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Reply #150 posted 04/01/02 8:27pm

BanishedBrian

Divinity6 said:

Orgnoting? I was messaged privately providing with contradictory information to what you posted here publically. I responded to each one of your responses, now I'm a pest, whatever. Funny I've gotten responses from a girl who simply asked a question at sound check & was not only ignored, but made fun of until she "sat quietly in her seat" also. Other stories reflect one girl tapping Prince on the shoulder & him flicking her in the forehead, a guy who was escorted out for approaching the stage while Prince was playing, one person being told not to look at Prince while he crouched with the mic between seats, etc. etc. I've gotten emails from people in foreign countries totally supporting me - one guy from France who worked at a venue & was snubbed by Prince. Apparently this is an on-going thing & needs to be discussed. I'm glad I was the catalyst to creating the conversation.
When you stop, I'll stop. Fair enough?


Divinity--It's time to let this go, or you will continue to catch a beatdown from people on this thread. You were out of line, period. Now you are trying to assert more unsubstantiated accusations. Let it go girl! (By the way, I wonder why none of these "stories" are being posted on this thread, lol. It's because you are lying!)

I sat a couple seat over from you at the concert, and if you don't want to let this drop, I can further explain exactly what happened. Unfortunately though, it's only going to make you look less and less credible.
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Reply #151 posted 04/01/02 8:29pm

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Thanks to those of you who supplied the kind words. First of all, thanks for explaining the cat-suit comment. I admit, I completely misunderstood what was said. I guess my thoughts got jumbled up, and yes, I was very disappointed - my bad. However I was extending the CD to him as a gift, not with a hidden "agenda." What none of you understand is that I had direct contact with Paisley Park for a complete year back in '97-'98 through a person called "Sunny" who ran Paisley Park. Sunny called me on the telephone as a representative for Prince & Paisley Park after I sent a package to an employee who was no longer there. They accepted my package, Sunny phoned & I was told they were interested in hearing more about me & my music. I was able to phone Paisley Park on a regular basis simply by saying it was Divinity. During my year relationship with the park I sent bouquets of imported european flowers among other gifts just to show my appreciation for their kindness in reveiwing & accepting my material. I received musical & career advice from Sunny during this entire time. I was later given a cell phone number so I could reach Sunny at any time. I asked Sunny if Prince ever saw my press kit & he said it was on his desk, & told me about how the last time I sent flowers Prince refused to let Sunny take them to his office because he wanted them in the background for some t.v. interview he was doing later in the day. I had planned a trip to Minneapolis towards the end of '98 after going through another surgery, & was to call Sunny when my husband & I arrived. When I called Paisley Park I was given Sunny's home phone number. When I called Sunny's home I was saddened to find that Prince had done a mass firing & let go of Sunny in the process. I left town & I never attempted to contact Paisley Park again except regarding my recording of "Crazy You" which you're not understanding I added to creatively. The song was just an accoustic, unfinished in my opinion, short idea. The final production was complete instrumentation and the addition of more lyrics supplied by me.
So, this is what all you fams that were there didn't understand. One of the things I told Prince, if you'll recall is "funny, Sunny used to accept my CD's." Meaning: hey - you gave Sunny permission to accept my CD's on behalf of Paisley Park before. (You all know Prince O.K.'s everything that comes & goes from there) That's when Prince said "you wanna talk about Sunny? Talk about Sunny & I'll tell you everything that's wrong with the music business." If you were there you must admit you didn't know what the underlying conversation was about. I replied to Prince "sorry I didn't know." He was obviously pissed at the thought of Sunny. You'll also remember I threw his attorney's name out there so he'd know I knew what I was talking about.
The only other things I wanted to say is that my costume was made from clothes I had at home & modified on my sewing maching. Also, I wouldn't have given Prince a CD if I didn't assume he knew who I was from my past dealings with Paisley Park. It was a gift and I totally didn't expect that reaction. I give away all my CD's so it's absurd for any of you to think I was trying to capitalize on an opportunity - I was simply there to have a great time. One thing typing doesn't convey is one's tone of voice; and come on people, Prince was definitely pissed. Maybe you didn't feel the humiliation because he wasn't being condescending to you, but in all honesty he definitely was playing the "I'm the star" role. What happened to his humility?
I do admire your stick-to-it-iveness and loyalty for Prince. His music has been a friend to me through the years... he's picked me up when I'm down, inspired me, helped me through some rough times, & helped me to recover physically. One time I was so bad off I wasn't responding to anything. My sister brought over some Prince tapes & played them night & day until I woke up. So, I completely understand your devotion as I am like you. What I don't understand are your mean comments. Obviously everyone there was facing the situation from a different perspective. I'm a kind, loving human being & most of all I'll admit when I'm wrong, like when I misunderstood the catsuit comment. I just don't see how any of you can say I was a problem. We weren't given a list of rules when we entered the venue, & from your perspective I should've known not to put a CD on-stage. Do you still feel the same way knowing Paisley Park was my direct driving force from '97-'98? Any dialogue was started by Prince. He was doing his usual routine of trying to shut me up with his one-liners, but I hung in there tit for tat. The wit was matched. Maybe you guys didn't know what was really going on, but the above is why there was more to it than the obvious for me.
I completely respect Prince & if I'd have known what his reaction would've been I would have chosen a different path. But you see all of us have choices in life, & the second he saw my name on that CD he thought of Sunny & decided to be an ass to me because he was unsure of my intentions and chose to think the worst. I encourage you to step outside yourself to look at the situation from a different light, mine per se. Most of all I thank you for sharing your emotions with me & I challenge you to choose goodness over bad, like over hate, kindness over prosecution. I was hurt deeply by what transpired, & just looking for an outlet.
Peace & God bless,
Divinity

