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Thread started 06/01/07 3:14pm

PositivityNYC

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2day's presale tix on broker sites

today's presale was for Minnesota Timberwolves season ticket holders, & Target Center VIPs (whatever that means lol )
They don't even wanna see Prince; they just want that $$$.. confused


http://www.razorgator.com...=Ascending

At time of post, most expensive (2 tickets):

Section:: FLR1
Row:: 02
Price:: $923.00 each
Subtotal:: $1,846.00
Connection Fee:: $184.60
Your Subtotal is :: $2,030.60
(Your [additional] shipping fees will be calculated at the final step of checkout.)



~ That's a pretty high jump from $262.42 (plus taxes & fees), but, I guess somebody will pay it. hmph!
Even the $31.21 'nosebleed' seats are going for $84-185 each! omfg


Where do the tickets come from?
RazorGator's registered sellers range from [i]season ticket holders
who are unable to attend all the games, to average consumers who purchased tickets to an event but can no longer attend.

What is the connection fee?
At RazorGator, there are no hidden costs -- we inform our clients of all fees up-front. Our connection fee is 10% of the price of your tickets. This fee covers all services required to obtain the tickets from the seller & it is calculated from the market demand price.

Example: If the market demand price for a concert ticket is $100, the 10% connection fee would equal $10.

In addition, once our clients receive a "Connection Confirmation" email, RazorGator backs all tickets purchased with a 100% Guarantee, which ensures the authenticity of all tickets and that you'll receive the tickets you requested in time for the event.

If for any reason the client does not receive the ticket(s) as identified in the Connection Confirmation email, RazorGator will immediately substitute a comparable or better ticket for the same market demand price, or refund the client's money.[/i]

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[Edited 6/1/07 15:32pm]
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Reply #1 posted 06/01/07 8:22pm

bellanoche

eek shake That is a shame! This type of crap should be illegal. If I wanted to sell my tickets for damn near 9 times the amount I would go to jail in Illinois. However, if I pay for a "broker" license and pay taxes on my extorted profits, everything is copasetic. rolleyes
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Reply #2 posted 06/01/07 11:00pm

lovemachine

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bellanoche said:

eek shake That is a shame! This type of crap should be illegal. If I wanted to sell my tickets for damn near 9 times the amount I would go to jail in Illinois. However, if I pay for a "broker" license and pay taxes on my extorted profits, everything is copasetic. rolleyes


Prince is auctioning off the tickets and I bet the front row seats go for around that price. Should this be illegal?

BTW ticket scalping is now LEGAL in Minnesota as it should be. Free market...and you know what... Most of the time you pay LESS then face value if you have patience. My friend got lower level tickets to a Musicology show for $20 by waiting until the show was starting.


I used to go to a million basketball games and I never paid anywhere near face value from the so called scalpers.
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Reply #3 posted 06/02/07 7:27am

bellanoche

lovemachine said:

bellanoche said:

eek shake That is a shame! This type of crap should be illegal. If I wanted to sell my tickets for damn near 9 times the amount I would go to jail in Illinois. However, if I pay for a "broker" license and pay taxes on my extorted profits, everything is copasetic. rolleyes


Prince is auctioning off the tickets and I bet the front row seats go for around that price. Should this be illegal?

BTW ticket scalping is now LEGAL in Minnesota as it should be. Free market...and you know what... Most of the time you pay LESS then face value if you have patience. My friend got lower level tickets to a Musicology show for $20 by waiting until the show was starting.

I used to go to a million basketball games and I never paid anywhere near face value from the so called scalpers.


I still don't agree with scalping, price gouging, extortion, ticket brokering, raping or whatever people want to call it.

If Prince auctions off tickets to his own concert for charity (although 7 percent is a paltry amount to donate to charity) then that is a different situation. TM and the brokers are not doing any work to justify price gouging.

Some people have responsibilities and cannot wait until the last minute to decide to go to a basketball game or concert. So sometimes it's not just about patience. Regardless, this practice is ridiculous. It is one thing to make a profit, but how much is enough? This is a great argument against a free market, because it excludes people who aren't wealthy or willing to go in debt to buy tickets. It also excludes people who have responsibilities and would need to make arrangements before they could buy cheap tickets last minute.

