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Where are all the listings of bootlegs that were on the DATA base? I used the DATA bank to cross-reference my bootlegs, and now, I can't because the DATA bank no longer exists and this site doesn't have anything about them. What a fabulous tool the DATA bank was for looking for and finding different bootlegs, what is it with this world? People should be sharing bootlegs, not being looked at like criminals. How else are we supposed to hear a show? Especially one we can't go to or one we always heard about but never heard? They are never released, it is a huge waste. This site should put up the old DATA bank records of bootlegs so we know which shows we have and which we need. Is that a crime? | |
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imajica73 said: I used the DATA bank to cross-reference my bootlegs, and now, I can't because the DATA bank no longer exists and this site doesn't have anything about them. What a fabulous tool the DATA bank was for looking for and finding different bootlegs, what is it with this world? People should be sharing bootlegs, not being looked at like criminals. How else are we supposed to hear a show? Especially one we can't go to or one we always heard about but never heard? They are never released, it is a huge waste. This site should put up the old DATA bank records of bootlegs so we know which shows we have and which we need. Is that a crime?
Hmmm, yeah. It would be nice to see something if just for "research purposes". That said, I do feel the law is fair in saying people shouldn't be able to get music for free. I'm as guilty as the next man for hunting for unreleased stuff etc. but, as a musician myself, I think if I knew people were making money off my stuff without my consent.... I do understand it, but as you say, what's the harm in at least putting a list up here...? I'm certain mods don't allow too much discussion of stuff like this on here anyway, but if you were to do some googling I'm sure you'd find what you need. [Edited 2/24/10 10:48am] | |
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My personal opinion is that in this EXTREME digital age (when many cell phones have as much memory as what large MP3 players USED to hold) it's no longer a question of illegally selling unreleased or live material, it's an issue of whether or not the artist wants that material to be heard. In the past, bootlegs were expensive and often hard to find. Creators of professional bootlegs sometimes made large amounts of money selling illegal product. These days they're getting undercut just as much as the record labels by torrents and P2P file sharing. The classic "bootleg" doesn't hold much weight when you can download five concerts in one night. So the issue, in my mind, becomes whether or not the artist who is being bootlegged wants to go through the trouble of creating a website to sell the work digitally themselves. It's been proven that even small artists will get sales by doing so. Certainly, some of the people who pay for that material will immediately turn around and share those files (cause and affect?). But in the case of any established artist, if they were to put EVERYTHING up for sale - all their b-sides, demos, unreleased tracks and concerts (both audio and video) - they would create a constant revenue stream (of some size). They would at least be making money of off their own hard work instead of fully giving it away. I realize this is an old argument at this point. But as technology advances further and further it should be becoming much less of one, and it's not.
Anyway, apologies if I get your thread disappeared or something. In answer to your post, though; have you tried the Internet Archive? | |
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