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Printablem3taverse said: iain said: How exactly? Does the service suddenly become crap? Do the seats suddenly revert back to economy seats? I'm genuinely baffled by that comment. One of the benefits of flying first class is that you get to share a space with a bunch of people who are reasonably well funded. This can have both business and personal benefits. It's why all these types of afluent-people clubs exist, so they get to run into people within the same professional and social bracket. Those clubs can't exist if they are open to anyone. A concert is a different thing tho. Absolute rubbish..I've shared First Class with some of the most arrogant people around..just because they have money does not make them nice people..quite the opposite | |
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m3taverse said: One of the benefits of flying first class is that you get to share a space with a bunch of people who are reasonably well funded. This can have both business and personal benefits. It's why all these types of afluent-people clubs exist, so they get to run into people within the same professional and social bracket. Those clubs can't exist if they are open to anyone. A concert is a different thing tho. Well, firstly, an aeroplane of public transport isn't a club tho', it's public transport. And secondly, if seats are otherwise empty I'm not sure how you'd be running into anyone. [Edited 8/2/07 12:33pm] | |
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m3taverse said: iain said: How exactly? Does the service suddenly become crap? Do the seats suddenly revert back to economy seats? I'm genuinely baffled by that comment. One of the benefits of flying first class is that you get to share a space with a bunch of people who are reasonably well funded. This can have both business and personal benefits. It's why all these types of afluent-people clubs exist, so they get to run into people within the same professional and social bracket. Those clubs can't exist if they are open to anyone. A concert is a different thing tho. You are really making my blood boil. I bet you didn't even have to buy your copy of the Sunday mail through gritted teeth like the rest of us, because you get it delivered to your door every week anyway.  | |
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dayzofwyld said: m3taverse said: One of the benefits of flying first class is that you get to share a space with a bunch of people who are reasonably well funded. This can have both business and personal benefits. It's why all these types of afluent-people clubs exist, so they get to run into people within the same professional and social bracket. Those clubs can't exist if they are open to anyone. A concert is a different thing tho. Absolute rubbish..I've shared First Class with some of the most arrogant people around..just because they have money does not make them nice people..quite the opposite Who said anything about people being nice. I'm a businessman. I need to talk to people I can do business with. If I, while doing that, run into the occassional nice person/hot female, that's a bonus. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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iain said: m3taverse said: One of the benefits of flying first class is that you get to share a space with a bunch of people who are reasonably well funded. This can have both business and personal benefits. It's why all these types of afluent-people clubs exist, so they get to run into people within the same professional and social bracket. Those clubs can't exist if they are open to anyone. A concert is a different thing tho. An aeroplane of public transport isn't a club tho', it's public transport. First class transatlantic travel is much like a business club. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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slaphead said: m3taverse said: One of the benefits of flying first class is that you get to share a space with a bunch of people who are reasonably well funded. This can have both business and personal benefits. It's why all these types of afluent-people clubs exist, so they get to run into people within the same professional and social bracket. Those clubs can't exist if they are open to anyone. A concert is a different thing tho. You are really making my blood boil. I bet you didn't even have to buy your copy of the Sunday mail through gritted teeth like the rest of us, because you get it delivered to your door every week anyway. actually no, my secretary picked up a few copies and sent them out to some friends and family  "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: iain said: An aeroplane of public transport isn't a club tho', it's public transport. First class transatlantic travel is much like a business club. So what if I bought a first class ticket to go on holiday? Would a mere holiday maker similarly spoil your first class experience? | |
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I have more of a problem the way the tickets have been allocated.
To sell the worst tickets first and leave the best to last is unfair to real fans who have waited to see Prince for ages and then end up at the back. I always find it funny how soooo many people/celebs always make a joke of him but always want tickets to see him. The security where I sat were jobsworths and attempted to spoil the party atmosphere, they really need to get lifes. Prince rocked London again. God bless him!!! | |
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Why is this an issue people get emotional about anyway.
