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PrintableObscure said: MAJOR MAJOR technical difficulties. Someone at HOB should've informed audience. He was there on time and ready to play; wait was no fault of his own. Then the amp blew up. so now you can see why the events played out has they have.
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theblueangel said: ELBOOGY said: I agree with u Anxiety, people who don't play in a band or a major band do not understand the difficulties of playing aftershows....
Oh, okay, that's my problem. I was never in a major band, just a few minor ones here and there.  I was'nt dissin small bands but i was tryin 2 say that a Major artist coming 2 a club 2 play an aftershow is not as easy as showing up. People don't understand the security aspects of the biz or if an agreement between P's peeps and the clubs peeps had 2 b ironed out and last minute details rearrainged? All shows r not the same..period! U never know what the circumstances r! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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SassyBritches said: ELBOOGY said: Aftershows are like this....some of them r incredible and others r shitty thats just how live music is. And 2 say that u'll never go 2 another 1 based on this experience is your right but it's a stupid 1 4sho!
so is writing in princebonics. Well 4 1 thing Sly was 1 of the 1st artist 2 write this way beeeaaaatch! And 4 another thing i was'nt even talkin 2 u but since u took it there FA'U!....thats french 4 don't ever start some shit with some1 that was'nt addressin U! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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lovemachine said: bkw said: The show sounds pretty dissapointing.
It sounds like he mad some bad setlist choices and wasn't in the best mood. Shit happens. Even P is allowed a bad night every now and then. I'm not so sure that he is if he is going to charge people $75. ----- No one forces people to go to the concert. Any event you pay for can turn out good or bad. Let's hope the booing does not stop him from doing these after shows and people realize how these events are quickly put together and not like regular concerts. | |
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theblueangel said: Fan...dan....go?
Ho....Hobo Camp!!!!!  I'm moist as a snackcake down there! Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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SassyBritches said: Anxiety said: to me, booing someone means you despise them and want them to leave. would you have been happy if they had just ended the show early as a response to your booing? would that have accomplished what you set out to do? i guess i'm just not understanding what effect you were after.
you know, its funny. i always hear performers speak of how they love performing live because they get instant crowd reaction. i suppose they only really mean that if they get positive crowd reaction. But of course! WHo likes negative crowd reaction? I have played live before and I love it for that reason and that it gives me lots of positive energy if it goes well. I would imagine that boos would make me want to stop go home and re-evaluate. And probably be weary of playing again. I never think it's good to put down someones show, unless someone is really messing with the audience or is such a loser on stage or something like that (i.e. Primal scream starting 2 hrs late and the singer still came out drunk and could barely perform...to me THAT gets a boo.) But if someone is just not having a good night or if there are technical difficulties (which suck suck SUCK...um where is that buzzing coming from???!!!) it's not any reason to put down a show. I know that saying "you know how he is" is not a good answer...but You know how he is! Right when I heard on the radio about the show, I turned to my friend and said "Hella No!" it's gonna be 75-100 bucks, you can only get one ticket and it'll start late and it'll be a rehash of the concert or something like that" I've not been to that many aftershows, but have heard about them...long waits outside in the cold, high prices, packed clubs (imagine if it was the Metro) and long waits inside...and sometimes it's not what people expect (he doesn't show or it's just a dj. Not to mention this probably brought in all kinds of yahoos. It sounded like a typical Aftershow to me...albeit not a really good one but it had some bright spots. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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31. The aftershow was one of the hottest jam sessions I've ever been too. The only bad vibes there were coming off the north-side-wanna-be-hipster types who apparently don't grok funk or jams.
well put! 54. Pathetic! is the price everyone paid to hear a jam session of funk music instead of a classic intimate Prince performance!
Do these people listen to prince speak as well? or just follow again the RADIO!!! he has said time & time again the whole muciology philosophy is based off takin it back to the JAM days & giving props to the larry grahams & maceos etc etc, tthat is what his after party is all about, im sorry if this pisses me off, the man is providing an education for in reality a small price, ABSORB & SMILE seems back to back parties people bitchin bout same thing, at least some people, if you want to see prince play prince songs goto the concert! if you wanna see history in the making go to the after party, & dont expect to hear his stuff, expect classic covers, that you will never see performed like that, especially since many of us here were not around to see the original people do it, so now you get a chance to see the next best thing, prince payin tribute to his idols, while people stand & boo because no purple rain was played, please! step back & check yourself, if you got in free you be talkin bout how it was the best thing you had ever been too... respect to all word up  [This message was edited Thu Jul 29 2:05:54 2004 by soulrez1200] | |
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Yeah that's true, "No Diggity" IS a classic, and sadly so many of us weren't around when Blackstreet was playing it. 
