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PrintableL4OATheOriginal said: we shouldn't have 2 suffer becuase of it.
this day and age of technology and what not, there r countless ways 2 hear the old stuff.
Dude, chill out. If going to a show is suffering, stay at home and spin a copy of Planet Earth. In this day and age of technology and what not, there r countless ways 2 hear the new stuff too. L I'm just, I'm just Levi from the org | |
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Why no Chelsea for such a night of dancing? Beats me that one... | |
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PlanetEarth said: I can't wait 2 hear the new album. I have been told I will receive a copy upon exiting the o2 arena.
. Actually you will get it as you enter the arena. You hand over your ticket, they tear the stub off, return the ticket and hand you the CD. Homer Simpson: "I call the big one Bitey"!! | |
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Levi said: L4OATheOriginal said: we shouldn't have 2 suffer becuase of it.
this day and age of technology and what not, there r countless ways 2 hear the old stuff.
Dude, chill out. If going to a show is suffering, stay at home and spin a copy of Planet Earth. In this day and age of technology and what not, there r countless ways 2 hear the new stuff too. L no thanks i hate that album  and i have heard 2 of the london shows..not impressedman, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: every night 20,000 copies of planet earth have been distributed x 21 nihgts equals 420,000 copies of that album not 2 mention the 3 million distributed in the UK Mail newspaper It won't be quite that many that have it but it will certainly be a high number. There's quite a few people going to more than one show. I think the missus and I will have about 15 copies between us at the end of September. 
I'd personally prefer to hear the new stuff but there's no way he would have sold out the O2 for 21 nights doing that. I can live without hearing most of Musicology as for me it is easily the weakest of the last 3 albums. So far I've heard the following from 3121: 3121, Lolita, Black Sweat, Satisfied and Get On The Boat. I would love to hear The Dance, The Word and Fury but aren't too fussed about the others. He should definitely be playing more Planet Earth stuff and to go a night without playing anything from it just seems wrong to me. So far I've heard Planet Earth, Guitar, Somewhere Here On Earth and 1 line of the chorus from The One U Wanna C which was sung during Pink Cashmere one night. I'd love to hear Planet Earth again, along with The One U Wanna C. RIP  | |
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I've only heard Guitar so far. Hoping for Planet Earth on one of my other nights. Shopping is not a sport! | |
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TheEnglishGent said: L4OATheOriginal said: every night 20,000 copies of planet earth have been distributed x 21 nihgts equals 420,000 copies of that album not 2 mention the 3 million distributed in the UK Mail newspaper It won't be quite that many that have it but it will certainly be a high number. There's quite a few people going to more than one show. I think the missus and I will have about 15 copies between us at the end of September.
I'd personally prefer to hear the new stuff but there's no way he would have sold out the O2 for 21 nights doing that. I can live without hearing most of Musicology as for me it is easily the weakest of the last 3 albums. So far I've heard the following from 3121: 3121, Lolita, Black Sweat, Satisfied and Get On The Boat. I would love to hear The Dance, The Word and Fury but aren't too fussed about the others. He should definitely be playing more Planet Earth stuff and to go a night without playing anything from it just seems wrong to me. So far I've heard Planet Earth, Guitar, Somewhere Here On Earth and 1 line of the chorus from The One U Wanna C which was sung during Pink Cashmere one night. I'd love to hear Planet Earth again, along with The One U Wanna C. he definetly needs 2 do the word and love, hopefully after this tour and the hits dropped from his repetoire, well get the new stuff rather than the old stuff. as 4 the planet earth stuff..i can do without it, but there is more songs from emancipation, chaos, rave etc that can fill up a 2 hour show. and if the people don't come, fuck em. we'll jam without them. cause those r the true fans not the casual, nor the "i want the hits only" type of fans. that's why ATWIAD is an important album in his career. it seperated the fakes from the true ones. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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PlanetEarth said: I can't wait 2 hear the new album. I have been told I will receive a copy upon exiting the o2 arena.
So I don't mind hearing hits, such as Purple Rain, Lets Go Crazy, Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones and When Doves Cry. It's almost like they were made 2 go 2gether. Guys, u can buy these 2gether. They r on the same album entitled Purple Rain. [Edited 9/11/07 8:53am] | |
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PlanetEarth said: PlanetEarth said: I can't wait 2 hear the new album. I have been told I will receive a copy upon exiting the o2 arena.
