Having a new band every two years sucks. This band has no personality and they'll be gone next tour anyway so you can't get attached to them.

ol...I keep hearing some people say things like "There's a world outside of Prince...he's not the be-all and end-all,

well

welcome to the bitching moron's thread

ya'll need to shut the fuck up


- seriously .....


and OP glad to hear you leaving -
good riddance to bad rubbish - is that how it goes ?
we don't need your negative shit on here

and yes I had a fucking bad day ! I come on here to read what's going on with Prince not some retards' whining that he was bored .....

I hate to agree, but I can see where you're coming from...I think that it's disgusting to charge $100 bucks for a premium membership all under the guise of giving your "fans" something "special", yet, in addition to the $100 bucks, they also have to pay for the seats, and worse still, they have to fight for the seats like a bunch of animals? One thing I hate about celeberties is that they seem to forget that if WE, THE FANS, weren't taking our hard earned money that would have been better spent on something else instead putting it into their pockets, they wouldn't be where they are...what good is good music if there's no one buying it? If that's the only reason most people have for getting in the industry nowadays, why would anyone not want to be paid?

FunkyStrange said:

LMAO

A lot of you won't agree with this report, but it's the way I feel. I've been a Prince fan for along time, spending loads of money for flashes of brilliance. I've finally kicked the habit after seeing the NYC soundcheck, the show and the aftershow. He's lost it. I'll try to break this down into what I liked first and what finally caused me to realize he ain't what he used to be and why I feel he's milking his true fans dry of cash.

Here's what I liked-

Soundcheck- had a casual vibe, Power Fantastic and Extraordinary were great.

The show- Great guitar playing, Loved the piano medley, 1+1, Love Rollercoaster and Anna Stesia

Aftershow- Loved Joy in Repetition and 777.

What really pissed me off (in no particular order)

Spent $100 for the club and $150 for the "ticket" and still had to stress about getting in line early, waited for over 3 hours just to get in and scrambling for a seat. There was no chance of getting food because you would lose your place. By the time I got in, the middle seats of the first 20 rows were taken so I had to sit on the side. Some members had to sit way in the corner, sure they were in the 3rd row, but behind the speaker with obstructed views.

Prince's attitude at soundcheck was OK, but he had his typical wiseass behavior when he told people "they were late" as they came in. These are his fans that paid $100 to be in his club and just waited outside in the rain for at least 3 hours to get in and he says "they're late?" Then he goes and sits in the seats in the back and sings from there. He says he doesn't cuss anymore and asks us if we do. He said anyone who does cuss has turets. First of all what if I did have turets or someone I knew did. It ain't funny to pick on the handicapped. Second of all, Prince is the one who TAUGHT ME how to cuss and to be free and also LOVE GOD but it was OK TO HAVE SEX. Now he's saying I can't do that anymore? Fuck him.


The show was terribly paced. He would get a groove going with 1+1 and Love Rollercoaster and then lose it. When he did play any old songs they were the most overplayed boring songs of his career- Rasberry beret and Take Me With U? Why!? He attempted to play jazz and ended up really making me appreciate Santana and Herbie Hancock. As usual he featured Maceo way too much and brought out Larry Graham for another way too long Sly song for the oldies crowd. I won't even get into the Lincoln thing or the videos of planes. That's been discussed. All I know is I met some wonderful funny people in line who happened to be black, and Prince had to remind us that according to him we are still "seperate." His "joke" about "If your'e a giver then give up your seat" to the girl in the front row who had obviously been outside in line since 9am wasn't funny. She should receive nothing but respect from Prince not some sarcastic joke. Prince did his speech during Purple Rain how no New Yorkers had read the Scripture before 9/11 and now they do, he was sort of saying "I told ya so." Yea blame the victims. Real nice.

Here's the clincher that really did it for me that I thought was just WRONG- He started playing Anna Stesia and said it was a song we needed to hear during the turbulent times. I totally agreed and I love the song. About half way through Prince tells all the club members to raise their hands. He says to "put our hands out" and says that from no on all the good seats will be given to club members only and told everyone if they wanted good seats they had to join the club. This really pissed me off. During such an emotional and spriritual song Prince is trying to make money and using us. I felt like he was Pat Robertson on the 700 club. "Dig deep into your pockets and give me your money!" The NPG club web site was also on the screen. Very tacky.

After waiting in the rain in line for another 2 1/2 hours the club members were let in. What we heard was yet another playing of Alphabet Street, Joy In Repetition, Extraordinary- all which were played at soundcheck hours before. Then he went into a half hour jam with Pass the Peas (again!) and a lame Doug E fresh lame rap and more jamming with Larry and Geroge Clinton who was as high as a kite and couldn't get the braids out of his face. He did end strong with Musiq doing SLy's "If You Want Me to Stay" and Alicia I guess was OK, although I'm sick of the song I've heard it since it came out around 1983 and he also played this at the show that night and many tours prior.

