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Reply #30 posted 07/08/07 1:24pm

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Has it occured to you that maybe P just had to many things going on in one day.
He performed 3 times and 3 different venues. He use to start all his shows late bbut the last 3 times I saw him he started on time.

He has gotten better but, things are going to happen.


PapaSmurf said:

What is this nonsense about "you should expect it" or "get used to it" or "it's prince..." as if any of that makes it ok. lol Some of you are just absolutely crawled up inside Prince's bowels. You would find an excuse for him to spit on your crippled, one-eyed grandma.

Thirty minutes is expected, really. Rarely do shows start on time because its virtually impossible to have every unanticipated kink worked out. Anything more than that is unacceptable, and an hour and a half is just crazy.

Time and time again, Prince shows his fans what he thinks of them. Yet they beg for more. I guess if you like to pay money to get shit on, more power to you. A lot of people have lives outside of Prince's purple fantasy world, lol. I feel bad for the guy above who had to plan his day strategically only to be dicked around by some ego driven celebrity.
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Reply #31 posted 07/08/07 2:02pm

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I think he did a fantastic job!ppl should have expected some kind of delays.I mean the man did 3 1derful shows!C'mon give him a break.It was uncomfortable bcuz of the humidity.And not being able 2 leave TC 2 use the rest room mad But i met sum really cool ppl>and PRince Beat that stage UP!!!!and Wendy was a sweet surprise.U still look GOOD girl ;-)Mace0 OmyWoW he gave me goose bumps.Sheila :worship:She Bad!Oh,and the best part of show 4 me personally.Was when he did... OmyW0W he did...I prayed that he would do this song...If eye WAS uR GIRLFRIEND!!!!TyTYTYTYTYTYTYTY so much worship worship love2.

1st ave They blew me away.When i saw Larry lol i said 2 myself hmmmC that Was him i saw..umm...somewhere N chanhassen.But Ohhh yes he was 2 funky!I wish i could write more N detail,but im still trying 2 wake up.It was GR8 2c all of u.
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Reply #32 posted 07/08/07 3:05pm

endorphin74

The accoustics of tha Target Center are FUCKED. That being said, it really depends on where you are at. We were in section 138 Row A last nite and the sound there was PHENOMENAL. But I know in that arena it really depends where you are at.

Me and a few in my crew left when they started into the Crazy cover. After hearing it at Macy's I couldn't do it again and we decided to just go join the queue at The Ave.

As for the late start. Macy's started late because the First Ave on sale was so poorly timed and taking so long. They delayed the Macy's performance to accomdate folks who were stuck in that line. So I knew things would be late from there on out. That being said, I think it's INSANE that they didn't start letting folks INTO the arena earlier and just post something that the actual set would start late. Shoot, they coulda made bank off the beer sales alone.

But whatevs, I'm 100% atisfied with my experience this weekend.
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Reply #33 posted 07/08/07 3:10pm

happyhappy

good musicians weren't ment to play big venues (my opinion). i've never been to a huge venue, and i'd like to keep it that way (unless i got badass seats or whatevs). theres something beautiful about the intimacy in a small space and the music gets around great, that's why i love the concept of 3121 (or any smaller place).

i'm sorry your show was bad, but i would of been a spaz just to be in that part of the country lol
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Reply #34 posted 07/08/07 4:44pm

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even the wiggles have started late when bad traffic has delayed fans nod wink
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #35 posted 07/08/07 4:49pm

Gohi

happyhappy said:

good musicians weren't ment to play big venues (my opinion). i've never been to a huge venue, and i'd like to keep it that way (unless i got badass seats or whatevs). theres something beautiful about the intimacy in a small space and the music gets around great, that's why i love the concept of 3121 (or any smaller place).

i'm sorry your show was bad, but i would of been a spaz just to be in that part of the country lol

Our show was definitely not bad at all.
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Reply #36 posted 07/08/07 5:15pm

zcofnnu

Yeah, the acoustics towards the top levels were pretty bad and definitely a lot worst for the songs that had everyone playing. The set with Prince/Wendy, the Prince piano songs, and the solos with Renato and Mike Phillips were pretty clear.

You could tell that Prince and everybody on stage was really working it, so it was disappointing that the sound did not come through as clearly as it should have. Also, a lot of comments that Prince made to the crowd were hard to decipher from the upper levels.

It was still great getting to see Prince in concert and in Minneapolis. And it was really cool going to different restaurants/bars prior to and after the concert and hearing song after song of Prince. A lot of great songs that never get played on radio.

