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Map Confussion I'm confused. Ticketmaster and Ticketline's maps are different - one shows the stage pointing one way and one shows it facing the other way. Does anyone know which one is the right one?
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Does it matter? | |
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DOES IT MATTER?! Of course it matters. Prince's performance at the Superbowl on the same stage showed that he will spend most of his time in the centre below the circle where the drumkit and band play, often walking down the arrow, and walks across to face the audience along the sidebar that goes to a thicker end. The other side, the spiral, is too thin for him to spend much time on, and he would have to walk right around the circle to face the audience that way which he is unlikely to do too often.
So the difference between the maps means either you will be watching Prince's back through a drumkit most of the time, or he will be facing you most of the time which is of course much more preferable. I tend to believe (and hope!) the ticketline version since the seating blocks around the stage seem more developed and closer in. But what confusion this could cause people who have identified where their seats are on the two maps, thinking they are facing the 'front' of the stage and then finding out they are in fact facing the 'back'! I could see arguments starting at the misinformation. | |
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I'm expecting the worse.
Got tickets at the back of 110. I'm so confused by where the good seats/bad seats are tha ti've given up on caring. lets just go and have a great time regardless. If your seats are crap just drink more - it the great british way!! p.s i can be relaxed like this as i saw the little man at koko!! "London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"
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Sly said: I'm expecting the worse.
Got tickets at the back of 110. I'm so confused by where the good seats/bad seats are tha ti've given up on caring. lets just go and have a great time regardless. If your seats are crap just drink more - it the great british way!! p.s i can be relaxed like this as i saw the little man at koko!! I AM RELAXED! Okay, maybe not... | |
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i think ticketline has it right, except for the symbol. | |
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HEY....Maybe the stage rotates!! Always cry 4 love never cry 4 pain | |
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Jesus, you've got me all worried. I was all cool about block 108 being face on, now it might be arse on!! Look, the ticketmaster map must be the right way. All the tickets went on sale through them didn't they? I've got to say it IS important which way round the stage is. | |
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machinegun said: i think ticketline has it right, except for the symbol.
What makes you think that? The Ticketline one has had far more effort put into fitting the blocks around the symbol shape, so you would think the artist doing it would have got it right. With the Ticketmaster map, it looks quite amateurish, they've simply pasted a low-res pic of Prince's symbol into the centre - and whoever did that could easily have got it the wrong way around. | |
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Malloy said: Jesus, you've got me all worried. I was all cool about block 108 being face on, now it might be arse on!! Look, the ticketmaster map must be the right way. All the tickets went on sale through them didn't they? I've got to say it IS important which way round the stage is.
agreed it is important, and I think ticketmaster has got the symbol correct, except ticketline has a more accurate overall map, especially the floor seats. I think the symbol is just facing the viewer as such. http://www.ticketline.co....Prince.gif | |
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Guys, the more I think about it, the ticketmaster map must be right. Look at how much of the arena is in front of the arrow in their map. It can't be the other way as most of the audience would be behind him. Right? | |
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metalorange said: machinegun said: i think ticketline has it right, except for the symbol.
What makes you think that? The Ticketline one has had far more effort put into fitting the blocks around the symbol shape, so you would think the artist doing it would have got it right. With the Ticketmaster map, it looks quite amateurish, they've simply pasted a low-res pic of Prince's symbol into the centre - and whoever did that could easily have got it the wrong way around. well all speculation of course, but as you say, the ticketline map is far superior and I would say is correct, but the symbol facing the back? hmmmm not sure at all about that. I think it may just be that when you look at the map, you see the symbol the right way up not taking in to account it's placement in the arena. Farcical lack of explanation either way. | |
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Malloy said: Guys, the more I think about it, the ticketmaster map must be right. Look at how much of the arena is in front of the arrow in their map. It can't be the other way as most of the audience would be behind him. Right?
phew!, i'm in 108 as well. | |
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I can't believe ticketline (if they have got it wrong) have made such a colossal fuck up. A LOT of people are going to be VERY upset when they get to their seats expecting a front view only to be faced with the drummers back! | |
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Sly said: I'm expecting the worse.
