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Thread started 09/30/10 11:04am

LasVegas3121

Start of ticket sales for Antwerp and Helsinki postponed!

http://www.sportpaleis.be/

Ticket sales for the Prince concert on October 26th at the Antwerp Sportpaleis will not be starting tomorrow morning at 9am. However, it is possible to register your email address. When the definitive starting time for ticket sales is established, you will receive an email containing this information. Ticket sales are being postponed for reasons to do with production. The concert production team are making some last minute changes to the technical lay-out of the venue. As a result, the organisers have no choice but to postpone ticket sales until production has been finalised. The Belgian concert is part of a European tour, stopping off in Denmark, Norway, Finland and Italy. The date for the Antwerp concert, October 26th, is certainly not under any threat. Prince fans will have to show a little bit extra patience, but it will definitely be worth the wait! The organisers apologise for any inconvenience.

http://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/artikkeli/Princen+konsertin+lipunmyynti%C3%A4+lyk%C3%A4t%C3%A4%C3%A4n+my%C3%B6hemm%C3%A4ksi/1135260535682

Prince concert ticket sales postpones
Popstar Prince Helsinki concert ticket sales will start. The concert organizer RL Entertainment, sales may not begin as planned on Friday, 1 October, because the artist has not yet decided the location of the platform arena.
Ticket sales start demanding the transfer of Prince's tour staff. The new date will be announced later.
According to the organizer of the concert, Prince wants to make sure that the platform is all viewers the best possible location and that as many as possible can watch the concert.

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Reply #1 posted 09/30/10 12:53pm

Rewi

Can't say that I'm too surprised about this... Like I said, I won't believe he's performing until he gets on stage. lol

If I hadn't already been at the O2 three years ago, I would be buying tickets for another show just to be safe(r).

Maybe that's the plan? To get people buying duplicate tickets. wink

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Reply #2 posted 09/30/10 1:06pm

Mirabelle

Might B Bcuz of the size of the stage (bigger venue required?) or other concerts that might B scheduled in etc. Let's wait and C. I subscribed 2 the Sportpaleis so I will B informed if and when ticket sale starts.

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Reply #3 posted 10/01/10 2:08am

jfrost

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LasVegas3121 said:

Popstar Prince Helsinki concert ticket sales will start. The concert organizer RL Entertainment, sales may not begin as planned on Friday, 1 October, because the artist has not yet decided the location of the platform arena.
Ticket sales start demanding the transfer of Prince's tour staff. The new date will be announced later.
According to the organizer of the concert, Prince wants to make sure that the platform is all viewers the best possible location and that as many as possible can watch the concert.

Is this a hint perhaps that the stage is in the round!!! biggrin

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Reply #4 posted 10/03/10 12:57am

mblevels

Any news yet? Every day that goes by without hearing when the ticket sale starts makes me more and more uncomfortable about whether the show will go on or not...
You mean you're gonna actually hear what we play tonight? You're not gonna make up the notes in your mind?
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Reply #5 posted 10/03/10 2:49am

udo

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jfrost said:

Is this a hint perhaps that the stage is in the round!!! biggrin

It is not a hint, it is highly unprofessional management and very rude towards the fans to change schedules with very little warning time.

Why oh why was there some sort of agreement and a presale announced?

Because mr P could change his mind in such a big way that they cannot accomodoate these changes in an hour or two (just change some numbers of tickets here and there for the presale) but postpone stuff indefinitely (still no presale date known).

And exactly this appears to have happened.

Or we see at least two cases of severe miscommunication which require some 'management' involvement because of the long delays that are caused. Why not do the presale on the saturday?

Or announce it for monday?

No....

They are slow and uncertain.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #6 posted 10/03/10 3:03pm

xenophobia2002

udo said:



jfrost said:


Is this a hint perhaps that the stage is in the round!!! biggrin




It is not a hint, it is highly unprofessional management and very rude towards the fans to change schedules with very little warning time.



Why oh why was there some sort of agreement and a presale announced?


Because mr P could change his mind in such a big way that they cannot accomodoate these changes in an hour or two (just change some numbers of tickets here and there for the presale) but postpone stuff indefinitely (still no presale date known).


And exactly this appears to have happened.


Or we see at least two cases of severe miscommunication which require some 'management' involvement because of the long delays that are caused. Why not do the presale on the saturday?


Or announce it for monday?


No....


They are slow and uncertain.



Indeed, but at least another Dublin fiasco is avoided
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Reply #7 posted 10/03/10 11:22pm

Rewi

As of this morning, the Finnish promoter is saying that the Helsinki concert has been postponed to a later date...

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Reply #8 posted 10/03/10 11:29pm

Ville

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Rewi said:

As of this morning, the Finnish promoter is saying that the Helsinki concert has been postponed to a later date...

This is starting to look like the last four times Prince was scheduled to perform in Helsinki confused http://www.lippu.fi/Publi...mp;theme=3

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Reply #9 posted 10/04/10 12:02am

brechten

my god, this is bad!

i hope antwerp doesn't share the same faith!

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Reply #10 posted 10/04/10 1:55am

udo

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brechten said:

my god, this is bad!

This is peak unprofessionalism until we hear the REAL story.

How can a (supposedly professional) promotor announce presales and then postpone them and then postpone the whole gig?

Something very similar is going on in Antwerp.

Different promotor.

Same 'artist'.

Now what would be the cause?

You take a guess.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #11 posted 10/04/10 4:38am

xenophobia2002

udo said:

brechten said:

my god, this is bad!

This is peak unprofessionalism until we hear the REAL story.

How can a (supposedly professional) promotor announce presales and then postpone them and then postpone the whole gig?

Something very similar is going on in Antwerp.