So do you think the $12.85 per ticket that TM charges for "convenience" is justified as well?
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Reply #4 posted 06/02/07 8:30am

PositivityNYC

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that whole ticket broker thing is even weirder with the Auction.. confused

The auctioned seats are rows 1 - 6, and rows 11 - 19
http://www.ticketmaster.c...dp_auction
in both floor sections, either 16 or 18 seats are available per row.
starting @ $150; you have to buy either 2 or 4; no single tix.

So... when we hit Ticketmaster, the only [good] available floor seats will be rows 8, 9 & 10 -? neutral (well, if those weren't sold during the special Target Center presale)

'Prince' seating chart for Target Center (from ticketmaster)
http://www.ticketmaster.c...9298/19219

[Edited 6/2/07 9:23am]
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Reply #5 posted 06/02/07 8:44am

PositivityNYC

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bellanoche said:

lovemachine said:



Prince is auctioning off the tickets and I bet the front row seats go for around that price. Should this be illegal?

BTW ticket scalping is now LEGAL in Minnesota as it should be. Free market...and you know what... Most of the time you pay LESS then face value if you have patience. My friend got lower level tickets to a Musicology show for $20 by waiting until the show was starting.

I used to go to a million basketball games and I never paid anywhere near face value from the so called scalpers.


I still don't agree with scalping, price gouging, extortion, ticket brokering, raping or whatever people want to call it.

If Prince auctions off tickets to his own concert for charity (although 7 percent is a paltry amount to donate to charity) then that is a different situation. TM and the brokers are not doing any work to justify price gouging.

Some people have responsibilities and cannot wait until the last minute to decide to go to a basketball game or concert. So sometimes it's not just about patience. Regardless, this practice is ridiculous. It is one thing to make a profit, but how much is enough? This is a great argument against a free market, because it excludes people who aren't wealthy or willing to go in debt to buy tickets. It also excludes people who have responsibilities and would need to make arrangements before they could buy cheap tickets last minute.

So do you think the $12.85 per ticket that TM charges for "convenience" is justified as well?


Last I heard, it was only the fragrance sales where 7% was being divided among 7 charities chosen by him & the perfume company (not concert tix - but.. maybe they added something -?).
I forget which size bottle - it was in one of the early press releases.
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Reply #6 posted 06/02/07 8:54am

lovemachine

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bellanoche said:

lovemachine said:



Prince is auctioning off the tickets and I bet the front row seats go for around that price. Should this be illegal?

BTW ticket scalping is now LEGAL in Minnesota as it should be. Free market...and you know what... Most of the time you pay LESS then face value if you have patience. My friend got lower level tickets to a Musicology show for $20 by waiting until the show was starting.

I used to go to a million basketball games and I never paid anywhere near face value from the so called scalpers.


I still don't agree with scalping, price gouging, extortion, ticket brokering, raping or whatever people want to call it.

If Prince auctions off tickets to his own concert for charity (although 7 percent is a paltry amount to donate to charity) then that is a different situation. TM and the brokers are not doing any work to justify price gouging.

Some people have responsibilities and cannot wait until the last minute to decide to go to a basketball game or concert. So sometimes it's not just about patience. Regardless, this practice is ridiculous. It is one thing to make a profit, but how much is enough? This is a great argument against a free market, because it excludes people who aren't wealthy or willing to go in debt to buy tickets. It also excludes people who have responsibilities and would need to make arrangements before they could buy cheap tickets last minute.

So do you think the $12.85 per ticket that TM charges for "convenience" is justified as well?


I think it's a lot but there are ways around it. One can buy from the venue and skip the fee. I also don't think $2 for a bottle of water is justified so I don't buy it.

Also, where are you getting the info that the ticket sales are going to chairity.

One last thing life isn't always fair and people don't always get to go to every concert. It's not as if it's some "right" we have. Get over it.
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Reply #7 posted 06/02/07 10:35am

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lovemachine said:

BTW ticket scalping is now LEGAL in Minnesota as it should be.


Not until August 1st. razz
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Reply #8 posted 06/02/07 12:27pm

ClimaxSt

I am considering using them since there was nothing left on TicketMaster today.
[Edited 1/6/09 16:29pm]
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Reply #9 posted 06/02/07 5:15pm

m3taverse

Wait ... the 7/7/07 tickets were sold in an auction?!
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Reply #10 posted 06/02/07 11:41pm

bellanoche

lovemachine said:

bellanoche said:



I still don't agree with scalping, price gouging, extortion, ticket brokering, raping or whatever people want to call it.

