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‘If you use white sage and you’re not Indigenous, you might be a colonizer’:

these people are just tragic. As James Carville said “Some of these people need to go to a ‘woke’ detox center or something,” 'people don't like you'

‘If you use white sage ... (msn.com)

TikToker calls out Whole Foods for cultural appropriation white sage

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In the video, which had over 16,000 likes by Thursday, TikToker @naturedirectco showed white sage being sold in the grocery store aisle. "I was shopping at Whole Foods when I saw this white washed, stolen medicine for sale and had to say something," the user said.

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The TikToker then explains how blue sage and rosemary should be used for smoke cleansing, while white sage and smudging are for "closed practice."

In the comments, some people defended using white sage, while others agreed with the creator.

"'Everybody can use plants' does not mean everyone is educated and prepared to perform a specific ceremony that they are not welcome to, folks,'" @hearthsandhedges commented.

Burning sage, or smudging, is a sacred medicinal practice used to cleanse or purify and is an important part of some Indigenous cultures.

By making sage trendy and profiting from it, non-Indigenous retailers erase the deep-seated historical and spiritual roots of the practice. It's part of a larger issue of for-profit retailers culturally appropriating parts of Indigenous culture, like headdresses, while due to colonization, Indigenous people face higher rates of mass incarceration, poverty, and land disparities.

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Reply #1 posted 11/18/21 7:39am

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Why can't Americans admit we did horrible stuff to innocent people? We tend not to colonize, but we helped them--belgium, Europe, France in Vietnam.

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2freaky4church1 said:

Why can't Americans admit we did horrible stuff to innocent people? We tend not to colonize, but we helped them--belgium, Europe, France in Vietnam.

dude even Native Americans are eye rolling this

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Reply #3 posted 11/19/21 4:41pm

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Sounds like the kid found a nitch to educating people who use this stuff. If white sage is indigenous to the Americas then I see nothing wrong with getting that out there. I know a lot of people use it, I assumed it came from culures across the ocean. Maybe the practice does but obviously white sage would be the incorrect plant in those type of ritualistic ceremonies. Nothing wrong with educating.
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But surely sooner or later something ancient can become mainstream, it's special and becomes part of a shared wider society
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Reply #5 posted 11/20/21 7:33am

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Back in the day Indians scalped white folk. Good lol

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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

But surely sooner or later something ancient can become mainstream, it's special and becomes part of a shared wider society

Maybe it's me but if I'm going to practice some ancient ritual I'd like to use the correct supplies. Otherwise I don't get the point of doing it. I don't think anybody would appreciate pineapple juice when taking communion.
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Reply #7 posted 11/20/21 11:17am

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onlyforaminute said:

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

But surely sooner or later something ancient can become mainstream, it's special and becomes part of a shared wider society

Maybe it's me but if I'm going to practice some ancient ritual I'd like to use the correct supplies. Otherwise I don't get the point of doing it. I don't think anybody would appreciate pineapple juice when taking communion.


It would be a nice touch for the point of sale to give the information maybe
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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

onlyforaminute said:


Maybe it's me but if I'm going to practice some ancient ritual I'd like to use the correct supplies. Otherwise I don't get the point of doing it. I don't think anybody would appreciate pineapple juice when taking communion.


It would be a nice touch for the point of sale to give the information maybe

It would be nice but in my head I'm thinking with a the social media out here, why fight whole foods directly. Teach people what these things in rituals mean. Nobody's going thru these things on a regular basis if they didn't care. Atheist aren't out hereparticipating in communion for sh!+$ and giggles, if they are doing the ritual it means something to them, they want to do it right. They'll look for the correct supplies forcing any business to provide the correct items. All that to just say that people are buying the wrong stuff because they don't know. Then again some are just making a lot of noise for attention sake and attention sake only, they're not truly offended.
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2freaky4church1 said:

Back in the day Indians scalped white folk. Good lol

they scalped Africans Mulattos Mestizoes and other Native ethnic groups too

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I am Indigenous and I say spice your food anyway you want. This child has no clue.
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Reply #12 posted 11/22/21 5:52am

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this person heard about white sage and made up some stuff just to be a jerk.

i dIdn't reAd aNy of that gaRbaG
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OnlyNDaUsa said:

this person heard about white sage and made up some stuff just to be a jerk.


I don't know, I'm not even gonna research it because I've never burnt sage. I'm most likely to grab olive oil if I were to do some spiritual cleansing ritual. I just know lots of people do it to cleanse their spaces and I've just rolled with it. It was interesting for me to now know this particular plant is indigenous to the Americas. I might be nosy the next time I see someone burning sage and ask where they got the practice from.
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OldFriends4Sale said:



James Freeman Nov 11



I am Indigenous and I say spice your food anyway you want. This child has no clue.




I thought this was about spiritual practices not cooking. I assumed there are avariety of sage worldwide but I could be wrong. That would be like being angry that people all over the world eat corn or chocolate or turkey, all indigenous to the Americas.
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