours if we had not attended. Likewise if I my comparison on the 02 vs. WTA shows make no sense then neither does your comparison of the bands?!. Like I also said previously I want the US fans to get the best because it's been too long since he's toured there and they deserve better , a LOT BETTER, for the $ they've been paying.

I get what ur saying and its ur judgement and all but isn't up to them to say whether they think the concerts are good or not? Not having some person from another country basically going, our concerts of 5 years ago was better than urs coz of this and that etc, when ur not even there. The only people that can give a true account is someone thats been to both tours. They haven't had a show in years and we all know how expensive the WTA tickets are, (we got very lucky with £31/£25 prices), so let them enjoy what they’ve got and leave them to it, instead of trying to prove how much of a bad deal they're getting for there money. Its not nice.

Right. If the majority of the people attending the NY shows are raving about them, then it sounds to me they are getting their money's worth.

funkyhead said:

wow, what the hell happened?. I was so excited for the USA fans and had hoped they got what we got at the o2 i.e. every night really was different i.e. funk theme, rock theme, hits etc + the setlists were great, the shows were lonnnnnnnng! and the aftershows were stellar!. Instead the US seems to have a very short show, a truly uninspired set list and littel variance.

I hope that any other shows announced will give you the variety that he promised at that start. Seems like Europe is where his heart is?

well all i can say he made up for those warm up show last night with a Stellar 32 song setlist

and a great performance by him with 3 encores!! and i've been to all three show here in Nyc! i can't wait for the 7th!! Lets Work!!

I'd just like to say peace all.

It's not a competition which show or aftershow was better than the other. To each his own.

If you constantly compare which show was better it will be hard to enjoy future shows.

Let's be happy this man is still around and gives us so much joy--wherever he plays.

how the hell did i miss this thread? lol

alright after reading other's posts i had 2 chuckle at some responses. let's start with the intial post..it's nice that u can try 2 compare the o2 shows 2 this series of concerts cause when the o2 shows occured and catpark can vouch 4 me about this cause we're cool like that, i never went 2 one o2 show but i have all 21 shows via audio/dvd, i said it then and i will say it now 3 years and some days after the shows ..Y'ALL GOT THE EUROPEAN VERSION OF THE MUSICOLOGY TOUR THAT THE UNITED STATES HAD 3 YEARS PRIOR!! the same exact concept of the musicology tour was what the o2 shows were, free album ..musicology/planet earth, stage in the round..circle stage/symbol stage, same type of setlist with a few new songs thrown in. now it's basically the same thing here with the w2a setlist vs the o2 setlist which is still the same musicology tour set so where is your comparison?

now for another person's post, i can see the argument about being at the shows and being able 2 speak on it, but not really. in this day and age where these shows are up online in a matter of days or in some instances the next day it's ones discretion on checking them out or not 2 check them out. but i really feel one doesn't have 2 b there 2 comment on how the shows truly are. i haven't been 2 any of prince's shows since the musicology show for one reason and one reason only..the setlist has been boring as fuck!! yes there are splashes of OOH WOW but mainly it's been a "been there done that feel" now on 1/18 that show was fucking awesome but there were still moments of been there done that.

enjoy the shows 4 what they are but let's not be dillusional. this is still not the prince that came on stage and wrecked it cause of the music choice selections. now if u really wanna compare a prince tour ..let's talk ONA NOW THAT WAS A FUCKING SHOW AND TOUR

Very true..for this I am thankful...

JorsDePauper said:

I'd just like to say peace all.

It's not a competition which show or aftershow was better than the other. To each his own.

If you constantly compare which show was better it will be hard to enjoy future shows.

Let's be happy this man is still around and gives us so much joy--wherever he plays.

The problem is, as much as Prince likes to say, "too many hits" the reality is that he won't play a significant portion of those hits anymore. Therefore, that leaves the hits those of us who attend multiple concerts may be tired of hearing. As has been stated many times, in order to fill areas, he has to play his hits. Therefore, we shouldn't complain. At least he tends to change up those hits. I mean the version he is doing of Little Red Corvette is the best he has done in years and the same with Kiss. Purple Rain, well, it also has to be done. He didn't do 1999 for a good number of years between 2000 and the O2 shows so we shouldn't complain about him doing that. Let's go Crazy is a classic and is always great in concert. So, there you have it. That is my observation.

It would be nice to have him mix in some other songs at each of the concerts like he did on the 18th with a little more variety. Songs like Gold, Anastasia, Lovesexy and others are great live and it would be nice to hear them again along with newer material like Dreamer that was awesome. The 18th was perfect in my opinion-a nice mix of old and new, understanding that he has to do those hits to sell out multiple nights at a place like MSG.