If you read the posts on here, you'll see that all the orgers who were in attendance are well aware that aftershows frequently feature many covers. However, Prince was hardly playing anything at all. Shit, I've been more interested in bar bands that I've paid $2 cover for - there's just no variety in this set at all. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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.....And nobody was wishing for Purple Rain. That would have been silly since he played a great long version at the end of the concert. Mountains would have been nice though! No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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soulrez1200 said: 31. The aftershow was one of the hottest jam sessions I've ever been too. The only bad vibes there were coming off the north-side-wanna-be-hipster types who apparently don't grok funk or jams.
well put! 54. Pathetic! is the price everyone paid to hear a jam session of funk music instead of a classic intimate Prince performance!
Do these people listen to prince speak as well? or just follow again the RADIO!!! he has said time & time again the whole muciology philosophy is based off takin it back to the JAM days & giving props to the larry grahams & maceos etc etc, tthat is what his after party is all about, im sorry if this pisses me off, the man is providing an education for in reality a small price, ABSORB & SMILE seems back to back parties people bitchin bout same thing, at least some people, if you want to see prince play prince songs goto the concert! if you wanna see history in the making go to the after party, & dont expect to hear his stuff, expect classic covers, that you will never see performed like that, especially since many of us here were not around to see the original people do it, so now you get a chance to see the next best thing, prince payin tribute to his idols, while people stand & boo because no purple rain was played, please! step back & check yourself, if you got in free you be talkin bout how it was the best thing you had ever been too... respect to all word up
[This message was edited Thu Jul 29 2:05:54 2004 by soulrez1200] I'm guessing you haven't read any threads about this show. People werent' booing because he wasn't playing Purple Rain it was because HE wasn't playing anything. I wasn't there but I'm not sure I would call Prince standing by the side of the stage watching other musicians "history in the making". Especially when this history was like 3 1/2 hours late. | |
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ELBOOGY said: SassyBritches said: so is writing in princebonics. Well 4 1 thing Sly was 1 of the 1st artist 2 write this way beeeaaaatch! And 4 another thing i was'nt even talkin 2 u but since u took it there FA'U!....thats french 4 don't ever start some shit with some1 that was'nt addressin U! 
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BlueEyedAngel said: What did everyone expect? Thats how the aftershows are!
Obviously you've never been to an aftershow... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Neversin said: Obviously you've never been to an aftershow...
Exactly...though I've only heard dozens of aftershows on disc and wasn't there personally, this sure wasn't representative of any of the brilliance that is generally on display. Maybe it would be accurate to say "that's how aftershow are on this tour," or something like that....although as recently as February he was playing kick-ass aftershows....granted, they were all the same songs from the concert, which is odd, but they were SONGS and he PLAYED on them. Novel idea, that! No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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ELBOOGY said: SassyBritches said: so is writing in princebonics. Well 4 1 thing Sly was 1 of the 1st artist 2 write this way beeeaaaatch! And 4 another thing i was'nt even talkin 2 u but since u took it there FA'U!....thats french 4 don't ever start some shit with some1 that was'nt addressin U! then, elboogy, eye suggest u start quotin' muthafuckas so beeeaaaatches know who the fuck u're talkin' at. was that better for you...i mean, with the princebonics and swearing and all? oh, and by the way, if you're going to use princebonics you may want to drop the swearing. see, prince wouldn't approve of that. 
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theblueangel said: Yeah that's true, "No Diggity" IS a classic, and sadly so many of us weren't around when Blackstreet was playing it.
If you read the posts on here, you'll see that all the orgers who were in attendance are well aware that aftershows frequently feature many covers. However, Prince was hardly playing anything at all. Shit, I've been more interested in bar bands that I've paid $2 cover for - there's just no variety in this set at all. See and that's another thing. People paid 75 for a Huge concert and then 75 for a smaller one. I think people were expecting more of the same at the aftershow. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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But I would have been fine with a set of cover songs, if it was PRINCE and the band playing them, not The NPG with special guest star Prince.
