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Thread started 08/06/07 3:44pm

Jonfun

Watchdog Aftershow complaints

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cons...port.shtml

I am now moving onto Watchdog to complain.

Please fill in and do the same we need justice.

Ticketmaster know they are in the wrong thats why they have now put up that disclaimer.
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Reply #1 posted 08/06/07 3:47pm

FunkyAphrodite

What disclaimer? Where?
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Reply #2 posted 08/06/07 3:52pm

dfeg

When you go to buy tx for the Aftershow, On the "Look for tickets" page it now says:

Look For Prince - the Official Aftershow Tickets
Additional Information:
Strictly Over 18s only.
I.D. may be requested.
The White hot place to hang for those still in need of some serious grooves.
Prince and the band are not guaranteed to perform.
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Reply #3 posted 08/06/07 3:53pm

FunkyAphrodite

Ah-haaaa.. i see. Ta
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Reply #4 posted 08/06/07 3:57pm

kitkatb

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i would laugh (cry) if he canceled the show because of all these complaints.
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Reply #5 posted 08/06/07 4:00pm

Jonfun

My complaint to Watchdog is now been sent. I would advise everyone thats wants thier money back off Ticketmaster to complain to Watchdog.



http://prince.org/msg/12
Here you can find lots of information on lots of complaints.

Ticketmaster sold tickets for a Prince aftershow at the O2Indigo.

Bought the tickets for this event in good faith from ticketmaster where it was advertised in the concert section as a Prince Aftershow. The night of the concert Prince did not attend to the show, instead he was replaced with a act called Dr John. I bought two tickets for this event for a total amount of £56.75. Prince was backstage and his guitar was set up to play. Then all of a sudden around 1.45am his guitar was taken away and he left with out performing.

Ticketmaster have had loads of complaints and are refusing to give refunds apart from one guy who claims he as been refunded, so why as he been refunded and no one else as.

Since all these complaints about this none performance by Prince ticketmaster have now put this on thier site.

(The White hot place to hang for those still in need of some serious grooves.
Prince and the band are not guaranteed to perform.) This was put up 5/6 August

They sold thousands of tickets before this was up. Its no good putting this up after the show I went to.

Ticketmaster have lead a lot of fans on. All the Friday night aftershow fans should get thier money back. Anyone who bought tickets before that notice went up should be able to get a refund.

I did not pay all that money to travel from Wales to watch Dr John.

Please help a lot of people that feel let down by Ticketmaster.
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Reply #6 posted 08/06/07 10:34pm

purpledoveuk

3121.com and ticketmaster said at the time "Prince and teh band ar not guaranteed to perform but with these cats expect teh unexpected"

To me that very clearly says Prince might not perform everynight.

Im just glad I didnt go to the aftershow - the main show was a stinker by his standards and this would really have topped the night off badly
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Reply #7 posted 08/06/07 11:19pm

tintin

Jonfun said:

My complaint to Watchdog is now been sent. I would advise everyone thats wants thier money back off Ticketmaster to complain to Watchdog.



http://prince.org/msg/12
Here you can find lots of information on lots of complaints.

Ticketmaster sold tickets for a Prince aftershow at the O2Indigo.

Bought the tickets for this event in good faith from ticketmaster where it was advertised in the concert section as a Prince Aftershow. The night of the concert Prince did not attend to the show, instead he was replaced with a act called Dr John. I bought two tickets for this event for a total amount of £56.75. Prince was backstage and his guitar was set up to play. Then all of a sudden around 1.45am his guitar was taken away and he left with out performing.

Ticketmaster have had loads of complaints and are refusing to give refunds apart from one guy who claims he as been refunded, so why as he been refunded and no one else as.

Since all these complaints about this none performance by Prince ticketmaster have now put this on thier site.

(The White hot place to hang for those still in need of some serious grooves.
Prince and the band are not guaranteed to perform.) This was put up 5/6 August

They sold thousands of tickets before this was up. Its no good putting this up after the show I went to.

Ticketmaster have lead a lot of fans on. All the Friday night aftershow fans should get thier money back. Anyone who bought tickets before that notice went up should be able to get a refund.

I did not pay all that money to travel from Wales to watch Dr John.

Please help a lot of people that feel let down by Ticketmaster.


I just wonder how many people would still have bought the tickets if that disclaimer went up on day 1.