dang gurl! u don't need 2 write songs, u can write books... who is reading all this crap? lol
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Reply #152 posted 04/01/02 8:39pm

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dang gurl! u don't need 2 write songs, u can write books... who is reading all this crap? lol


LOL @ Rane
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Reply #153 posted 04/01/02 8:54pm

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Rane, that's exactly what I said earlier!! lol lol

BanishedBrian,I really would like to hear more of your side of the story, since this story has already been blown way out of proportion anyway.

Divinity, orgnoting me three times is in one evening is definitely being a pest, whether you want to believe it or not. Every time you orgnote me, what you tell me is less and less credible, so just cool it. alright?? Whether you think you were providing me or whoever with contradictory information to what we posted here is not believable anyway, so you might as well quit now.

I find it very hard to believe that Prince did any of the things at the DC soundcheck that Divinity claimed to have happened in her last post. I was at the soundcheck at the Cleveland show. Prince was very, very approachable, gracious and polite to everyone there, and he made everybody feel welcome. Nobody was ignored, or told not to look at Prince, or any of the other ludicrous things that she is claiming. I find it sad that someone would make up stories like Prince in this matter, especially when Prince is the only artist, that I know of, who even does soundchecks for his fans. People should be grateful that Prince does this for us, and should not be bitching or complaining about anything. Just go and have a good time!

And Divinity, don't even THINK about orgnoting me. If you have something to say, say it on this thread like everyone else. evil evil evil evil
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #154 posted 04/01/02 9:01pm

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BanishedBrian said:

gatorgirl said:

Oh my stars. I know that I wasn't at this concert (but attended Friday and Saturday's and they were EXCELLENT!!) so I really can't say much on who was "wrong or right", but it seems to me that Prince may have been trying to be somewhat sarcastic (at least at the beginning). I mean come on, if he was angry at Alicia for "stealing" his song (did he even say "stealing"?) why did he invite her to the Celebration in 2001? Or why would he be performing "Love Rollercoaster" and Santana's song if it was "theft?" .


By the way, he was not kidding around. He stated that he was cool with Alicia personally, but had a problem with her record company for not getting a proper license for the song. He was being serious about it.

He also discussed the fact that you can cover songs live without a license. That was why he made the comment about covering the musical Cats.