Would love to see Prince in London but probably won't get the chance. Next time I'll try to get tickets a little closer.
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Reply #37 posted 07/08/07 5:42pm

ggras

razz This reminds me of all the haters after the Hard Rock show in Florida. That show started late, of course and was short on time and similar in set list, but as a Prince fan, I managed to enjoy myself. I feel sorry for people that get upset enough to leave a show they paid good money for, but you gotta do what you feel is right. I have been to many concerts and never felt disappointed enough to leave...I came close to walking out on The Cars back in the early 80's but they ended the show because they didn't have any other tunes! I never listened to them again, they SUCKED in concert! I have never thought that Prince concerts sucked and I've seen a few! Oh well...to each his own and as for opinions...you know what they say...everyone has one! lol wink
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Reply #38 posted 07/08/07 6:04pm

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Astasheiks said:

Whats with the design of Target that makes it bad acoustically? Knowing this couldn't P's engineers compensated with Speaker positions???

And was this sound just bad in the Upper level seats?


The Target Center was designed with sporting events in mind, basically just fitting in as many people as they could with not much, if any, thought to acoustics. When the Xcel was built, they had both sports and music factor into how they designed it.....
Gotta love the Purple One......
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Reply #39 posted 07/08/07 6:52pm

ReginaCarman

OmahaVike said:

yes, after paying almost $200 for two seats, we left right after IIWYG. yes, we walked out of the show.

the brass section was phenomenal, but the rest of the show was unbearable. was up in section 210 and couldn't understand/hear squat. anytime P was speaking or singing, we couldn't comprehend anything.

i guess it was partially because of the irresponsible late start (10:00p), partially because of waiting out in the heat, and being 1/4 of a mile away from the stage.

i've seen him 5 times prior, and this is the first time i've walked out on him. our entire weekend was centered around this show, and travel/babysitter/dinner/etc was all timed to the 8:30p start. this was totally uncalled for.

i did like my first introduction to Guitar, so of course i'll buy it when it comes out. highlight of what i saw was What A Wonderful World. stellar rendition and amazing work.

it literally took me halfway through IIWYG before i figured out what the heck they were playing. that's pretty bad, and damn close to embarrasing.

btw - was that john goodman singing Play That Funky Music?

i really understand your disapointment, but i think that they try to accomadate as many prople as possible due to popular demand and very possible there are unexpected circumstances. There are so many things to organize that something is bound to go less then perfect.
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Reply #40 posted 07/08/07 6:56pm

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I was in section 209 and the sound was very weak. This was by far the my least favorite of his shows. That being said, I would do it again knowing the circumstances were the same. We could not understand much of what he was saying. My last shows were at the American Airlines Center in Dallas and the sound was ten fold better than the Target Center.
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Reply #41 posted 07/08/07 7:04pm

sharonzeke

NEVER EVER sit in the upper section of Target Center. You willnever hear anything up there. I learned the hard way and I am sorry of all artists for you it had to be Prince but it was all a location thing. In '04 he played Excel for that very reason, the sound but since he had the Macy's gig he wanted to be close! So sorry for your loss that incredible night of my life!
*******All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love
And we will smoke them all*******
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Reply #42 posted 07/08/07 7:07pm

Orionforever

laurarichardson said:[quote]Has it occured to you that maybe P just had to many things going on in one day.
He performed 3 times and 3 different venues. He use to start all his shows late bbut the last 3 times I saw him he started on time.

He has gotten better but, things are going to happen.


I have seen Prince over 20 times and he has NEVER EVER started on time..
EVER!~~ It wasn't so much the not starting on time.. but it was being
Backed in to the Atrium of the Target Center.. sweating like PIGS.
EVERYONE was dripping sweat and fanning themselves off.

I kept saying WHY do I do this.....
But as soon as the show began I KNEW Why I do this.....
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Reply #43 posted 07/08/07 7:12pm

Orionforever

We were on the Floor 2 Row 6. The seats were excellent..
The sound WAS VERY VERY muffled.... and the bass was TOO LOUD
But Prince seemed to be in Good form and having a great time.
He was signally out to the sound crew a bunch of times tho
to try and fix problems...

I honestly think he smashed too much stuff in to ONE day..
I have seen him over 20 times and I think he cut the show a
TAD short..
and I could of done with out SO MANY of the really old tunes
After hearing about some of the LA shows.. where he played
3 hours and pulled out hits like "GIRL" and "1999" I was really
excited for some Rarely played tunes...