I don't know where I saw it but I've always known that it wasn't guaranteed that he'd show. I think you're all just clutching at straws.
[Edited 8/6/07 23:22pm]
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Reply #8 posted 08/06/07 11:50pm

GoldiesParade

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purpledoveuk said:

3121.com and ticketmaster said at the time "Prince and teh band ar not guaranteed to perform but with these cats expect teh unexpected"

To me that very clearly says Prince might not perform everynight.

Im just glad I didnt go to the aftershow - the main show was a stinker by his standards and this would really have topped the night off badly


Not at time of purchase.
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Reply #9 posted 08/07/07 12:14am

leecaldon

GoldiesParade said:

purpledoveuk said:

3121.com and ticketmaster said at the time "Prince and teh band ar not guaranteed to perform but with these cats expect teh unexpected"

To me that very clearly says Prince might not perform everynight.

Im just glad I didnt go to the aftershow - the main show was a stinker by his standards and this would really have topped the night off badly


Not at time of purchase.


Ticketmaster never stated this previously.
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Reply #10 posted 08/07/07 1:34am

Jonfun

Even 3121.com did not say this until tickets had been sold.
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Reply #11 posted 08/07/07 1:40am

One4All4Ever

Jonfun said:

My complaint to Watchdog is now been sent. I would advise everyone thats wants thier money back off Ticketmaster to complain to Watchdog.



http://prince.org/msg/12
Here you can find lots of information on lots of complaints.

Ticketmaster sold tickets for a Prince aftershow at the O2Indigo.

Bought the tickets for this event in good faith from ticketmaster where it was advertised in the concert section as a Prince Aftershow. The night of the concert Prince did not attend to the show, instead he was replaced with a act called Dr John. I bought two tickets for this event for a total amount of £56.75. Prince was backstage and his guitar was set up to play. Then all of a sudden around 1.45am his guitar was taken away and he left with out performing.

Ticketmaster have had loads of complaints and are refusing to give refunds apart from one guy who claims he as been refunded, so why as he been refunded and no one else as.

Since all these complaints about this none performance by Prince ticketmaster have now put this on thier site.

(The White hot place to hang for those still in need of some serious grooves.
Prince and the band are not guaranteed to perform.) This was put up 5/6 August

They sold thousands of tickets before this was up. Its no good putting this up after the show I went to.

Ticketmaster have lead a lot of fans on. All the Friday night aftershow fans should get thier money back. Anyone who bought tickets before that notice went up should be able to get a refund.

I did not pay all that money to travel from Wales to watch Dr John.

Please help a lot of people that feel let down by Ticketmaster.


Whatever you write ALWAYS LOOK AFTER YOUR SPELLING. WTF, spelling is not something people found out to pester you. Using it is a proof of respect and shows that you got your act together. And oh : English is not my native language but the letter you wrote is a disgrace. Whenever you write complaints again, think about the following saying : Speak when you're angry and you'll make the best speech you'll ever regret
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Reply #12 posted 08/07/07 1:42am

2Jay

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Reply #13 posted 08/07/07 1:46am

SquirrelMeat

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One4All4Ever said:

Speak when you're angry and you'll make the best speech you'll ever regret



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Reply #14 posted 08/07/07 2:19am

AWJ

Jonfun said:

My complaint to Watchdog is now been sent. I would advise everyone thats wants thier money back off Ticketmaster to complain to Watchdog.



http://prince.org/msg/12
Here you can find lots of information on lots of complaints.

Ticketmaster sold tickets for a Prince aftershow at the O2Indigo.

Bought the tickets for this event in good faith from ticketmaster where it was advertised in the concert section as a Prince Aftershow. The night of the concert Prince did not attend to the show, instead he was replaced with a act called Dr John. I bought two tickets for this event for a total amount of £56.75. Prince was backstage and his guitar was set up to play. Then all of a sudden around 1.45am his guitar was taken away and he left with out performing.

Ticketmaster have had loads of complaints and are refusing to give refunds apart from one guy who claims he as been refunded, so why as he been refunded and no one else as.

Since all these complaints about this none performance by Prince ticketmaster have now put this on thier site.

(The White hot place to hang for those still in need of some serious grooves.
Prince and the band are not guaranteed to perform.) This was put up 5/6 August

They sold thousands of tickets before this was up. Its no good putting this up after the show I went to.

Ticketmaster have lead a lot of fans on. All the Friday night aftershow fans should get thier money back. Anyone who bought tickets before that notice went up should be able to get a refund.

