Swinger said:

Where did you see him play Swinger? I saw him earlier on in his tour in Detroit and wasn't at all dissatisfied. He played exquisitely. The reviews were excellent then too--go back and read them again. Sounds like either you didn't attend the show in body or spirit, or that you didn't get a soundcheck and you're taking it personally. Stop whining, you candy-ass bitch, it's not attractive People act like $100 should buy them the moon-it's not that much money, people! Better seats, soundchecks, aftershow access/entrance and 4CDs is a great deal so please stop bitching so much about your damn $100! And Europeans--unless you know otherwise, don't assume you're not going to get a tour just because it didn't happen last time. No one is forced to join, you're gonna have to roll the dice a little--life is dangerous, "live" a little! Or don't join the club until his dates in/near your country are confirmed or unless you're willing to take the chance and settle for 4 CDs.

I'll bet it was a KODAK momento too.....thank you for the report!




Peace & Love

AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said:

Back off, asswipe, you ain't cute

If you paid for $100 for a membership and didn't get a single benefit from that membership you'd be bitching too.


Prince

Swinger said:

Au contraire, even when wiping my ass I am damn cute!!! I paid $100 for my membership. I got 10th row seats in Detroit. I got into the soundcheck. Eventually I will get my CDs. There was no Aftershow in Detroit, but I'm not kicking up a fuss because I knew that was a possibility. Let's hear your sob story Swinger,what exactly did you NOT get?

I still have no voice after going to the Friday after-show and Saturday IN THE FRONT ROW!!! It was the most amazing experience I've ever had... All because of NPGMC!!! Thanks to All..
I heard that Paula Abdul was in the front row at the after-show at the Highlands, kinda tipsy.... How cool is that???
[This message was edited Mon Apr 22 8:43:00 PDT 2002 by KatFish]

KatFish said:

Too much red kool-aid with your catfish dinner, eh?

AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said:

No long sob story for your entertainment here. Same experience as others early in the tour who paid for membership and didn't get good seats, no soundcheck or aftershow. Prince is a thief. End of story.


Prince

Swinger said:[quote]AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said:[quote]No long sob story for your entertainment here. Same experience as others early in the tour who paid for membership and didn't get good seats, no soundcheck or aftershow. Prince is a thief. End of story.

Everyone paid their 100 dollars for the club knowing they'd get 4 cd's. That was most of the info. Everything else is just gravy..it is not gauranteed that there is a soundcheck..but they are making sure memebrs get pre sale tix which with this new system has worked fine for members for the most part. I havent heard of any members not geting first dibs at tix. If I was not a member I would not have been as close as I was. The aftershows and soundchecks like I said, are "extras". Whomever paid for the club to get 4 cd's that was stipulated from jump street. That goes for all other countries as well. You know Prince and you know he may not tour in parts foreign etc...in essence "you knew the job was tough when ya took it"-Superchicken.

Swinger said:
Hey, I know it's not guaranteed.

Ok--then stop right there.

But where the fuck does he get off charging everybody the same money and then giving some people half as much as others when we all paid the same?


He hasnt given anyone half as much anything..he has given soundchecks and aftershows. You paid the same for the basics. Why cant we just dance?

Swinger said:

if i were you..and if i felt prince had stolen anything i would go thru the proper channels and get my $100 back...rather than continue complaining about it on an unnofficial message board...by the way, tho there was no soundcheck in dallas he more than made up for it at the aftershow performance...and i don't think there have been any cities where they've played and had no soundcheck or aftershow...i believe you're misinformed there...

by the way, rdhull, good review..glad you had a good time...sorry people are trying to take away from it with the usual prince bashing...

rio said:

The NPGMC employees READ this message board. I repeat:

THERE ARE TWO CITIES ON THIS TOUR WHICH DID NOT GET AFTERSHOWS AND ALSO GOT THEIR SOUNDCHECK CANCELLED.