Like I said I wasn't there, but I know that he can make comments that can be misinterpreted and taken in various (+ or -) ways. I was not saying that he was kidding about the usage of his song because that is something to be taken seriously, especially by Prince. I was refering to Divinity being called upstage to get her CD and I thought that perhaps she mistaked that comment for being rude when most felt it was not. That is the scenario I think could have been misunderstood. And, I see your point in the fact that he was upset with the record company and not Alicia personally. That makes sense. As Divinity put it it seemed as though he was angry with her personally and that did not make sense to me since she had been invited to the Celebration after the release of HCUDCMA. I didn't know that a license was not required for live performances, but live or not, his covering of songs on recent albums would make me think that he doesn't always have a problem with someone using another person's song in most circumstances and with proper permission and agreement of the artist(s) who created the song.
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Reply #155 posted 04/01/02 9:01pm

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Divinity the point is that he didn't want the CD. He asked you to come to get it. How is that horrible? There were others that were at the sound check who have stated that he did ask you to get it in a non aggressive way. Why was it drawn out. As for some of the orgers wanting to know what your disability is and you stating you have the right not to say you put that out there as the header for you post (which in my opinion i felt that was just an attempt to get sympathy from everyone on here). So don't get defensive when they ask about it. You put it out there. Just because you spoke with someone that was employed by him for a year shouldn't make him say "Oh ok I'll listen to it.". Life doesn't work like that. He just didn't want the CD. Bottom line. Let it go. I'm sorry you cried over it but please don't make yourself out as the victim and him the bad guy because he didn't want your CD. Now so far I've read posts from others who were there and say you made it worse but have yet to have read any posts from anyone who was there that said he did anything wrong. Hmmmmm
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Reply #156 posted 04/01/02 9:18pm

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I'm starting a collection to get Divinity the psychiatric help she needs. Anybody care to donate?
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #157 posted 04/01/02 9:24pm

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This is another thread which should be taken out and shot...
Peace Out, Trout!!
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Reply #158 posted 04/01/02 9:25pm

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Oh psycho..... lol how ya been girl?
"I'm all alone n the waiting room"
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Reply #159 posted 04/01/02 9:27pm

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(((((purpledarling))))) Good girl, how about you? Nice to see you posting on here. biggrin
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #160 posted 04/01/02 9:35pm

freshy95

Divinity6 said:[quote]Divy-I am protected under the from answering how exactly I am disabled. I try very hard to mask my disability, evidentally sucessfully.
You didn't hear his command to "come & get it." He did not request anything. You didn't hear his tone of voice & you'd probably jump off a bridge if he told you to. I wasn't budging. If he didn't want my gift, it was on him to return it. By the way I didn't have on a collar!

ok...so you expected prince to stop the soundcheck, apologize to you and the other npgmembers, take a hop off stage, and deliver the package that YOU had put on HIS stage to your humble little self??

mmmm hmmmm

the other day at work a man in a wheel chair started screaming at one of my cashiers because he claimed the aisle was to narrow at the register(wheelchairs whiz thru this aisle all the time). The cashier was very apologetic; but the man contiued to sceam until she started to cry. I rushed over and explained to the man that we had never had this problem, and that it would be no problem for him to be rung up on the first register (which could be accessed by someone in a school bus). He then spattered out that there was no cashier there. I explained that at closing we usually only had one cashier because of the drop of customer traffic in the later hours (by the way, the man shopped until about,let's say, FIFTEEN MINUTES after closing), and there would be no problem moving the cashier to the register for him. This caused him to go into a frenzy. He screamed about the fact that we should always have a register open for handicapped and that we were violating the 'Americans With Disabilities act' I continually apologized as I rang him up and FINALLY got him out of the store.

No reason for this story. Just reminds me of this ASININE thread i remember reading on the org
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Reply #161 posted 04/01/02 9:41pm

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Reply #162 posted 04/01/02 9:52pm

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i'm still tryin' to figure out the disability. either it's the blonde hair, or the obviously fake mammaries are siphoning off the oxygen supply to the brain...
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Reply #163 posted 04/01/02 10:02pm

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Divinity6 said:[quote]" What none of you understand is that I had direct contact with Paisley Park for a complete year back in '97-'98 through a person called "Sunny" who ran Paisley Park. Sunny called me on the telephone as a representative for Prince & Paisley Park after I sent a package to an employee who was no longer there. They accepted my package, Sunny phoned & I was told they were interested in hearing more about me & my music. I was able to phone Paisley Park on a regular basis simply by saying it was Divinity. During my year relationship with the park I sent bouquets of imported european flowers among other gifts just to show my appreciation for their kindness in reveiwing & accepting my material. I received musical & career advice from Sunny during this entire time. I was later given a cell phone number so I could reach Sunny at any time.


