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Reply #270 posted 11/24/21 5:46am

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

he was running after Kyle directly, which means he pointed his weapon at Kyle intentionally. Why did he have a glock then?

They were running after Kyle because he was an active shooter.

Is it too hard for everyone to FACT CHECK?

no one runs after the 'active shooter'

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6-10 people were chasing him and assaulting him before had 'actively' never shot anyone
"Every person who was shot was attacking Kyle. One with a skateboard, one with his hands, and one with his feet, one with a gun," Richards said. "Hands and feet can cause great bodily harm."
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if Kyle was an 'ACTIVE SHOOTER' he would have shot other people

And he would have killed Gross, not just disarm him
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watch the video
https://twitter.com/i/status/1298502384654651392
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when Americans see fake protestors rioting and burning towns cities and neighborhoods and hear Democratic leaders condone it or tell the police to stand down, Americans have a right to fight back. Simply. Stay home, stay in your neighborhood town or city and don't go around creating vandalism, mayhem, destruction. That little black girl in Atlanta that was shot in her mothers car by a blm protester still hasn't received justice. by Hollyweird actors are calling child molestors pet names like JoJo. But they want justice for rioters.
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at one point 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum confronted Rittenhouse — and the teen apparently didn't want anything to do with him and tried getting away. But Rosenbaum chased the 17-year-old and appeared to try to take Rittenhouse's gun away — after which the teen fatally shot his pursuer.
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It should be noted that video recorded earlier allegedly caught Rosenbaum antagonizing the gun-carrying group, glaring at them, and daring them to "shoot me!"
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He even uttered the N-word while black people stood feet away.
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After Rosenbaum was shot, a mob chased Rittenhouse down a street. One of the pursuers was Anthony Huber, who hit Rittenhouse with his skateboard and, police say, tried taking Rittenhouse's rifle away — at which point Rittenhouse fired a fatal shot at Huber's chest.

Also in the thick of the chase was Grosskreutz who was seen in video screenshots and photographs seeming to point a handgun at Rittenhouse:

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And Ferguson 2015 has still NOT recovered from the blm protests that burned businesses, churches, homes and neighborhoods... many of them black owned.


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Reply #271 posted 11/24/21 7:54am

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Gutfeld: Our View on ‘T... (msn.com)

Gutfeld: Our View on ‘The View’

‘Gutfeld!’ panel discusses how liberal media is smearing Rittenhouse after his acquittal.

Gutfeld! | Fox News

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Reply #272 posted 11/24/21 8:03am

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Former NBA star Kwame Bro... (msn.com)

"That — to me, in my opinion — looked like self-defense. The courts found it as self-defense," he said Monday. "The only bad thing is that he had to sit in jail for so long because they made something political that shouldn't have been political. If you're going to give the boy the gun charge, give him the damn gun charge, or let the boy out." Rittenhouse at most should have been charged with a misdemeanor and sentenced to probation, he added.

"He could have been home eating Fruit Loops or whatever the hell he eats."
Instead of seeing the teenager's trial objectively, critics just want to racialize it, Brown said. None of the victims were people of color.

"Instead of that, we want to tie it in to something black," he continued. "We want to tie it in to something bigger so we can have people come out and march and get checks off a little teenager's back, and that, to me, is corny."

"Everything ain't political, OK?" Racial activists, advocates, lawyers, and journalists are benefiting from telling people of color how "bad" their lives are, Brown said.

"A bunch of people are getting paid to push this racist s***. That's all it is," he continued. "These motherf*****s ain't got no lane they're in — they really don't got nothing to say. The only thing they get paid off of is talking about how racist it is. Them motherf*****s got good cars, good houses, good everything telling you how bad it is. Motherf*****, it don't look bad. You're driving a Benz, you're g****** flying all over the world, you have speaking engagements, you motherf*****s got black ties and security and s***. How you motherf*****s so bad off?"

He even called out prominent figures known for promoting racial narratives by name.

"I saw g****** Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson — I saw g****** Roland Martin," he said. "Them motherf*****s got black ties, security. Them motherf*****s got a black SUV. Them motherf*****s riding in style."

They're "over there living good and pimpin'," he noted.