Different promotor.

Same 'artist'.

Now what would be the cause?

You take a guess.

hahahaha, but I trust his management this show will take place on the 26th

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Reply #12 posted 10/04/10 5:25am

Kullervo68

Ville said:

Rewi said:

As of this morning, the Finnish promoter is saying that the Helsinki concert has been postponed to a later date...

This is starting to look like the last four times Prince was scheduled to perform in Helsinki confused http://www.lippu.fi/Publi...mp;theme=3

Even Prince is propably the best living performer, there won't be any audience left, if he doesn't fix this and soon. This kinda behaviour is very rude towards people who have supported him several decades already.

I'm so mad at this moment. Especially when I have to disappoint my dear daughter who was going to Helsinki concert. For me this was the third time.

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Reply #13 posted 10/04/10 5:30am

udo

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xenophobia2002 said:

hahahaha, but I trust his management this show will take place on the 26th

Why would you trust them after mismanaging the situation in Helsinki?
I guess the same 'isue' causes the delay.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #14 posted 10/04/10 7:24am

xenophobia2002

udo said:

xenophobia2002 said:

hahahaha, but I trust his management this show will take place on the 26th

Why would you trust them after mismanaging the situation in Helsinki?
I guess the same 'isue' causes the delay.

I know we both know, that "issue" means a lot of $$$ in this case, and I think a show in Belgium sells out faster than in Finland, so, the Antwerp show will go ahead

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Reply #15 posted 10/04/10 7:33am

RodeoSchro

Dang, if Prince isn't careful he's going to be known as the George Jones of his era.

And I don't mean the "He Stopped Loving Her Today" George Jones. I mean No-Show Jones.

True story - my dad owned a C&W club back in the 60's. George Jones was booked, and actually showed up. But one song into the set, he turned his back on the crowd. My dad's partner realized that Jones was taking a pee right on stage, and threw George out onto Telephone Road.

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Reply #16 posted 10/04/10 7:53am

Kullervo68

xenophobia2002 said:

udo said:

Why would you trust them after mismanaging the situation in Helsinki?
I guess the same 'isue' causes the delay.

I know we both know, that "issue" means a lot of $$$ in this case, and I think a show in Belgium sells out faster than in Finland, so, the Antwerp show will go ahead

It's not the issue of selling the show. Prince would defenitely sell out the gig in Helsinki, if he only bother to come at all. He has already sold out 4 arenas in 1988 and 1990.

But this way, he will only loose a tons of diehard fans. And worse than that, the next P-generation as well - including my 11 years old daughter.

I'm sure there won't be any concert in Antwerp either. My wild guess is, that he is "blackmailing" the concert organizers to give more money ahead or something.

[Edited 10/4/10 7:54am]

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Reply #17 posted 10/04/10 8:26am

xenophobia2002

Kullervo68 said:

xenophobia2002 said:

I know we both know, that "issue" means a lot of $$$ in this case, and I think a show in Belgium sells out faster than in Finland, so, the Antwerp show will go ahead

It's not the issue of selling the show. Prince would defenitely sell out the gig in Helsinki, if he only bother to come at all. He has already sold out 4 arenas in 1988 and 1990.

But this way, he will only loose a tons of diehard fans. And worse than that, the next P-generation as well - including my 11 years old daughter.

I'm sure there won't be any concert in Antwerp either. My wild guess is, that he is "blackmailing" the concert organizers to give more money ahead or something.

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promotors dilemma, will we pay Prince $1.000.000,00 and will we sell enough tickets to cover this.

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Reply #18 posted 10/04/10 8:47am

Kullervo68

xenophobia2002 said:

Kullervo68 said:

It's not the issue of selling the show. Prince would defenitely sell out the gig in Helsinki, if he only bother to come at all. He has already sold out 4 arenas in 1988 and 1990.

But this way, he will only loose a tons of diehard fans. And worse than that, the next P-generation as well - including my 11 years old daughter.

I'm sure there won't be any concert in Antwerp either. My wild guess is, that he is "blackmailing" the concert organizers to give more money ahead or something.

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promotors dilemma, will we pay Prince $1.000.000,00 and will we sell enough tickets to cover this.

Well, there isn't such a problem in Finland. Helsinki Areena is much more bigger place than most of the concert places in 20TEN tour. For me, this is a proof of how unprofessionally things are arranged in Prince's management.

You just don't cancel 5 arena concerts in a row at the same country and get away from it. This of course, IF Helsinki concert isn't just postponed. There's a still slight hope, they will find resolution.

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Reply #19 posted 10/04/10 9:48am

udo

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Kullervo68 said:

You just don't cancel 5 arena concerts in a row at the same country and get away from it. This of course, IF Helsinki concert isn't just postponed. There's a still slight hope, they will find resolution.

Maybe it is the same type of postponement as the Geneva gig.

I mean: this small set of shows could also have landed there but (so far) it doesn't.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #20 posted 10/04/10 9:56am

RodeoSchro

I don't think poor ticket sales is the reason for this, as tickets never even went on sale, right? So no one would really know if there was going to be poor ticket sales, correct?

If the stage excuse isn't valid, then I'm guessing one side didn't want to pay the other side up front.

Just a guess, though. I hope the show goes on.

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Reply #21 posted 10/04/10 10:27am

Rewi

Ticket sales certainly isn't an excuse when lesser acts perform on the arena regularily. There just aren't that many shows in Finland to begin with.

I would agree that the real reason is money and/or contract issues.

The promoter is a newcomer who has sold about as many tickets to all his shows as there are seats on the arena... There's no way he would be able to pay anything substantial in advance, and there's no way he would risk everything by selling a million euros worth of tickets without a solid contract.

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