Most cities are getting either both a soundcheck and aftershow or, they are getting at least -- a soundcheck OR an aftershow. EXCEPT FOR AT LEAST TWO CITIES. WHICH GOT NEITHER.

***THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO CITIES ON THIS TOUR WHERE MEMBERS PAID THE SAME AMOUNT AS OTHER MEMBERS AND STILL DID NOT GET AFTERSHOWS OR SOUNDCHECKS.***

If you have a right to say what you want about this tour, I have the right to say what I want to say as well.

rdhull said:[quote]Swinger said:[quote]

AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said:

HELLO? ANYBODY HOME?

This new system was not in place until members in some cities ended up in row 20 or the balcony. These members paid for preferred seating and didn't get it. And to top it off, Prince didn't even try to make it up to them by giving them a nice soundcheck or aftershow.

If you think I'm going to sit quietly and act like everything on this tour is hunky dory and Prince is giving everybody gravy or something extra, think again.


Prince

Swinger said:

So...you're saying that you're posting on here so that the NPGMC can read your complaints...but you WON'T simply email them trying to get your $$$ back??...Yep, Rio's right...you simply wanna bitch and attach your complaints onto other people's threads...give it a rest, Swinger...if you're THAT positive that Prince is a "thief, pure and simple", then DO something about it beyond babbling on and on here...nothing more irritating than someone who will bitch for no fucking reason whatsoever other THAN to bitch...


Yep, that sounds like a thief to me, yessir...Prince says there's no guarantee that there will be either sound checks or aftershows, people join up anyways, and he pretty much delivers on 95% of the tour stops...classic definition of "thief" to me...


Wrong...there are AT MOST two cities on this tour where sound checks and aftershows were not part of the proceedings--JUST AS FUCKING ADVERTISED ON THE FUCKING NPGMC SITE WHEN YOU FUCKING JOIN!!!....if THAT was gonna piss you off, then why join??...don't get mad at Prince for your own stupidity...

Swinger said:

Wrong again, bucko...lol..NOBODY PAID for "preferred seating" when the tour started...they paid for ADVANCE SALE OF TICKETS...granted, with that you'd expect to GET preferred seating, but the npgmc did NOT have control over what seats would be available, they only had control over WHEN club members would be able to buy the best seats available...they changed how the presale worked after hearing complaints, which should be praised instead of faulted(go look up what the word "praise" means, and get back to me)...


That's cuz it was NOT their fault!!...not to mention that doing aftershows often are NOT "spur of the moment" things that they do simply to "make it up" to members...damn, I thought we already had our run of whiny club members...guess I was wrong...

rio said
if i were you..and if i felt prince had stolen anything i would go thru the proper channels and get my $100 back...rather than continue complaining about it on an unnofficial message board...by the way, tho there was no soundcheck in dallas he more than made up for it at the aftershow performance...and i don't think there have been any cities where they've played and had no soundcheck or aftershow...i believe you're misinformed there...

by the way, rdhull, good review..glad you had a good time...sorry people are trying to take away from it with the usual prince bashing...[/quote]

Thanks Rio...the people..err..person.. complaining cant dampen my Prince concert cipher hehe.

Swinger said:[quote]rdhull said:[quote]Swinger said:[quote]

AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said:

HELLO? ANYBODY HOME?

This new system was not in place until members in some cities ended up in row 20 or the balcony. These members paid for preferred seating and didn't get it. And to top it off, Prince didn't even try to make it up to them by giving them a nice soundcheck or aftershow.

Wait--you ask me if anyone is home still complaining about the supposed imperfect ticket system and aftershow soundcheck problems for what--two cities? Look at my post you just quoted where I said this system has worked well "for the most part". And some soundchecks werent able to happen because equipment etc arrived late.So my shiot is covered. Do you want me to send you 50 bucks to make up half your membership ( if you even are a member which I hope you are with all the fussin) to make it all better lol?



If you think I'm going to sit quietly and act like everything on this tour is hunky dory and Prince is giving everybody gravy or something extra, think again.