"So how in the f*** is it so bad?" Brown asked. "Tell me how to get it like you got it. Tell me how to get some of them black Escalade securities that you son-of-a-b*****s pulling up in while I'm pulling up with my brother."
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Reply #273 posted 11/24/21 10:02am

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TruthBomb said:

KYLE RITTENHOUSE IS AN AMERICAN HERO . . Can’t wait for him to SUE the fuck out of EVIL LIBERAL media

Good luck to him, with that. LOL

He's about to get the shit sued out of him, civilly. lol


lol Nah, dude. He's about to get rich like Nick Sandman. lol

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Reply #274 posted 11/24/21 11:19am

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PennyPurple said:

They were running after Kyle because he was an active shooter.

Is it too hard for everyone to FACT CHECK?

no one runs after the 'active shooter'

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6-10 people were chasing him and assaulting him before had 'actively' never shot anyone
"Every person who was shot was attacking Kyle. One with a skateboard, one with his hands, and one with his feet, one with a gun," Richards said. "Hands and feet can cause great bodily harm."
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if Kyle was an 'ACTIVE SHOOTER' he would have shot other people

And he would have killed Gross, not just disarm him
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watch the video
https://twitter.com/i/status/1298502384654651392
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when Americans see fake protestors rioting and burning towns cities and neighborhoods and hear Democratic leaders condone it or tell the police to stand down, Americans have a right to fight back. Simply. Stay home, stay in your neighborhood town or city and don't go around creating vandalism, mayhem, destruction. That little black girl in Atlanta that was shot in her mothers car by a blm protester still hasn't received justice. by Hollyweird actors are calling child molestors pet names like JoJo. But they want justice for rioters.
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at one point 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum confronted Rittenhouse — and the teen apparently didn't want anything to do with him and tried getting away. But Rosenbaum chased the 17-year-old and appeared to try to take Rittenhouse's gun away — after which the teen fatally shot his pursuer.
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It should be noted that video recorded earlier allegedly caught Rosenbaum antagonizing the gun-carrying group, glaring at them, and daring them to "shoot me!"
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He even uttered the N-word while black people stood feet away.
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After Rosenbaum was shot, a mob chased Rittenhouse down a street. One of the pursuers was Anthony Huber, who hit Rittenhouse with his skateboard and, police say, tried taking Rittenhouse's rifle away — at which point Rittenhouse fired a fatal shot at Huber's chest.

Also in the thick of the chase was Grosskreutz who was seen in video screenshots and photographs seeming to point a handgun at Rittenhouse:

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And Ferguson 2015 has still NOT recovered from the blm protests that burned businesses, churches, homes and neighborhoods... many of them black owned.


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You cannot say "no one runs after the 'active shooter'" and then say "After Rosenbaum was shot, a mob chased Rittenhouse down a street". The fact is people did seek to stop Rittenhouse AFTER he shot and killed someone.

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So I agree with the first part of your comment: "if Kyle was an 'ACTIVE SHOOTER' he would have shot other people." because he did. But not the second part "And he would have killed Gross, not just disarm him". After he killed the first person, as an active shooter, he shot other people - he killed one and seriously injured another. He did not just disarm the final victim: he shot him. There is nothing in being an active shooter that you must kill each person you shoot - you just have to shoot them.

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The 6 to 10 people who "assaulted" Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse shot anyone would be the people that saw Rittenhouse point his semi-automatic rifle at people before anyone assaulted Rittenhouse. That the defense convinced the jury that this was "jokingly" pointing is a key reason Rittenhouse was let off. If there was a single gun totting hot-head when Rittenhouse pointed his gun first and they shot Rittenhouse and killed him, then, with sufficent evidence of Rittenhouse pointing his gun at them first, that nut-job could very well argue he killed Rittenhouse in self-defense under Wisconsin law. This law generally removes the privilege of self-defense from the instigator and it recognises that the person who points their gun first is prima-facie the instigator.

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That Rosenbaum taunted others carrying guns by saying "shoot me" is irrelevant. No one of these people saw this as a threat and they did not shoot him. That the Rosenbaum taunts including calling clearly white people the "N-word" is not justification for killing him.