L4OATheOriginal said:

how the hell did i miss this thread? lol

alright after reading other's posts i had 2 chuckle at some responses. let's start with the intial post..it's nice that u can try 2 compare the o2 shows 2 this series of concerts cause when the o2 shows occured and catpark can vouch 4 me about this cause we're cool like that, i never went 2 one o2 show but i have all 21 shows via audio/dvd, i said it then and i will say it now 3 years and some days after the shows ..Y'ALL GOT THE EUROPEAN VERSION OF THE MUSICOLOGY TOUR THAT THE UNITED STATES HAD 3 YEARS PRIOR!! the same exact concept of the musicology tour was what the o2 shows were, free album ..musicology/planet earth, stage in the round..circle stage/symbol stage, same type of setlist with a few new songs thrown in. now it's basically the same thing here with the w2a setlist vs the o2 setlist which is still the same musicology tour set so where is your comparison?

now for another person's post, i can see the argument about being at the shows and being able 2 speak on it, but not really. in this day and age where these shows are up online in a matter of days or in some instances the next day it's ones discretion on checking them out or not 2 check them out. but i really feel one doesn't have 2 b there 2 comment on how the shows truly are. i haven't been 2 any of prince's shows since the musicology show for one reason and one reason only..the setlist has been boring as fuck!! yes there are splashes of OOH WOW but mainly it's been a "been there done that feel" now on 1/18 that show was fucking awesome but there were still moments of been there done that.

enjoy the shows 4 what they are but let's not be dillusional. this is still not the prince that came on stage and wrecked it cause of the music choice selections. now if u really wanna compare a prince tour ..let's talk ONA NOW THAT WAS A FUCKING SHOW AND TOUR

catpark said:

eireboy34 said:

21 aftershows??? Really????

Yes, but he didn’t perform at all of them, he must of done about half of them as far as I remember. The nights he didn’t perform there was just the band.

I had the misfortune to only attend one O2 aftershow, the legendary Dr John / P. no-show.

So frustrating... I like Dr John but couldn't enjoy him as I wanted him off stage so P could come on.

vandeluca said:

Very true..for this I am thankful...

JorsDePauper said:

I'd just like to say peace all.

It's not a competition which show or aftershow was better than the other. To each his own.

If you constantly compare which show was better it will be hard to enjoy future shows.

Let's be happy this man is still around and gives us so much joy--wherever he plays.

that's only true to a point. Are you seriously saying that we should be always glad that the 'ledgend' is around whilst giving out average shows and average CDs when we damn well know he could do so much better. Frankly I'd rather he went away for 3 years and came back with something super strong / creative and in the meantime we could take the time to enjoy what he's done so far. This is of course all IMHO and if people are happy with their lot then so be it. All I will add is look at the reaction to the last show - P put on a real performance and the reaction on here was great.

funkyhead said:

vandeluca said:

Very true..for this I am thankful...

that's only true to a point. Are you seriously saying that we should be always glad that the 'ledgend' is around whilst giving out average shows and average CDs when we damn well know he could do so much better. Frankly I'd rather he went away for 3 years and came back with something super strong / creative and in the meantime we could take the time to enjoy what he's done so far. This is of course all IMHO and if people are happy with their lot then so be it. All I will add is look at the reaction to the last show - P put on a real performance and the reaction on here was great.

I will probably agree with you 10 or more years ago. It's been 30 years already and he's older. Going away for some time is not an option. I say its been and continues to be a great ride, so enjoy it while you can until the Holy Father calls him home.

funkyhead said:

vandeluca said:

Very true..for this I am thankful...

that's only true to a point. Are you seriously saying that we should be always glad that the 'ledgend' is around whilst giving out average shows and average CDs when we damn well know he could do so much better. Frankly I'd rather he went away for 3 years and came back with something super strong / creative and in the meantime we could take the time to enjoy what he's done so far. This is of course all IMHO and if people are happy with their lot then so be it. All I will add is look at the reaction to the last show - P put on a real performance and the reaction on here was great.

The point is, every show, as well as every single or cd he puts out, will have a different effect and experience for everyone, especially since we all have different tastes in his music. Having one, general opinion for all fans, about how he presents his music during a stage performance or the music he releases, would be impossible for everyone to agree on, and that's never going to happen. Different strokes for different folks.

[Edited 1/25/11 6:43am]

2elijah said:

funkyhead said:

that's only true to a point. Are you seriously saying that we should be always glad that the 'ledgend' is around whilst giving out average shows and average CDs when we damn well know he could do so much better. Frankly I'd rather he went away for 3 years and came back with something super strong / creative and in the meantime we could take the time to enjoy what he's done so far. This is of course all IMHO and if people are happy with their lot then so be it. All I will add is look at the reaction to the last show - P put on a real performance and the reaction on here was great.