It says PRINCE on the ticket, big and bold. I think that's what people were expecting, not someone strumming a guitar with his back turned on the audience as the curtain rises, only to shortly retire to the keyboard at the back on the extreme left of the stage. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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Hey Andrew, you sure know how to stir things up!
Seriously though, it doesn't sound like the kind of show I would have enjoyed, either. I've only been to one aftershow, (Emporium 23-3-95) and we were kept waiting for hours for 0(+> (as he was then calling himself) to start the show. But when he set foot on the stage all that was forgotten - almost 3 hours of amazing performance, with very few covers. I've heard many more aftershows, and to be honest the ones that are cropping up on this tour don't seem to have the same vibe as "back in the day". (Although Club Black is pretty awesome) I hope he does a couple of aftershows when he finally gets over here, because quite frankly the actual gigs aren't my cup of tea either. However, I won't expect anything like the old aftershows, but I would want more than this. All orgnotes and emails requesting trades or how to acquire bootleggage will be ignored. - The ThreadKiller - | |
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SassyBritches said: ELBOOGY said: Well 4 1 thing Sly was 1 of the 1st artist 2 write this way beeeaaaatch! And 4 another thing i was'nt even talkin 2 u but since u took it there FA'U!....thats french 4 don't ever start some shit with some1 that was'nt addressin U! then, elboogy, eye suggest u start quotin' muthafuckas so beeeaaaatches know who the fuck u're talkin' at. was that better for you...i mean, with the princebonics and swearing and all? oh, and by the way, if you're going to use princebonics you may want to drop the swearing. see, prince wouldn't approve of that.
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ELBOOGY said: SassyBritches said: then, elboogy, eye suggest u start quotin' muthafuckas so beeeaaaatches know who the fuck u're talkin' at. was that better for you...i mean, with the princebonics and swearing and all? oh, and by the way, if you're going to use princebonics you may want to drop the swearing. see, prince wouldn't approve of that.
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Did someone say nuts?
A big ol' sack, please.... 'smiley sac is here! [should've just posted the link and a warning instead of the pic itself...don't want anyone to get in trouble at work for lookin at this, mmm?--Dansa] No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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theblueangel said: 
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SassyBritches said: ELBOOGY said: I ain't Prince and i do swear,cuss or whatever the Fuck u wanna call it 2 MF's who Fuck with me which u obviously like doing bcuz yo'ass ain't standin in front of me talkin yo'Bullshit! Now take yo lightweight ASS 2 somebody elses NUTS!
All of this back and forth negative energy needs 2 stop. Sassy baby lets just go and F'each others brains out, eat some grapes and watch this great bootleg of a P aftershow in Atlanta! Kisses&Grinds! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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ELBOOGY said: SassyBritches said: All of this back and forth negative energy needs 2 stop. Sassy baby lets just go and F'each others brains out, eat some grapes and watch this great bootleg of a P aftershow in Atlanta! Kisses&Grinds! love makes the world go 'round!  | |
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Hey Elboogy, count me in!!! I'll bring my boots too. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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Y'all ever heard "Volkswagen Blues"? I think that's the name of this live aftershow track I'm listening to...sounds like Gold-era NPG to me. Fuckin' HOT. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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theblueangel said: Y'all ever heard "Volkswagen Blues"? I think that's the name of this live aftershow track I'm listening to...sounds like Gold-era NPG to me. Fuckin' HOT.
i have some untitled comp of live tracks and that is one of them...so good! you know, besides the new !!! record, all i've been listening to is brilliant live aftershow recordings! | |
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never being to an aftershow whatever, in LA same thing, people pissed cuz he didnt play prince songs, in NYC same thing, chicago same thing, funny he played pretty much same sets at the "celebration" event in MN, but people thought it was sick...
as fo no diggity, you r right  but chance kills it...
if i was in npg & read these reviews i'd be prtty pissed that the fans dont appreciate the band... the purple one seems to have a lot of unappreciative fans.. most the people bitching come to this board & read the after party reviews yet they expect it to be different in their town... crazy... & as for comparing their jam to any normal house band?!?! PLEASE!!! as for all the larry graham haters, please quit, you dont like him cool... but dont disrespect the man for playin let me be my self, cuz we all know when tht shit bumps on your radio you turn it up! & lets keep in mind had it not been for peeps like larry, Prince wouldnt be who he is today str8 up! so P gives the man love... blue angel drinks on me when we meet!!! much respect to all | |
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soulrez1200 said: ...funny he played pretty much same sets at the "celebration" event in MN, but people thought it was sick...