I did not pay all that money to travel from Wales to watch Dr John.

Please help a lot of people that feel let down by Ticketmaster.


Ok people complaint sent to those bad boys at Watchdog!
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Reply #15 posted 08/07/07 3:58am

unkleg

Jonfun said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/contact_sport.shtml

I am now moving onto Watchdog to complain.

Please fill in and do the same we need justice.

Ticketmaster know they are in the wrong thats why they have now put up that disclaimer.


I've got tickets for this friday coming and later in September. I complained, as a friend was at the Friday sham, saying that if he is attending I want confirmation or otherwise a refund. That was on Sunday via the TM website. No news yet.

Did you complain to TM first? If so what was their response? You know your credit card company should be able to intervene too. Good luck, and if I hear nothing by the end of today, I'm joining you on watchdog!
[Edited 8/7/07 3:58am]
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Reply #16 posted 08/07/07 3:59am

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Good plan.
I complained via Watchdog.
Thank you.
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Reply #17 posted 08/07/07 4:18am

sean2003

I didn't get tickets for the aftershow party because I knew he wasn't guaranteed to play. It's a place he can go if he wants to play, but it's not another concert. I don't believe I'm the only person who knew this, even though there was a lot of speculation about how much he might want to play on the night.

Someone on this forum phoned up and was told that there would be live music every night, but that Prince wasn't guaranteed to play. I do remember reading that. I don't remember anyone saying they'd been told Prince would play for sure.

I know you're all annoyed that you stayed up all night and he didn't show, but surely you just took a gamble that didn't pay off? You can't honestly say that you thought the tickets had been sold as Prince concert tickets, can you? If you did think that, can you back it up with any promotional materials that gave you that impression, or was it just because you've heard stories of aftershow gigs on other tours online? It's all to do with how the tickets were sold, not what you thought you might have been buying.

Fair enough, if you can search your heart and really do believe that you were being sold a ticket to see Prince live again, then call Watchdog, Ticketbastard, the police, whoever. I would. But if you're just annoyed because you lost a bet, then maybe it's time to let it go.

It's great to have Prince here in London. It hasn't all been plain sailing for the fans or for Prince. But let's not drive him away with negativity, eh? I suspect there are a few people (not everyone) who will back down when they think it through.
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Reply #18 posted 08/07/07 4:41am

tintin

unkleg said:

Jonfun said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/contact_sport.shtml

I am now moving onto Watchdog to complain.

Please fill in and do the same we need justice.

Ticketmaster know they are in the wrong thats why they have now put up that disclaimer.


I've got tickets for this friday coming and later in September. I complained, as a friend was at the Friday sham, saying that if he is attending I want confirmation or otherwise a refund. That was on Sunday via the TM website. No news yet.

Did you complain to TM first? If so what was their response? You know your credit card company should be able to intervene too. Good luck, and if I hear nothing by the end of today, I'm joining you on watchdog!
[Edited 8/7/07 3:58am]


So let me get this straight; You're complaining before you've even gone to the gig??! That just takes the fucking biscuit. Seriously people, i'm embarrassed to be a UK fan right now.
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Reply #19 posted 08/07/07 5:02am

JonTebbutt

sean2003 said:

I didn't get tickets for the aftershow party because I knew he wasn't guaranteed to play. It's a place he can go if he wants to play, but it's not another concert. I don't believe I'm the only person who knew this, even though there was a lot of speculation about how much he might want to play on the night.

Someone on this forum phoned up and was told that there would be live music every night, but that Prince wasn't guaranteed to play. I do remember reading that. I don't remember anyone saying they'd been told Prince would play for sure.

I know you're all annoyed that you stayed up all night and he didn't show, but surely you just took a gamble that didn't pay off? You can't honestly say that you thought the tickets had been sold as Prince concert tickets, can you? If you did think that, can you back it up with any promotional materials that gave you that impression, or was it just because you've heard stories of aftershow gigs on other tours online? It's all to do with how the tickets were sold, not what you thought you might have been buying.

Fair enough, if you can search your heart and really do believe that you were being sold a ticket to see Prince live again, then call Watchdog, Ticketbastard, the police, whoever. I would. But if you're just annoyed because you lost a bet, then maybe it's time to let it go.

It's great to have Prince here in London. It hasn't all been plain sailing for the fans or for Prince. But let's not drive him away with negativity, eh? I suspect there are a few people (not everyone) who will back down when they think it through.


