Well Swinger at least ur not a bitter,jealous motherfucker

right on 4 therapy!!

Swinger said:

True, but everytime you do it's some bitter, angry bullshit. You come here for the sole purpose of shitting on anyone who's actually enjoying themselves in relation to Prince & the music. Don't you have better things to do???



Why are you so worried about what I'll supposedly NEVER have?? I've always had a great time @ his shows and to be completely honest, I have no desire to go up there & dance (the serenade is another story ). Your angst is useless & the supposed conflict here is ALL IN YOUR HEAD.

I feel for you, Swinger, you got problems...

BTW, thanks for the nasty OrgNote!

CalhounSq said:

You are exactly the kind of dumb head who gets stepped on and elbowed out of the way by the assholes and predators of the world like Therapy who count on the politeness of other people. That politeness of others enables the "chance takers" to do their thing while everyone else follows the rules.

Just what kind of show would anybody ever see if everybody "took chances" and bum rushed and climbed onstage whenever they wanted to? How much CONTROL would Prince have at his shows if everybody was a rule breaker and chance taker?
You fools can congratulate Therapy, but I'm not in habit of saying "good job" to a bum rusher who takes something they didn't pay for.


Prince

JAMIESTARR said:

Well Jamiestarr at least ur not a useless,irrelevant cluessless asshole with jackshit to say on the subject.


Prince

Therapy said:

Wow, don't scare me...Wouldn't know what this kind of rush would do 2 me now..lol
Sounds like u had a great time Therapy, i'm so happy 4 u

Swinger said:

Sorry, that's never happened to me b/c I stand my ground. On the other hand, you must get run over all the time. You're SO adamant about "the rules" and "people breaking the rules" - well guess what? As fucked up as it is, it happens ALL THE TIME. Now WHY you wanna give yourself a stroke over some inevitable shit?! Venting is good if it makes you feel better, but being more assertive your damn self is something you should explore - you'd worry less about this kinda shit & your perceived sanity (online) would hit a record high!

Maybe the people around Therapy should have told her to get lost... but they didn't.

Maybe she should have been reported to security... but she wasn't.

If the NPGMC members who were actually THERE didn't have a problem with it (and security was chillin', lol), why are you so hell bent on bringing her down? I hear what you're saying Swinger but DAMN, she scored a killer seat at a concert - she didn't kill nobody!

PEACE to you Swinger. Try smiling every now & again, it's good for you. Incase you forgot:

Congrats Therapy!!

Looks like you got a memory to last a lifetime!

Okay, Swinger-DOES kinda have a point here!!
I know that I have been at P concerts before, and have queued for hours outside, then ran in 2 get a place right at the front.Then, when he gets up on stage, all these pushy fuckers come barging down the front like they should be there-when U the one who's been waiting in the pissin rain-not them!
HOWEVER, isn't it as much the NPGMC members who should have told her to fuck off then.
Lets face it tho-I think excitement over-rules manners when u aint seen him live in a while.
PS-nobody try it at Manchester!!Cuz I have a swinging elbow, and I aint afraid 2 use it.

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Thanx to all those who have been kind.

Swinger. I have nothing more to say. I won't be coming back to this thread to comment any more. I disagree with most of what you say. I guess its agree to disagree.

AWESOME STORY THERAPY...

Therapy, was that you all in black with a hat? I have to agree with Swinger to a degree; there were too many freeloaders making up positions nearer the stage but lack of security made it easy to buck the system.

I also find this fawning about 'I'm so happy for you' and 'It's just like I was there' totally sickening. Get over yourselves, it's just a concert. It's not going to change my life, it's not going to pay the bills, and it's not going to bring me eternal happines. What I got was £65 worth of entertainment and a good few laughs to boot.

May I just add that I meant I wouldn't be coming back to the thread to give comment to Swinger again.