Got tickets at the back of 110. I'm so confused by where the good seats/bad seats are tha ti've given up on caring. lets just go and have a great time regardless. If your seats are crap just drink more - it the great british way!! p.s i can be relaxed like this as i saw the little man at koko!! I'm with you on this (although I didn't see him at the Koko). Those paying £250+ for the Gold Circle might find that often, their view of P is restricted by keyboards, drumkits, other performers etc. etc. etc. Those in the lower tiers may be overjoyed that they'll be not far from the stage, only to learn that Prince has his back to them for the most part (can't see it myself - I'd guess he'll know that for a full show, he'll have to move about somewhat). Those in the upper seats may be thrilled that, although they're able to watch his every move, they won't be that close. But they'll ultimately wish that they were a little nearer (like me ) But. . . It's in the round. The venue is an arena, not a stadium. The atmosphere will rock! The fans will be coming 2gether as 1 and whether we're 20ft away from him or 200, we'll all be mesmerised and be sharing an amazing experience! Anybody here who is lucky enough to see him even once during this run should be feeling blessed that they're going to be enjoying something that the majority of Orgers here won't be able to experience, and would kill for right now - even the furthest seats away from the stage would appeal to Orgers who live thousands of miles away from London. The place hasn't even opened yet so I'm guessing that any seating plan we see right now is only an artist's impression and once we start seeing proper photos taken inside the arena, we'll be breathing a sigh of relief that we'll all be getting a pretty good view of the show wherever we're sat. We're gonna be able to experience a Prince concert. For some, it'll be the first time, for some it'll be a long time since the last and for some, it'll be something that they've done recently, but can't get enough of. Wherever we're sat, whatever our visual memory of it is, the 'experience' will be one to remember! No matter where you're sat, when we're all Whooo hooo hoo hooo-ing to Purple Rain, let's all ensure that we think of each other and be glad that we're all part of the joy that is Prince fandom! Dammit, I love the way red wine makes me go all optimistic. | |
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Haystack said: Sly said: I'm expecting the worse.
Got tickets at the back of 110. I'm so confused by where the good seats/bad seats are tha ti've given up on caring. lets just go and have a great time regardless. If your seats are crap just drink more - it the great british way!! p.s i can be relaxed like this as i saw the little man at koko!! I'm with you on this (although I didn't see him at the Koko). Those paying £250+ for the Gold Circle might find that often, their view of P is restricted by keyboards, drumkits, other performers etc. etc. etc. Those in the lower tiers may be overjoyed that they'll be not far from the stage, only to learn that Prince has his back to them for the most part (can't see it myself - I'd guess he'll know that for a full show, he'll have to move about somewhat). Those in the upper seats may be thrilled that, although they're able to watch his every move, they won't be that close. But they'll ultimately wish that they were a little nearer (like me ) But. . . It's in the round. The venue is an arena, not a stadium. The atmosphere will rock! The fans will be coming 2gether as 1 and whether we're 20ft away from him or 200, we'll all be mesmerised and be sharing an amazing experience! Anybody here who is lucky enough to see him even once during this run should be feeling blessed that they're going to be enjoying something that the majority of Orgers here won't be able to experience, and would kill for right now - even the furthest seats away from the stage would appeal to Orgers who live thousands of miles away from London. The place hasn't even opened yet so I'm guessing that any seating plan we see right now is only an artist's impression and once we start seeing proper photos taken inside the arena, we'll be breathing a sigh of relief that we'll all be getting a pretty good view of the show wherever we're sat. We're gonna be able to experience a Prince concert. For some, it'll be the first time, for some it'll be a long time since the last and for some, it'll be something that they've done recently, but can't get enough of. Wherever we're sat, whatever our visual memory of it is, the 'experience' will be one to remember! No matter where you're sat, when we're all Whooo hooo hoo hooo-ing to Purple Rain, let's all ensure that we think of each other and be glad that we're all part of the joy that is Prince fandom! Dammit, I love the way red wine makes me go all optimistic. Mate, you fucking rock. Everyone should be made to drink a couple of glasses of red wine a day. We all natrually get anxious about seating, but once you've got your tickets you're better off sitting back and looking forward to the gig. "London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"
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Well I got a reply back from the Ticketline company about which way around the stage is on their map:
This plan was provided to us by the promoters. As far as we know the symbol is there just to show where the stage is so it doesn't matter which way round it is as both plans show that this is where the stage is situated. In other words, as far as they are concerned, the symbol is just representative of where Prince will be performing. Or to put it another way, the stage could be any way around, Prince's people haven't made it clear to them. Though most fans will have seen the Superbowl stage and drawn the conclusion he is bringing that stage to the O2. I suppose there is always the chance he isn't bringing that stage at all, either bringing a new stage or the old Musicology cross shaped one... I doubt it though. I'm still waiting to hear what Ticketmaster have to say on the matter! | |
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They're not going to have the stage facing 6 blocks of floor seats and the smallest section of the lower tier.