At a Prince concert I think it's cool if some people got their seats upgraded, especially if they were fans. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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iain said: m3taverse said: First class transatlantic travel is much like a business club. So what if I bought a first class ticket to go on holiday? Would a mere holiday maker similarly spoil your first class experience? A mere holiday maker wouldn't fly first class, unless they were well and truly loaded, in which case they could still be of interest "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: slaphead said: You are really making my blood boil. I bet you didn't even have to buy your copy of the Sunday mail through gritted teeth like the rest of us, because you get it delivered to your door every week anyway. actually no, my secretary picked up a few copies and sent them out to some friends and family MESSAGE TO ALL BAR STAFF AT O2 AND CABIN CREW WORKING FIRST CLASS: If you are unfortunate enough to have any dealings with this man in the future, do us all a favour & PISS IN HIS DRINK. | |
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slaphead said: m3taverse said: actually no, my secretary picked up a few copies and sent them out to some friends and family MESSAGE TO ALL BAR STAFF AT O2 AND CABIN CREW WORKING FIRST CLASS: If you are unfortunate enough to have any dealings with this man in the future, do us all a favour & PISS IN HIS DRINK. Agreed! If the likes of him are in first class..give me economy any day | |
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slaphead said: m3taverse said: actually no, my secretary picked up a few copies and sent them out to some friends and family MESSAGE TO ALL BAR STAFF AT O2 AND CABIN CREW WORKING FIRST CLASS: If you are unfortunate enough to have any dealings with this man in the future, do us all a favour & PISS IN HIS DRINK. 
What are you so angry about slaphead, I don't get it. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: iain said: So what if I bought a first class ticket to go on holiday? Would a mere holiday maker similarly spoil your first class experience? A mere holiday maker wouldn't fly first class, unless they were well and truly loaded, in which case they could still be of interest Maybe they'll be too busy enjoying all those First Class movies to chat. 
Whilst I can take your point - even tho' I disagree and think it snobbery in the extreme - I still don't get what you're losing by seats being filled by common plebs rather than being empty. You can't do much business with an empty seat, surely? And what is it with this forum, and the abuse that gets hurled around so much - the above comment seemed a bit harsh. | |
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m3taverse said: slaphead said: MESSAGE TO ALL BAR STAFF AT O2 AND CABIN CREW WORKING FIRST CLASS: If you are unfortunate enough to have any dealings with this man in the future, do us all a favour & PISS IN HIS DRINK.
What are you so angry about slaphead, I don't get it. That especially prepared potato over there is called a F*%@ing bigoted Ar@%wipe who I wouldn't spit on if his first class arse was on fire. | |
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As the originator of this thread i would just like to make one thing clear,
I'm not well off and do not earn a huge salary. Having been to many a prince concert in the past and given crap seats i broke the bank to purchase these VIP tickets which promised the best seats in the house within the first 10 rows on the floor. My gripe is, They didn't allocte me on the floor as promised (however i proberly got a better seat in the end), the buffet and free drinks was an insult and to make it worse people from other seats were put in front of me having only paid £31.21 Believe me, i'm all 4 giving people better seats and i'm pleased for them but i'm furious that i paid all this money for tickets which promised the earth and gave me nothing more than a standard ticket would have. I don't have loads of money, i don't fly or travel business class anywhere, i'm just a normal blaoke and a big fan who got caught up in the whole VIP lure and fell for it. Never again [Edited 8/2/07 12:56pm] [Edited 8/2/07 12:56pm] | |
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chris0972 said: As the originator of thos thread i would just like to make one thing clear,
I'm not well off and do not earn a huge salary. Having been to many a prince concert in the past and given crap seats i broke the bank to purchase these VIP tickets which promised the best seats in the house within the first 10 rows on the floor. My gripe is, They didn't allocte me on the floor as promised (however i proberly got a better seat in the end), the buffet and free drinks was an insult and to make it worse people from other seats were put in front of me having only paid £31.21 Believe me, i'm all 4 giving people better seats and i'm pleased for them but i'm furious that i paid all this money for tickets which promised the earth and gave me nothing more than a standard ticket would have. I don't have loads of mone, i was just a fan who got caught up in the whole VIP lure and fell for it. Never again Well write to BBC's Watchdog..I am sure they would love to hear from you..people on here who are happy that someone filled the seats are probably not the ones who forked out £200+ for the tickets you did..if they had they might not be so happy...I know I wouldn't be. | |
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slaphead said: m3taverse said:
What are you so angry about slaphead, I don't get it. That especially prepared potato over there is called a F*%@ing bigoted Ar@%wipe who I wouldn't spit on if his first class arse was on fire. That doesn't answer my question tho, can you explain what is making you angry? "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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chris0972 said: As the originator of this thread i would just like to make one thing clear,