Now Geeman... no, was not me with a black hat! All I want to say is that how I understand comments such as 'I'm so happy for you' and 'It's just like I was there' are just that people are excited man!! They are empathising with what happened with me during my first Prince show, that is all. No big mystery. Some people just enjoy to see other people having a good time or happy, that's all.

it was gr8 2 finally meet u, albeit 4 a brief moment onstage, but i did manage 2 skweeze in a kiss, so it was worth it

If anyone posting here had actually been at the Apollo on Thursday and had the unfortunate experience of having an 'aisle seat' then they wouldn't be congratulating Therapy at all.

At least 80 people left their seats at the back rows and charged the front. When some of these people couldn't reach the stage they even stood in front of people with aisle seats. Furthermore some people with aisle seats were happily watching the show standing, only to find someone-else sitting in their seat.

When everyone sat down for the piano set these people had crowded the aisles to such an extent that they completely blocked the view of the stage. Worse than this they were chatting. The number of people behaving in this manner meant that they completely overwhelmed the security staff.

I was 15 rows from the front on Thursday and I attended all 3 concerts and the aftershows and I can honestly tell you that NO-ONE from the back rows was 'invited' by Prince to take the stage on Thursday.

Prince merely grabbed people standing near the front and took them on stage. These people were wrongly in the NPGMC members section. A members section that costs $100 a year and $100 per seat.

A members section that was cruelly and disgustingly over-run by selfish non-members.

dodger said:

I felt the same - very good story

Mr7 said:

Thank you for speaking up. This is exactly what I'm saying. How much sense does it make for paying club members to congratulate a non-member who was not only in the front row which is supposed to be for club members, but she also bum rushed the stage?

As you pointed out in your post, having non-members leaving their seats in the back row and crowding the front infringes on the rights of the members who paid to be in the front. If people in the back want to be in the front, let them buy a $100 membership and pay for the premium ticket, which is higher priced than the tickets for the back rows.

Somebody who pays for a "cheap seat" in the back and then rushes to the front and climbs onstage does NOT deserve to be congratulated.


Bum Rushers

thebumpsquad said:

Someone who lets their excitement over rule their manners at live concerts could get hurt one of these days by security guards or from someone in the crowd who won't hesitate to deliver a sharp blow from a swinging elbow.


Bum Rushers.

am I the only one under the impression that Therapy "got" her front row seat BEFORE the concert started? does it make a difference? at the show I went to, I was near a woman who was so fat she willingly took up 2 folding chairs, which ganked space that a member could've occupied. but nobody said anything, the show went on, shit happens. if Therapy got her seat early it's still wrong but it doesn't have the same impact as a crowd rushing the front. Oh who cares, show's over!

I have to say, I agree with Swinger.

Reading Therapys note and the other theads where she discribed her experience, I realised she was one of several people who bum rushed the area by the speaker I was standing at. They threw themselves in front of members.

People are reading this, congratulating her on her wonderful experience.

Well heres some other facts:

1. I am and was on the night a fully paid up member.

2. I was fighting for my seat, against these freeloaders.

3. Many refused to sit down and blocked our view of the piano set. We asked several times.

4. When they crouched down to try and get away with stealing some space, they talked through the set.

5. I, and others, did ask security to move them, but they did nothing (something they improved on on Saturday).

6. I saw one girl, a member, or guest, with a wrist band, in tears, saying something like "They are ruining it". She tried to get on stage and got shoved out the way by I girl (not therapy) down the aisle.

7. I decided I get up on stage, and several freloaders got up first (being in front of us) and the guard said, no more.


As far as I'm concerned, these people are spoiling the experience for the members, and don't need congratulating.

Therapy, you said above that you were expecting some sort of negative feedback. Thats because you knew you would piss off some members. So you were aware of your actions. That means to are either selfish, or retarded.

You said on another thread that as long as you had a good time, you don't care what anyone else says, and that there is nothing wrong with talking through the piano set. I think that sums up your attitude.

Not being a member on Thursday, but joining now is no excuse. At the show, you should not have been there. You set out to better your position, at someone elses expense.

For those that are glad for her, if you had your show spoiled by a freeloader, how would you feel?

Don't anyone else worry about this type of obsessivness?

Touching him, "Hes normal?" of course he is. Up. Did anyone else see the freeloaders lunging to "Touch him!". No wonder he has boucers to the side.

