I don't think many people are saying the actual performance was bad per se, it was just that we didn't go to see LG and CH dominate the stage and most of the songs to be covers. How would it have been if it was Zamfir and his Pan Flute but Prince stood in the background banging away on a triangle? http://panflute.net/zamfir/zamfir.html
Would we still not be able to Boo or complain afterwards? Especially after waiting over 3 hours. The NPG all showed their stuff (Greg's solo on trombone was something else!!) so that's not the point. It's simply the disrespect that was shown to all of us by the extreme wait. I can't believe some people are such fanatics that they accept chronic lateness from him. You can't defend him always being late so don't criticize those that step forward to express their frustration in hopes that some magical day, he will start getting his little ass in gear and getting to the stage at the advertised time. Be it a concert or aftershow.

Anxiety said:

you know, its funny. i always hear performers speak of how they love performing live because they get instant crowd reaction. i suppose they only really mean that if they get positive crowd reaction.

Is there anyone else here who DIDN'T go to the Chicago aftershow and is reading all of this and feeling a little like Rip Van Winkle? Like: "Damn! I sleep for one night and it feels like 100 years. What did I miss???"

I was bummed that I had to be out of town Saturday night. Had I been in town, it's probable that I would have attended. I don't know how I would have felt. Based on these comments, I doubt that I would have been categorically blown away by the evening. Based on my personality and my love for Prince, it's equally unlikely that I would be as pissed off as what I'm reading on this thread.

Shockingly, I now find myself feeling LUCKY that I missed it. Time for me to head on over to a thread that is ranking the album tracks of today's choice so you guys can fight in peace!

Keith/Kacey

Anxiety said:

So if you boo a sports team does that mean you want them to leave or you want them to play better?

SassyBritches said:

Exactly, Sassy. The intended "effect" of the "We want Prince!" chants followed by the boos when he hid behind the keyboard was the same intended "effect" when I jump up and down and clap until my hands are bleeding at every Musicology tour show I've seen this year....to let the performers know how we feel about what's going down.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that there was a roped-off NPGMC section, but I would be fairly confident that a good 75%+ of the people up front are club members. I was just saying that there was no effort to address the entire crowd, except telling people in the balcony to put their hands up in the air and dance to No Diggity.

I hope nobody thinks I'm trying to make this personal, and maybe it's just my stupid ass thinking someone's getting personal with me, but for the record I have a background in music too. I was once a music major. I've played 3 instruments, and really mastered 2 of them if I'm gonna toot my horn, haha. I love music and I have love and respect for musicians.

I don't think that gives me any more or less of a valid opinion on anything music-related, and I never proclaim that it does. And it kinda gets my goat when people on here do that, because it's just bullshit.

To be honest, I'm quite shocked to hear of the outraged feelings of many about some booing at a rock concert. Someone at the club even said that chanting "We want Prince" is rude....I know that nobody on here has gone to that extreme, and I'm certainly not making any claim that I was polite, either. Just like when I was leaving it wasn't polite of the bouncer to say he was gonna bounce my head off the fucking ground. Just like it wasn't polite when one of the bouncers pushed our friend into another girl. Just like six trillion things that Prince has done wasn't polite. Not that this was some sort of retaliation or anything, but Jesus, it's not like we fucking stoned him or anything.

Although like I said, if my aim was good and my arm was strong enough, I very well might have chucked my empty plastic water bottle onstage...that was how badly I wanted Prince to know that he had crossed the line, and that people who had in good faith shelled out lots of dough for him and expended a lot of energy getting to the venue were pissed.

I respect art and I respect musicians...but a shitty performance is a shitty performance, and that baby had big ol' undigested chunks of corn and broccoli.


the "somebody bring me a plate o' sassafrass!" edit
[This message was edited Tue Jul 27 16:55:59 2004 by theblueangel]

Man, I just read some really icky comments in the club. I do find it hilarious how people are so much more condemning on the club than they are here...suckle those teats.

I think people who dare to do something so utterly REPULSIVE as boo at a rock concert should be forced to suck Larry Graham's cock for eternity. I'm disgusted with myself. It has reinforced everything bad that I've ever thought about myself for doing it. If only I wasn't so concerned with looking cool all the time, sigh.



the *suck it yo* edit, jeesh!
[This message was edited Tue Jul 27 17:17:40 2004 by theblueangel]

theblueangel said:

all i can think of at this very moment is larry g repeating his "give it to me, now" line. only now there is something even more disturbing about it.

Anxiety said:

I agree with u Anxiety, people who don't play in a band or a major band do not understand the difficulties of playing aftershows. That's y P is in a class all by himself, just 4 doing them thru his whole career. If he's having major Tech. problems that can mess up the flow of the show and setlist as well as the enthusiasm that the band needs 2 perform. $ has nothing 2 do with P's performances.... i saw him 4 $5 back in the day and played 4 3hours and 1 of my top 5 P shows. Aftershows are like this....some of them r incredible and others r shitty thats just how live music is. And 2 say that u'll never go 2 another 1 based on this experience is your right but it's a stupid 1 4sho!

ELBOOGY said:

so is writing in princebonics.

ELBOOGY said:

Oh, okay, that's my problem. I was never in a major band, just a few minor ones here and there.