The point is, every show, as well as every single or cd he puts out, will have a different effect and experience for everyone, especially since we all have different tastes in his music. Having one, general opinion for all fans, about how he presents his music during a stage performance or the music he releases, would be impossible for everyone to agree on, and that's never going to happen. Different strokes for different folks.

[Edited 1/25/11 6:43am]

So true.

ficktyt said:

The problem is, as much as Prince likes to say, "too many hits" the reality is that he won't play a significant portion of those hits anymore. Therefore, that leaves the hits those of us who attend multiple concerts may be tired of hearing. As has been stated many times, in order to fill areas, he has to play his hits. Therefore, we shouldn't complain. At least he tends to change up those hits. I mean the version he is doing of Little Red Corvette is the best he has done in years and the same with Kiss. Purple Rain, well, it also has to be done. He didn't do 1999 for a good number of years between 2000 and the O2 shows so we shouldn't complain about him doing that. Let's go Crazy is a classic and is always great in concert. So, there you have it. That is my observation.

It would be nice to have him mix in some other songs at each of the concerts like he did on the 18th with a little more variety. Songs like Gold, Anastasia, Lovesexy and others are great live and it would be nice to hear them again along with newer material like Dreamer that was awesome. The 18th was perfect in my opinion-a nice mix of old and new, understanding that he has to do those hits to sell out multiple nights at a place like MSG.

L4OATheOriginal said:

how the hell did i miss this thread? lol

alright after reading other's posts i had 2 chuckle at some responses. let's start with the intial post..it's nice that u can try 2 compare the o2 shows 2 this series of concerts cause when the o2 shows occured and catpark can vouch 4 me about this cause we're cool like that, i never went 2 one o2 show but i have all 21 shows via audio/dvd, i said it then and i will say it now 3 years and some days after the shows ..Y'ALL GOT THE EUROPEAN VERSION OF THE MUSICOLOGY TOUR THAT THE UNITED STATES HAD 3 YEARS PRIOR!! the same exact concept of the musicology tour was what the o2 shows were, free album ..musicology/planet earth, stage in the round..circle stage/symbol stage, same type of setlist with a few new songs thrown in. now it's basically the same thing here with the w2a setlist vs the o2 setlist which is still the same musicology tour set so where is your comparison?

now for another person's post, i can see the argument about being at the shows and being able 2 speak on it, but not really. in this day and age where these shows are up online in a matter of days or in some instances the next day it's ones discretion on checking them out or not 2 check them out. but i really feel one doesn't have 2 b there 2 comment on how the shows truly are. i haven't been 2 any of prince's shows since the musicology show for one reason and one reason only..the setlist has been boring as fuck!! yes there are splashes of OOH WOW but mainly it's been a "been there done that feel" now on 1/18 that show was fucking awesome but there were still moments of been there done that.

enjoy the shows 4 what they are but let's not be dillusional. this is still not the prince that came on stage and wrecked it cause of the music choice selections. now if u really wanna compare a prince tour ..let's talk ONA NOW THAT WAS A FUCKING SHOW AND TOUR

the significance of him doing 1999 is a farce considering he had said b4 the rave un2 the year 2000 the need 2 do 1999 anymore after that was irrelevant..so much 4 prince's word at this point in prince's career imo doing smaller theaters is the way he needs 2 go so that his own musical growth can transpire. then the lame ducks at msg that don't even know songs like uptown can stay home and let the true party people get their groove on

2elijah said:

funkyhead said:

that's only true to a point. Are you seriously saying that we should be always glad that the 'ledgend' is around whilst giving out average shows and average CDs when we damn well know he could do so much better. Frankly I'd rather he went away for 3 years and came back with something super strong / creative and in the meantime we could take the time to enjoy what he's done so far. This is of course all IMHO and if people are happy with their lot then so be it. All I will add is look at the reaction to the last show - P put on a real performance and the reaction on here was great.

The point is, every show, as well as every single or cd he puts out, will have a different effect and experience for everyone, especially since we all have different tastes in his music. Having one, general opinion for all fans, about how he presents his music during a stage performance or the music he releases, would be impossible for everyone to agree on, and that's never going to happen. Different strokes for different folks.

[Edited 1/25/11 6:43am]

this i agree with cause many of his "fans" still waiting 4 either the next purple rain album or sott or wants the revolution 2 hop back on stage. then there are others like me that want the NPG from the gold experience 2 come back on stage and whoop ass like they always do!! i personally wish on his cd's that the linn drum goes away and someone like john blackwell, michael b, or sheila 2 do the drumming instead. the slapping of the bass by prince or someone capable 2 funk it up and then there are those that want the rock cd.