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And on Atlanta: Julian Conley is in jail having been twice denied a bond and On August 13, 2021, a grand jury returned a 37-count indictment against him and Jerrion McKinney, who were accused of being gang members. He was charged with malice murder and felony murder in Secoriea's killing. He and McKinney were also charged with aggravated assault, gun and gang-related charges.

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Reply #275 posted 11/24/21 12:12pm

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Yes, people do run after active shooters.

Who are you trying to kid? Did you-tube tell you differently? lol


Gaige Grosskreutz, along with Huber, was one of several people who chased Rittenhouse after he shot and killed Rosenbaum. Prosecutors have said that the group believed that Rittenhouse was an active shooter



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Reply #276 posted 11/24/21 12:14pm

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IanRG said:

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You cannot say "no one runs after the 'active shooter'" and then say "After Rosenbaum was shot, a mob chased Rittenhouse down a street". The fact is people did seek to stop Rittenhouse AFTER he shot and killed someone.

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So I agree with the first part of your comment: "if Kyle was an 'ACTIVE SHOOTER' he would have shot other people." because he did. But not the second part "And he would have killed Gross, not just disarm him". After he killed the first person, as an active shooter, he shot other people - he killed one and seriously injured another. He did not just disarm the final victim: he shot him. There is nothing in being an active shooter that you must kill each person you shoot - you just have to shoot them.

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The 6 to 10 people who "assaulted" Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse shot anyone would be the people that saw Rittenhouse point his semi-automatic rifle at people before anyone assaulted Rittenhouse. That the defense convinced the jury that this was "jokingly" pointing is a key reason Rittenhouse was let off. If there was a single gun totting hot-head when Rittenhouse pointed his gun first and they shot Rittenhouse and killed him, then, with sufficent evidence of Rittenhouse pointing his gun at them first, that nut-job could very well argue he killed Rittenhouse in self-defense under Wisconsin law. This law generally removes the privilege of self-defense from the instigator and it recognises that the person who points their gun first is prima-facie the instigator.

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That Rosenbaum taunted others carrying guns by saying "shoot me" is irrelevant. No one of these people saw this as a threat and they did not shoot him. That the Rosenbaum taunts including calling clearly white people the "N-word" is not justification for killing him.

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And on Atlanta: Julian Conley is in jail having been twice denied a bond and On August 13, 2021, a grand jury returned a 37-count indictment against him and Jerrion McKinney, who were accused of being gang members. He was charged with malice murder and felony murder in Secoriea's killing. He and McKinney were also charged with aggravated assault, gun and gang-related charges.

Exactly, Ian!

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Reply #277 posted 11/24/21 12:17pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

YOU got your facts wrong, his grandparents do NOT own a business there and only his dad lives there.

It's been fact checked.

That correct 'there is no proof' that the grandparents owned it

As they posted [it is no confirmed] it could be but they don't want people targeting them as a result. They would have a right to have that information withheld.

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Attorney 1: Do you have any other family that’s from Kenosha?

Kyle Rittenhouse: Yes.

Attorney 1: What?

Kyle Rittenhouse: My grandmother, my aunt, my uncle and cousins all live in the city of Kenosha.

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He lived in Antioch with his single mother, Wendy Rittenhouse, and his two sisters.
Antioch borders the Wisconsin state line and is about 20 miles, or roughly a 30-minute drive, from Kenosha, where his father, grandmother, aunt, uncle and cousin live.

There is no proof because they simply did not own it.

You made a false post by 'copied' and posted what someone else said, that post has been debunked.

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Reply #278 posted 11/24/21 12:23pm

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Yes, people do run after active shooters.

Who are you trying to kid? Did you-tube tell you differently? lol


Gaige Grosskreutz, along with Huber, was one of several people who chased Rittenhouse after he shot and killed Rosenbaum. Prosecutors have said that the group believed that Rittenhouse was an active shooter



there is no reason to assume they thought he was an active shooter as he was running away and not shooting. It is just as reasonable to assuem the just wanted to get him and kill him and get his gun for their own use.

Why take the word of known criminals (at least one of whome travled much further than kyle did and who has no known connection to the city and was the only one who we know had an illegal gun) over someone who is on video helping who did nothing violent until he was attacked by a person who said he was going to kill him?

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Reply #279 posted 11/24/21 12:29pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes, people do run after active shooters.

