DigitalShogun said:

ROFL...eheh

Divinity, I'm sorry for your experience at the soundcheck. It sounds as though your perceptions of what occured were very negative in nature. After reading other posts however, the perceptions of others differed from yours. It's amazing to me how many can see one incident and have so many varying details to that incident. I'm sure that you were very hurt by what you perceived as negative coming from Prince, and very embarrassed to have a gift that you had given to him not be accepted. We often feel hurt when we "expect" something and that expectation is not met. What I am curious about is what exactly your expectation was of Prince? Though, in my opinion, there was nothing to be embarrassed about in having him not accept your gift.

I don't know a lot about Prince, his life and such, but I do know that he has stated on several occassions that he does not like to receive gifts. Add to the fact that your gift was a cd of your music, and that in my mind only increases the chances that he would deny the gift. As others have stated, law suits run amok.

What I do request clarification on, as I just sat here and read this whole thread (have no idea why) but what did/does your disability have to do with Prince rejecting your gift? I myself am disabled but do not allow it to be a crutch. (no pun intended) I don't blame things on my disability that are in my control and I consider that my reactions to events that I experience are within my control. I also do not use my disability to garner sympathy. In fact, most people that know me do not know that I have a disability as I only discuss that with those that I feel closest to. (Mine is a medical condition, so physical in a sense, but nothing that is discernable by sight.) Was Prince aware of your disability?

I truly am sorry that you perceived what occured in such a negative way. I see that you have tried to get others to see your perception of what occured, but please try to look at it from Prince's standpoint. He has been touring for a few weeks now and I'm sure that he is tired. He is sleeping in hotels and anyone that has done some serious travelling can tell you how wearing that can be on the body and mind. And yet Prince has managed to give great concerts and has opened up the soundchecks to his fams and has been conversing with those he meets during the soundchecks. He has been keeping his spirits up. He knows that all eyes are on him and that everything he says is being scrutinized. You try to give him a gift and he says he can't accept it and asks you to please come and get it. You continue to insist that it's a gift. I imagine that Prince has people approaching him all the time, people that he doesn't know, people who he doesn't remember (because a "star" of his stature has fans/fams approach him all the time, some with their own music to sell, some who just want to wish him well, some who thank him, some who criticize him, etc.). You stated that you've had past dealings with Paisley Park, but I didn't read where you'd had past dealings with Prince personally. We tend to forget those encounters easier that do not touch us personally. Your dealings (by your own account) were with Sunny/Sonny and not Prince. You have to keep in mind that just because your package was on Prince's desk, does not mean that he actually opened it. Chances are Divinity, Prince had no clue who you were even after you mentioned Sunny/Sonny.

I'm not trying to come down on you, so please don't take my post that way. I'm just trying to get you to look at another side. When we perceive something in one way, it only makes that true for our experience. Another may experience the same thing, but perceive it in another way, and it does not make their perception any less true, it just makes it true for them.

Good luck with your career. Please don't allow your perceptions of what occurred to effect you too negatively. Live life to the fullest and enjoy everything that comes your way (even those things that seem negative in the beginning can be positive experiences if we allow them to be).

You know, I am usually just an observer on this site but I can't sit back and not share my experience here. Maybe I should hold back, but here goes. I only had the opportunity to attend the Sunday sound check and was disappointed that more time was spent listening to Divinity complain about Prince not accepting her CDR instead of playing music. I don't feel like he was rude, he simply asked her to take her music back. Funny, he challenged Divinity about her permission to use, alter, rerecord his music...her response, blah, blah, blah with the lawyer and the other contacts, etc.... He could have been playing!

What about the fact that he actually could have been doing her a favor? If he kept the CDR it would have been really easy for him to pass it to his attorney to followup and for him to sue for her using his music without permission.

Well guess what, I was the lucky person who sat next to Divinity for the rest of the concert. I feel like the universe was testing my patience. First the show started and she arrived at her seat late. Then she wants me to tell her how the seats are numbered (Hello, I'm trying to enjoy the concert). Then she dances next to me with no regard for her hair brushing those people around her. Then I sit down with a drink and the streamers from her costume land in my glass of champagne (Hello, I'm trying to enjoy my drink without your costume in it). Next everyone sits for a ballad and she stands. An usher asks her to sit and she wants to know if he can get her back stage (Excuse me, you're blocking my view). She ends up in the center aisle to observe the concert and argues with another usher about returning to her seat. I feel like Divinity should have paid for my concert seat that night as she really imposed on my experience.

This is how I see it...no name calling, no negative intent, no apologies. Just my truth. Sometimes folks can be oblivious to the consideration that should be shown to others around them. "Its 'her' world for a little while!"

R~

This may just be the best prince thread ever - I may just print it out and put it on my fridge so as to get my mornings off to a good start.