So perfectly written! Thank you for adding some sanity to this forum!
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Reply #20 posted 08/07/07 5:50am

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I hate to say it, but you people sure do complain a lot. I don't live in England and I knew it said somewhere (don't remember where) that there was no guarantee Prince would perform at aftershows. With Prince, there is never a guarantee. Can't you be happy with the actual concert? And then if you do go to an aftershow and he doesn't perform have a good time anyway?? Sheesh, I wish I could go.
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Reply #21 posted 08/07/07 5:53am

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This Aftershow business does smack of Ticketmaster using Prince's name to sell tickets for Indigo gigs which have nothing to do with him or his music. Still, Ticketmaster cleverly cover their arses, as do most companies, by including the following in the Terms & Conditions:

"Ticketmaster UK Ltd... reserve the right to change these Terms at any time, effective immediately upon posting on the Site."

Basically, they can do what they like. Still, I've put in my comment to Watchdog, as any bad PR for Ticketmaster is welcome in my book. I've made it clear I'm annoyed with them and not Prince and his agents for this cock up. But at the end of the day, I haven't got as much cause to grumble as some of you guys since it looks like Chaka's performing on the date I'm going. I litterally picked the date at random, so that's pure luck I've got the opportunity to see someone I like. Purchase of goods and services shouldn't come down to luck really, unless it's the National Lottery or something!
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Reply #22 posted 08/07/07 5:57am

SquirrelMeat

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starfysh said:

I hate to say it, but you people sure do complain a lot. I don't live in England and I knew it said somewhere (don't remember where) that there was no guarantee Prince would perform at aftershows. With Prince, there is never a guarantee. Can't you be happy with the actual concert? And then if you do go to an aftershow and he doesn't perform have a good time anyway?? Sheesh, I wish I could go.


I really can't seem to grasp why someone would come onto a complaints thread, and complain about peoples complaining.

You obviously haven't read the other threads that refer to the fact that the shows were advertised as a prince concert, so not only are you moaning at the people here, but you haven't even investigated the cause.

If thats not stirring it up, I don't know what is. If you like the show (or lack of) great. If you don't too bad.

But why try to dictate how others should feel?
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Reply #23 posted 08/07/07 5:59am

AWJ

starfysh said:

I hate to say it, but you people sure do complain a lot. I don't live in England and I knew it said somewhere (don't remember where) that there was no guarantee Prince would perform at aftershows. With Prince, there is never a guarantee. Can't you be happy with the actual concert? And then if you do go to an aftershow and he doesn't perform have a good time anyway?? Sheesh, I wish I could go.


Although I have lambasted both Prince and the organiser for the know show on Friday I did in fact enjoy Dr John the problem lies in lack of communication, once Dr J finished there should have been an announcement to confirm that stroppy pants was not feeling it and was not going to perform, however this would have meant the vast majority of people leaving way before they closed so loosing them extra revenue i.e. people not buying drinks, so as a result of there greed you did end up with a lot of pissed off and/or pissed up people!

AWJ
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Reply #24 posted 08/07/07 6:04am

SquirrelMeat

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FunkyBlueCheese said:

This Aftershow business does smack of Ticketmaster using Prince's name to sell tickets for Indigo gigs which have nothing to do with him or his music. Still, Ticketmaster cleverly cover their arses, as do most companies, by including the following in the Terms & Conditions:

"Ticketmaster UK Ltd... reserve the right to change these Terms at any time, effective immediately upon posting on the Site."

Basically, they can do what they like. Still, I've put in my comment to Watchdog, as any bad PR for Ticketmaster is welcome in my book. I've made it clear I'm annoyed with them and not Prince and his agents for this cock up. But at the end of the day, I haven't got as much cause to grumble as some of you guys since it looks like Chaka's performing on the date I'm going. I litterally picked the date at random, so that's pure luck I've got the opportunity to see someone I like. Purchase of goods and services shouldn't come down to luck really, unless it's the National Lottery or something!
[Edited 8/7/07 5:54am]


Actally, they can't do what they want. It doesn't matter what in in the terms and conditions, if they break your statutory rights, the terms and conditions cam be deemed null and void.

I do lay the blame firmly at Prince's door. All he needed to do is publish the list of who's really playing and everyone could make an informed decision.