Who are you trying to kid? Did you-tube tell you differently? lol


Gaige Grosskreutz, along with Huber, was one of several people who chased Rittenhouse after he shot and killed Rosenbaum. Prosecutors have said that the group believed that Rittenhouse was an active shooter



there is no reason to assume they thought he was an active shooter as he was running away and not shooting. It is just as reasonable to assuem the just wanted to get him and kill him and get his gun for their own use.

Why take the word of known criminals (at least one of whome travled much further than kyle did and who has no known connection to the city and was the only one who we know had an illegal gun) over someone who is on video helping who did nothing violent until he was attacked by a person who said he was going to kill him?

He had just shot the 1st dude, people saw him and started running and pointing out that he just shot someone.


Why don't you look at the full picture instead of just the portion that you want to see?

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Reply #280 posted 11/24/21 12:41pm

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After the shooting, a group of people began pursuing the teenager, and Rittenhouse testified he shot in self-defense at a man who tried to kick him; fatally shot Anthony Huber, who had hit him with a skateboard; and shot Gaige Grosskreutz, who was armed with a pistol.

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Reply #281 posted 11/24/21 12:53pm

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there is no reason to assume they thought he was an active shooter as he was running away and not shooting. It is just as reasonable to assuem the just wanted to get him and kill him and get his gun for their own use.

Why take the word of known criminals (at least one of whome travled much further than kyle did and who has no known connection to the city and was the only one who we know had an illegal gun) over someone who is on video helping who did nothing violent until he was attacked by a person who said he was going to kill him?

He had just shot the 1st dude, people saw him and started running and pointing out that he just shot someone.


Why don't you look at the full picture instead of just the portion that you want to see?

but he was not shooting he was running... he was an active runner. But here is one catch to that...
(well running for the first one and second one and then he was still on the ground for the 3rd when hit with the skateboard and then (I think) threatend with a hand gun.)

At best the last 3 assumed he committed a crime, right?

you must agree here.


So at best they assumed he had and/or was committing a crime and they choose based on that assumtion to take action to stop him.

So far you must agree.

But when they made that choice they took on the risk that they could be mistaken. Now if they were charged with attacking him they can make the case that they thought he was an active shooter (or actively in the commission of criminal acts) and that they were acting in good faith--so not necessarily criminal.

I can agree that the last 3 may have been acting in good faith. Maybe? who knows?


But that is not material in Kyle's self defense claim. We have the last guy seem to try to deny (by omission to the police) and on the stand that he was pointing he gun at Kyle when Kyle shot him.

Even if they were acting in good faith that is not known to Kyle and he is not under any obligation to consider or wait and see what they intended to do.

So what they thought is not evidence against Kyle even if it could be for their own possable criminal cases.





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Reply #282 posted 11/24/21 12:56pm

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After the shooting, a group of people began pursuing the teenager, and Rittenhouse testified he shot in self-defense at a man who tried to kick him; fatally shot Anthony Huber, who had hit him with a skateboard; and shot Gaige Grosskreutz, who was armed with a pistol.

a man who DID kick him and a man who hit him with what was being used as a weapon and the shot gaige by his own hesitant admission only after gaige pointed a gun at him. (and at that rage pointing or aiming makes almost no difference other that pointing is faster)


Let's be accurate and honest.

all 4 assaulted him. if anything Kyle showed restraint.

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Reply #283 posted 11/24/21 1:01pm

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So let's list the false things said about Kyle....


that he crossed stare lines with an illegal gun!

No he did not

that it was a crime for him to have the gun...

Wrong


that he shot indiscriminnatly into the crowd


WRONG

that he had no ties to the city

WRONG

that he was part of a milita

NOPE

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Reply #284 posted 11/24/21 3:07pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

So let's list the false things said about Kyle....


that he crossed stare lines with an illegal gun!

No he did not

that it was a crime for him to have the gun...