well it sounds to me that "sunny" was trying to "score" with you and using your desire to get your music to prince against you.wake up!!!!! sunny probably never told prince shit about you! he told you that to maybe see what you would be willing to do to get him to hear it! his personal cell number? he was running game on you!!!!! he probably saw your pictures and said "damn i want some of that"...prince didnt know who you were because sunny never told him about you.....you got played.....
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Reply #164 posted 04/01/02 10:10pm

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Christopher, no need 2 b confused, lol...i was there at the sound check 2nd row dead center...and even tho the house lights were off and the only light were the blue stage lights, i could still see his face and he wasn't pissed...i would say he was more like graciously indifferent....u know- how he has a poker face w/ that monotone voice, everyone does...she was the one literally hiding in the dark and couldn't take the heat...if she was the business woman she says she is, she would've used the opportunity 2 communicate w/ him further and make something out of it....hell at least play it off and get a laugh out of it...something!!

if he wanted 2 really embarrass her, he could've PLAYED it! lol...he could've picked it apart bit by bit...but then he would've been wrong, right?

this chyle is kookoo fer coacoa puffs!!
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Reply #165 posted 04/01/02 10:26pm

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Divinity6 said:[quote]Divy-I am protected under the Americans With Disabilities act from answering how exactly I am disabled. I try very hard to mask my disability, evidentally sucessfully.
You didn't hear his command to "come & get it." Prince wouldn't know exactly who you are.
2 my knowledge, and I may be wrong, The Americans with Disabilities Act prohibits you from being discriminated against due to the fact you are disabled or handicapped. You got the CD up there somehow, and however you got it up there, you should have removed it. It's not like you were sitting in a wheelchair in the front row and he "DEMANDED" that you "run up here and get it!" Also the ADA protects potential "discriminators" by saying that they only need to provide reasonable accomidation to those with disabilites. Prince did that by having someone bring it to you...also you yourself stated that you were obviously successful in "hiding" your disability. And also, there are only a few members of the NPGMC who don't know the name of his attorney, like we know parents and siblings names, hell even his security guards (WHASSUP AARON?). Name dropping, especially common names doesn't get you any further, only makes you look U look Crazy.....(Tell Prince to let me backstage....I was your sister Tyka's date at the prom and her dad John L. Nelson let me borrow your purple BMW to drive her around Mineapolis....REMEMBER ME?) Soundcheck is a privelege. Being able to even conversate with him and ask questions is a privelge (THE MAN DOESN'T EVEN LIKE TO ANSWER REPORTERS QUESTIONS....First reporters misquote him, and now NPGMC members misquote him, embellish the facts, and basically slander his charecter.) And finally, NO ONE would have known that you have an alleged disability until you but it in your thread....and then got defensive when questioned about it. With members like you who feel like he owes you something.....I hope that he doesn't cancel these open soundchecks. And though he is a celebrity, he is a human, and all humans have the right to reject gifts, or unwanted advances aimed in their direction (sexual or otherwise).....including the acceptance of "gifts". He may have not given you the desired reaction, but at least he acknowledged it and offered to return it to you. He could have simply stepped on it or tossed it into the trash, or left it there 4ever. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and this is mine.
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Reply #166 posted 04/01/02 10:42pm

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Butterscotch too funny! Kookoo for CocoaPuffs!
lol.

Well I wasn't there so I can't say, but it sounds more like what ya'll that were there that saw this go down's version then this lady's version.

I agree if she has been or really is in tha business, she shoulda known better than to do this cuz of how things go and also it is pretty much taking a risk to try it at a situation like this where he's basically warming up the band, etc.

Tho nuthing happened and this was no one that seemed to want to do any bodily harm to our Prince, it does make me think of something I thought about when I hrd all ya'll that went to the Celebration in June when he walked around freely, security present but kind of laid back so he could walk around.

I wondered at that time what if some nut gets up in that mix and gets too close for the wrong reasons. And even at these soundchecks I have wondered the same thing-cuz Lawd knows there r some nuts out here that all they gotta do is here he is going to be sitting in the audience talkin with people etc and they will try to take it from there.