If Prince auctions off tickets to his own concert for charity (although 7 percent is a paltry amount to donate to charity) then that is a different situation. TM and the brokers are not doing any work to justify price gouging.

Some people have responsibilities and cannot wait until the last minute to decide to go to a basketball game or concert. So sometimes it's not just about patience. Regardless, this practice is ridiculous. It is one thing to make a profit, but how much is enough? This is a great argument against a free market, because it excludes people who aren't wealthy or willing to go in debt to buy tickets. It also excludes people who have responsibilities and would need to make arrangements before they could buy cheap tickets last minute.

So do you think the $12.85 per ticket that TM charges for "convenience" is justified as well?


I think it's a lot but there are ways around it. One can buy from the venue and skip the fee. I also don't think $2 for a bottle of water is justified so I don't buy it.

Also, where are you getting the info that the ticket sales are going to chairity.

One last thing life isn't always fair and people don't always get to go to every concert. It's not as if it's some "right" we have. Get over it.


There's nothing for me to get over. I've always gone to EVERY event - concert or theatre - I've ever really wanted to go to and have always had good seats. I've never missed a Prince concert/show in Chicago in the last 15 years, since I was old enough to go on my own at 17. I saw two concerts and two aftershows in Vegas in December. And for the record, I already have tickets for the Target Center show and they are VERY good. Additionally, I have a Macy's package on the way, so I actually have two tickets for the Target Center. So, that is not the problem.

Still, the fact remains that a lot of people who want to go to events cannot afford to go. Who said that everyone wants to go to every concert? Furthermore, who stated that it was a "right" for someone to go to a concert? I know the world isn't fair, but is that an excuse or reason to condone ticket scalping? Complacency is as big a shame as scalping in my book. If people don't speak out and act regarding things they don't like, how does change ever come about?

Along with the free market, I have a right to freely express my opinion, which is what I am doing. You have yours and I have mine. However, I respect yours enough to not dismiss it and tell you to "get over it." I simply asked a question for clarification. So you need to "get over" whatever chip you have on your shoulder that leads you to make such an unwarranted snippy reply.


Btw, I misspoke regarding the charity for the concert. I apologize. I don't want to put incorrect info out there.

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/07 10:53pm

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PositivityNYC said:[quote]today's presale was for Minnesota Timberwolves season ticket holders, & Target Center VIPs (whatever that means lol )
They don't even wanna see Prince; they just want that $$$.. confused


http://www.razorgator.com...=Ascending

At time of post, most expensive (2 tickets):

Section:: FLR1
Row:: 02
Price:: $923.00 each
Subtotal:: $1,846.00
Connection Fee:: $184.60
Your Subtotal is :: $2,030.60
(Your [additional] shipping fees will be calculated at the final step of checkout.)



~ That's a pretty high jump from $262.42 (plus taxes & fees), but, I guess somebody will pay it. hmph!
I hate to admit it, but I'm that person lol That's where I'll be sitting 07/07. Purchased them on Friday night. Figured Ticketmaster would only be nosebleed seats anyway.
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Reply #12 posted 06/09/07 11:47pm

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rio85 said:[quote]

PositivityNYC said:

today's presale was for Minnesota Timberwolves season ticket holders, & Target Center VIPs (whatever that means lol )
They don't even wanna see Prince; they just want that $$$.. confused


http://www.razorgator.com...=Ascending

At time of post, most expensive (2 tickets):

Section:: FLR1
Row:: 02
Price:: $923.00 each
Subtotal:: $1,846.00
Connection Fee:: $184.60


Say it like it is BellaNoche! As these ticket Prices are raping us all! & it just sets up the atmosphere for scalping to sell tickets in such manner! & the fact is-if you don't have $$$-you ain't seeing a Prince concert no more! those days are over! The $$$ drives the Business no matter what Prince has to do with it! I guess Music is becoming a thing of the past-as soon we won't be able to afford it-without going to jail! See Ya there K/K! who's gonna get us out??? LOL!
Your Subtotal is :: $2,030.60
(Your [additional] shipping fees will be calculated at the final step of checkout.)



~ That's a pretty high jump from $262.42 (plus taxes & fees), but, I guess somebody will pay it. hmph!
I hate to admit it, but I'm that person lol That's where I'll be sitting 07/07. Purchased them on Friday night. Figured Ticketmaster would only be nosebleed seats anyway.
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