I Wasn't there but I CERTAINLY WANT PRINCE to do MORE AFTERSHOWS. I Really Wish People would STOP Attacking Larry Graham so much. He is a GREAT MUSICIAN...Prince shouldn't SUBJECT LARRY to this ANYMORE...It's NOT RIGHT.... Fans are DISRESPECTING him...He Doesn't Deserve that and NEITHER does the JEHOVAH WHITNESS Faith. Prince should Realize Fans Want to see HIM ONLY and Not these Other MUSICIANS. Look at all the Backlash about this show.

You know, different people express their emotions in different ways at a concert.

For example, some people have professed that they've never booed at a concert before. I would wager that those same people have never jumped up and down and clapped their hands in glee for 2 hours at a concert before, either.

I've done both.

lovemachine said:

i can't answer that because i hate sports and have never been to a sporting event, nor do i have any desire to do so in the foreseeable future.

SassyBritches said:

so would it be more honest and balanced if a performer were to talk about how invigorating it is to be heckled? i'm not sure if i get your point. i think g.g. allin liked getting booed. is that what you mean?

theblueangel said:

i think this is one of those "...and if my aunt had a wee-wee she'd be my uncle" moments. in all due respect, what's your point?

theblueangel said:

and some of those people aren't so naive or stupid as to think that those who check out the org forums wouldn't also check out the comments at the club. those same people would most likely tell you they stand by everything they write, regardless of where it's posted. just sayin'.

maybe one day i'll be a seasoned enough connoisseur of aftershows to know what's acceptable and what's not. until then, i have this apparent sycophantic urge to enjoy myself when one of my favorite performers takes the stage, and to make the best of it when the situation is less than ideal. if that makes me a gross loser, then gross loserness is my lot in life. woe...

The show sounds pretty dissapointing.

It sounds like he mad some bad setlist choices and wasn't in the best mood. Shit happens. Even P is allowed a bad night every now and then.

Man, get over yourselves - a little booing never did anyone any harm.

What do u think he did? ...Went backstage and broke down in tears? Puh-leeze!

Besides, I would've asked 4 my money back too if I'd had 2 listen 2 him cover Phil Collin's 'Sussidio'...

bananacologne said:

Hey Nanners. I think someone was trying to be funny when they mentioned Sussidio. He didn't play it.

Wow- this must have really sucked. I find it hard to believe, but unlike some fans I am fully aware that Prince can, does and will make alot of mistakes. And sometimes he is even completely wrong. (GASP!)

I thought "Sussidio" was a joke that someone was making to signify how bad the show was.... did he really cover that? Whats next? 99 Luft Balloons? (what's german for "purple"?)

$75 is ludicrous. How much money does this guy need? I cant help but agree with a lot of you that Prince seems to care more about his fans money than his actual fans. Hitting the stage at 3:30 is REALLY pushing it. We dont all play music for a living- some of us have to work traditional jobs.

I wasnt there and even with these reviews I wish I had been just to see for myself.

By the way, cant find anything negative about this show on NPGMC as of 9am NYC time. Think they removed the posts?

bkw said:

I'm not so sure that he is if he is going to charge people $75.

Anxiety said:

Well, I should clarify that I don't think anyone is a gross loser, and certainly not anyone participating in this debate...in fact, most of the people I'm disagreeing with the most on this issue and apparently (and unfortunately) upsetting in the process are good friends of mine, yourself included Anxiety.

I do and always have found it gross to see how people's posts differ from the org to the NPGMC.....but I blame that on the ickiness of the club's forum, and I know that many people don't hold that same low opinion on the club, which is cool. I just think it ends up turning fans against each other by promoting ass-kissing behavior.....but maybe that also has something to do with the fact that I'm not able to respond to anything in that forum, and I hate that feeling.

Sassy and I most definitely made the best of a "less than ideal" situation Friday night.....obviously, our version of making the best of something differs from yours, which is cool with me and hopefully cool with you. I'll say again that I don't mean any disrespect to anyone who enjoyed the show, and I'm genuinely glad that not everyone felt as disappointed as I/we did.

Anxiety said:


I wasn't trying to be obtuse. My point was "people express their emotions at concerts in different ways." Some people are more reserved, and some people enjoy letting it all out. I don't think anyone should condemn them for that.

I'm gonna try to shut my damn mouth up about this issue, at least on these boards....

I actually regret that I said anything at all, because I've strained relations with 2 of the best friends I've ever had (hey, that may be sad, but it's true!) - so I guess I'd like to plea with those 2 people to not dislike me over anything I've said on here. I love you guys, you're very important to me, and I hope you know that. You're much more important than a fucking Prince aftershow.

BlueEyedAngel said:

That's 4 sure, those folk that started the "booing" (and don't take this the wrong way...every1 is entitled 2 thier own opinoin) set the mood 4the rest of the evening. I'm sure Prince was piised-off!!! Who could tell, if the peeps were booing him or Larry!

Personally, I enjoy the show..I was there 4 the music and also had my good friends with me, so we had r own private party!

Jill

ctg.homesead.com

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I was being ironical babes!

bananacologne said:

It's the crack!

BTW, your avvie is killing me!!!

Yeah, that sounded like a decent show for $25, but not for $75. I will never go to an "aftershow" where I have to pay $75...just crazy and not in the spirt of the whole "aftershow thang".

Fan...dan....go?

Ho....Hobo Camp!!!!!

MAJOR MAJOR technical difficulties. Someone at HOB should've informed audience. He was there on time and ready to play; wait was no fault of his own. Then the amp blew up. so now you can see why the events played out has they have.