Prince can do what he wants, if he doesn't charge. But in charging a fee, he is entering into a contract. He just wants the ability to break that contract when it suits him.
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Reply #25 posted 08/07/07 6:13am

tintin

SquirrelMeat said:

starfysh said:

I hate to say it, but you people sure do complain a lot. I don't live in England and I knew it said somewhere (don't remember where) that there was no guarantee Prince would perform at aftershows. With Prince, there is never a guarantee. Can't you be happy with the actual concert? And then if you do go to an aftershow and he doesn't perform have a good time anyway?? Sheesh, I wish I could go.


I really can't seem to grasp why someone would come onto a complaints thread, and complain about peoples complaining.

You obviously haven't read the other threads that refer to the fact that the shows were advertised as a prince concert, so not only are you moaning at the people here, but you haven't even investigated the cause.

If thats not stirring it up, I don't know what is. If you like the show (or lack of) great. If you don't too bad.

But why try to dictate how others should feel?


I don't think anyone's trying to dictate here. Some of us just want to complain about the complainers, thats all!
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Reply #26 posted 08/07/07 6:15am

SquirrelMeat

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tintin said:



I don't think anyone's trying to dictate here. Some of us just want to complain about the complainers, thats all!


Bloody complainers of complainers! wink lol
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Reply #27 posted 08/07/07 6:22am

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SquirrelMeat said:

starfysh said:

I hate to say it, but you people sure do complain a lot. I don't live in England and I knew it said somewhere (don't remember where) that there was no guarantee Prince would perform at aftershows. With Prince, there is never a guarantee. Can't you be happy with the actual concert? And then if you do go to an aftershow and he doesn't perform have a good time anyway?? Sheesh, I wish I could go.


I really can't seem to grasp why someone would come onto a complaints thread, and complain about peoples complaining.

You obviously haven't read the other threads that refer to the fact that the shows were advertised as a prince concert, so not only are you moaning at the people here, but you haven't even investigated the cause.

If thats not stirring it up, I don't know what is. If you like the show (or lack of) great. If you don't too bad.

But why try to dictate how others should feel?


My point was that even I, who had no chance of going to any of the concerts/aftershows, knew there was the chance that Prince would not perform at the aftershows, so why do so many people there not know this? If I read it, how did people buying the tickets miss it? I'm not trying to dictate how people should feel, just can't figure out why people think they're owed something when they're not. If he didn't show up at the concert, that would be something to complain about. Don't know why I posted really, doesn't matter to me in the least. But it seems having Prince in London should be something to be happy about, not something to get so angry about.

Hey, maybe I've got it all wrong. But I came on to read reviews of the concerts/aftershows and most of what I read was negative. It just seems like sometimes people expect too much.

Okay, carry on. Just pretend I was never even here smile

Have fun.
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Reply #28 posted 08/07/07 4:27pm

unkleg

tintin said:

unkleg said:



I've got tickets for this friday coming and later in September. I complained, as a friend was at the Friday sham, saying that if he is attending I want confirmation or otherwise a refund. That was on Sunday via the TM website. No news yet.

Did you complain to TM first? If so what was their response? You know your credit card company should be able to intervene too. Good luck, and if I hear nothing by the end of today, I'm joining you on watchdog!
[Edited 8/7/07 3:58am]


So let me get this straight; You're complaining before you've even gone to the gig??! That just takes the fucking biscuit. Seriously people, i'm embarrassed to be a UK fan right now.


Just to be clear, I'm not jumping on some sort of bandwagon here. I have bought officially released aftershow tickets in the past (bagleys and nighttown) prior to the event, and yes Prince did perform. Ticketmaster were selling tickets to a Prince aftershow in advance, so it's fair to expect this was a pre-arranged fixture. If they had put in that line about 'Prince is not guaranteed to perform' from the start I wouldn't have bought tickets.

Most of the aftershows I've been to in the past were word of mouth events, and if he didn't turn up to those, yeah, I guess I would agree moaning is a bit pointless. Equally pointless would be turning up to a gig (as you put it) which has the artist's name on it, someone else performing, and you not feeling like a total mug. If I'm taking the f**king biscuit what are TM doing, sending their profits to Oxfam?!
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Reply #29 posted 08/07/07 4:45pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

tintin said:



I don't think anyone's trying to dictate here. Some of us just want to complain about the complainers, thats all!


Bloody complainers of complainers! wink lol


And what about the complainers of complainers of complainers, sound familiar cat in a bucket?
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