So I don't mind hearing hits, such as Purple Rain, Lets Go Crazy, Take Me With U, The Beautiful Ones and When Doves Cry. It's almost like they were made 2 go together. Guys, u can buy these 2gether. They r on the same album entitled Purple Rain. Random | |
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superspaceboy said: I think it's a crying shame cuts from the last 3 albums have not been played. Just Musicology, Black Sweat, 3121 and Guitar. Occasionally he'll play a different song or 2 from the new one. Seriously..and Chelsea Ragers has yet to be played which is a shame!
IMO, I am very disappointed with the set lists. With a catalog as deep as his, you'd think he'd drop the covers and medleys. Though it is understandable as he hasn't been out there in a long long time, but still...1999, Purple Rain, Let's go Crazy, Kiss???? You're gonna get a roasting for saying that. Did u not read my post entitled `Okay Prince u got so many hits...then why don't u play them!' But we are entitled to our opinions. AND I don't want to hear personal favs, tho' that would be nice, but guess everyone would want that, if they're honest. `U need 2 find a love that's gonna last' | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: Levi said: Dude, chill out. If going to a show is suffering, stay at home and spin a copy of Planet Earth. In this day and age of technology and what not, there r countless ways 2 hear the new stuff too. L no thanks i hate that album and i have heard 2 of the london shows..not impressedI don't know why so many people have a downer on Planet Earth. It isn't that bad an album and has some good tracks - Planet Earth, Guitar, The One U Wanna C, Mr Goodnight and Chelsea Rodgers was kickin' at the Indigo on Sunday night. You're not impressed with the London shows??? Why?? You would have ben impressed if you had been at the 9th Sept Aftershow, truely amazing. So while Prince is in London what would you like him to play? | |
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This is an thought-provoking thread. So I'm going to irritate you with mine 
Maybe the covers are there because he feels the set needs to contain a good proportion of material that the audience will know... but doesn't just want to become a "hits machine". So, play well-known songs by other artists. I'd love to see him do "Long And Winding Road" again. That's a beautiful song. I thought it came across better than "Come Together". Re Hits vs new, even though I'm not big on the new album, I'd rather see new. But that's a fan perspective for you. Playing lots of new material does depend on the audience actually having heard the new album. Genesis (you're thinking "What!?", but its a particularly famous example of getting it wrong) toured their "Lamb" double album in the seventies, playing the whole thing start to finish every night... before the album was actually released! The tour was a total bust and the reviews they got were so bad they had to cancel the last few dates. (Don't worry, I wasn't there for those shows! I'm not *that* old
One problem for P is that because he doesn't do the promotion that he used to do, new release sales are lower, and only a fraction of any given audience will know the new stuff. So he kind of has no choice but to do "hits". My concern is that he'll start to become one of those artists that audiences only go to see play "Purple Rain" and "Kiss". (okay, or 1999, or LRC, or...). Problem with that is if you don't keep moving forward, you start to move backward. Or you have to play smaller venues and less dates, and make sure your fans are there... which if you're not careful gives the general public the impression that whatever you "had" in your heyday, you've lost it. You can see how some very successful artists feel their success has created a rod for their own back, and end up flipping out. So I'd say P has got it right at the O2. The balance of the main show is right for the audience that's there. And the aftershows rock for us hardcore fans. Although, having said that, I think the general public would really get off on the aftershow too! My friends had never seen him before, owned none of his music, but totally freaked at both shows on Sunday. I love it when "ordinary" people suddenly get it. | |
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purplepassion72 said: superspaceboy said: I think it's a crying shame cuts from the last 3 albums have not been played. Just Musicology, Black Sweat, 3121 and Guitar. Occasionally he'll play a different song or 2 from the new one. Seriously..and Chelsea Ragers has yet to be played which is a shame!