I'm not well off and do not earn a huge salary. Having been to many a prince concert in the past and given crap seats i broke the bank to purchase these VIP tickets which promised the best seats in the house within the first 10 rows on the floor. My gripe is, They didn't allocte me on the floor as promised (however i proberly got a better seat in the end), the buffet and free drinks was an insult and to make it worse people from other seats were put in front of me having only paid £31.21 Believe me, i'm all 4 giving people better seats and i'm pleased for them but i'm furious that i paid all this money for tickets which promised the earth and gave me nothing more than a standard ticket would have. I don't have loads of money, i don't fly or travel business class anywhere, i'm just a normal blaoke and a big fan who got caught up in the whole VIP lure and fell for it. Never again [Edited 8/2/07 12:56pm] [Edited 8/2/07 12:56pm] I totally get everything you say. Except the bit about being annoyed that the seats didn't remain empty during the show. Whether they remained empty or not has absolutely no impact or relevance to anything else. Put it this way - if everything had happened exactly as it did... ...but the seats in front of you had remained empty... ..would you have been any less pissed off about the rest of it? | |
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iain said: Whilst I can take your point - even tho' I disagree and think it snobbery in the extreme - I still don't get what you're losing by seats being filled by common plebs rather than being empty. You can't do much business with an empty seat, surely?
If I would frequently be alone in first class, I wouldn't fly first class. You can call it snobbery or whatever, but I'd like to point out that I myself came from absolutely nothing. I did not have a silver spoon in my mouth, no one *ever* gave me a handout. I became what I am by working my ass off and zeroing in on the right people to accomplish what I wanted to accomplish. Business clubs and everything like it is just a part of that. Over time I've gotten to enjoy luxury as well, and I'm lucky to be able to live a comfortable lifestyle. And if you really want to know why filling first class with just about anyone is a bad idea, you merely need to look over this thread. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: slaphead said: That especially prepared potato over there is called a F*%@ing bigoted Ar@%wipe who I wouldn't spit on if his first class arse was on fire. That doesn't answer my question tho, can you explain what is making you angry? I think it's your snobbish arrogance that thinks that 'people who can't afford it' shouldn't be allowed to sit in first class, even when it would otherwise mean the seats remained empty, as their mere presence somehow spoils your own experience in a way that an empty seat apparently wouldn't'. I can just about get that you might be able to 'talk business' with likeminded folk, given the choice. But if the choice is non business types, or empty seats, then I can't for the life of me see how it affects you. Is it because we smell, get drunk, and generally cause trouble? [Edited 8/2/07 13:15pm] [Edited 8/2/07 13:15pm] | |
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m3taverse said: iain said: Whilst I can take your point - even tho' I disagree and think it snobbery in the extreme - I still don't get what you're losing by seats being filled by common plebs rather than being empty. You can't do much business with an empty seat, surely?
If I would frequently be alone in first class, I wouldn't fly first class. You can call it snobbery or whatever, but I'd like to point out that I myself came from absolutely nothing. I did not have a silver spoon in my mouth, no one *ever* gave me a handout. I became what I am by working my ass off and zeroing in on the right people to accomplish what I wanted to accomplish. Business clubs and everything like it is just a part of that. Over time I've gotten to enjoy luxury as well, and I'm lucky to be able to live a comfortable lifestyle. And if you really want to know why filling first class with just about anyone is a bad idea, you merely need to look over this thread. How you made your money is irrelevant tho'. As for the 'just about anyone' comment - only if you presume that wealthy business types can't be just as rude as anyone else. | |
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iain said: m3taverse said: If I would frequently be alone in first class, I wouldn't fly first class. You can call it snobbery or whatever, but I'd like to point out that I myself came from absolutely nothing. I did not have a silver spoon in my mouth, no one *ever* gave me a handout. I became what I am by working my ass off and zeroing in on the right people to accomplish what I wanted to accomplish. Business clubs and everything like it is just a part of that. Over time I've gotten to enjoy luxury as well, and I'm lucky to be able to live a comfortable lifestyle. And if you really want to know why filling first class with just about anyone is a bad idea, you merely need to look over this thread. How you made your money is irrelevant tho'. As for the 'just about anyone' comment - only if you presume that wealthy business types can't be just as rude as anyone else. Don't miss the part where I say zoning in on the right people is a part of business. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: slaphead said: That especially prepared potato over there is called a F*%@ing bigoted Ar@%wipe who I wouldn't spit on if his first class arse was on fire. That doesn't answer my question tho, can you explain what is making you angry? People who think that just because they have money/ go to the 'right' clubs / know the 'right' people, they are more superior to those that do not. Having money does not automatically make you a better person. In fact as you have successfully illustrated, it's quite the opposite. But to be perfectly honest, thank god there is a first class section on planes because it keeps the likes of you away from the likes of me in cattle class & for that I shall be eternally grateful. | |
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chris0972 said: Please accept my appologies if this has already been posted.
