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Thread started 02/21/04 11:34am

DigitalLisa

The Reason Why The Passion is not accurate

Jesus was not white basically. neutral
When will there be a document of the full truth ? That's the movie I'm waiting 4 nod

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[This message was edited Sat Feb 21 11:36:17 2004 by DigitalLisa]
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Reply #1 posted 02/21/04 11:37am

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Wrong forum, sweety. smile
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Reply #2 posted 02/21/04 11:38am

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Wrong forum, sweety. smile

My bad

maybe Dansa will changed it 4 me

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maybe Dansa will changed it 4 me


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Reply #4 posted 02/21/04 8:10pm

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DigitalLisa said:

Jesus was not white basically. neutral
When will there be a document of the full truth ? That's the movie I'm waiting 4 nod

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[This message was edited Sat Feb 21 11:36:17 2004 by DigitalLisa]


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Reply #5 posted 02/21/04 8:31pm

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namepeace said:

DigitalLisa said:

Jesus was not white basically. neutral
When will there be a document of the full truth ? That's the movie I'm waiting 4 nod

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No movie ever will be.

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Reply #6 posted 02/22/04 12:48am

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DigitalLisa said:

Jesus was not white basically. neutral
When will there be a document of the full truth ? That's the movie I'm waiting 4 nod

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[This message was edited Sat Feb 21 11:36:17 2004 by DigitalLisa]



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Reply #7 posted 02/22/04 3:07am

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Just out of interest, what colour skin then do you think the actor should have had?!

I haven't seen the movie, however, I think if we're all going to quibble over Jesus's skin colour, then it will be a pity, since it seems then that the main message of the movie will have been lost on all of us.

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Diva said:

Just out of interest, what colour skin then do you think the actor should have had?!

I haven't seen the movie, however, I think if we're all going to quibble over Jesus's skin colour, then it will be a pity, since it seems then that the main message of the movie will have been lost on all of us.

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well...this jesus does have brown eyes and has less of a european look then what we have seen in the past but... my problem is that mel gibson went on a rant saying this film was the most historically accurate telling of the story..well then shouldnt jesus look a lil more african then european?
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Reply #9 posted 02/22/04 11:17am

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sosgemini said:

Diva said:

Just out of interest, what colour skin then do you think the actor should have had?!

I haven't seen the movie, however, I think if we're all going to quibble over Jesus's skin colour, then it will be a pity, since it seems then that the main message of the movie will have been lost on all of us.

twocents



well...this jesus does have brown eyes and has less of a european look then what we have seen in the past but... my problem is that mel gibson went on a rant saying this film was the most historically accurate telling of the story..well then shouldnt jesus look a lil more african then european?


Excatly! The fact is that most people would be happy thinking that Jesus looked like awhite blue eyed surfer with wavy blonde hair. Surfer Christ!
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Reply #10 posted 02/22/04 11:45am

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sosgemini said:

Diva said:

Just out of interest, what colour skin then do you think the actor should have had?!

I haven't seen the movie, however, I think if we're all going to quibble over Jesus's skin colour, then it will be a pity, since it seems then that the main message of the movie will have been lost on all of us.

twocents



well...this jesus does have brown eyes and has less of a european look then what we have seen in the past but... my problem is that mel gibson went on a rant saying this film was the most historically accurate telling of the story..well then shouldnt jesus look a lil more african then european?


I hear ya, but I would say he most likely looked more middle eastern than african... he was a Jew, perhaps then an Israeli/Jewish person should play him eh?!

I guess I just don't think it's big deal, none of us truly know what he looked like... do we?!
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Reply #11 posted 02/22/04 1:31pm

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Diva said:

I hear ya, but I would say he most likely looked more middle eastern than african... he was a Jew, perhaps then an Israeli/Jewish person should play him eh?!

I guess I just don't think it's big deal, none of us truly know what he looked like... do we?!



i do..i watched the discovery channel interview.. giggle

seriously though...he should look less like Colin Farrell and more like Colin Powell.. two times giggle giggle

or at least armand asanti..but not this beautiful black haired cuttie...