I met Aaron once, he seemed to be on his job, along with his other security but from what I've heard Prince one time said stop looin at the nonays and do ya'll job! So who knows?!

hopefully it wont deter him from continung to do the soundchecks.
peace!

By the way, were ya'll bags checked when u came inside, were ya'll frisked?
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Reply #167 posted 04/01/02 10:51pm

RavedIn2

GeMiNiSFuNkYJaMs said:

Butterscotch too funny! Kookoo for CocoaPuffs!
lol.

Well I wasn't there so I can't say, but it sounds more like what ya'll that were there that saw this go down's version then this lady's version.

I agree if she has been or really is in tha business, she shoulda known better than to do this cuz of how things go and also it is pretty much taking a risk to try it at a situation like this where he's basically warming up the band, etc.

Tho nuthing happened and this was no one that seemed to want to do any bodily harm to our Prince, it does make me think of something I thought about when I hrd all ya'll that went to the Celebration in June when he walked around freely, security present but kind of laid back so he could walk around.

I wondered at that time what if some nut gets up in that mix and gets too close for the wrong reasons. And even at these soundchecks I have wondered the same thing-cuz Lawd knows there r some nuts out here that all they gotta do is here he is going to be sitting in the audience talkin with people etc and they will try to take it from there.

I met Aaron once, he seemed to be on his job, along with his other security but from what I've heard Prince one time said stop looin at the nonays and do ya'll job! So who knows?!

hopefully it wont deter him from continung to do the soundchecks.
peace!

By the way, were ya'll bags checked when u came inside, were ya'll frisked?


I was at a soundcheck in another city and women had their purses checked and men were frisked.
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Reply #168 posted 04/01/02 11:51pm

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Reply #169 posted 04/02/02 1:04am

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Well...all I can say is that if I was trying to get ready for a show and some1 brought a cd to me and told me they added a verse to a song that I wrote I would have smacked them across the face with sent them running home to momma...good and plenty fast! It's one thing to be inspired by someone but it's another to "add to" or "alter" a piece of art that they have created.
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Reply #170 posted 04/02/02 1:54am

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OK ..1st. I am like everybody else, confused about the title of that story! 2nd.. I was at the show n Cincinnati and I 2 got to dance on stage .....remember this girl from that show .....she was called up 2 dance and she started dancing sexy and took off her jacket, .swinging it around, went over and was banging on prince's piano!!.The security guards went over and made her get off the piano then she was walking over right n front of prince and dancing, so they made everybody get down..
now n my opinion i think she just likes 2 make a habit of spoiling it 4 everybody...she is an attention getter
that is what she is doing with this news,she is getting attention!!...She really needs 2 focus on her life n a good way instead of acting like she does!! ..Because we all know that prince does not like 4 people 2 act like that!!!
Sorry 2 anybody that what I said may have offended..
but that is how I feel
I also would like 2 know about the Disability cuz
I don't understand what is disabled about her at all
look at the PICS of her she has on high heels and is standing just fine. ....I would never treat anyone bad because of a Disability...but she isn't explaining herself on why she titled the news post what she did!!
how does a story about prince not wanting her CD have anything to do with a Disability?
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Reply #171 posted 04/02/02 2:19am

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She is obviously MENTALLY DISABLED.

She's not 'covering that up' very well at all.

I feel sorry for Prince and the NPGMC members in the soundcheck.

She is clearly a loon!
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Reply #172 posted 04/02/02 2:43am

BackStagePass

dang christopher,
is that urs? if not then whose?
it was slammin!
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Reply #173 posted 04/02/02 3:21am

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Reply #174 posted 04/02/02 3:51am

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1.) The soundchecks r not auditions or casting calls. They're 2 make sure the sound is right and 4 the band to get loose & warm up. If dude took every solicitation from every artist in need of a break, he'd never get 2 perform. HAving said that, I can c how your feelings were hurt, especially after so much effort expended 2 get 2 the show, leading me to point...


I doubt she was auditioning....would it really take that much time out of his life 2 listen 2 a devoted fan's music??

Since someone said they saw this it isnt a joke.

Its quite sad what an asshole Prince has become. He should just take the cd and say "How thoughtful, thank you"

This was not a cast "call", this was a fan reaching out 2 her favorite musician.

