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Thread started 09/30/07 7:11am

irishwolfhound

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FREE SIGN O THE TIMES DVD 2DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FAMS OF THE UK AND IRELAND.....GET THE OBSERVER NEWSPAPER 2DAY N U WILL FIND A FUNKY SURPRISE NSIDE UR PAPER....

SIGN O THE TIMES....DIGITALLY REMASTERED FROM THE VHS RECORDING 2 DVD!!!!!

GET UR COPY NOW B4 THERE ALL GONE...

WOLFY razz
Welcome 2 wolfys lair!! Make love not war!!!


3121 IRELAND...U CAN COME IF U WANT 2 BUT U CAN NEVER LEAVE!!

OOOOOOH FUNKY IRELAND
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/07 7:12am

pro

There are no chapters on this Free DVD rolleyes
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Reply #2 posted 09/30/07 7:14am

irishwolfhound

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pro said:

There are no chapters on this Free DVD rolleyes



well im in the republic of ireland and there R chapters on my edition...so dont know....its region 2....might b ur DVD player thats wrong.

WOLFY razz
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3121 IRELAND...U CAN COME IF U WANT 2 BUT U CAN NEVER LEAVE!!

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Reply #3 posted 09/30/07 7:34am

astrok

Just playing my copy from the paper and there are no chapter points. I've looked at the DVD structure and it would appear they messed up when they added "The Observer" to the title page. Still, it works other than that smile
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/07 8:09am

andrubuntu

astrok said:

Just playing my copy from the paper and there are no chapter points. I've looked at the DVD structure and it would appear they messed up when they added "The Observer" to the title page. Still, it works other than that smile


They often do that sort of thing when they give away DVD's with newspapers here. It is 100% deliberate on their part.
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Reply #5 posted 09/30/07 8:13am

carax

surely everyone here owns this already
people cant be getting it again for the sake of it
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Reply #6 posted 09/30/07 9:19am

GC79

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It sounds much better than the DVD I bought in the shops!
Shopping is not a sport!
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Reply #7 posted 09/30/07 9:43am

endorphinuk

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Got mine and watched it already! Over headphones... on laptop... as g/f was watchin' grand prix!
It seems to have 1 long chapter.
HE put my name across my thigh...
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Reply #8 posted 09/30/07 9:48am

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Reply #9 posted 09/30/07 9:51am

phurple

I agree GC79 I was just goin to post what you said!

I got a DVD a few months back and it was no better than the VHS I have had since it came out.

This one sounds and looks loads better.

Sadly no chapters on the DVD but fans from many years ago have had this before when the 1 song, id'less 'Losexy' CD came out in 88!
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Reply #10 posted 09/30/07 10:04am

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GC79 said:

It sounds much better than the DVD I bought in the shops!


Spot on! It's as good as the Canadian version in 5.1DD.
I'm hot and I don't care who knows it...I got a job to do. cooked
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Reply #11 posted 09/30/07 10:11am

JazzMeUp

Would someone please click on pro's profile and if there's nothing wrong with it, I need to see an eye doctor now! eek
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Reply #12 posted 09/30/07 10:30am

geo4you

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Would someone please click on pro's profile and if there's nothing wrong with it, I need to see an eye doctor now! eek


eek eek eek What' happening on Pro's profile? Like there's a party going on there!?
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Reply #13 posted 09/30/07 10:35am

JazzMeUp

geo4you said:

JazzMeUp said:

Would someone please click on pro's profile and if there's nothing wrong with it, I need to see an eye doctor now! eek


eek eek eek What' happening on Pro's profile? Like there's a party going on there!?


Phew! So glad it's not my eyes!

Very strange though...
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Reply #14 posted 09/30/07 10:36am

royalbadness

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JazzMeUp said:

Would someone please click on pro's profile and if there's nothing wrong with it, I need to see an eye doctor now! eek

Pro's profile eek eek eek omg I'm blind eek
Always cry 4 love never cry 4 pain
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Reply #15 posted 09/30/07 10:39am

JazzMeUp

geo4you said:


eek eek eek What' happening on Pro's profile? Like there's a party going on there!?