LOL--Classic...I dont care what you do...you can go along competing for the role of Bart Jr. all you want.Go head with yur bad self and your vendetta. Besides know this...I had to pay 3 dollars for a Twix candy bar so I DESERVED a soundcheck AND an aftershow that I didnt get to see because of traffic conditions. "That Prince--had to have an aftershow where I couldnt park my car..I want a refund!" But do you see me complaining? What you need to do is think about twix bars being so much at the venue and why when everyone sits down theres always two people who cant see weveryonwe is sitting so they stay standing blocking the view..those things are what are impotent--I mean important.
You ask me if anyone is home? LOL.

Swinger said
The NPGMC employees READ this message board. I repeat:

THERE ARE TWO CITIES ON THIS TOUR WHICH DID NOT GET AFTERSHOWS AND ALSO GOT THEIR SOUNDCHECK CANCELLED.

Most cities are getting either both a soundcheck and aftershow or, they are getting at least -- a soundcheck OR an aftershow. EXCEPT FOR AT LEAST TWO CITIES. WHICH GOT NEITHER.

***THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO CITIES ON THIS TOUR WHERE MEMBERS PAID THE SAME AMOUNT AS OTHER MEMBERS AND STILL DID NOT GET AFTERSHOWS OR SOUNDCHECKS.***

If you have a right to say what you want about this tour, I have the right to say what I want to say as well.[/quote]


But daddy--I want an ooompa loompa NOWWWWW!!!!

I like Everlasting Gob Stoppers!

Look, every last one of you STANK BITCHES can kiss my ASS. If you traveled and paid your hard earned money, you expect to get something for your damned MONEY.

ALL OF YOU HO'S

Lovely.





Somebody pass the Everlasting Gob Stoppers.

rdhull said:

Ain't it the truth

Swinger said:

How hard is it to grab the concept of an aftershow?? It is an AFTERshow...i.e, AFTER the show you paid for. It is not included in the ticket price you paid, and not guaranteed. And on top of that, if you traveled (what, did you buy a plane ticket or something?) that is not the NPGMC's fault that you decided to take on that extra expense. Now stop whining, please...what, are you five years old?

BlueAgave said:

Look, get back to me after you pay $100 for club memberships, $125 per concert ticket, plus a couple hundred on travel and hotel expenses, and then you get ZERO of the extras that others are getting on this tour.

Until you have lost money on Prince's bullshit in this way, you have NOTHING to say to me. Get out of my face and I will continue to vent my anger about this for as long as I need to.


Prince

Swinger said:

Okay, I DID pay my $100 membership and I did pay $125 for my ticket, so I'ma gettin' back to you. As for the travel expenses...maybe you should have told Prince that you bought plane tickets and accomodations and then he would have cancelled any other plans to hold a special jam session in your room at the Motel 6. Get a grip. The travel expenses are all you. If you took it upon yourself to pay this extra money, then it was a gamble you took. You win some, you lose some.

I think Swinger has lost [b]some[b] more than others. I'm talkin life in general here.

bkw said:

You've got a helluva nerve! You've been on here begging for Prince to come your way for years! You can't afford to travel to see him!

I earn over $55,000 a year, chump.


Prince

Swinger said:[quote]rdhull said:[quote]

Swinger said:

Hey i was at the first show and lemme tell ya there were no bug, kinks or anything else to workout. yeah there are different tunes added along the way BUT i got to see the show as a total surprize, no setlist to upset that thill of hearing OtherSideOfthePillow,Dayum and the way RBC sounded live at that first show. i loved that show, now if i can find a way to get to see the last show that would be great.

Swinger said:

Here's the only question and answer that really matters: Swinger, did you read the NPGMC conditions before you joined? Any other question is very much beside the point.

BlueAgave said:

YOU might have to stay in Motel 6 when you travel, but I don't.

I don't have to justify my opinion or explain myself to you or anybody else. Mind your own business and back off of mine.


Prince

AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said:

Why are you asking this same question again? I already answered this same question from you on a different thread.


Prince