IMO, I am very disappointed with the set lists. With a catalog as deep as his, you'd think he'd drop the covers and medleys. Though it is understandable as he hasn't been out there in a long long time, but still...1999, Purple Rain, Let's go Crazy, Kiss???? You're gonna get a roasting for saying that. Did u not read my post entitled `Okay Prince u got so many hits...then why don't u play them!' But we are entitled to our opinions. AND I don't want to hear personal favs, tho' that would be nice, but guess everyone would want that, if they're honest. he won't get a roasting from cause i agree with this poster man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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reddevil said: L4OATheOriginal said: no thanks i hate that album and i have heard 2 of the london shows..not impressedI don't know why so many people have a downer on Planet Earth. It isn't that bad an album and has some good tracks - Planet Earth, Guitar, The One U Wanna C, Mr Goodnight and Chelsea Rodgers was kickin' at the Indigo on Sunday night. You're not impressed with the London shows??? Why?? You would have ben impressed if you had been at the 9th Sept Aftershow, truely amazing. So while Prince is in London what would you like him to play? i'm hoping i can get a chance 2 hear those songs he did at the indigo soon ..but look at the setlist he did i belive it's the aftershow where he did chaos and disorder and i like it there..now that's a setlist that is banging!!! as 4 what i would like him 2 play in the main set ..very simple ..drop purple rain ..but in gold ..focus on his 90's material ..no need 2 do the covers he's been doing like play that funky music etc ..try playing songs he wrote 4 other artists instead ...the other night he did best of u ..that's fine ..but truly..come 90's bound and 00 bound more often man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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popelife said: My concern is that he'll start to become one of those artists that audiences only go to see play "Purple Rain" and "Kiss". (okay, or 1999, or LRC, or...). Problem with that is if you don't keep moving forward, you start to move backward.  exactly what i've been saying but get told i'm being negative..finally someone else that gets it xactly ..man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Welcome to a Prince concert. I saw the Purple Rain Tour and the Lovesexy Tour. They were both amazing. He doesn't put on good shows anymore. He's predictable playing medleys of great songs, but snippets that are shorter than if you were flipping through radio stations. The trick Prince has up his sleeve is he sells his tours on the merits of years long gone. He isn't Purple Rain or Sign O The Times worthy anymore. Now he is backed by amazing wonders of tackiness like "Life O The Party" or I honestly can't even name a good new Prince song...
It's sad but it won't change. He takes your money and gives you bullshit. | |
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mschirmer said: Welcome to a Prince concert. I saw the Purple Rain Tour and the Lovesexy Tour. They were both amazing. He doesn't put on good shows anymore. He's predictable playing medleys of great songs, but snippets that are shorter than if you were flipping through radio stations. The trick Prince has up his sleeve is he sells his tours on the merits of years long gone. He isn't Purple Rain or Sign O The Times worthy anymore. Now he is backed by amazing wonders of tackiness like "Life O The Party" or I honestly can't even name a good new Prince song...
It's sad but it won't change. He takes your money and gives you bullshit.  | |
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Let's face it. We all have different favourites that we want to hear. I have never heard Planet Earth, 3121 or Musicology live, so anything from them was brilliant for me. I've heard Raspberyy Beret, Tak Me With U etc, Loads of times live - since Lovesexy in 1988, that's why I want the new stuff. I feel he's getting the vibe and beginning to do more Planet Earth particulalry at aftershows. He must read this. Chelsea Rodgers. That appears to be appearing more. Cause we want it to.
Who wants some Head? or P Control. Get Off. Sister. New Position. Jack U Off. Not likely to happen Someone said it earlier. Gold was a fantastic finish. I Went home feeeling all good, but sad inside. And now for a cup of tea. I'm getting to know you lot. I should of posted earlier. P & B W PeACe & B WiLd | |
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mschirmer said: Welcome to a Prince concert. I saw the Purple Rain Tour and the Lovesexy Tour. They were both amazing. He doesn't put on good shows anymore. He's predictable playing medleys of great songs, but snippets that are shorter than if you were flipping through radio stations. The trick Prince has up his sleeve is he sells his tours on the merits of years long gone. He isn't Purple Rain or Sign O The Times worthy anymore. Now he is backed by amazing wonders of tackiness like "Life O The Party" or I honestly can't even name a good new Prince song...