That way, the entire upper tier section, as well as the majority of the rest of the arena would be seeing the back of him - nobody sets up a stage like that. | |
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ComaWhite said: sets up a stage like that.
Prince would http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more. | |
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I have been to about 14 concerts and aftershows. I have been a fan for many years. As Prince said in one of his songs "Never been a good seat at any of this man's shows" (hope my quote is correct!!) meaning he can't win. We can't all have the best seats but if you haven't been to a concert before, believe me you'll get carried away by the atmosphere. No one will know until they get to the venue what their seats are like because the venue is so new. I can't wait and intend to enjoy each of the concerts I have got tickets for. Hope you all do the same and have a great time. | |
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In the round - "Every seat is an average seat". | |
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does any know where that link to the Canadian show went to.. it had the same floor layout ! but with the love symbol in the right place .
best thing to do is go to 4 shows.. N E W S... - 111 - 107 - 115 - 102 -..thats where I'll be.. then floor seats for 21st sept.. if that is the last night.. Gx [Edited 5/16/07 6:08am] | |
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gazzlornie said: does any know where that link to the Canadian show went to.. it had the same floor layout ! but with the love symbol in the right place .
best thing to do is go to 4 shows.. N E W S... - 111 - 107 - 115 - 102 -..thats where I'll be.. then floor seats for 21st sept.. if that is the last night.. Gx [Edited 5/16/07 6:08am] Shit, those are some good seats. What makes you think there's a show on the 21st september? "London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"
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leaked TM info from last week had 5 more dates 20/21 sept being the last ones..
15 already confirmed so 6 more to come to make 21 London shows. Gx | |
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gazzlornie said: leaked TM info from last week had 5 more dates 20/21 sept being the last ones..
15 already confirmed so 6 more to come to make 21 London shows. Gx genius - thanks! "London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"
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spud80 said: I have been to about 14 concerts and aftershows. I have been a fan for many years. As Prince said in one of his songs "Never been a good seat at any of this man's shows" (hope my quote is correct!!) meaning he can't win. We can't all have the best seats but if you haven't been to a concert before, believe me you'll get carried away by the atmosphere. No one will know until they get to the venue what their seats are like because the venue is so new. I can't wait and intend to enjoy each of the concerts I have got tickets for. Hope you all do the same and have a great time.
The venue is new, yes, but it isn't too hard to work out from the seating maps what sort of view you are going to get. Prince simply can't face each direction simultaneously (well unless there are going to be video screens above the stage - which is a strong possibility though not guaranteed - and in the past I have found the quality of Prince's video screens to be quite woeful actually). At least with a standard stage-at-one-end set-up you only have the problem of being close-up or far-away - with a stage in the round you have the added problem of the artist not even facing you much of the time. And with Prince's symbol stage clearly it is unfavourable to be behind the 'O' since you will be behind the drumkit and watching Prince's back most of the time, as he clearly favours facing towards the point of the arrow. Put it this way, great atmosphere or not, it would be strange to watch an entire concert with the band facing away from you. I'm sure Prince will work the stage as much as possible, but I just feel concerts in-the-round don't work as well as the standard set-up. Prince has of course only done 2 tours in the round before - the Lovesexy tour, and the Musicology tour. Certainly I remember many fans posted being disgruntled that they had close-up floor seats on the Musicology tour only to find their view obstructed by the drum-kit. I fully intend to enjoy the concerts as much as possible - but there's no denying great seats greatly enhance the experience whatever show you are attending - and in this case it is really important to know which way the symbol stage faces if he in fact does use such a stage. | |
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I've just received another email from Ticketline. They have checked the original plan sent to them by the promoters and it is the same as Ticketmaster's, so it seems their art department has screwed up re-drawing the plan or something. So it seems the way it is set-up on the Ticketmaster diagram is likely to be correct (even though the symbol is incorrectly mirrored left-to-right still!) which does make sense as it then points towards the bulk of the seat blocks. It also means I'm likely to be watching Prince from the rear for most of the night, bah! | |
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metalorange said: I've just received another email from Ticketline. They have checked the original plan sent to them by the promoters and it is the same as Ticketmaster's, so it seems their art department has screwed up re-drawing the plan or something. So it seems the way it is set-up on the Ticketmaster diagram is likely to be correct (even though the symbol is incorrectly mirrored left-to-right still!) which does make sense as it then points towards the bulk of the seat blocks. It also means I'm likely to be watching Prince from the rear for most of the night, bah!