Well.....actually, I said basically the same thing about those shows, just much quieter and more quickly, so as not to hurt anyone's feelings, like I did this time.
I was with Sassy and his boyfriend and I'm sure part of the reason we three were so fed up at the House of Blues was because it was pretty much the same set. We weren't expecting Prince songs per se, but we thought that even No Diggity might be made bearable with Prince on guitar, or on SOMEthing, for that matter! (Okay, he'd have to really tear shit up on that one!) Soulrez, thanks for the *BURP!!!* drink! No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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I was feeling you until the 75.00 part..first I barely paid 75.00 for my tix for the san diego show on 9/5/04. I've been to his concerts and everyone else's and I don't do after parties unless it is free or at a club, sorry but, some things are a plain rip off....I pay only a certain amount for anyone tixs even my honey Keith Sweat....
theblueangel said: Here are some interesting comments made on this site (http://metromix.chicagotribune.com) about the 7/24 Chicago aftershow:
5. The after set was weak-I'd like the most ardent Prince fans to defend that show based on the performance and not that it was Prince. Covers done by NPG band members all night was a let down. The only time Maceo (who was great)soloed was when Prince told him to. Show went nowhere. Submitted by: Partyoveroopsoutoftime 8:16 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 6. This was horrible. False advertising! we are huge fans and we got there & all he did was cover other songs, drag people up and dance with them, and have no formal show with any old songs at all. It was really really poor and he should feel awful for the fans he let down. Submitted by: Prince as a cover band 7:43 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 8. I've spent my life listening to the best jam bands out there. This was not a concert, and definitely not a jam. I've never heard professional artists just stick in the same boring riff over and over, and on every song, too. Submitted by: No jam here 7:10 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 10. Just because you're a 'true' fan of artist 'X' doesn't mean you have to like everything he/she does. 'True' fans can and should be critical. Submitted by: music fan 7:00 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 11. I too only saw it advertised as a Prince CONCERT. The musicians who played were fine musicians, but when you pay $80 you are paying to see/hear the legend himself. That is not what we got. Submitted by: In the same boat 6:53 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 14. I didn't pay $75 (plus fees) to watch Maceo on a Sax and Prince chill in the background. If that is what he wanted to do, fine! But tell us that beforehand and you will only get people there who want to see that. Submitted by: reality 6:10 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 15. I went to his show at Alstate and at H.O.B. The first was a concert, the second was a prime example of someone not wanting to be anywhere near the stage. Submitted by: debbie 6:08 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 18. I am a true Prince fan, and have been to several aftershows on his tour already this year. This one was by far the worst. He didn't look like he wanted to be there. Submitted by: jeff s 6:03 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 22. At this concert Prince was definitely worthy of a throne, a porcelain one! Submitted by: Prince of feces 5:40 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 25. The Artist Formerly Known as Price is now known as the King of Suxville. Submitted by: Royal Highass 5:27 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 31. I would have rather paid for a bikini wax then the show he put on. What a waste Submitted by: purplepain 4:23 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 32. If he was too tired to put on a show, then dont nap behind the keyboards all night, and dont take my money. Go home, suck on your baby bottle, and retire. Submitted by: BanPrince 4:21 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 36. This Was My First Prince Concert Ever. No Matter How Good Everone Thinks He Is. He is Still awful Submitted by: Harry Choda 4:08 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 38. Beyond disappinting! Saw an afterparty of his previously where he respected that his fans appreciate his musical talent AND the songs that they have connected to throughout his career. This was just pretentious Submitted by: AS 3:51 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 39. How arrogant can you be to make everyone wait til 3:30AM, Suck, and know the sound was terrible, and not apologize. I want my money back!!! Submitted by: Princesucks 3:49 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 40. He showed us exactly why he wanted to be called the artist formally known as Prince b/c what we saw was in no way a Prince concert! HE SUCKS!! Submitted by: kim3 3:45 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 41. Pathetic! is the price everyone paid to hear a jam session of funk music instead of a classic intimate Prince performance! Submitted by: kim2 3:44 