But I am always happy to see Prince and he looked SEXY as hell.
I would have a terrible time walking out on him!!!!
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Reply #44 posted 07/08/07 8:00pm

OmahaVike

thank you all for your patience and control in not flaming the heck out of me.

i can understand that a lot of you wouldn't walk out on a good show. indeed, i bet it *was* a good show. but for me, and my perspective, it is *totally* about the music -- and if i cannot hear the music, then what is the point? again, this is my perspective.

sure, it was cool seeing (via movie screens) shiela E and wendy up there. john goodman was interesting. those wacky ladies from the crowd all over the stage, and the bird-lady.

but for me, it was supposed to be about the music. and if it literally took me halfway through IIWYG to recognize it, there's a severe disconnect there.

this was my fifth show by him through the years, and all of which have started on time. the professionalism exhibited by not only a late start, but a horrendous audio connection was just too much to bear after kicking out $80 a ticket (plus surcharges, babysitting costs, parking, etc).

so, i'm going to take my consumerism a step further. prince will exile any stadium which does not sell out, and will no longer play there. i have vowed to reciprocate the favor and no longer patronize any of his live show -- even if its free (hey, i was around with the ol' paisely park unannounced shows).

i'll stick with the bootlegs and studio releases. after all, it's a LOT cheaper and is more accomodating for my own personal time.

i appreciate all of your feedback and comments, as i was surely expecting to be ostercized. the fams are way cool, and i never do forget that. even if certain others might.

take care y'all.
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Reply #45 posted 07/08/07 10:34pm

Astasheiks

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wiredguy said:

The Target Center has acoustic problems in the upperlevels due to the bad angles and the height. Sound bounces off of all surfaces so the roof combined with the bad angles makes for dead spots. I feel sorry for the people who had to suffer because of this but you still got to see a Legend. At the Xcel they have straighter lines and add acoutic absorbing drapes to stop the reverb. Target Center could do the same with a little effort. In the future I would advise people to pass on the upper level seats and concentrate on main floor and lower level seats at The Target Center. I was 12th row main floor and I enjoyed the sound even if it was a tad echoic. I loved seeing all U Prince fans showing your LUV to the Man. Hope to see U all soon.


Great physics!
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Reply #46 posted 07/08/07 10:35pm

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Reply #47 posted 07/08/07 10:40pm

Astasheiks

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OmahaVike said:

yes, after paying almost $200 for two seats, we left right after IIWYG. yes, we walked out of the show.

the brass section was phenomenal, but the rest of the show was unbearable. was up in section 210 and couldn't understand/hear squat. anytime P was speaking or singing, we couldn't comprehend anything.

i guess it was partially because of the irresponsible late start (10:00p), partially because of waiting out in the heat, and being 1/4 of a mile away from the stage.

i've seen him 5 times prior, and this is the first time i've walked out on him. our entire weekend was centered around this show, and travel/babysitter/dinner/etc was all timed to the 8:30p start. this was totally uncalled for.

i did like my first introduction to Guitar, so of course i'll buy it when it comes out. highlight of what i saw was What A Wonderful World. stellar rendition and amazing work.

it literally took me halfway through IIWYG before i figured out what the heck they were playing. that's pretty bad, and damn close to embarrasing.

btw - was that john goodman singing Play That Funky Music?


I bet Prince is up CRYING tonight because of your bad experience!!!! lol razz biggrin nuts shocked geek
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Reply #48 posted 07/09/07 12:48am

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PapaSmurf said:

What is this nonsense about "you should expect it" or "get used to it" or "it's prince..." as if any of that makes it ok. lol Some of you are just absolutely crawled up inside Prince's bowels. You would find an excuse for him to spit on your crippled, one-eyed grandma.

Thirty minutes is expected, really. Rarely do shows start on time because its virtually impossible to have every unanticipated kink worked out. Anything more than that is unacceptable, and an hour and a half is just crazy.

Time and time again, Prince shows his fans what he thinks of them. Yet they beg for more. I guess if you like to pay money to get shit on, more power to you. A lot of people have lives outside of Prince's purple fantasy world, lol. I feel bad for the guy above who had to plan his day strategically only to be dicked around by some ego driven celebrity.
[Edited 7/8/07 12:56pm]


Yeah it sucks being "dicked" around by a guy who did 3 killer shows in 1 day.
... 07/07/07 4EVER...
Peace & Love
Jag
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Reply #49 posted 07/09/07 5:46am

VLM123

That was not John Goodman at who was up there singing "Play That funky Music." Goodman looks completely different. That was just a MN resident.
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Reply #50 posted 07/09/07 5:53am

Anxiety

We were in section 138, not terribly far from the floor, and even though I think the acoustics in the Target Center leave a lot to be desired, I didn't have much of a problem hearing the show. I had to strain a little when Prince talked, but the music and the singing were pretty clear for me.

