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Reply #30 posted 04/10/02 7:09am

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Reply #31 posted 04/10/02 7:22am

dendmmr

IrishEcho said:

The soundcheck/rehearsal:
Power Fantastic was the next track (Prince sang & didn't play anything during this song) and this was kind of a surprise for everyone.


Hey !!! Thanks for the review ! How did Power Fantastic sound ?

I hope he adds this to the set list soon and we get a great bootleg of it smile
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Reply #32 posted 04/10/02 7:28am

abbstrack

DrD said:

How was the Jam with Questlove ? I mean how was the feeling between them, given all this tension there has been over the past year or two ? I love ? so much!

Thanks.



i was watching that closely, and i was looking to see if there was any tension..didnt appear to be any..i noticed prince turned around and even smiled when he saw ?uest on the drums..to be honest, i think the tension is a bit overplayed..i think ?uest idolizes prince...i could see from my seat in the concert that he was giddy as hell to be watching prince perform

perhaps they'll make music together finally, it would be a treat for us all
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Reply #33 posted 04/10/02 7:28am

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Irish, it's how you SELECT and REFLECT upon the facts that is crucial. It is impossible to merely report the facts because facts are not 'out there'. Everything is how we perceive and interpret it.

Therefore, I'd draw attention to the fact that you seemed to focus so much on complaining about things ancillary to the concert such as people's littering habits. I suppose that flavoured the character of your report as something a bit whingey.

I'm not looking for a bewildered "fam" report and to your credit, you did post a straightforward and detailed account of the night and you have my thanks for that.
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Reply #34 posted 04/10/02 7:32am

IrishEcho

gubbins4ever said:

Irish, it's how you SELECT and REFLECT upon the facts that is crucial. It is impossible to merely report the facts because facts are not 'out there'. Everything is how we perceive and interpret it.

Therefore, I'd draw attention to the fact that you seemed to focus so much on complaining about things ancillary to the concert such as people's littering habits. I suppose that flavoured the character of your report as something a bit whingey.

I'm not looking for a bewildered "fam" report and to your credit, you did post a straightforward and detailed account of the night and you have my thanks for that.


Get a grip, you windbag. What time you must have if you choose to spend it criticizing someone's report of a concert. There's nothing "crucial" here. This is a fan site & I posted a recap of events at his concert. All of which happened. Were they not facts? Were you in favor of the people that cut in line or dumped their trash outside? That's wonderful for you. Should I have highlighted that experience in a rainbow font? Or perhaps different colors to express my joy? I don't care what you're looking for. You got what I posted. I won't be the last to post my thoughts on this show, I'm sure, so let's hope you get the crucial bits of information you desire.
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Reply #35 posted 04/10/02 7:32am

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two things... first off, is greg boyer related to boni? sorry if it's addressed, but couldn't help but notice the same last name.

second, hopefully, ?uestlove (that piece of overrated shit) and prince have put their differences between them aside. i was really getting sick of hearing them name-check/diss each other.
now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
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Reply #36 posted 04/10/02 7:35am

KingOfNYC

the afterparty had qtip, maceo, candy, alicia key, doug e fresh, and george clinton. the highlight was duet of HCUDCMA w. alicia key. too tired to give details it was off the hook.
The set included not in that order:
the ride
Alphabet street
Power fantastic
Extraordinary
Joy n repetition
talking loud n saing nothing w/ larry g
how com you don't call... (w/ alicia)
2 too many doug e fresh interventions
solo by candy
g.clinton usual funky stuff
q tip's last hit (can't remember title)
peach
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Reply #37 posted 04/10/02 7:37am

IrishEcho

SleezyG said:

two things... first off, is greg boyer related to boni? sorry if it's addressed, but couldn't help but notice the same last name.

second, hopefully, ?uestlove (that piece of overrated shit) and prince have put their differences between them aside. i was really getting sick of hearing them name-check/diss each other.


Q-Tip expressed his long-time admiration for Prince & Prince joked he was trying to get him to stop swearing. That was that.
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Reply #38 posted 04/10/02 7:45am

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IrishEcho said:

gubbins4ever said:

Irish, it's how you SELECT and REFLECT upon the facts that is crucial. It is impossible to merely report the facts because facts are not 'out there'. Everything is how we perceive and interpret it.

