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Reply #30 posted 09/26/07 4:31pm

TheEnglishGent

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He can't love us that much. It's the first time he's done shows here in 5 years and it's likely to be longer again until he's back. sad
RIP sad
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Reply #31 posted 09/26/07 4:39pm

m3taverse

I don't know that Prince does in fact prefer to play in Europe, as the topic states.
I do know that for an important phase in his career (second half of the 80s), it was the only place he could fill venues and develop further as a performer.
The US never understood all that Avant Gardistic stuff, preferring quasi machismo bands like Def Leppard over the "gayish" persona Prince was projecting.
The earlier mentioned Lovesexy tour is possibly Prince's creative peak as a performer, and an excellent illustration of how different trends were in the US and Europe at that time. Prince had to put on extra shows in Europe while being unable to sell out a single show in the US.

But I don't feel there is a "special" relationship in this context. I've always thought that Prince is forever searching for a new audience, for fresh ears. I feel he enjoys playing for different types of audiences, and that he gets energy from a crowd that responds in for Prince undiscovered ways. This might be what makes touring Europe kinda fun... we know that an Italian crowd is very different from a German crowd is very different from a Dutch crowd is very different from a French crowd. And Prince, searching for a connection with his audience, responds to whatever the crowd is feeding him. The end result might be what Anji calls "monumental performances".
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #32 posted 09/26/07 4:39pm

Pajoe

irishwolfhound said:

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lovealotbare said:

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[b:2f5296a432]"hmmm mayb he just likes europe?"[/b:2f5296a432]

i say this with affectionate tease. tease ...
It recalls a time around the Musicology tour and i went in2 a chat room on the Org or npgmc and just casually asked if any1 had info on if/when P may come 2 the UK and i got jumped on by 2-5 people going on about the fact "he" hates UK, we r all boring stuck ups. etc... stab brick headache

I was sooo shocked by Prince fans being so, that i logged off.( Jeez all i wanted to know is if any1 had heard any news! wall )

The point is they were wrong of course, No 1 but prince knows why he goes where!
There is no "he hates UK europe or the states or japan or holland, or he loves paris stockholm or greenland!" or any reasons known,

even though I can understand why he may love paris, as a place ....heart


We just all have 2 wait our turn and enjoy it.... USA was last year with Vegas...
Oz and japan and others r still waiting....(i'm sure he'll get there)

its a bit when u have a load of friends in different areas....
its difficult to try n c them all in one day so u try get a few of them at a time on different days in an easily located central place....

and u wait n meet up when the day comes wherby the location is nearest to u OR u can either go to a far off located meeting (as many have, n do) or just wait (as most of us do ... lol ). I have friends all over the place! lol

The O2 arena and aftershow was full of different types of people from all over the globe.... i alone met people from Italy, Spain, Amsterdam, France, Japan, Sweeden, Norway AND USA.... all came over especially! bow

And so there is no real answer (apart an answer from prince( 2 ur question.....
good luck searching for it! :lol;

and btw i'm so scarred from the chatroom experience, i've never been on a chatroom since! so i totally understand why u wrote please b respectful!!!! boxed

flower rainbo fish mods... please make a starfish! and some more flags..... u gota recognise all the countries u know! lol[/quote:2f5296a432]

[color=blue:2f5296a432][b:2f5296a432]dont 4get the UK's nearest neighbour....IRELAND....lol...we were over there in london in our droves as i met many a good irish fam n we all want him back n the emerald isle real soon....

WOLFY razz
Well Wolfy as all us Irish orgers remember in 1995 (Slave Gig) Prince did say 2 us "Ireland, If U Ever Want Me 2 Play 4 U cool U Just Let Me Know"..... Prince u did answer our call in 2002 (ONA Tour) But We Want U In Our Emerald Isle Now !!!!! lol if only biggrin
[Edited 9/26/07 16:52pm]
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Reply #33 posted 09/26/07 4:42pm

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...except that, over the last seven years, he's spent more time touring in the states. If anything, ironically (but appropriately), prince has become a real american icon.

I think previously, he spent more time in Europe, because he was shunned in America. Now thats not the case (be it because he's more wholesome minus the swearing & w/ the bible thumping, the last of the funk legends, simply the greatest live performer ever), he feels he can confidently tour there again. And where does he make the most TV appearances...?
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Reply #34 posted 09/26/07 4:46pm

m3taverse

BlackCandle said:

...except that, over the last seven years, he's spent more time touring in the states. If anything, ironically (but appropriately), prince has become a real american icon.

