Some of you people really are hilarious. Hilariously flawed in your arguments and commentary.

If you read your own previous posts, you will find that you suggested that Prince was influenced by Larry Graham. In response to this, myself and others have contended that this ALLEGED influence (if we are to accept it) can only have produced a positive effect. This can be seen in Prince's openess.

I saw the man up-close only 4 days ago and I can attest to his obvious sense of happiness. He appeared very relaxed and his sense of humour really came through. This humour did not only emerge in front of a 'small group of NPGMC members' (there were up to 18 rows in London anyway) but to a venue full of over 3,700 people when he did his Ozzy Osbourne impression and his 'sleazy dance', to name but a few.
[This message was edited Thu Oct 10 12:28:56 PDT 2002 by Mr7]

Annemarie said:

DITTO.

javed said:[quote]isn't Larrys influence partly responsible for Princes new openess and approachability with us.

very interesting take on the situation...never thought about it this way.

XxAxX said:

ROFLMAO amen, sister!

LadyCabDriver said:[quote]XxAxX said:[not only are we mistaken, but in fact it's a GOOD thing larry is around to teach prince to mistake a RIFF for a SONG and jam on it endlessly.

I've never heard Prince 'mistake a riff for a song and jam on it endlessly'.

But hey, the truth doesn't actually matter does it?

All that matters is BS and conjecture.

All that matters is colouring events so they meet with your own biased perspective.

Prince does not exist for our amusement.

He does not and should not be forced into conforming to a stereotype other people have created.

Erendira said:

Well of course he's looking for certain people's approval. You don't release records and tour without wanting some approval of your music. When people travel and pay to see him over and over again that spells approval. If you play a gig as a musician you want your audience to approve of your performance. Everybody wants to be appreciated, no matter what they do for a living.

Come on guys!!! What is this fuss all about?

How can you decide that a man is pretending to be happy!!! He gave good times to epople who saw his last shows and a true feeling can be felt by others only if it is real!!! Prince never faked his emotions!!! He always was loyal to his fans. The man has grown he is more opened, period!!! You feel this in TRC album!

Now really, that is his life... Leave the man alone! He treats us with performances and I still hear useless debate about useless issues. Like I alredy said, get a life and let the man breathe, do not format him the way you'd like him to be...

Anybody in agreement with me?

Mr7 said:
[/quote] I've never heard Prince 'mistake a riff for a song and jam on it endlessly'.
But hey, the truth doesn't actually matter does it?
All that matters is BS and conjecture.
All that matters is colouring events so they meet with your own biased perspective.
Prince does not exist for our amusement.
He does not and should not be forced into conforming to a stereotype other people have created.[/quote]


okay here are the reasons for my "biased perspective" and the grounds for my "conjecture":

larry has and does the 'riff' thing frequently. listen to GCS2000. memorizable after ONE go round.

TRC does NOT sound like the work of a happy man. the lyrics are downright offensive in places. 'banished ones!?' imo TRC sounds like the work of a very angry man.

notwithstanding illegal distribution of his work, prince suing fansites does NOT seem like the action of a happy man. it seems like the action of a very vengeful and vindictive man.

the NPGMC is NOT well run and organized. it is lacking even the basics to satisfy its fundamental business purpose.

it's NOT cool that NPGMC members get religious emails instead of product updates they've been requesting from the club.

so, all thing considered, i really couldn't say that prince's friends (read: LG) these days are influencing him positively. a true friend would help him address these issues, for his own good.

these are my observations. this is the basis for my conjecture. at this rate prince will not have a business to come home to.

and, if that's his choice that's his choice. but imo it's a damn shame things have worked out this way.

Not agree with Xax !!! Actualy as a member i have never received only religious mails... Far from that iand I think that the NPGMC thing will improve... it is only two years old! let time do the things... TRC is not negative, yes things may annoy him but he is happy to play with us anyway he said in london that whether you believe or not in Gods that was fine for him... He talks to us through this tour once again he has a message!!! And heard that prince said the F word on several occasions in london!!!
So... He is also tired that the media perceive him as a strange guy...

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Melody said:

HEY SENSUAL MELODY - DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT ORG NOTE ME AGAIN

i won't be wasting my time reading whatever you sent

Really the royal badness ceased to exist with Purple Rain/ATWIAD...

Those who think prince is only sex and dirty mind didn't get the point. lovesexy: the work of a bad boy? Don't think so...

He tries to get approval from us? Maybe buit like he always did: he tries to please us and truly cares about the fans not to disappoint them...

klaatu said:

Here are a few times when he probably "faked" his emotions: Oprah show, Rosie show, etc. You know why. Loyalty to fans is not in the same line as emotional status. TRC is not an album that I feel happiness from. It is dark and it is eery.

SensualMelody said:

He expects the best of best with his performances, but with all the rather "radical-compared-to-yesteryears" changes that have taken place in his life over the past few years, it does seem probable that he is looking for approval from others. It doesn't sound like "crap" to me. Not only has he changed his outward persona, but even the lyrics to his songs. He knows that most of his fans don't care for the changes since most have been buying and listening to his music all along, explicit or not. Why the change? Why does/did he seem to "loosen up" when Larry is/was not in attendance? Coincidence? Why "The Cross" to "The Christ"? He used to approve to the latter for years, just as most fans did. So whose approval was looked for to make that particular change occur? His personal work has had to be edited. Is he really the "master" of his own work now?

BeautifuliStrange said:

when i said he never faked his feelings i was talking about the ones he shows to the fans... There is hope in TRC... It is not that dark... It is more like a promise... Don't you think? It is not the Black Album...

Larry Graham could be at the Watchtower BUILDING in Brooklyn
or on a country wide tour so everyone can feel his Bass .
or maybe he'swashing his White suit in Lake Minnetonka whlie tina looks on .