Wrong


that he shot indiscriminnatly into the crowd


WRONG

that he had no ties to the city

WRONG

that he was part of a milita

NOPE

And here is another list of mainly falsehoods about Kyle

OldFriends4Sale said:

COPIED

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Until I watched the trial for myself, I didn’t know the gas station where it all started and where Kyle stayed up until they started attacking him, is owned by his grandparents. They came on to his family property to attack him.
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I didn't know that Kyle put out a dumpster fire that was being rolled down to a gas station to blow up, with people all around.
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I didn't know that the Police were told to stand down as businesses were destroyed.
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I didn't know that Kyles Dad, Grandma and Friends all lived in Kenosha, 20 minutes from where he resided with his Mom part time in Illinois.
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I didn't know that someone knocked Rittenhouse down twice and then attempted to kick him with lethal force to the head.
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I didn't know that Huber had hit him in the head 2x with a skateboard.
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I didn't know Gaige Grosskreutz, aimed his gun at Kyle first, as he admitted on the stand.
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I also didn't know that in the State of Wisconsin, it is legal for Kyle to have a gun, even at 17 (which was why the gun charge was dismissed).
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I didn't know that Kyle did not cross state lines with a gun he wasn't supposed to have.
The rightful gun owner did, as he was legally permitted to do.

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IF THE MEDIA DID THEIR JOB... we would ALL have known this and tax payers dollars would not be wasted and more division created!
Copied fact checked and hard to digest

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Reply #285 posted 11/24/21 3:41pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes, people do run after active shooters.

Who are you trying to kid? Did you-tube tell you differently? lol


Gaige Grosskreutz, along with Huber, was one of several people who chased Rittenhouse after he shot and killed Rosenbaum. Prosecutors have said that the group believed that Rittenhouse was an active shooter



there is no reason to assume they thought he was an active shooter as he was running away and not shooting. It is just as reasonable to assuem the just wanted to get him and kill him and get his gun for their own use.

Why take the word of known criminals (at least one of whome travled much further than kyle did and who has no known connection to the city and was the only one who we know had an illegal gun) over someone who is on video helping who did nothing violent until he was attacked by a person who said he was going to kill him?

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It obvious that you don't reAd aNy of that gaRbaG you post before you post it.

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By the admission of Rittenhouse's defense team Rittenhouse was not just a do-gooder helping others before he was attacked - He pointed his loaded semi-automatic rifle at people BEFORE he was threatened by his first victim. The final victim has just seen Rittenhouse shoot and kill someone, then shoot and kill another person, then he made moves to shoot him. He did not have to assume anything and said so on the stand - he feared for his life.

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You don't need to take the word of known criminals, it is on video.

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Reply #286 posted 11/24/21 4:16pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

After the shooting, a group of people began pursuing the teenager, and Rittenhouse testified he shot in self-defense at a man who tried to kick him; fatally shot Anthony Huber, who had hit him with a skateboard; and shot Gaige Grosskreutz, who was armed with a pistol.

a man who DID kick him and a man who hit him with what was being used as a weapon and the shot gaige by his own hesitant admission only after gaige pointed a gun at him. (and at that rage pointing or aiming makes almost no difference other that pointing is faster)


Let's be accurate and honest.

all 4 assaulted him. if anything Kyle showed restraint.

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All the people that you praised in thread here before for assaulting a killer in a church also assaulted that killer.

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To be accurate and honest, you need to address who has the privilege of self-defense under Wisconsin law because both sides were assaulting each other and, as fringe dwellers hanging around a peaceful protest for a fight, both sides would have had a reasonable proportion of people with criminal records.

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As I said before, the jury decided in favour of Rittenhouse. However, they could have just as easily decided that Rittenhouse lost the privilege of self-defense when he threatened people by pointing his semi-automatic rifle at them before he was assaulted. Instead the jury agreed with the defense that this was probably just a "joke" - reasonable doubt favours the accused. If they did not, then Rittenhouse is the instigator under law and the people responding to his threats have the privilege of self defense - just the same as those who killed the person who attacked that church and could have been a mass murderer.

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It is good to see that you have once again confirmed that you are reading my comments: Inadvertently pointing is quicker that aiming critically because inadvertently pointing has no intent to shoot - consistent with Grosskreutz's comments on the stand and inconsistent with the lie in the list of "fact checked" claims. The logical and legal comment here would be: Could Rittenhouse be expected to understand that Grosskreutz was not about to shoot him - This is very different comment from the Fox and Co spin.