Why cant u buffoons c that???
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Reply #175 posted 04/02/02 3:54am

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Well...all I can say is that if I was trying to get ready for a show and some1 brought a cd to me and told me they added a verse to a song that I wrote I would have smacked them across the face with sent them running home to momma...good and plenty fast! It's one thing to be inspired by someone but it's another to "add to" or "alter" a piece of art that they have created.


Dont be petty.
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Reply #176 posted 04/02/02 4:11am

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You know, this woman is exactly what's wrong with America. Can't a sane, normal person attend a concert without encountering someone of this type? Here are some other examples of recent people who I had the unfortunate experience of witnessing their psychosis firsthand. At a recent No Doubt concert, I stood in line next to a 16 year old girl who had brought Christmas presents for the band. Her gift to Gwen Stefani was some sort of girlie box with all sorts of unicorns and things like that and a $200 gift certificate to a local beauty shop her mother happened to own. She also wrote Stefani a letter. This girl had apparently dressed up like Gwen and tried to get her attention outside of some Mtv award show in Manhattan. Apparently, later that night, she heard from some guy in the crowd that Stefani had called her a "freak" and the main content of this letter was this 16 year old kid pouring her heart out to a silly pop star.

At a recent Alanis Morissette show, a twenty-something year old woman who could qualify as "obsessed" showed everyone in the line the articles she wrote about the singer for her high school newspaper. This girl had come all the way from Indiana to see this free concert, but had not gotten the pass she needed to get in. She went away weeping, when she found out she couldn't meet her idol.

At a Prince concert I went to in Buffalo, I had the unfortunate experience of a woman who thought this was the night...that she would be "discovered" by Prince. She had a portfolio of nude photos of herself, which, while fun to see, don't necessarily grant her the right to be as psychotic as she was. And why do the people sitting closest to these types always feel sorry for them and have to humor them?

Then, of course, we all have experienced the loud, obnoxious, drunk types. Of course, everyone is familiar with those and you have your own examples. At concerts, at movies, at plays - you know, the audience is paying to see the name on the ticket. We do not want to hear you talk to the screen at a movie theater. We do not want to know that you lost your virginity while listening to side B of Purple Rain. We do not care if you are an actress, dancer, singer or model. Neither does Prince. We have paid to see a performance by someone else - not for an invitation into your skewed version of reality. Not to see some woman who calls herself "Divinity" ramble on about her personal life and how she added words to an obscure Prince song. You know what? I think Prince is happy with the version he wrote. You do not have a relationship with these artists. You have bought their CDs, their movies, the ticket to their show. You are a consumer & they are a product. Your relationship begins and ends there. If you are a musician trying to get into the business, there are more logical avenues to travel. Being an annoying pest of a fan is not one of them. Your "direct contact" with Paisley Park is also suspect. It's more likely they were either trying to get rid of you nicely or get into your pants.

While Prince could have handled it better, for example, by taking the CD, telling you he'd listen to it later & tossing it in the trash back in his hotel & skipping the lecture, how about next time we all go to a concert, we sit down? At the soundcheck, we ask questions when we're told we can? We thank the performer and clap when it's over? Then we go home and post the review on prince.org? Not so hard, is it?
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Reply #177 posted 04/02/02 4:44am

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IrishEcho said:

You know, this woman is exactly what's wrong with America. Can't a sane, normal person attend a concert without encountering someone of this type? Here are some other examples of recent people who I had the unfortunate experience of witnessing their psychosis firsthand. At a recent No Doubt concert, I stood in line next to a 16 year old girl who had brought Christmas presents for the band. Her gift to Gwen Stefani was some sort of girlie box with all sorts of unicorns and things like that and a $200 gift certificate to a local beauty shop her mother happened to own. She also wrote Stefani a letter. This girl had apparently dressed up like Gwen and tried to get her attention outside of some Mtv award show in Manhattan. Apparently, later that night, she heard from some guy in the crowd that Stefani had called her a "freak" and the main content of this letter was this 16 year old kid pouring her heart out to a silly pop star.

At a recent Alanis Morissette show, a twenty-something year old woman who could qualify as "obsessed" showed everyone in the line the articles she wrote about the singer for her high school newspaper. This girl had come all the way from Indiana to see this free concert, but had not gotten the pass she needed to get in. She went away weeping, when she found out she couldn't meet her idol.

