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Thread started 01/06/08 8:12am

irishwolfhound

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WACKO JACKO 30 NIGHTS @ 02 ARENA

i might go check him out if this is true...was n the news of the world...

if prince thinks he own the 02 after 21 he might come back 2 beat jacksons record.
i reckon AEG have offered serious ££££ 4 jackson 2 do this n will make him millions.

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Reply #1 posted 01/06/08 12:35pm

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Reply #2 posted 01/06/08 6:26pm

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seeing as this was in a tabloid i wont believe it till its confirmed by something more official

if it is true i would definately check it out

but if Michael does 30 nights will Prince come back and beat him he could always do 31 nights lol
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Reply #3 posted 01/06/08 8:25pm

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b3xy said:

seeing as this was in a tabloid i wont believe it till its confirmed by something more official

if it is true i would definately check it out

but if Michael does 30 nights will Prince come back and beat him he could always do 31 nights lol


don't know about 30 nights but he is (apparently) at the O2 this year
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Reply #4 posted 01/07/08 5:14am

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...oh, I wonder where he got this idea from!!! The O2 will always be "Prince's House" from now on. As the great man said "I don't care whose been here before and I don't care who comes here after me, this is my house!!"

I'm caught in two minds about seeing Wacko. I was born in 1980, so as you can imagine he was a big musical influence on me growing up. And I love Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. It is tempting to see him Live, but I just know that I wouldn't be able to enjoy the show for all the allegations and weirdness. I'm not going to start a debate about whether they are true or not, but my own opinions about it really puts me off going....point of principal really.
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Reply #5 posted 01/07/08 10:11am

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DaveT said:

...oh, I wonder where he got this idea from!!! The O2 will always be "Prince's House" from now on. As the great man said "I don't care whose been here before and I don't care who comes here after me, this is my house!!"

I'm caught in two minds about seeing Wacko. I was born in 1980, so as you can imagine he was a big musical influence on me growing up. And I love Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. It is tempting to see him Live, but I just know that I wouldn't be able to enjoy the show for all the allegations and weirdness. I'm not going to start a debate about whether they are true or not, but my own opinions about it really puts me off going....point of principal really.


totally agree i love his music when he was at his peak but as a father of 2 kids i cannot support him as a point of principle, no matter how you dress it up there is no smoke without fire you don`t pay 11 million dollars out if there is nothing to hide
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Reply #6 posted 01/07/08 10:17am

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DaveT said:

...oh, I wonder where he got this idea from!!! The O2 will always be "Prince's House" from now on. As the great man said "I don't care whose been here before and I don't care who comes here after me, this is my house!!"

I'm caught in two minds about seeing Wacko. I was born in 1980, so as you can imagine he was a big musical influence on me growing up. And I love Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. It is tempting to see him Live, but I just know that I wouldn't be able to enjoy the show for all the allegations and weirdness. I'm not going to start a debate about whether they are true or not, but my own opinions about it really puts me off going....point of principal really.


I agree with you there, and I also think he'd be pretty crap nowadays to be honest (just my opinion). I can't see him being able to do 3 nights let alone 30! lol
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Reply #7 posted 01/08/08 3:23pm

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must be true if it was in the News Of The World
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Reply #8 posted 01/09/08 12:09pm

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It's gonna happen this year, but I can't see how he can match/top his live performances in the 80's and 90's.

I hope he sticks to the old songs - that's what the fans will want to hear. Take a leaf out of Prince's book
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Reply #9 posted 01/09/08 12:22pm

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tiadalma said:

It's gonna happen this year, but I can't see how he can match/top his live performances in the 80's and 90's.

I hope he sticks to the old songs - that's what the fans will want to hear. Take a leaf out of Prince's book


What new songs has he got ???

It will be interesting to see how Jackson copes, judging by Prince's O2 performances, he was fairly static at his age, at least Prince can pick up a guitar or go on a keyboard, Jackson was all about his dancing/image in the live shows, I can't see him doing 2 hours of that now, I bet he'll end up with a troupe of about 30 young street dancers around him while he hides in the centre .... he'll love that !!!!

At the end of the day, I can see him doing this, his albums wouldn't sell now, O2/AEG will guarantee him a fortune that he needs for playing lots of nights, if it go's well, he'll be off to Vegas straight after ...
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Reply #10 posted 01/09/08 2:42pm

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ecnirp98 said:

tiadalma said:

It's gonna happen this year, but I can't see how he can match/top his live performances in the 80's and 90's.

I hope he sticks to the old songs - that's what the fans will want to hear. Take a leaf out of Prince's book


What new songs has he got ???

It will be interesting to see how Jackson copes, judging by Prince's O2 performances, he was fairly static at his age, at least Prince can pick up a guitar or go on a keyboard, Jackson was all about his dancing/image in the live shows, I can't see him doing 2 hours of that now, I bet he'll end up with a troupe of about 30 young street dancers around him while he hides in the centre .... he'll love that !!!!