It's sad but it won't change. He takes your money and gives you bullshit. You know, I kind of agree with you... but there was nothing about Sunday's aftershow I would term "bullshit". Far from it. But yes, he does kind of have to sell his shows on the strength of his older hits, because that's all the general public knows since he dropped off the radar commercially. Hmm... maybe that's the point of these "singles" he's currently so down on. Remember when Sexy MF was released and for three weeks the radio woke up to him? What's so wrong with releasing killer singles? It's a tough one, he's clearly not concerned about public opinion - the "true" fans get it and that's good enough for him (and me) - but then he depends on public favour to do the big shows that make touring financially viable. I also agree that since his split with Steve Fargnoli, his albums have been progressively less "tight" (3121, Musicology and C&D partly excepted IMO). But I disagree that he hasn't written any good songs! If I was to throw together a double album of his best tracks from the last ten years, it'd probably be my favourite album of all time! I mean, did you see his performance of "The One" on Sunday night? I mean, wow. Wow wow wow wow... The last point I'd make is that the eighties were a long time ago. Everything has moved on, and I mean *everything*. Prince is 20 years older, and the music industry has changed radically. Audiences too. This makes it really hard to successfully stage anything like Lovesexy or SOTT again. Tours now HAVE to make money. But still... I understand where you're coming from. I don't know what the answer is. It may be a bit of a gag, but he's right, he has so many hits, what would the perfect set list look like? I don't know. Ask ten people, you'll get ten different answers. I don't need to see him play Cream, but my friend would have been upset if he hadn't. Oh yeah, here's another vote for "Gold". I can never figure out why that was such a great tune live, but even now I can still feel that big warm glow of being in the front blocks when the opening chords fire up. Never felt anything quite like it before or since. I occasionally find a bit of gold confetti in the pockets of clothes I haven't worn in years. Sing it with me... "Whoa-oh-oh-oh".  | |
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popelife said: mschirmer said: Welcome to a Prince concert. I saw the Purple Rain Tour and the Lovesexy Tour. They were both amazing. He doesn't put on good shows anymore. He's predictable playing medleys of great songs, but snippets that are shorter than if you were flipping through radio stations. The trick Prince has up his sleeve is he sells his tours on the merits of years long gone. He isn't Purple Rain or Sign O The Times worthy anymore. Now he is backed by amazing wonders of tackiness like "Life O The Party" or I honestly can't even name a good new Prince song...
It's sad but it won't change. He takes your money and gives you bullshit. You know, I kind of agree with you... but there was nothing about Sunday's aftershow I would term "bullshit". Far from it. But yes, he does kind of have to sell his shows on the strength of his older hits, because that's all the general public knows since he dropped off the radar commercially. Hmm... maybe that's the point of these "singles" he's currently so down on. Remember when Sexy MF was released and for three weeks the radio woke up to him? What's so wrong with releasing killer singles? It's a tough one, he's clearly not concerned about public opinion - the "true" fans get it and that's good enough for him (and me) - but then he depends on public favour to do the big shows that make touring financially viable. I also agree that since his split with Steve Fargnoli, his albums have been progressively less "tight" (3121, Musicology and C&D partly excepted IMO). But I disagree that he hasn't written any good songs! If I was to throw together a double album of his best tracks from the last ten years, it'd probably be my favourite album of all time! I mean, did you see his performance of "The One" on Sunday night? I mean, wow. Wow wow wow wow... The last point I'd make is that the eighties were a long time ago. Everything has moved on, and I mean *everything*. Prince is 20 years older, and the music industry has changed radically. Audiences too. This makes it really hard to successfully stage anything like Lovesexy or SOTT again. Tours now HAVE to make money. But still... I understand where you're coming from. I don't know what the answer is. It may be a bit of a gag, but he's right, he has so many hits, what would the perfect set list look like? I don't know. Ask ten people, you'll get ten different answers. I don't need to see him play Cream, but my friend would have been upset if he hadn't. Oh yeah, here's another vote for "Gold". I can never figure out why that was such a great tune live, but even now I can still feel that big warm glow of being in the front blocks when the opening chords fire up. Never felt anything quite like it before or since. I occasionally find a bit of gold confetti in the pockets of clothes I haven't worn in years. Sing it with me... "Whoa-oh-oh-oh".  i'm there with ya
there's a mountain and it's mighty high u can not c the top unless u fly .. oh and u want u perfect setlist ..say no more it can b done here is proof that prince can do a show without the hits..check out the setlist and post ur own that does not include the hits thanks Main Concert Songs 3121 emancipation i like it there black sweat she gave her angels hot wit u i rock ther4 i am vavoom chaos and disorder the sensual everafter the love we make circle of amour soul sanctuary the sun the moon and stars there is lonely tangerine pearls b4 the swine silver tongue the word cinnamon girl in this bed i scream white mansion joint 2 joint encore empty room pretty man welcome 2 the dawn aftershow songs dinner with delores damned if i do style fascination 2morrow when the lights go down she spoke 2 me glass cutter illusion coma pimp and circumstance reflection strange but true beautiful strange judas smile cybersingle sexme?sexmenot hide the bone [Edited 9/11/07 22:36pm] man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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