I think previously, he spent more time in Europe, because he was shunned in America. Now thats not the case (be it because he's more wholesome minus the swearing & w/ the bible thumping, the last of the funk legends, simply the greatest live performer ever), he feels he can confidently tour there again. And where does he make the most TV appearances...?


Obviously he only makes TV appearances when he needs to. If Prince can fill up your venue, you will not see him on your TV. If he has trouble doing it, he will be.
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Reply #35 posted 09/26/07 4:47pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

He can't love us that much. It's the first time he's done shows here in 5 years and it's likely to be longer again until he's back. sad


Which is why I think this time I might have to follow him to a few places (not Moscow, too cold/corrupt). Who's gonna join me?
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Reply #36 posted 09/26/07 4:49pm

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m3taverse said:

BlackCandle said:

...except that, over the last seven years, he's spent more time touring in the states. If anything, ironically (but appropriately), prince has become a real american icon.

I think previously, he spent more time in Europe, because he was shunned in America. Now thats not the case (be it because he's more wholesome minus the swearing & w/ the bible thumping, the last of the funk legends, simply the greatest live performer ever), he feels he can confidently tour there again. And where does he make the most TV appearances...?


Obviously he only makes TV appearances when he needs to. If Prince can fill up your venue, you will not see him on your TV. If he has trouble doing it, he will be.


Really. I don't think thats why he showed "I feel for You" & "Controversy" on Sky News, is it?
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Reply #37 posted 09/26/07 5:01pm

m3taverse

BlackCandle said:

m3taverse said:



Obviously he only makes TV appearances when he needs to. If Prince can fill up your venue, you will not see him on your TV. If he has trouble doing it, he will be.


Really. I don't think thats why he showed "I feel for You" & "Controversy" on Sky News, is it?


Indeed it wasn't.
I had the slew of TV appearances in the US in mind leading up to and during the Musicology tour, the Vegas thing, CD promotion on Lenno and other late night shows etc.
But you are right, besides promotional efforts, there are other types of TV appearances as well. There's the award/honorary performace type, and it's not the first time Prince has aired live footage at the end of a tour.
But still those are quite rare compared to the promotional appearances in recent years, so when you said "most TV", that's what I thought of.
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Reply #38 posted 09/26/07 5:04pm

4bjb

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perhaps because London is the best city in the world,


And who said that! I might add there are a whole lot of "best" cities in the world.
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Reply #39 posted 09/26/07 5:06pm

4bjb

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The well-documented reason why Europe has done much better than the USA for live appearances - certainly since the late 80s - is down to the massive losses Prince incurred on the Lovesexy tour. He was badly burned during that one.

Still, all seems to have been forgiven since the Musicology tour. And let's face it, USA just got a residence before the UK did (albeit it's easier for Brits to get to London than many Americans to get to Vegas).


I disagree.
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Reply #40 posted 09/26/07 5:08pm

4bjb

sumtymes said:

throughout history

parts of europe has embraced

american artists of color

even when america has not

i'm sure prince has much love

4 the red white and blue of his

mother country but as an international

artist he has not limited himself


onelove


thank u...very well said.
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Reply #41 posted 09/26/07 5:13pm

4bjb

HotPaisleyGirl said:

He loves marmite and PG tips


Pls explain what marmite and PG tips are.
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Reply #42 posted 09/26/07 5:13pm

BlackCandle

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McD said:

The well-documented reason why Europe has done much better than the USA for live appearances - certainly since the late 80s - is down to the massive losses Prince incurred on the Lovesexy tour. He was badly burned during that one.

Still, all seems to have been forgiven since the Musicology tour. And let's face it, USA just got a residence before the UK did (albeit it's easier for Brits to get to London than many Americans to get to Vegas).


Alot of that came down to wasting money on expensive sets (which the Lovesexy stage was). Ditto the million-dollar albatross that was the Gold-Experience set.

Prince has learned to keep it simple, keep it in one place.
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Reply #43 posted 09/26/07 5:22pm

4bjb

Ellie said:

skywalker said:



Well, you are a bit mistaken. I live in Minneapolis and would argue that more monumental Prince performances have taken place here in this city than anywhere else in the rest of the world.
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I'm love to go to a Minneapolis show. I think most artists tend to have their best shows in their hometowns though.