I think we should all chip in and send Divinity (love the name by the way - it's so 1988) to all of the remaining shows on the US leg of the tour. She can confront Prince before each show - all we ask in return is that she report back to us.....maybe a network would be interested in turning it into a sitcom - who knows? Think "The Osbournes" crossed with "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest".....

shane said:

GOD! Shane, thats as Classic as they come!!!! You rock, my friend!!! I agree, this has to be the best, most intertaining thread i've read so far.....tomorrow, i'm hitting the computer room and just may copy this thing out!!!

A Peaceful Wild, ya'll!!!
T-O-DoubleD

OH MAN!!! Everything has already been said but I'll add my 2 cents for the hell of it - we don't ream enough around here!

Divinity6 said:

YOU'RE A FUCKING NUT.



I'm glad.



Get some new material. 1 word: diversity.



Consider yourself lucky that he hasn't divorced you by now. MAYBE if you didn't spend all your time crying over stupid shit, you could be more productive in your life (sewing costumes doesn't count), make more $ & your hubby could stay in a HOTEL next time!



WTF?? :O



Do you have a damn job? What's with the "costume"??? What's with having a week to dedicate to it?

Note to Divinity: this is where you lost most of us...



"Shy" people would have cried in the lobby...



Well, now you know better. Don't disrespect his stage with your junk. If it means so much to you, why leave it on a stage? Why not find out how to properly shop your music?



2 words: repeat button.



No love or respect here. If you were any kind of "artist", you would know how TRULY disrespectful this is. If he wanted a 2nd verse, his vast catalogue would indicate that he is perfectly capable of adding one himself. What the FUCK makes you think he needs or wants your help??? Crazy YOU!



Sooooo, you were yelling things out but HE humiliated YOU? The purple dye has gone to your brain, honey - take responsibility for your actions. You took a risk, you ignored his wishes & you fucking blew it. You put in a lot of ridiculous effort only to mess it up for yourself.

Get it together folks - anybody pulls this kinda shit in the Bay I'mma get in that ass with a bullet! Okay, that's about as far-fetched as the title of this thread, but seriously - don't take advantage of his generosity!!! These soundchecks are a gift to us, PLEASE don't fuck it up for everyone!!!

As for you Divinity:

- Dye your hair back, burn your costume, cut the slander & back away from the keyboard.

- Get to know REALITY.

- Be thankful you have an understanding husband that puts up with your ass; tell him you want to investigate the benefits of therapy.

- Write a song about people who find their way out of the darkness, which I sincerely hope you do.

- Wipe your tears & be glad you're alive; tomorrow is another chance to try & get this whole thing right!

And don't even think about OrgNoting ME!!!




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[This message was edited Wed Apr 3 2:31:24 PST 2002 by CalhounSq]

Good point Calhoun. She seems to think her infatuation with Prince (embodied in her 50 songs about him) somehow justifies this kind of fanatical behavior.

CalhounSq said:[quote]OH MAN!!! Everything has already been said but I'll add my 2 cents for the hell of it - we don't ream enough around here!

Divinity6 said:

YOU'RE A FUCKING NUT.



I'm glad.



Get some new material. 1 word: diversity.



Consider yourself lucky that he hasn't divorced you by now. MAYBE if you didn't spend all your time crying over stupid shit, you could be more productive in your life (sewing costumes doesn't count), make more $ & your hubby could stay in a HOTEL next time!



WTF?? :O



Do you have a damn job? What's with the "costume"??? What's with having a week to dedicate to it?

Note to Divinity: this is where you lost most of us...



"Shy" people would have cried in the lobby...



Well, now you know better. Don't disrespect his stage with your junk. If it means so much to you, why leave it on a stage? Why not find out how to properly shop your music?



2 words: repeat button.



No love or respect here. If you were any kind of "artist", you would know how TRULY disrespectful this is. If he wanted a 2nd verse, his vast catalogue would indicate that he is perfectly capable of adding one himself. What the FUCK makes you think he needs or wants your help??? Crazy YOU!



Sooooo, you were yelling things out but HE humiliated YOU? The purple dye has gone to your brain, honey - take responsibility for your actions. You took a risk, you ignored his wishes & you fucking blew it. You put in a lot of ridiculous effort only to mess it up for yourself.

Get it together folks - anybody pulls this kinda shit in the Bay I'mma get in that ass with a bullet! Okay, that's about as far-fetched as the title of this thread, but seriously - don't take advantage of his generosity!!! These soundchecks are a gift to us, PLEASE don't fuck it up for everyone!!!

As for you Divinity:

- Dye your hair back, burn your costume, cut the slander & back away from the keyboard.

- Get to know REALITY.

- Be thankful you have an understanding husband that puts up with your ass; tell him you want to investigate the benefits of therapy.

- Write a song about people who find their way out of the darkness, which I sincerely hope you do.