Therefore, I'd draw attention to the fact that you seemed to focus so much on complaining about things ancillary to the concert such as people's littering habits. I suppose that flavoured the character of your report as something a bit whingey.

I'm not looking for a bewildered "fam" report and to your credit, you did post a straightforward and detailed account of the night and you have my thanks for that.


Get a grip, you windbag. What time you must have if you choose to spend it criticizing someone's report of a concert. There's nothing "crucial" here. This is a fan site & I posted a recap of events at his concert. All of which happened. Were they not facts? Were you in favor of the people that cut in line or dumped their trash outside? That's wonderful for you. Should I have highlighted that experience in a rainbow font? Or perhaps different colors to express my joy? I don't care what you're looking for. You got what I posted. I won't be the last to post my thoughts on this show, I'm sure, so let's hope you get the crucial bits of information you desire.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 10 7:36:30 PDT 2002 by IrishEcho]



Yeah, let's hope someone posts something with a bit of an opinion as to if the show was good/bad etc. Mere facts alone are nice but opinions are nice too. Why didn't you divert time away from your litter discussions, which I doubt too many people care about, to a more analytical approach to what we read your post to find out about.

Am I an idiot for criticising your effort in posting in the first place? Maybe you're right, I am. Apologies, Echo.

Am I a loser for having the time to post this stuff? Maybe, but only as sad as you are for responding. (And I'm taking a little break out from work cos I'm tired).

At least I'm not aggressive anyway...
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Reply #39 posted 04/10/02 7:49am

NeoSoul

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Mean people suck. I hated the complaining at the beginning of the report. And why do people feel the need to point out the skin color of a line cutter? Do we want to associate line cutting with skin color? In fact, why even mention gender. I saw garbage, too, but it was neatly piled. I threw my soda can in a dumpster near the construction going on outside the Hall.

I thought the show was amazing. Prince seemed really happy. I liked his new personality. I hope he comes back close to NYC soon. Maybe I'll have to travel to see him at another site.

While I was trying to avoid the long line, I got directed to the stage door, which was not the place to pick up NPG club tickets. But I did see Chris Rock's name on the guest list plus 4 guests. He was probably watching from back stage.

It took so long to get my tickets -- I did not get there until 5:45 (as I work until 5) -- that I only saw the Extraordinary and Joy in Rep soundcheck. I was surprised Candy never came out, but maybe Prince thought she wasn't ready yet.

He made fun of some people who passed him by during the soundcheck and said that ain't Prince. This was one of his best shows. Deep cuts, songs that only true fans know and love, and lots of spontaneity. He passed out tambourines to the front row. Threw his hat to the audience. Joked about bootleg t-shirts. Asked if it's better to give or receive. When someone in the front row said to give, he responded why don't you give your seat to the brother in the back. A smart person pointed out she already gave Prince $150. He asked if it's better to be a leader or follower. He brought a follower on stage for his guitar solo.

Regarding family names, I'd just like Prince and others to know that Africans weren't the only ones to have their name changed when they came to America. When my dad was the first in his family to attend a school in America, his teacher changed his name from Kryniewiecki to Ryneski. I don't got my family name, but at least I know it. He didn't change too many peoples' names Tuesday night.

Thanks for a great concert experience. Boy was it funky and soulful.
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Reply #40 posted 04/10/02 7:53am

IrishEcho

gubbins4ever said:

IrishEcho said:

gubbins4ever said:

Irish, it's how you SELECT and REFLECT upon the facts that is crucial. It is impossible to merely report the facts because facts are not 'out there'. Everything is how we perceive and interpret it.

Therefore, I'd draw attention to the fact that you seemed to focus so much on complaining about things ancillary to the concert such as people's littering habits. I suppose that flavoured the character of your report as something a bit whingey.

I'm not looking for a bewildered "fam" report and to your credit, you did post a straightforward and detailed account of the night and you have my thanks for that.