After this experience my "Prince habit" is kicked. He doesn't dance anymore,whcih I didn't think I would miss, but I really do, he has lost most of his sex appeal much like Al Green did when he became a preacher. I thought I would like this, but I guess that a lot of what I liked about Prince was Dance, Music, Sex and Romance. All we got was lots of guitar solos and too much horn playing. He's forgotten about his many other performing talents. He also insists on preaching his way or the highway and jamming with the oldies of Maceo and Larry. The best songs of the set were from the 80's and early 90's. Think about what the crowd went nuts for- When U Were Mine, How Come U Don't Call Me, Joy In Repetition, Strange Relationship, Anna Stesia, Rasberry Beret, and the entire piano medley were all old songs, nothing from the early 90's on. He's over in my opinion and I won't be spending any more money on the man until he gets his shit together, but I think it's too late.

Wow I'm glad that's off my chest. If someone told me I could get to go see Prince soundcheck and perform from the 10th row and go to an aftershow and be in the second row I could die happy. The reality was that I was actually a little bored. It took me $300 for tickets and $100 for membership and a full 12 hours of hanging with Prince to finally realize that Prince's glory days are over, he's ripping his true fans off and he just ain't that great anymore. Sorry that's just my opinion, like to hear if any of you agree even a little. I'll still be posting on the org as a fan, but my habit is kicked and I am not spending anymore cash on this ungrateful, egotistical little twerp.

By the way, I've wanted to get this off my chest: I find it incredibly hypocritical of Prince to preach about unity and love4oneanother and at the same time make incredibly divisive comments about race. For instance, the whole rant before Family Name and in general his posturing as a victim. This is what really sickens me about Prince these days--that he's a poor black victim of evil corporations run by white men. Bullshit. Prince, you are no victim--the only reason your album sales and radio exposure are so anemic is because your artistry has dropped multiple orders of magnitude. Your output for the last 10 years is all tossed-off hackwork. I can't remember the last well-crafted tune you wrote, something with both musical and lyrical consistency. How I long for the day when you had credibility on the race issue and were an enlightening and unifying force: "Black, white, Puerto Rican, everybody just a freakin' . . . " THAT was unifying, THAT was fresh, THAT moved both our feet and our spirits. Prince, you are a lame race-baiter ala Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. SHAME ON YOU.

This is maybe the best thread I've come across so far on the org; in part, yes, because I have similar feelings to those expressed by DMSR.

Prince should shut the fuck up about religion and cursing. This is what is really pissing people off. We always knew he was and odd duck, but lately all this religious crap and holier than thou attitude from him is turning people off. The music is still the best, but his attitude sucks.

mltijchr said:

Odd I thought DMSR was taking about his specific and very recent concert experience. While I enjoyed reading your life history as a Prince fan (even agreeing with you on some points), I'm totally lost on how this is relevant unless you were also disillusioned by the ONA tour


WOW dig that...
.... ONA tour.

Dropping the first O and the ur then push what's left together spells "NAto".
We all know what that is backwards!!

I find it so odd that some fans just can't imagine him doing any wrong !
I guess it's like Michael Jackson fans that won't admit there was anything suspicious going on with that boy.
Prince has said and done some stupid things, admit it to yourselves !! PLEASE !

By the way, I've wanted to get this off my chest: I find it incredibly hypocritical of Prince to preach about unity and love4oneanother and at the same time make incredibly divisive comments about race. For instance, the whole rant before Family Name and in general his posturing as a victim. This is what really sickens me about Prince these days--that he's a poor black victim of evil corporations run by white men. Bullshit. Prince, you are no victim--the only reason your album sales and radio exposure are so anemic is because your artistry has dropped multiple orders of magnitude. Your output for the last 10 years is all tossed-off hackwork. I can't remember the last well-crafted tune you wrote, something with both musical and lyrical consistency. How I long for the day when you had credibility on the race issue and were an enlightening and unifying force: "Black, white, Puerto Rican, everybody just a freakin' . . . " THAT was unifying, THAT was fresh, THAT moved both our feet and our spirits. Prince, you are a lame race-baiter ala Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. SHAME ON YOU.

the one who expects nothing is never disappointed

Oh, and get outta my way when he comes to town. I'll be there until he does something really worth whining about - polka music or Gregorian chants.
[This message was edited Thu Apr 11 10:56:39 PDT 2002 by MKevon]

DMSR said:

I love the fact that you complain because Prince has the nerve to practice songs at a soundcheck that he might want to play at the aftershow. Doesn't he know what a soundcheck is? It's supposed to be when he plays all the songs that he has no intention of ever playing live! That way, the band can learn them for absolutely no reason. Man, it must have sucked to hear yet another live version of Extraordinary! That song has really been played to death. During the aftershow, he should have said "this ain't 1996, if you came to get your Extraordinary on, you better hit the door!"

well it means more stuff for me in the sense that if there is one less fan then there is one less person i have to compete with for seats, merchandise, etc. - i thought that would be ovious but i guess i have to spell it all out.