hang on, with ticketmaster isn't left to right correct already? From reading your email, I thought ticketline got the arrow wrong (which makes sense to me) but their art department have done a better job of where all the blocks are located, but their symbol is right to left which must be the wrong one. | |
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Haystack said: Sly said: I'm expecting the worse.
Got tickets at the back of 110. I'm so confused by where the good seats/bad seats are tha ti've given up on caring. lets just go and have a great time regardless. If your seats are crap just drink more - it the great british way!! p.s i can be relaxed like this as i saw the little man at koko!! I'm with you on this (although I didn't see him at the Koko). Those paying £250+ for the Gold Circle might find that often, their view of P is restricted by keyboards, drumkits, other performers etc. etc. etc. Those in the lower tiers may be overjoyed that they'll be not far from the stage, only to learn that Prince has his back to them for the most part (can't see it myself - I'd guess he'll know that for a full show, he'll have to move about somewhat). Those in the upper seats may be thrilled that, although they're able to watch his every move, they won't be that close. But they'll ultimately wish that they were a little nearer (like me ) But. . . It's in the round. The venue is an arena, not a stadium. The atmosphere will rock! The fans will be coming 2gether as 1 and whether we're 20ft away from him or 200, we'll all be mesmerised and be sharing an amazing experience! Anybody here who is lucky enough to see him even once during this run should be feeling blessed that they're going to be enjoying something that the majority of Orgers here won't be able to experience, and would kill for right now - even the furthest seats away from the stage would appeal to Orgers who live thousands of miles away from London. The place hasn't even opened yet so I'm guessing that any seating plan we see right now is only an artist's impression and once we start seeing proper photos taken inside the arena, we'll be breathing a sigh of relief that we'll all be getting a pretty good view of the show wherever we're sat. We're gonna be able to experience a Prince concert. For some, it'll be the first time, for some it'll be a long time since the last and for some, it'll be something that they've done recently, but can't get enough of. Wherever we're sat, whatever our visual memory of it is, the 'experience' will be one to remember! No matter where you're sat, when we're all Whooo hooo hoo hooo-ing to Purple Rain, let's all ensure that we think of each other and be glad that we're all part of the joy that is Prince fandom! Dammit, I love the way red wine makes me go all optimistic. am with u on that one, i bought the gold circle seat then got a refund cause the clearly don't know the plan for the stage or the floor seating yet, so i will be gettin funkin mostly in the top tier, MACEO MACEO | |
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machinegun said: metalorange said: (even though the symbol is incorrectly mirrored left-to-right still!)
hang on, with ticketmaster isn't left to right correct already? From reading your email, I thought ticketline got the arrow wrong (which makes sense to me) but their art department have done a better job of where all the blocks are located, but their symbol is right to left which must be the wrong one. Ticketline appears to be wrong in the sense it is facing 180 degrees the wrong way, but they got the actual symbol correct with the spiral arm on the left. On Ticketmaster's diagram above, the spiral is on the wrong side (if you were looking at the symbol the right way up rather than lying on it's side, if you understand what I'm saying). The spiral should always be on the left. I also got this response from Ticketmaster regarding the seating map: We sell most of the tickets for this venue so I would expect our plan to be the most up to date. However, all seating plans only reflect the general layout of the arena at the current time. Specific seat locations and stage position are liable to change without notice. It may be that the exact configuration of the arena is not known until the act's production team comes to set up their equipment for the event. [Edited 5/17/07 9:35am] | |
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