- Wipe your tears & be glad you're alive; tomorrow is another chance to try & get this whole thing right!

And don't even think about OrgNoting ME!!!


ROFLMAO!!!!! Your opinions were very well stated, I could not have said it better myself.

lol
but who the nut if all y'all bashing the lady daily? who the nut if he considers his song his chidren? you peeps trippin still
mary mary how does your garden grow
anyone know when prince coming to alabama

Mary, we're not "bashing" anyone, we are just stating the facts as we see them. Divinity clearly was out of line for what she did, and she needs to realize and come to terms with it. Anyone who disrupts a soundcheck to give Prince a CD, then gets upset when he nicely refuses her and then tries to claim that she is "disabled" to make Prince look bad needs a reality check and fast! I would not blame Prince if Divinity's behavior would cause him to cancel her NPGMC membership. What she did and the fact that she is falsely slandering his name on a website that is devoted solely to him is inexusable. I just hope she does not show up at the soundcheck for the concert at the celebration (if there is such a concert) and pulls the same stunt. I and other NPGMC members would throw her out of there quick and with no chance of her ever getting back in. Not to sound cruel or heartless, but that's just the way it is.

Good lawd! i clicked on this thread thinking a disabled girl had been moved to tears becasue prince had sang to her etc, the Title of this thread is very misleading, and then the said lady says that she is not at liberty to talk about her disability, yet she uses it to grab our attention. Very Very weird. why did you sit snivelling like a child for 4 hours? if it was that bad why didn't you leave with dignity? Bizzare

It's an odd story, I can see why he might of disliked what you did with Crazy You, maybe he thought that this was the CD you were giving him !? But he should of just said thank you and taken it away, just as he would any other gift (flowers, etc). He must of been having a bad day, but he knew he was meeting with fans and should of behaved himself ! Anyone can be an arsehole sometimes !!

I don't think she was at all out of line, there's nothing new about giving gifts ! what about that guy on here who's painting a jacket for Prince ? Maybe he should think twice !!

james said:

James, I think that Prince asked Ricco for a jacket. I could be wrong, but I'm almost sure he did.

One other thing...many have said that the reason he did not take her cd, and just put it aside like he might do with other gifts, is because he has the chance of getting sued for using other peoples work. You're right, there's nothing new about people giving artists gifts...but a cd is something entirely different than a purple stuffed teddy bear.

Prince does not accept gifts. Why do you think he does not celebrate his birthday or Christmas? Even if Divinity wanted to give him something other than a CD with her music on it, he probably would not have accepted it.

herbthe4 said:

When I fucking hang myself with it...

Im surprised he didnt drop the CDR under his bike and roll over it.

Meloh9 said:

LOLOL!!!! Good one!!!!

I did not mean that little crack as a diss 2 Dininty, just wanted to clear that up.

Divinity, I noticed that you said you came from Pittsburg for the Washington show. Are you going to go to the show in New York?

"cant u just get off it...eye mean cant u just leave it alone...I'm not gonna play 2 ur stupid music now gett off it !!"
-purple rain


j/k

psychodelicide said:

He apparently didn't have any problem with accepting that guitar from George Bensen.



I thought it was because of his religious beliefs, not because he dislikes gifts.

matt said:[quote]

psychodelicide said:

He apparently didn't have any problem with accepting that guitar from George Bensen.

George Benson is a respected artist, not some random wacko in the crowd. and Ibanez used to sell George Benson models, unless someone specifically said Benson gave one to Prince and i missed it...

matt said:

Well, I was not aware that he accepted a guitar from George Benson, I did not even hear about that. But I am aware of several occassions when fans have tried to give him a gift and he politely refused.

I think it is a combination of his religious beliefs and perhaps not liking gifts that he does not celebrate birthdays, Christmas or whatever. I did not make it clear that I also thought it was partially because of his religious beliefs, but I have to agree with that statement.

i'd be surprised if there are any celebs that are into accepting gifts from fans any more, who knows what's in some of those boxes. there was a big deal made about not being able to bring gifts to a BSB or Nsync show here, and that was just after 9-11. like Prince is actually going to sit down and eat a box of "homemade" cookies or something...who knows what some of the wackos out there are capable of doing...

twonabomber said:

ROFL!!! Ain't that the truth!!! With the way the world is this days, singers and musicians have to be very careful of any and all dealings with fans. - picturing Prince eating some fan's homemade cookies.

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[This message was edited Wed May 15 21:21:26 PDT 2002 by ChickenLittle]

ChickenLittle said:

True, I don't think millionaire celebs even care to get gifts from their fans. They have other things on their minds besides receiving a gift from someone they don't even know.

twonabomber said:

IIRC George personally gave it to Prince... there's an autograph on the back, presumably Mr. Bensen's.

Hey, I thought Prince didn't believe in autographs either....

matt said:

Maybe George does . . .