Get a grip, you windbag. What time you must have if you choose to spend it criticizing someone's report of a concert. There's nothing "crucial" here. This is a fan site & I posted a recap of events at his concert. All of which happened. Were they not facts? Were you in favor of the people that cut in line or dumped their trash outside? That's wonderful for you. Should I have highlighted that experience in a rainbow font? Or perhaps different colors to express my joy? I don't care what you're looking for. You got what I posted. I won't be the last to post my thoughts on this show, I'm sure, so let's hope you get the crucial bits of information you desire.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 10 7:36:30 PDT 2002 by IrishEcho]



Yeah, let's hope someone posts something with a bit of an opinion as to if the show was good/bad etc. Mere facts alone are nice but opinions are nice too. Why didn't you divert time away from your litter discussions, which I doubt too many people care about, to a more analytical approach to what we read your post to find out about.

I posted my opinion on the show. Both on this thread and to the numerous people who have asked me privately. Who are you to mandate that I have to dwell on it? And if more people made an effort to clean up after themselves the world would be a better place.

Am I an idiot for criticising your effort in posting in the first place? Maybe you're right, I am. Apologies, Echo.

No one said you were an idiot. I just don't think it's your place. I hardly think I'll be the only one to post on this show & it's very rare that a single report covers everything.

Am I a loser for having the time to post this stuff? Maybe, but only as sad as you are for responding. (And I'm taking a little break out from work cos I'm tired).

Hardly. I answered your "criticism" as unfounded as it was...and I'm not the only one who seems to feel that way, from the look of it. Do you actually think that if you're going to say something negative about something I didn't even have to do in the first place that I am not entitled to respond? That's a pretty skewed version of reality...even reality as it relates to this site.

At least I'm not aggressive anyway...


On the contrary, you were aggressive the moment you wrote critiquing my review.
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Reply #41 posted 04/10/02 8:18am

AmyThyst

Geez, I hope this isn't the first review of ONA that somebody is reading. They might get the wrong idea about the show, the people, the fans and the venues. (Lakeland was 100 percent FINE.)

Peace and enjoy ... life is too short and Prince concerts are too few.
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Reply #42 posted 04/10/02 8:21am

Pious

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High every1,

Eye'm still NYC, the sound check was off da' hook, the concert was unbelievable...the after party was jumping, eye'm still sleep, once eye collect my thoughts eye fill y'all n...2 think eye had front row seats...

Prince really have outdone himself...OMG!!!!!

Eye gotta tell ya bout George Clinton 2.

Peace 4 now, more details later:)

Pious~
Life has no limitataions ~ Xcept 4 the 1's U make.

Pious~
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Reply #43 posted 04/10/02 8:23am

gubbins4ever

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IrishEcho said:

gubbins4ever said:

IrishEcho said:

gubbins4ever said:

Irish, it's how you SELECT and REFLECT upon the facts that is crucial. It is impossible to merely report the facts because facts are not 'out there'. Everything is how we perceive and interpret it.

Therefore, I'd draw attention to the fact that you seemed to focus so much on complaining about things ancillary to the concert such as people's littering habits. I suppose that flavoured the character of your report as something a bit whingey.

I'm not looking for a bewildered "fam" report and to your credit, you did post a straightforward and detailed account of the night and you have my thanks for that.


Get a grip, you windbag. What time you must have if you choose to spend it criticizing someone's report of a concert. There's nothing "crucial" here. This is a fan site & I posted a recap of events at his concert. All of which happened. Were they not facts? Were you in favor of the people that cut in line or dumped their trash outside? That's wonderful for you. Should I have highlighted that experience in a rainbow font? Or perhaps different colors to express my joy? I don't care what you're looking for. You got what I posted. I won't be the last to post my thoughts on this show, I'm sure, so let's hope you get the crucial bits of information you desire.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 10 7:36:30 PDT 2002 by IrishEcho]



Yeah, let's hope someone posts something with a bit of an opinion as to if the show was good/bad etc. Mere facts alone are nice but opinions are nice too. Why didn't you divert time away from your litter discussions, which I doubt too many people care about, to a more analytical approach to what we read your post to find out about.