At the end of the day, I can see him doing this, his albums wouldn't sell now, O2/AEG will guarantee him a fortune that he needs for playing lots of nights, if it go's well, he'll be off to Vegas straight after ...
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i think his albums will sell fine even his number ones sold over 6.5million copies and that was a hits album with one new song and was released about the same time as the alligations came out (week before if i remeber correctly) he may not be particularly popular in the USA but he has a massive fan base in Europe and Asia

the snide comments about him being in the middle of a group of 30 young street dancers is pathetic shame really cos your post was actually quite intresting before that point

also it is well known that albums arent selling the way they used to so artists have to do live performances as well
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Reply #11 posted 01/09/08 3:48pm

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b3xy said:

ecnirp98 said:



What new songs has he got ???

It will be interesting to see how Jackson copes, judging by Prince's O2 performances, he was fairly static at his age, at least Prince can pick up a guitar or go on a keyboard, Jackson was all about his dancing/image in the live shows, I can't see him doing 2 hours of that now, I bet he'll end up with a troupe of about 30 young street dancers around him while he hides in the centre .... he'll love that !!!!

At the end of the day, I can see him doing this, his albums wouldn't sell now, O2/AEG will guarantee him a fortune that he needs for playing lots of nights, if it go's well, he'll be off to Vegas straight after ...
[Edited 1/9/08 12:23pm]


i think his albums will sell fine even his number ones sold over 6.5million copies and that was a hits album with one new song and was released about the same time as the alligations came out (week before if i remeber correctly) he may not be particularly popular in the USA but he has a massive fan base in Europe and Asia

the snide comments about him being in the middle of a group of 30 young street dancers is pathetic shame really cos your post was actually quite intresting before that point

also it is well known that albums arent selling the way they used to so artists have to do live performances as well


If Jackson tours he will surround himself with lots of younger street dancers, whatever the current trend is, so probably the building leapers that Madonna used, Jackson has always been very adept at stealing and incorporating the latest stuff, all the break dancing/moonwalking stuff was ripped off from other artists/street performers that Jackson had seen, nothing wrong with that, just now when Jackson is surrounded by a load of young dancers (he's 50 this year) it will bring lots on conotations and inuendo, at the end of the day he has brought this on himself, I'm not going to get into an argument over what he did/didn't do, no one knows for sure, the only thing I will say is that he admitted to enough 'odd' things in the presence of minors that he deserves the reaction/treatment he recieves now.

As for albums, I agree they are not selling well anymore, Jackson's hits back catalogue has been raided and milked several times already, so he cannot pull that trick anymore, so he either go's and records a killer album like off the wall/thriller again - about as likely as Prince recording an album as successful as Purple Rain, the way artists are making the big money now is to tour/merchandise, like Prince did at the O2, but Jacksons act/show was always based on the dancing/image, the image has been shot to pieces now and he won't be able to move like he used to, similar to what we saw from Prince, so it will be interesting to see what sort of show he would put on, I for one wouldn't go as I wouldn't want to give him a penny, but thats my choice.
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Reply #12 posted 01/10/08 8:40am

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thats true....prince cant dance like he did 20 years ago....there was talk he had his hip replaced n recent years although he did dance well at a few of the shows i was at....prince is a better artist live then 99% of per4mers n always will b.
i miss the shows of 2007...i had a few bad Xperiences with the VIP n the aftershows but i managed 2 resolve all that n the end.

WOLFY razz

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Reply #13 posted 01/10/08 9:47am

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i had a few bad Xperiences with the VIP n the aftershows but i managed 2 resolve all that n the end


Really...you must tell us about them sometime!

And that is relevant to Prince's performance..how?

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Reply #14 posted 01/10/08 10:25am

ritaw

irishwolfhound said:

thats true....prince cant dance like he did 20 years ago....there was talk he had his hip replaced n recent years although he did dance well at a few of the shows i was at....prince is a better artist live then 99% of per4mers n always will b.
i miss the shows of 2007...[b]i had a few bad Xperiences with the VIP n the aftershows
but i managed 2 resolve all that n the end.

WOLFY razz [/b]

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yes we noticed
"C'mon y'all - let me hear you sing, c'mon y'all, shake, c'mon y'all, jump" - Yes Prince -
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Reply #15 posted 01/10/08 10:28am

ritaw

DaveT said:

...oh, I wonder where he got this idea from!!! The O2 will always be "Prince's House" from now on. As the great man said "I don't care whose been here before and I don't care who comes here after me, this is my house!!"