At a Prince concert I went to in Buffalo, I had the unfortunate experience of a woman who thought this was the night...that she would be "discovered" by Prince. She had a portfolio of nude photos of herself, which, while fun to see, don't necessarily grant her the right to be as psychotic as she was. And why do the people sitting closest to these types always feel sorry for them and have to humor them?

Then, of course, we all have experienced the loud, obnoxious, drunk types. Of course, everyone is familiar with those and you have your own examples. At concerts, at movies, at plays - you know, the audience is paying to see the name on the ticket. We do not want to hear you talk to the screen at a movie theater. We do not want to know that you lost your virginity while listening to side B of Purple Rain. We do not care if you are an actress, dancer, singer or model. Neither does Prince. We have paid to see a performance by someone else - not for an invitation into your skewed version of reality. Not to see some woman who calls herself "Divinity" ramble on about her personal life and how she added words to an obscure Prince song. You know what? I think Prince is happy with the version he wrote. You do not have a relationship with these artists. You have bought their CDs, their movies, the ticket to their show. You are a consumer & they are a product. Your relationship begins and ends there. If you are a musician trying to get into the business, there are more logical avenues to travel. Being an annoying pest of a fan is not one of them. Your "direct contact" with Paisley Park is also suspect. It's more likely they were either trying to get rid of you nicely or get into your pants.

While Prince could have handled it better, for example, by taking the CD, telling you he'd listen to it later & tossing it in the trash back in his hotel & skipping the lecture, how about next time we all go to a concert, we sit down? At the soundcheck, we ask questions when we're told we can? We thank the performer and clap when it's over? Then we go home and post the review on prince.org? Not so hard, is it?
[This message was edited Tue Apr 2 4:24:33 PST 2002 by IrishEcho]
[This message was edited Tue Apr 2 4:29:17 PST 2002 by IrishEcho]



Great post IrishEcho...I concur with you 100% on this one!!!

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Reply #178 posted 04/02/02 4:58am

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Divinity6 said:[quote]Orgnoting? I was messaged privately providing with contradictory information to what you posted here publically. I responded to each one of your responses, now I'm a pest, whatever. Funny I've gotten responses from a girl who simply asked a question at sound check & was not only ignored, but made fun of until she "sat quietly in her seat" also. Other stories reflect one girl tapping Prince on the shoulder & him flicking her in the forehead, a guy who was escorted out for approaching the stage while Prince was playing, one person being told not to look at Prince while he crouched with the mic between seats, etc. etc. I've gotten emails from people in foreign countries totally supporting me - one guy from France who worked at a venue & was snubbed by Prince. Apparently this is an on-going thing & needs to be discussed. I'm glad I was the catalyst to creating the conversation. quote]

Fine, if you find his actions that deplorable then move on. Don't perform "Purple Paisley Pumps" (Or the fifty other Prince tributes you wrote), leave this site and be happy.
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Reply #179 posted 04/02/02 5:10am

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herbthe4 said:



1.) The soundchecks r not auditions or casting calls. They're 2 make sure the sound is right and 4 the band to get loose & warm up. If dude took every solicitation from every artist in need of a break, he'd never get 2 perform. HAving said that, I can c how your feelings were hurt, especially after so much effort expended 2 get 2 the show, leading me to point...


I doubt she was auditioning....would it really take that much time out of his life 2 listen 2 a devoted fan's music??

Since someone said they saw this it isnt a joke.

Its quite sad what an asshole Prince has become. He should just take the cd and say "How thoughtful, thank you"

This was not a cast "call", this was a fan reaching out 2 her favorite musician.

Why cant u buffoons c that???



Nep, shut the fuck up....you weren't there, you dont know what happened, but I WAS, and so were several other people...dont be an idiot. Prince was NOT an asshole, he was very kind to her, and this chick is twisting this story to make it look like he did something wrong. If you're dumbass knew anything about the music biz, u would know for legal reasons, Prince (nor any other artists for that matter) cannot accept music from people off the street, and he TOLD her as such...but she was so busy running her mouth she never heard it, so she took it the wrong way.
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