In agreement,I went to the show on 7/7/7 and Prince put on a phenomenal performance. If I'm not mistaken he song about 5 or 6 songs from Planet Earth and it had not been released yet. So what does that tell u about his love for the U.S.A but especially Minneapolis.
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Reply #44 posted 09/26/07 6:16pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

He can't love us that much. It's the first time he's done shows here in 5 years and it's likely to be longer again until he's back. sad


i can not belive u just said that. eek how do u think fans in Aussie feel? how about japan? how about canada? U just had 21 nites in london and now y'all r gonna start bitching about when he will return? give me a break!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #45 posted 09/26/07 6:19pm

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m3taverse said:

Prince had to put on extra shows in Europe while being unable to sell out a single show in the US.



get ur facts straight ..NY, Chicago and LA all sold out in record times. In fact in NY he had 2 book another night in Nassau 2 fill the need.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #46 posted 09/26/07 6:24pm

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4bjb said:

Ellie said:


I'm love to go to a Minneapolis show. I think most artists tend to have their best shows in their hometowns though.


In agreement,I went to the show on 7/7/7 and Prince put on a phenomenal performance. If I'm not mistaken he song about 5 or 6 songs from Planet Earth and it had not been released yet. So what does that tell u about his love for the U.S.A but especially Minneapolis.


he only did 2 songs from planet earth
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #47 posted 09/26/07 7:21pm

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I do think that he feels more appreciated in Europe, they say lots of American acts are loved more there than at home.
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Reply #48 posted 09/26/07 11:46pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

TheEnglishGent said:

He can't love us that much. It's the first time he's done shows here in 5 years and it's likely to be longer again until he's back. sad


i can not belive u just said that. eek how do u think fans in Aussie feel? how about japan? how about canada? U just had 21 nites in london and now y'all r gonna start bitching about when he will return? give me a break!

I was hardly bitching, just stating a fact. I know how lucky we've been, I've just had a fantastic summer and didn't want it to end. I was just addressing the fact that he doesn't prefer the UK to the US and pointing out how long it has been and is likely to be. He said at the press conference announcing these shows that he wouldn't be back for a while afterwards.

Of all the people to reply like this, I didn't expect it to be you. Considering all the moaning you did about the hits in the set list, I didn't think you'd be at all bothered about where he hasn't played.
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Reply #49 posted 09/26/07 11:47pm

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4bjb said:

HotPaisleyGirl said:

He loves marmite and PG tips


Pls explain what marmite and PG tips are.
Marmite is something that you'll either love or hate. But either way you can have some PG Tips to help get rid of the flavour.
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Reply #50 posted 09/27/07 6:04am

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Perhaps countries with Royalty make him feel more at home razz
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Reply #51 posted 09/27/07 6:10am

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4bjb said:

HotPaisleyGirl said:

He loves marmite and PG tips


Pls explain what marmite and PG tips are.


marmite is like a paste/syrup maed from yeast and people either love it or hate it

PG tips is a make of tea

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Reply #52 posted 09/27/07 7:21am

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TheEnglishGent said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



i can not belive u just said that. eek how do u think fans in Aussie feel? how about japan? how about canada? U just had 21 nites in london and now y'all r gonna start bitching about when he will return? give me a break!

I was hardly bitching, just stating a fact. I know how lucky we've been, I've just had a fantastic summer and didn't want it to end. I was just addressing the fact that he doesn't prefer the UK to the US and pointing out how long it has been and is likely to be. He said at the press conference announcing these shows that he wouldn't be back for a while afterwards.

Of all the people to reply like this, I didn't expect it to be you. Considering all the moaning you did about the hits in the set list, I didn't think you'd be at all bothered about where he hasn't played.


well lets take this in consideration 4 a moment, yes i still bitch about him doing the hits whether it would b in the USA or in Europe since WE have heard them countless of times live in person, where as opposed 2 the fans in Japan and ESPECIALLY Aussieland who in prince's entire career has only been there TWICE. now if he did a 21 nite stand in either of these countries, it wouldn't bother me at all with a set list like he did in london. they haven't xperienced the hits like that.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #53 posted 09/27/07 7:32am

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Perhaps countries with Royalty make him feel more at home razz


Nah, as we have said he LOVES ireland and we dont have a crappy royal family!!! lol lol lol
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