I posted my opinion on the show. Both on this thread and to the numerous people who have asked me privately. Who are you to mandate that I have to dwell on it? And if more people made an effort to clean up after themselves the world would be a better place.

Am I an idiot for criticising your effort in posting in the first place? Maybe you're right, I am. Apologies, Echo.

No one said you were an idiot. I just don't think it's your place. I hardly think I'll be the only one to post on this show & it's very rare that a single report covers everything.

Am I a loser for having the time to post this stuff? Maybe, but only as sad as you are for responding. (And I'm taking a little break out from work cos I'm tired).

Hardly. I answered your "criticism" as unfounded as it was...and I'm not the only one who seems to feel that way, from the look of it. Do you actually think that if you're going to say something negative about something I didn't even have to do in the first place that I am not entitled to respond? That's a pretty skewed version of reality...even reality as it relates to this site.

At least I'm not aggressive anyway...


On the contrary, you were aggressive the moment you wrote critiquing my review.


Nope, critiquing is not an aggressive act.
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Reply #44 posted 04/10/02 8:32am

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Okay Echo, I never really take this internet business seriously so it's weird arguing with someone on it and that we would really care what another person says. It's a bit lame! Please let's stop responding to each other's points and quit now, regardless of who's wrong!

I'll say sorry for getting me and you caught up in this. After all, we don't want to be angry at each other or make enemies!
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Reply #45 posted 04/10/02 8:41am

IrishEcho

gubbins4ever said:



Nope, critiquing is not an aggressive act.


Far more aggressive than just reading my report and moving on. You don't make the rules here, jackass. And you won't have the last word, either. I posted a review, which I didn't have to do. You found "fault" with it, which you felt the overwhelming need to point out. And for what purpose? That's scary mature of you. Write a review of your own.
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Reply #46 posted 04/10/02 8:41am

IrishEcho

gubbins4ever said:

Okay Echo, I never really take this internet business seriously so it's weird arguing with someone on it and that we would really care what another person says. It's a bit lame! Please let's stop responding to each other's points and quit now, regardless of who's wrong!

I'll say sorry for getting me and you caught up in this. After all, we don't want to be angry at each other or make enemies!


Ok fine.
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Reply #47 posted 04/10/02 8:43am

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IrishEcho, I noticed the good use of paragraphing in your report. Well done. Punctuation is also nicely used. A couple of possible run-on sentences but we'll let that slide. I, for one, thank you for the report. If others are unhappy with it then why don't they write their own?

I would guess that the use of gender and race to describe the people that cut in line was appropriate only because we were all there and it might help us to remember the people and say "Hey! I saw those losers!".

The Candy thing was similar to the Buffalo show where Larry played at the soundcheck but never came out during the show but showed up at the afterparty.

The rest of the set list was Raspberry Beret and the Santana jam. Prince brought a girl up to dance during the jam and she was something else. very energetic and she could move. I think we were all just waiting for her top to fall off. I'm amazed that it didn't. Prince even gave a few funny looks to the girl that seemed to say to the audience "will you get a load of this". It was great.

His piano medley included the following in no particular order (I'm sure I'll leave something out):
Adore
Do Me Baby
Diamonds and Pearls
Sometimes It Snows In April
The Beautiful Ones
Purple Rain (band joined in)
How Come You Don't Call...
Starfish and Coffee
Free


And it ended with AnnaStesia.

I know I forgot a bunch of songs in there but I just got home to Albany a few minutes ago and I've been up for 28 hours now. I have to echo what BobGeorge67 said earlier about having a great time in line. I'm glad I met some people like him and ItalianCutie and Div02. Great people! Hedwig needs to be told that if Prince had wanted a tambourine playing during every song he would have hired someone to did it for him. He wasn't the only one doing it either. During the soundcheck and the first half of the show that tambourine was louder than the actual music. He is a talented tambourinist though. I will give him that.

The aftershow was a lot of fun. I got there and saw the line and ended up going around the corner to a little pub I know, had a few pints, some fish and chips, talked to the bartender for awhile and came back to the club around 1:30am and walked right in. Prince didn't come on until 2am and played until 4. I'll let others discuss the details. This does NOT mean that I didn't enjoy the afterparty in anyway.