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Reply #12 posted 02/22/04 6:40pm

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sosgemini said:

Diva said:

I hear ya, but I would say he most likely looked more middle eastern than african... he was a Jew, perhaps then an Israeli/Jewish person should play him eh?!

I guess I just don't think it's big deal, none of us truly know what he looked like... do we?!



i do..i watched the discovery channel interview.. giggle

seriously though...he should look less like Colin Farrell and more like Colin Powell.. two times giggle giggle

or at least armand asanti..but not this beautiful black haired cuttie...



hehe...

He is pretty damn beautiful isn't he?! love

I guess since his innitials are JC they thought he would be the appropriate choice. giggle wink
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Reply #13 posted 02/23/04 2:01am

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This is how Jesus might have looked like, according to
a recent BBC documentary.

Source: http://www.docos.com/news...Jesus.html
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Reply #14 posted 02/23/04 8:35am

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I think the bible says...skin the color of bronze and hair like wool.

But in some ways, i don't really care. Jesus is Jesus and I'm down with him. I'mma part of his crew. biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 02/23/04 8:52am

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I have more of a problem with the way the movie is being promoted than the potrayal of Christ. "Help make this movie the biggest of all time" is way tacky.
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Reply #16 posted 02/24/04 12:44am

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sosgemini said:

Diva said:

I hear ya, but I would say he most likely looked more middle eastern than african... he was a Jew, perhaps then an Israeli/Jewish person should play him eh?!

I guess I just don't think it's big deal, none of us truly know what he looked like... do we?!



i do..i watched the discovery channel interview.. giggle

seriously though...he should look less like Colin Farrell and more like Colin Powell.. two times giggle giggle

or at least armand asanti..but not this beautiful black haired cuttie...




hummm, i'm not too sure though...

ii mean, i've spent time in the midle east ( isreal and istanbul, turkey). i've also been to north africa, south africa, and east africa. in all honesty, all africans are not of darker hue with non-straight hair- and i'm not speaking of those whose heritage can be traced to immigrants of the last 1,000 years to the mother continent. i could see the cute guy being an okay representation of jesus if he just had a lilllll more tan to his skin, then he would totally remind me of one of my friends from isreal.
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Reply #17 posted 02/24/04 10:42am

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So he probably does n't look like Jesus. At least James is a cutie.
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Reply #18 posted 02/24/04 11:02am

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Lammastide said:

So he probably does n't look like Jesus. At least James is a cutie.
He is fine, isn't he? And one of my favorite actors from the last five years.
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Reply #19 posted 02/24/04 11:47am

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I hear this guy is very religious, so he won't do any nude love scenes. sad

...I meant in general. I wouldn't expect that he'd do any love scenes as jesus. lol
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Reply #20 posted 02/27/04 5:24am

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Just as much as I'm baffled by people who claim they know Jesus was 'white' I'm baffled by people who claim to know he was 'not white'or 'black' or green, red, purple, blue, whatever. Such a shame the race factor always has to come in play. In the end it doesn't matter what he looked like because he never spoke in terms of race or skin color. His children however....

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Reply #21 posted 02/27/04 10:55pm

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Abrazo said:

Just as much as I'm baffled by people who claim they know Jesus was 'white' I'm baffled by people who claim to know he was 'not white'or 'black' or green, red, purple, blue, whatever. Such a shame the race factor always has to come in play. In the end it doesn't matter what he looked like because he never spoke in terms of race or skin color. His children however....

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Reply #22 posted 02/28/04 7:32am

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Abrazo said:

Just as much as I'm baffled by people who claim they know Jesus was 'white' I'm baffled by people who claim to know he was 'not white'or 'black' or green, red, purple, blue, whatever. Such a shame the race factor always has to come in play. In the end it doesn't matter what he looked like because he never spoke in terms of race or skin color. His children however....