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 42. Ridiculous!is how to describe the time waiting for him to make an appearance. That is really all he did was make an apperance, we heard musicians perform NOT Prince! Disappointing! is the joke of a display we watched at the HOB. Submitted by: kim 3:44 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 44. I can agree with talented musicians but I didn't pay 80 bucks to see them. I paid for Prince. Submitted by: j 3:08 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 48. Really, who do you call to get your money back."Funk his show" it was HORRIBLE Submitted by: showmemymoney 2:59 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 49. This is awful - they advertised a Prince concert and what we got was musak. Everyone should call and ask for their money back. Submitted by: j.p. 2:52 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 50. Absolutely and completely terrible....although he's very talented man, he has no right to make everyone wait until after the 3 am to come onstage and suck Submitted by: ct 2:42 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 51. Ok, who do I call to get my money back? Submitted by: mad 2:41 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 52. Real Bad. Submitted by: john 1:58 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 58. Sucked. I will never waste a cent on Prince again. If I wanted to go to a jam session, I would go to my husband's rehearsal space. It's all about the $$ for Prince. It was SUPPOSED TO BE A PRINCE CONCERT. Submitted by: Liz Williams 12:35 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 59. I saw his first Chicago show so I had high expectations for this aftershow. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT!!! Submitted by: marie 12:33 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 60. There was no love left to give when he came on at 3:15. Didn't pick up his guitar until 4:30. Played only 1 song of his own w/a 20-sec tease of House Quake ... the only moment that woke up the crowd. He rocked at the end but it was too little, too late - literally. Major bummer. Submitted by: longtimeprincefan 12:31 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 61. There are a lot of great musicians that don't charge you 75 bucks. That's when it's about the music. Submitted by: Iworkformymoney 12:21 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 62. Loved it!! His cover of "Sussudio" was amazing! Submitted by: Manoj 12:21 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 64. Prince is no longer about his fans and all about the money! He's a sell out and I agree, His show was HORRIBLE! Submitted by: Pathetic 12:10 PM CDT, July 26, 2004 67. REALLY BAD....never see him again no matter what. Paid $75 to see a bunch of the audience dance on stage and here a band jam session. Prince is a real a--hole and is just in it for the $$$. That was a definite $15 show. Submitted by: Me 11:59 AM CDT, July 26, 2004 70. Umm, when people start booing and chanting "We want Prince" when your back-up band is playing, any real musician would come out and give the audience WHAT IT PAID TO SEE! Submitted by: Common Sense 11:13 AM CDT, July 26, 2004 71. That was completely depressing. He barely sang, and I could barely find him on stage for most of the show. I paid for a Prince concert, not a backup band jam session! Submitted by: John V. 11:12 AM CDT, July 26, 2004 Just, you know, to give some perspective and show that it was far more than a couple of us who were extremely disappointed and bitter after the show. Like I said before, one of the bouncers said that "hundreds" of people complained to him about wanting their money back and the fact that Prince was hiding behind the keyboards, when he wasn't running backstage to get a hummer from Mani. (That's a joke, lighten up, willya? )San Diego's Finest | |
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soulrez1200 said: never being to an aftershow whatever, in LA same thing, people pissed cuz he didnt play prince songs, in NYC same thing, chicago same thing, funny he played pretty much same sets at the "celebration" event in MN, but people thought it was sick...
I agree with u. If u look at past boots of P's aftershows he's always done covers from the Small Club boot 2 the Gold Experience boots. He pretty much jamz on covers and some chosen 1's from his catalog. P's aftershows r mostly gumbo funk!as fo no diggity, you r right but chance kills it...
if i was in npg & read these reviews i'd be prtty pissed that the fans dont appreciate the band... the purple one seems to have a lot of unappreciative fans.. most the people bitching come to this board & read the after party reviews yet they expect it to be different in their town... crazy... & as for comparing their jam to any normal house band?!?! PLEASE!!! as for all the larry graham haters, please quit, you dont like him cool... but dont disrespect the man for playin let me be my self, cuz we all know when tht shit bumps on your radio you turn it up! & lets keep in mind had it not been for peeps like larry, Prince wouldnt be who he is today str8 up! so P gives the man love... blue angel drinks on me when we meet!!! much respect to all U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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