Time to go nite-nite.
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Reply #48 posted 04/10/02 8:45am

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I'm sure CalhounSq is gonna trip that he played Calhoun Square during the soundcheck, let's keep our fingers crossed for Concord, shall we? . . . .
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Reply #49 posted 04/10/02 8:56am

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Butters said:

I've seen lots of rumors on this site (I mean the old Prince site) that Prince has tourettes syndrome, but this is the first I've read that he acknowledged this himself.
Anyways, the shows sound great, and I can't wait for him to hit Concord, CA!!!!!

GOOD REPORT irish echo. i hate going to places where people have to walk in garbage, (but NYC is pretty well known for this unless your in the best of manhattan...) but people standing in line representing prince fans should know better. people skipping ahead ia a real peeve of mine, but thats another story... ----- As far as prince and the tourettes syndrome>>>>>i may be wrong...but i think with tourettes you have a difficult if not impossible time NOT cussing. so if he said there will be no 4 letter words on stage tonight, blaming tourettes syndrome, he may have been sarcastically saying he DOESNT have it because he CAN keep from swearing. i'm sure he KNOWS people have said he has it, on the org, as he is said to read here freqently...i,myself, never heard he had this till i read it here. plus, u cant believe EVERYTHING u read. i think he already proved people wrong about his foot? for one by wearing sandals. plus he doesnt walk funny to me. if he's bow legged, thats no big deal OR a deformity. that's just my opinion the way irish echo said it was said. someone else may have heard something else and he may have been saying he has it. if he does have it, and he brought it out in the open, GREAT! it's NO shame! then i give him kudo's for his honesty. something he hasnt been with the public till now. he feels close to us. how nice!!!
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
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Reply #50 posted 04/10/02 9:02am

IrishEcho

NeoSoul said:

Mean people suck. I hated the complaining at the beginning of the report. And why do people feel the need to point out the skin color of a line cutter? Do we want to associate line cutting with skin color? In fact, why even mention gender. I saw garbage, too, but it was neatly piled. I threw my soda can in a dumpster near the construction going on outside the Hall.

Get a grip dork. I suppose you approve of throwing your garbage onto the street? I didn't realize it was such a burden to carry it all the way to a trashcan. I pointed out the skin color & gender of the woman because I wanted to identify her. What's your point? She was a large black woman with a bracelet fashioned out of Thieves in the Temple pin. Maybe some other people who noticed her cutting would recognize that in the report. Maybe the people who cut would, which was the point of describing them in the first place

I thought the show was amazing. Prince seemed really happy. I liked his new personality. I hope he comes back close to NYC soon. Maybe I'll have to travel to see him at another site.

I wish we could have asked if he intended to play on The Today Show this summer.

While I was trying to avoid the long line, I got directed to the stage door, which was not the place to pick up NPG club tickets. But I did see Chris Rock's name on the guest list plus 4 guests. He was probably watching from back stage.

It took so long to get my tickets -- I did not get there until 5:45 (as I work until 5) -- that I only saw the Extraordinary and Joy in Rep soundcheck. I was surprised Candy never came out, but maybe Prince thought she wasn't ready yet.

He made fun of some people who passed him by during the soundcheck and said that ain't Prince. This was one of his best shows. Deep cuts, songs that only true fans know and love, and lots of spontaneity. He passed out tambourines to the front row. Threw his hat to the audience. Joked about bootleg t-shirts. Asked if it's better to give or receive. When someone in the front row said to give, he responded why don't you give your seat to the brother in the back. A smart person pointed out she already gave Prince $150. He asked if it's better to be a leader or follower. He brought a follower on stage for his guitar solo.

Regarding family names, I'd just like Prince and others to know that Africans weren't the only ones to have their name changed when they came to America. When my dad was the first in his family to attend a school in America, his teacher changed his name from Kryniewiecki to Ryneski. I don't got my family name, but at least I know it. He didn't change too many peoples' names Tuesday night.