I'm caught in two minds about seeing Wacko. I was born in 1980, so as you can imagine he was a big musical influence on me growing up. And I love Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. It is tempting to see him Live, but I just know that I wouldn't be able to enjoy the show for all the allegations and weirdness. I'm not going to start a debate about whether they are true or not, but my own opinions about it really puts me off going....point of principal really.


yes well at the moment it is the spice girls house and unbelievably eveyrone i know who has been (mostly not fans) have said how much they have enjoyed - frankly i'm amazed but will see for myself next week
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Reply #16 posted 01/11/08 4:17am

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IF this is true by what they said £30 million is on the table for him to do it.

That is a million per gig and £50 per ticket just to break even on his fee. That means they'd probably charge £100 for the cheapest ticket. I VERY much doubt he could sell out 30 gigs at prices like that.

Plus i think he would probably end up cancelling half if not more of the shows due to crap ticket sales and/or illness. Jackson hasnt got the stamina and health of Prince to do all those gigs.

Jackson also cant possibly due 2 or more hours on stage he'd be fucked. Thus pissing off anyone whose bought a ticket. He'd no doubt have 2 warm up acts on to pad it out a bit.

I think he could well ruin whats left of his career doing this. - Lets hope so biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 01/11/08 9:36am

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honer said:

IF this is true by what they said £30 million is on the table for him to do it.

That is a million per gig and £50 per ticket just to break even on his fee. That means they'd probably charge £100 for the cheapest ticket. I VERY much doubt he could sell out 30 gigs at prices like that.

Plus i think he would probably end up cancelling half if not more of the shows due to crap ticket sales and/or illness. Jackson hasnt got the stamina and health of Prince to do all those gigs.

Jackson also cant possibly due 2 or more hours on stage he'd be fucked. Thus pissing off anyone whose bought a ticket. He'd no doubt have 2 warm up acts on to pad it out a bit.

I think he could well ruin whats left of his career doing this. - Lets hope so biggrin


here here....we all know wacko jacko is all washed up but his concerts r legendary like prince....i would go 4 2 shows at the 02 over a weekend.

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Reply #18 posted 01/11/08 1:58pm

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I think u would be all disapointed.
Just like seeing the Spice Girls at the o2.He was talented back in the day but (not saying the Spice Girls where ever talented, load of old dog shit)
its not as if your going to listen to how funky his band might be its just about him maybe doing the moonwalk and singing his little white glove off!!!
But he is fat and dosen't look cool anymore and can't sing for shit!
He is not going to pull a bass out and start slapping it about or get down and funky on the keybourd he has had it and he will never get it back!!
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Reply #19 posted 01/11/08 10:12pm

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^^^ first time i have ever heard anyone describe michael as fat lol
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b3xy said:

^^^ first time i have ever heard anyone describe michael as fat lol


heh heh....guess he is piggin out on big macs with the kiddies....lol
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Reply #21 posted 01/13/08 1:42pm

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irishwolfhound said:

b3xy said:

^^^ first time i have ever heard anyone describe michael as fat lol


heh heh....guess he is piggin out on big macs with the kiddies....lol

Maybe he dresses up like the McCdonalds clowm ....the big mac Jackson meal with free toy for the kids to play with!!
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Reply #22 posted 01/14/08 12:36am

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Cool! I hope he does this.

And btw, before making judgments about someone you do not know, do the research about the allegations -- read the appropriate court documents from '05 and the leaked documents from the '93 incident. Sure, it all looks suspicious, but when one reads the documents, Michael Jackson appears like a damaged man but not a pedophile.
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Reply #23 posted 01/14/08 6:59am

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30 shows, because there will be no aftershows.
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Reply #24 posted 01/16/08 4:27pm

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purpleparty3000 said:

I think u would be all disapointed.
Just like seeing the Spice Girls at the o2.He was talented back in the day but (not saying the Spice Girls where ever talented, load of old dog shit)
its not as if your going to listen to how funky his band might be its just about him maybe doing the moonwalk and singing his little white glove off!!!
But he is fat and dosen't look cool anymore and can't sing for shit!
He is not going to pull a bass out and start slapping it about or get down and funky on the keybourd he has had it and he will never get it back!!


I can confirm Spice girls not funky - best thing were the male dancers - lots of noise, good atmosphere - entertaining = that's about it - good job it was a work thing
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Reply #25 posted 01/17/08 2:45am

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honer said:

IF this is true by what they said £30 million is on the table for him to do it.

That is a million per gig and £50 per ticket just to break even on his fee. That means they'd probably charge £100 for the cheapest ticket. I VERY much doubt he could sell out 30 gigs at prices like that.



I think I read recently that the Bigger Bang Rolling Stones WORLD TOUR netted them 46 Million, so I doubt very much whether Jacko could generate 30 million off one run of shows, even if it were this apparently fictitious 30-night run.

I imagine there's a grain of truth - ie. Jacko IS playing the O2 - but I bet the rest is just the usual News of the World nonsense. I mean, The Jam slated that newspaper in their song of the same name way back in, what, 1978 or something? Shows how bad that rag has been for so long.
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