I think that between all the activity of the First Ave line insanity, the Macy's gig and going through the whole day with the most fun group of people ever, I was lucky that I could be in a "hey, whatever's clever" mindset and the late start at the Target Center really wasn't an issue for me. Sure, I bitched a lot about it...but I always bitch a lot about everything. lol

I don't have any issues or complaints about the way any of Saturday's shows were handled. I could have dealt with less songs at the Target Center show that were repeats of what he played at Macy's, but I understand why he did that.
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Reply #51 posted 07/09/07 7:50am

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don't feel bad 4 walking out ..i did during the musicology tour..then again he was playing that song that has overstayed it's welcome ...
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #52 posted 07/09/07 7:56am

Anxiety

admittedly, we did leave a little early in an attempt to beat the maddening crowds to first avenue. we left when they started rocking the shelby showcase. also, i think those of us who left during that were a little too fragile at that point to handle another one of shelby's lovely renditions.
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Reply #53 posted 07/09/07 8:00am

RipHer2Shreds

Anxiety said:

admittedly, we did leave a little early in an attempt to beat the maddening crowds to first avenue. we left when they started rocking the shelby showcase. also, i think those of us who left during that were a little too fragile at that point to handle another one of shelby's lovely renditions.

I don't need to ever hear that illusion coma pimp and circum-broad sing again. She's too much for me.
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Reply #54 posted 07/09/07 8:04am

Anxiety

RipHer2Shreds said:

Anxiety said:

admittedly, we did leave a little early in an attempt to beat the maddening crowds to first avenue. we left when they started rocking the shelby showcase. also, i think those of us who left during that were a little too fragile at that point to handle another one of shelby's lovely renditions.

I don't need to ever hear that illusion coma pimp and circum-broad sing again. She's too much for me.


doesn't she have to watch bullwinkle pull a rabbit out of his hat or something?
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Reply #55 posted 07/09/07 8:08am

RipHer2Shreds

Anxiety said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


I don't need to ever hear that illusion coma pimp and circum-broad sing again. She's too much for me.


doesn't she have to watch bullwinkle pull a rabbit out of his hat or something?

I think she is the rabbit coming out of the hat, and it's a really loud, affected rabbit with a swath of fabric trailing from wrist to wrist.
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Reply #56 posted 07/09/07 8:10am

DarlinLaurie

OmahaVike said:

yes, after paying almost $200 for two seats, we left right after IIWYG. yes, we walked out of the show.

the brass section was phenomenal, but the rest of the show was unbearable. was up in section 210 and couldn't understand/hear squat. anytime P was speaking or singing, we couldn't comprehend anything.

i guess it was partially because of the irresponsible late start (10:00p), partially because of waiting out in the heat, and being 1/4 of a mile away from the stage.

i've seen him 5 times prior, and this is the first time i've walked out on him. our entire weekend was centered around this show, and travel/babysitter/dinner/etc was all timed to the 8:30p start. this was totally uncalled for.

i did like my first introduction to Guitar, so of course i'll buy it when it comes out. highlight of what i saw was What A Wonderful World. stellar rendition and amazing work.

it literally took me halfway through IIWYG before i figured out what the heck they were playing. that's pretty bad, and damn close to embarrasing.

btw - was that john goodman singing Play That Funky Music?



No offense but walking out - bad move. You missed out BIG time. And anyone who has ever gone to see Prince before (ok I guess you need more than 5 times) realizes he never starts on time. That's Prince, if it says 8:30 you know it really means 9:30 in Prince time. wink
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Reply #57 posted 07/09/07 8:11am

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Anxiety said:

also, i think those of us who left during that were a little too fragile at that point to handle another one of shelby's lovely renditions.

i stuck through the whole show at target center but i left first ave. early, just as shelby started up with "love changes". at the main show i was waiting for the woman to just start levitating into the air and fly around with that friggin scarf-thing she always has. lol

as for the main post: meh. you ain't obligated to stay. shrug
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Reply #58 posted 07/09/07 8:26am

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I am in the camp where I thought the show was "average". This mostly I think due to the fact like some, we have seen the hits played so many times over the years. I had sucky seats, so the sound was crap, but knew that going in, but I was more disappointed that he did not play some new stuff. I was so looking forward to hearing Fury or even 3121 live. I understand it's a hard spot for him because at the big shows it's mostly the main stream who want to hear the hits, than there is my crabby butt who wants to hear rare gems. Damn I miss PP dayz:) I would have traded in that Cars cover for Fury any day?

But I do agree, I have never seen so much "buzz" downtown that night, that it almost made up for it. Every bar you went to was playing Prince. Everyone talking (even strangers) on when the last time they saw him, what was the best show etc etc. It was a blast. At one point I was like, "thats right we have a concert to go to" lol

MS

Anxiety said:


I don't have any issues or complaints about the way any of Saturday's shows were handled. I could have dealt with less songs at the Target Center show that were repeats of what he played at Macy's, but I understand why he did that.
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Reply #59 posted 07/09/07 8:40am

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Target Center is horrible for a venue that size. But still, to walk out on Prince, Wow!
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