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Jesus is whatever color that works for you. If you're fair-skinned, the Jesus is fair-skinned, if you're Asian, then Jesus is Asian, if you're a green alien with four eyes, then Jesus is an alien with four eyes. His skin color is the least important aspect of him.
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Reply #23 posted 02/28/04 9:23am

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Basically what it comes down to is everyone wants Jesus to look like them. So some people read his hair was like wool, and oh, that's it, Jesus must have been black, case closed. I'm so sick of this shit. You gotta look at the whole picture, taking into account geography and cultures. According to the accounts, Jesus was a middle eastern type. He most likely had dark eyes, dark hair, and tanned skin. None of us were there to prove it, but it makes most sense that he looked more like an Israeli.
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Reply #24 posted 02/28/04 1:59pm

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jessyMD32781 said:

His skin color is the least important aspect of him.


Precisely. nod
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Reply #25 posted 02/28/04 2:04pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Basically what it comes down to is everyone wants Jesus to look like them. So some people read his hare was like wool, and oh, that's it, Jesus must have been black, case closed. I'm so sick of this shit. You gotta look at the whole picture, taking into account geography and cultures. According to the accounts, Jesus was a middle eastern type. He most likely had dark eyes, dark hair, and tanned skin. None of us were there to prove it, but it makes most sense that he looked more like an Israeli.




Here you are bud, you're right on the money when you say he would've looked middle

eastern, even more to the point he would HAVE LOOKED ARABIC but taking into account all

the pieces of the jigsaw, J.C. WOULD NOT have looked like an ISREALI. There are subtle

but distinct differences in appearence between the native Arabic people of the land and

the people of Isreal, who's progeny since 1948 are mainly the children of folk who

migrated to that part of the world. If you look at HYUNGBU'S post the characteristic features

and hair of the model are consistant with that of Arabs.




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Reply #26 posted 02/28/04 2:11pm

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Some of the other concerns about accuracy are also scripture related, as well as concern about the potential bias of Gibson's extremist views/influences.

For example, there are supposedly some Bible verses that characters quote in the film which are taken from books of the Bible that had nothing to do with Jesus's crucifixion/death, thus "out of context".

Also, Gibson's father is reportedly part of an extremist Catholic group which doesn't believe that the Holocaust ever happened and has had some nasty things to say about Jews. Finally, another issue is that Gibson supposedly partially based his movie upon the teachings of a nun who is notorious for blaming Jews for Christ's death. Makes a person wonder about Gibson's influences and motives. shrug
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senik said:


Here you are bud, you're right on the money when you say he would've looked middle

eastern, even more to the point he would HAVE LOOKED ARABIC but taking into account all

the pieces of the jigsaw, J.C. WOULD NOT have looked like an ISREALI. There are subtle

but distinct differences in appearence between the native Arabic people of the land and

the people of Isreal, who's progeny since 1948 are mainly the children of folk who

migrated to that part of the world. If you look at HYUNGBU'S post the characteristic features

and hair of the model are consistant with that of Arabs.







I think you know what I mean.
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Reply #28 posted 02/28/04 2:54pm

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So some people read his hare was like wool, and oh, that's it, Jesus must have been black, case closed. I'm so sick of this shit.





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Reply #29 posted 02/28/04 5:28pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

senik said:


Here you are bud, you're right on the money when you say he would've looked middle

eastern, even more to the point he would HAVE LOOKED ARABIC but taking into account all

the pieces of the jigsaw, J.C. WOULD NOT have looked like an ISREALI. There are subtle

but distinct differences in appearence between the native Arabic people of the land and

the people of Isreal, who's progeny since 1948 are mainly the children of folk who

migrated to that part of the world. If you look at HYUNGBU'S post the characteristic features

and hair of the model are consistant with that of Arabs.







I think you know what I mean.







Had to correct your HUGE fundamental error though. Phenotypes between the two RACES

are immisible. Please don't take offence to my clarification.






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