It's more like a rave...

rainbow 'ave'it!
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Reply #16 posted 09/30/07 10:59am

SunsetDriver

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got mine today!!
while we keep our eyes, not on the things seen, but on the things unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are everlasting. - 2 Corinthians 4:28
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Reply #17 posted 09/30/07 11:15am

glyn

5.1, remastered, widescreen..

looks and sounds great on my video projector...


lack of chapter stops isn't a problem..

it's not like i would leave the concert to pee anyway.


GO OBSERVER!
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Reply #18 posted 09/30/07 11:27am

DoMeBaby69

I got mine today! The reason I got it is because I had it on video only, not DVD.
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Reply #19 posted 09/30/07 11:44am

royalbadness

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DoMeBaby69 said:

I got mine today! The reason I got it is because I had it on video only, not DVD.

Ditto, gonna watch it later 2nite, perfect end to the weekend!!
Always cry 4 love never cry 4 pain
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Reply #20 posted 09/30/07 12:39pm

Hubster

royalbadness said:

DoMeBaby69 said:

I got mine today! The reason I got it is because I had it on video only, not DVD.

Ditto, gonna watch it later 2nite, perfect end to the weekend!!






Just watched it. Almost, almost forgot how hot Cat was. I believe this justifies the one-man poster campaign I had in my room, in her honour, in the late 80's.

Wonder what's she's doing now, maybe she'd like to pop round for tea cool
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I gotta Phd in advanced body movement.....
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Reply #21 posted 09/30/07 12:52pm

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was great watching that in DVD quality, brought back memories of seeing it at that cinema at the end of O'Connell street in dublin in 1988. lol
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #22 posted 09/30/07 1:19pm

irishwolfhound

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Whitnail said:

was great watching that in DVD quality, brought back memories of seeing it at that cinema at the end of O'Connell street in dublin in 1988. lol


prince always loved ireland razz///wolfy remembers leaving spirit nightclub at 6am after the aftershow in 2002 and walkin down o connell st 2 get breakfast....lol....that was 1 hell of a night....abbey st is just beside o connell st.....DUBLIN ROCKS....

WOLFY razz

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Welcome 2 wolfys lair!! Make love not war!!!


3121 IRELAND...U CAN COME IF U WANT 2 BUT U CAN NEVER LEAVE!!

OOOOOOH FUNKY IRELAND
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Reply #23 posted 09/30/07 2:57pm

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OMFG I can't believe I haven't seen this before, it's amazing.

Prince is sooooo hot, more evidence of the no pants situation as well
love

He had a naughty face then and he still does now lol
oh mama I wish I could resist ...
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Reply #24 posted 09/30/07 2:58pm

Whatitis

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No chapters and runs 4% too fast - what a shame!

Everyone needs the Canadian NTSC DVD edition to get the great picture quality with the correct speed (and chapters!).

The main problem isn't really that the audio is about a semi-tone too high but that the songs run too fast - so, "Slow Love" sounds more like "A Quickie".....

Seriously - if you've ever seen the film running at the correct speed you'll know that this sped up PAL DVD looses a lot of the feel of the original performances.
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Reply #25 posted 09/30/07 3:08pm

james

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Whatitis said:

No chapters and runs 4% too fast - what a shame!

Everyone needs the Canadian NTSC DVD edition to get the great picture quality with the correct speed (and chapters!).

The main problem isn't really that the audio is about a semi-tone too high but that the songs run too fast - so, "Slow Love" sounds more like "A Quickie".....