Thanks for a great concert experience. Boy was it funky and soulful.


I don't see why people get so up in arms just because I didn't immediately decide to name my firstborn son Prince after last night's show.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 10 9:06:31 PDT 2002 by IrishEcho]
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Reply #51 posted 04/10/02 9:03am

DrD

Thank you Abbstrack!

"perhaps they'll make music together finally, it would be a treat for us all" : may they ear you man!
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Reply #52 posted 04/10/02 9:07am

SxyRican

I appreciate your review, IrishEcho. Everyone has their own memories of the show and just because you didn't mention how you personally felt about every detail, doesn't mean you didn't have a good time. I always find it funny when people criticize a review when it should be appreciated the person took the time to write one in the first place.

Keep it real, baby...it's all good! smile
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Reply #53 posted 04/10/02 9:22am

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gubbins4ever said:

Irish, it's how you SELECT and REFLECT upon the facts that is crucial. It is impossible to merely report the facts because facts are not 'out there'. Everything is how we perceive and interpret it.

Therefore, I'd draw attention to the fact that you seemed to focus so much on complaining about things ancillary to the concert such as people's littering habits. I suppose that flavoured the character of your report as something a bit whingey.

I'm not looking for a bewildered "fam" report and to your credit, you did post a straightforward and detailed account of the night and you have my thanks for that.

Sometimes we need the reports varied and with a different perspective. so far there has been lots of OVERLY enthusiastic people reporting BUT then these people have had personal contact with prince and are over zealous. iecho didnt experience this. plus some people hate the sort of things that he saw with the garbage and line skippers...cant blame em. thats why, i guess there are varied forms of fans to choose in our profiles. not ALL are obsessed or hardcore, but can still enjoy prince. if we want to read PURELY obsessive reports of sometimes nauseous proportions, just go to npgmc fam tour reports. u wont see ANYTHING less than phenomenal THERE. thats why i like the org reports. the good bad and the ugly gets reported! i woundnt expect less of this site.
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
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Reply #54 posted 04/10/02 9:27am

IrishEcho

I will admit that if I had been within earshot, I would have shouted "Hi Prince, my name is Divinity."
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Reply #55 posted 04/10/02 9:33am

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during soundcheck he also did 4 the tears in your eyes. i didnt recognize the music, but he was singing the lyrics.
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Reply #56 posted 04/10/02 9:37am

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Diamonds said:




Sounds like the afterpary in NY was worth it. The after in DC was not good at all. He did come with Mani and Larry and Larry's wife. He stayed in VIP the entire time and did not talk to anyone in VIP except the people he came with. For all that, he could have stayed in his hotel. I was really disappointed. And yes, before anyone says I'm bitter because I wasn't in VIP, I WAS.


It's feast or famine with Prince. He gives his best in some places, or he gives shit in other places. Chicago got crummy seats for club members, a setlist full of covers, canceled soundcheck, and NO aftershow.

I paid the same money as everybody else to join the club and I got ZERO perks. NO preferred seating. NO aftershow. NO NOTHING. Prince is Number 1 on my ASSHOLE of the Year list. What he did in Chicago is THEFT and FRAUD.
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Reply #57 posted 04/10/02 9:39am

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The Sun set in the West this morning. 4 I know, I know L.A.
is calling.

Can't wait for the West Coast shows. This sounds like the Prince concert I've been waiting on.
cracknbush
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Reply #58 posted 04/10/02 10:13am

robynj

Good Lord! Is it THAT serious people? I guess it is.

At any rate.. I was there for soundcheck, show, AND afterparty and say what you will Irishecho's of the world... it was a night to remember. Prince was in rare form last night. Rare form.

For me, it was worth the king's gold just to hear "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker."

I crawled into bed @ 5 a.m. and am now at the office struggling to keep it together but it was WELL worth it.
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Reply #59 posted 04/10/02 10:21am

IrishEcho

PrimeTime said:

during soundcheck he also did 4 the tears in your eyes. i didnt recognize the music, but he was singing the lyrics.


That's what that was? It sounded very bluesy...unrecognizeable.
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