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Reply #30 posted 11/24/21 12:18pm

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So I will break some of the case down:

Mr. Arbury was seen on video walking into and around a dwelling that was under construction. So what? So were other people. None of them were chased down and killed.

Even if he was stealing and committing felonies his murderers never had any reason to believe he did so they had no reason to try to arrest him. This was in evidence. So they never had any defence. If one is in the midst of committing a felony they can not use self defence as a defence to homicide.


Some say he was not a runner. Again, so what? He ran weird? So what? His toe nails were long? so what?

Wait? If he made a practice to RUN to his crime scenes... he would also likely trim his nails. Either way it was a foolish thing for the defence to mention as the killers had no way to know either way.

The killers wanted to say that he grabbed the gun? Okay even if that is true so what? the arrest was a fellony, no matter if the had any idea that it was or not, that giver Mr, Arbury the legal grounds to arrest them!

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Reply #31 posted 11/24/21 2:51pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

So I will break some of the case down: ...


I alwyas wonder why people like yourself are so tenderheaded about it.

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Reply #32 posted 11/24/21 3:15pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

So I will break some of the case down:

Mr. Arbury was seen on video walking into and around a dwelling that was under construction. So what? So were other people. None of them were chased down and killed.

Even if he was stealing and committing felonies his murderers never had any reason to believe he did so they had no reason to try to arrest him. This was in evidence. So they never had any defence. If one is in the midst of committing a felony they can not use self defence as a defence to homicide.


Some say he was not a runner. Again, so what? He ran weird? So what? His toe nails were long? so what?

Wait? If he made a practice to RUN to his crime scenes... he would also likely trim his nails. Either way it was a foolish thing for the defence to mention as the killers had no way to know either way.

The killers wanted to say that he grabbed the gun? Okay even if that is true so what? the arrest was a fellony, no matter if the had any idea that it was or not, that giver Mr, Arbury the legal grounds to arrest them!

....They ran him down like he was a dog, and shot him 3 times.


....And they waited 76 days to arrest the assholes, only after a public out cry



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Reply #33 posted 11/24/21 4:17pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

So I will break some of the case down: ...


I alwyas wonder why people like yourself are so tenderheaded about it.

people like me? intresting. it is often best to not get personal. But there is not much about me that is tender. I do not even know what you mean? oh well... 2 cases where the jury got it right.... well more than that... but yeah

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Reply #34 posted 11/24/21 4:24pm

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

So I will break some of the case down:

Mr. Arbury was seen on video walking into and around a dwelling that was under construction. So what? So were other people. None of them were chased down and killed.

Even if he was stealing and committing felonies his murderers never had any reason to believe he did so they had no reason to try to arrest him. This was in evidence. So they never had any defence. If one is in the midst of committing a felony they can not use self defence as a defence to homicide.


Some say he was not a runner. Again, so what? He ran weird? So what? His toe nails were long? so what?

Wait? If he made a practice to RUN to his crime scenes... he would also likely trim his nails. Either way it was a foolish thing for the defence to mention as the killers had no way to know either way.

The killers wanted to say that he grabbed the gun? Okay even if that is true so what? the arrest was a fellony, no matter if the had any idea that it was or not, that giver Mr, Arbury the legal grounds to arrest them!

....They ran him down like he was a dog, and shot him 3 times.


....And they waited 76 days to arrest the assholes, only after a public out cry



yeah? I have gone into that. I have been nothing except supportive of conviction in this case (as facts came to light).

Yeah I am glad that the video was posted. I really think if not for the video they might not have been charged.


One thing this case has in common with Rittienhouse (in this case Mr Arbery was Kyle and like Kyle was attacked and chased by 3 white people) was how the story that was told was so wrong. This is a lesson to wait and see what the actual evidence is before making up ones mind and then be open to changing your mind as you learn the truth. Seem we have a LONG way to go on that.

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Reply #35 posted 11/24/21 5:16pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I alwyas wonder why people like yourself are so tenderheaded about it.

people like me? intresting. it is often best to not get personal. But there is not much about me that is tender. I do not even know what you mean? oh well... 2 cases where the jury got it right.... well more than that... but yeah


I meant to reply to someone else. Sorry about that.

My real point was that - justice was served.

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Reply #36 posted 11/24/21 5:24pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

people like me? intresting. it is often best to not get personal. But there is not much about me that is tender. I do not even know what you mean? oh well... 2 cases where the jury got it right.... well more than that... but yeah


I meant to reply to someone else. Sorry about that.

My real point was that - justice was served.

Okay. I was always for justice on this. I was worried that the system would fail. I do remember some false stories and some foggy info that had nothing to do with the case being repeated over and over--some was true but most if not all was not even material to the case.



I had a laugh at someone who was so sure they would be acquitted, He said I would cry foul but the law is the law and it was self defense... when the verdict came out... his facebook posts were gone,

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Reply #37 posted 11/24/21 5:42pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Okay. I was always for justice on this. I was worried that the system would fail. I do remember some false stories and some foggy info that had nothing to do with the case being repeated over and over--some was true but most if not all was not even material to the case.


I had a laugh at someone who was so sure they would be acquitted, He said I would cry foul but the law is the law and it was self defense... when the verdict came out... his facebook posts were gone,


It's been a bit of a racist blur on the Org lately with protection of racists and censoring of those who call it out. Responding to the wrong post was bound to happen. Sorry again.

Onto another note: I, too, was worried about the system. But the quick verdict came from the points made about Arbery not being armed, running away, being cornered, etc; all were incredibly compelling.

The defense was particularly racist with its "dirty toenails" comment, among other things. Just fucking dehumanizing. But to people like her and her clients, BIPOC are trash anyway, so it doesn't really surprise me.

The whole thing is a glaring example of what racism and white supremacy really is: that a Black man is bound by some code to stop and obey just because a white man tells him to stop and obey.

I kept thinking that the guy said he was afraid Arbery was going to overpower him. "Well, dipshit," I thought, "if you'd not chased him down with a gun or attacked him, you'd probably have nothing to worry about at all. But here you are, convicted of malice murder among other things."

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Reply #38 posted 11/24/21 5:58pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Okay. I was always for justice on this. I was worried that the system would fail. I do remember some false stories and some foggy info that had nothing to do with the case being repeated over and over--some was true but most if not all was not even material to the case.


I had a laugh at someone who was so sure they would be acquitted, He said I would cry foul but the law is the law and it was self defense... when the verdict came out... his facebook posts were gone,


It's been a bit of a racist blur on the Org lately with protection of racists and censoring of those who call it out. Responding to the wrong post was bound to happen. Sorry again.

Onto another note: I, too, was worried about the system. But the quick verdict came from the points made about Arbery not being armed, running away, being cornered, etc; all were incredibly compelling.

The defense was particularly racist with its "dirty toenails" comment, among other things. Just fucking dehumanizing. But to people like her and her clients, BIPOC are trash anyway, so it doesn't really surprise me.

The whole thing is a glaring example of what racism and white supremacy really is: that a Black man is bound by some code to stop and obey just because a white man tells him to stop and obey.

I kept thinking that the guy said he was afraid Arbery was going to overpower him. "Well, dipshit," I thought, "if you'd not chased him down with a gun or attacked him, you'd probably have nothing to worry about at all. But here you are, convicted of malice murder among other things."

the dirty toe nails remark was said to be to show he was not a runner. But that is not material.Most of the defence was just than immaterial red herrings meant to distract or confuse.


As soon as the said they had not seen him commit a crime that day... (and something like that was in the opening--which is not actually evidence) it was over. WIth that admission they lost any claims to self defense.

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