Seriously - if you've ever seen the film running at the correct speed you'll know that this sped up PAL DVD looses a lot of the feel of the original performances.
[Edited 9/30/07 15:01pm]


I've never quite understood this, as it was shot on film (24fps) which is a closer speed to PAL than NTSC. It should be that the NTSC is slow, not the PAL being too fast. ???
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Reply #26 posted 09/30/07 3:32pm

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james said:

I've never quite understood this, as it was shot on film (24fps) which is a closer speed to PAL than NTSC. It should be that the NTSC is slow, not the PAL being too fast. ???


What they do is this:

Film runs at 24 frames per second (fps)

PAL works on a 50Hz system - effectively running at 25fps

This is so close to 24fps that to transfer film to PAL DVD they just copy each frame in sequence. So, you get 25 film frames in a second instead of 24 - ie the film is running slightly fast. This speed up shifts the audio pitch up roughly one semi-tone and actually quite noticably speeds up musical performances. For a movie it isn't that much of a problem as dialogue isn't so reliant on the tempo being perfect - but for music it can ruin the feel of a number if the speed is off slightly.

For NTSC (used in North America and Japan) it's a different story. NTSC is based on a 60 Hz system and runs at roughly 30fps (29.97fps to be precise). So, they can't just transfer a film frame for frame as the considerable speed up going from 24fps to 30fps would make everything look and sound ridiculous. Instead they use a method called 3:2 pulldown which results in almost perfect speed compared with the original film. The image is slightly less stable than PAL but for music films I much prefer that the speed is correct.

Remember - all this only applies to things shot on film (such as SOTT) - things shot on video (like the videos on "Prince - The Hits Collection") will run at the correct speed whichever system is used.

So, for SOTT - get youself the Canadian NTSC version on DVD (available from www.amazon.ca) to hear the music as it was intended.

smile
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Reply #27 posted 09/30/07 4:13pm

cloudguitar

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Whatitis said:

james said:

I've never quite understood this, as it was shot on film (24fps) which is a closer speed to PAL than NTSC. It should be that the NTSC is slow, not the PAL being too fast. ???


What they do is this:

Film runs at 24 frames per second (fps)

PAL works on a 50Hz system - effectively running at 25fps

This is so close to 24fps that to transfer film to PAL DVD they just copy each frame in sequence. So, you get 25 film frames in a second instead of 24 - ie the film is running slightly fast. This speed up shifts the audio pitch up roughly one semi-tone and actually quite noticably speeds up musical performances. For a movie it isn't that much of a problem as dialogue isn't so reliant on the tempo being perfect - but for music it can ruin the feel of a number if the speed is off slightly.

For NTSC (used in North America and Japan) it's a different story. NTSC is based on a 60 Hz system and runs at roughly 30fps (29.97fps to be precise). So, they can't just transfer a film frame for frame as the considerable speed up going from 24fps to 30fps would make everything look and sound ridiculous. Instead they use a method called 3:2 pulldown which results in almost perfect speed compared with the original film. The image is slightly less stable than PAL but for music films I much prefer that the speed is correct.

Remember - all this only applies to things shot on film (such as SOTT) - things shot on video (like the videos on "Prince - The Hits Collection") will run at the correct speed whichever system is used.

So, for SOTT - get youself the Canadian NTSC version on DVD (available from www.amazon.ca) to hear the music as it was intended.

smile
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I'd actually never noticed this on the sign of the times concert, will check it out later

but certainly i'd noticed it on purple rain...on the album the trakcs in Bb major...on the video it's in B major...didn't realise it was a 'pal problem'...i thought they'd just sped it up to make the film shorter!
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Reply #28 posted 10/01/07 12:00am

tiadalma

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carax said:

surely everyone here owns this already
people cant be getting it again for the sake of it



I've had this DVD for years, but still found my self at the newsagents eraly Sunday morning to get another copy!
so, what is the answer 2 the question of U
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Reply #29 posted 10/01/07 1:10am

motr

Forgot how poor this concert film was. Dreadful apart from the amazing 'The Cross'.
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