Now, I can live with it, even though this behavior is totally selfish. But while you talk about the great time you had, I saw a true member crying at yours and others actions.

Doesn't that bother you?

Do the other members want to congratulate that?

Nate said:

:O

Nate said:

Makes sense to me. But will people ever change?

Ok, enough is enough man. I want to clear this up once and for all, so all you mean fuckers, please read this and then get the hell off my thread.

Number one. At no point, did I sit in a seat which a paying member was trying to get into.

Number two. At no point did I block anyones view by standing up. I was on THE FAR RIGHT IN THE LAST TWO SEATS BY THE VERY, VERY AISLE.

Number three. I now have NPGMC membership, ironically, a day after the gig.

Number four. I was invited to go on the stage by Prince. He held his hand out, someone else with more balls grabbed it before me.

Number five. I had a really wonderful, fantastic time of my life evening. I feel sorrow that some of you's on here don't get that, cos you have either experienced people getting in your way, or you are jealous fucks.

Number six. I got my ticket before the evening, yet did not go to the front until he first left stage, before the piano work started. And, when he left stage, I only went to the front for what I thought was going to be *an* encore... I wasn't expecting another hour of the show!! With no one complaining about the seat, I stayed there.
[This message was edited Sun Oct 6 16:19:08 PDT 2002 by Therapy]

SquirrelMeat said:

If you are going to quote me, quote me right. I did say that *I* would not have a problem with people talking at a gig. I understand why *others* may have. Get that? You make me sound like I was 'Hee hee hee, trying to *touch* Prince' - was I hell, I wasn't trying to touch him at all, I have far too much respect for him. I have said that I didn't take his hand, for fear of pulling him in the crowd!! If I were gagging to touch him, I'd have touched him. I can understand what you and swinger and mrbloody7 are saying, of course I can, you are pissed that you are paying for the privelage of having really good seats and that someone else, who hasn't, has come along and just helped herself to one of those seats without paying. Is it just about money then? Or principle? Or envy? None of you lot know me, I would never take someone elses seat if they wanted to use it, I took a chance like I said man and of course I knew that once getting back and reporting it here I'd have a mixed response. It's the nature of the org. I can only assume that the violent response I have received is due to your personal bad experiences and I am sorry for that. I caused zero harm. I do believe there's more to all of y'alls complaints than meets the eye though. Being a counsellor I would though. Perhaps you can org note me and I'll be happy to discuss further??? Come on, I dare you. Write to me personally in future and I will be happy to speak with anyone who has a problem with what I have done on a one to one basis. Not like this though. With you all coming down on me 'like a tonne of bricks'. You aint all my Dad you know, which is what I feel you are all doing, 'You naughty, naughty girl Colette, you *shouldn't* have done that, *should* you?' Well, you all ain't my Dad, and who is to say in this life what *shoulds* are right and wrong anyhows.

Peace.

Hi ... Mrbloody7 here.

In reply to your org noted question, I did indeed enjoy myself ... at all 3 nights and all 3 afterparties.

I enjoyed Saturday night even more because selfish, inconsiderate freeloaders like yourself were removed by increased security.

Prince's own security also patrolled the aisles on the members section on Saturday ... I wonder why?

I'm not suggesting that people should not enjoy themselves. However, they should have the consideration to enjoy themselves without it negatively affecting others.

Mr7 said:

I have nothing more to say to you Antony7. Unless, of course, you wish to air some dirty laundry on a public forum? You bore me.

Swinger said:

Whatever DICKHEAD!

JAMIESTARR said:

By the way why don't u kiss my useless,irrelevant,clueless
asshole?

Therapy said:

I've got three things to say to you:

1. The only mean fucker here is you.

2. Stop dreaming and wake up, Prince did not invited you to go on stage, It would of taken me a long time to forget an ugly face like yours.

3. I'm not a jealous fuck, I just think you attitude sucks.

Locking this thread because it has become far too silly.

Look at what you people posted. Sheesh! It was just a bloody concert report for goodness' sake, no need to get your knickers in twist