What a concert, absolutely fantastic in every way but was spoilt by those idiots @ ticketmaster. I purchased 3 x VIP tickets @ 235.00 each and ended up being seated in block 102, row c, great seats by the way. But what really pissed me off is that i caught security guards and box office members @ the O2 handing out gold circle seating tickets to various people who had got top tier tickets. They were just offering them to them for nothing. Obviousely these seats hadn't sold (VIP seats) and whilst this was great for the lucky concert goers i ended up with at least 8 x people in the row in front of me who had paid 31.21 and got upper tier tickets. An absoute joke! I love Prince, but this whole ticket thing does not reflect well on him and his management. I really sympathise with you, and with those of us who booked at 9am on the first day, only to get worse seats than those who booked weeks later. I'm afraid to say that the gigs haven't sold quite as quickly as we were led to believe, and 'regular fans' have been used as pawns to "sell out" certain allocations quickly, only for them to release seats later. It's been good a good PR campaign, but tough on loyal fans who just want good tickets at a fair price! | |
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PriceAndTheRevolution said: SquirrelMeat said: Grow up. No, listen. How about the guy who can afford three (three!) £235 tickets welcomes the other fans, chats to them, congratulates them on their good luck, enjoys the show shoulder-to-shoulder with them, rather than getting annoyed that the peasants have infiltrated his aristocratic enclave and bitching about it on the internet? Jeez. Someone back me up here. i totally see where you're coming from here mate. i agree with you | |
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dayzofwyld said: chris0972 said: As the originator of thos thread i would just like to make one thing clear,
I'm not well off and do not earn a huge salary. Having been to many a prince concert in the past and given crap seats i broke the bank to purchase these VIP tickets which promised the best seats in the house within the first 10 rows on the floor. My gripe is, They didn't allocte me on the floor as promised (however i proberly got a better seat in the end), the buffet and free drinks was an insult and to make it worse people from other seats were put in front of me having only paid £31.21 Believe me, i'm all 4 giving people better seats and i'm pleased for them but i'm furious that i paid all this money for tickets which promised the earth and gave me nothing more than a standard ticket would have. I don't have loads of mone, i was just a fan who got caught up in the whole VIP lure and fell for it. Never again Well write to BBC's Watchdog..I am sure they would love to hear from you..people on here who are happy that someone filled the seats are probably not the ones who forked out £200+ for the tickets you did..if they had they might not be so happy...I know I wouldn't be. if i paid £200+ for a seat in the first ten rows i wouldn't give a good god damn who got let in in front of me or how much they paid cos i still got the seat i paid for. fortune smiled on those lucky people. good for them | |
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dayzofwyld said: wrekkastow said: on that topic...i got punched in the nose last night for singing to the songs....guy infront told me to stop..i carried on and he got up and hit me... but whats a bit of blood between friends!!? he got thrown out....i carried on singing in nasal c minor....haha. As for standing up...just all stand...bop, sing...laugh...just enjoy it...he wont do this forever.... God I am so sorry to hear that, concerts seem to have changed these days..people talking through the quiet songs and people constantly texting on their mobiles. You didn't happen to be in the upper tier were you..there was a cafuffle behind me and some people got thrown out. Hope your feeling better Umm...no-one is actually SITTING in the seats, are they? I mean, I know that everyone is allocated seats, but at concerts people generally tend to stand in front of (or even ON) the seats. I'm planning on dancing an awful lot and possibly singing along! I very much doubt that I am alone here, right? Sounds like a real man to me...mind if I turn on the radio? | |
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