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Reply #287 posted 11/24/21 4:28pm

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

So let's list the false things said about Kyle....


that he crossed stare lines with an illegal gun!

No he did not

that it was a crime for him to have the gun...

Wrong


that he shot indiscriminnatly into the crowd


WRONG

that he had no ties to the city

WRONG

that he was part of a milita

NOPE

And here is another list of mainly falsehoods about Kyle

Huh nothing I posted was false... he did not cross state lines with the gun, it was legal for him to have the gun, he had ties to the city *he lived 20 miles away*, he did not indicriminaly shoot, he was not part of a milita... thoes were things that were made up... or that people got wrong,


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Reply #288 posted 11/24/21 8:05pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Huh nothing I posted was false... he did not cross state lines with the gun, it was legal for him to have the gun, he had ties to the city *he lived 20 miles away*, he did not indicriminaly shoot, he was not part of a milita... thoes were things that were made up... or that people got wrong,


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He did not cross State lines with a gun – Sure, instead Rittenhouse arranged to pick up a gun illegally supplied to him, and Rittenhouse’s supplier is trouble with the law because of this.

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Technically it was not a crime for him to have that gun – Sure, but this is due to an ambiguity in the construction of the applicable Wisconsin laws. The judge admitted interpretations here are problematic and suggested the prosecution appeal to the State on this – He criticised them for not doing this. However, he immediately had to backtrack on this criticism because he did not give a clear ruling and the judge said that this was his bad.

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The familial connection to Kenosha is not the issue. It is the false claim that Rittenhouse said he was there to protect his Grandparent's fuel station. Firstly Rittenhouse did not say it on the stand – the other list is lying. He was not there to protect any fuel station; it was a car yard. He visited a fuel station looking for a person but could not find that person and he went back to the car yard. Crucially the car yard disagreed that he was there at their behest or with their permission.

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Other than imagining the group of people who arranged to be there were a well ordered militia rather than just a mob, the distinction between the group Rittenhouse joined and a militia is of little importance.

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The reasons Rittenhouse is not in jail are because.

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1 Rittenhouse was convincing on the stand in line with mock trial testing. This does not say anything about the validity of this because the decision to put the charged person on the stand is made regardless of whether they did it or not. It is made on how they are expected to present to the jury and influence their decision.

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2 The prosecution managed the case poorly and its decisions were bad. This also does not say anything guilt or innocence – too many cases are won or lost on legal team mismanagement or decisions.

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3 The judge' guidance to the jury. This also does not say anything guilt or innocence – Most jury members place great importance on the guidance given to them in determining their decision.

But as ever, the most important reason is:

4 The prosecution did not prove Rittenhouse provoked the violence. His gun pointing before he was threatened was dismissed as being jokingly in line with the defense argument because the prosecution could not prove otherwise. The provocation by his first victim meant that the decision between falling and lunging was decided in favour of lunging. The requirement for proof beyond a reasonable doubt means that the decision is as expected as a normal application of this legal principle. Once he is considered to be acting in self-defense, any subsequent moves to stop him from killing people will follow the first assessment unless there is a marked change (eg the person acting initially in self defense switches to attacking non-threatening children or otherwise exceeds whatever the local legal requirements for no more than reasonable force under the circumstances apply in that jurisdiction.)

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Everything else is a distraction at best or an attempt to use this case to promote people's different political or personal views.

[Edited 11/25/21 12:20pm]

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Former NBA star Kwame Bro... (msn.com)





"That — to me, in my opinion — looked like self-defense. The courts found it as self-defense," he said Monday. "The only bad thing is that he had to sit in jail for so long because they made something political that shouldn't have been political. If you're going to give the boy the gun charge, give him the damn gun charge, or let the boy out." Rittenhouse at most should have been charged with a misdemeanor and sentenced to probation, he added.




"He could have been home eating Fruit Loops or whatever the hell he eats."



Instead of seeing the teenager's trial objectively, critics just want to racialize it, Brown said. None of the victims were people of color.




"Instead of that, we want to tie it in to something black," he continued. "We want to tie it in to something bigger so we can have people come out and march and get checks off a little teenager's back, and that, to me, is corny."




"Everything ain't political, OK?" Racial activists, advocates, lawyers, and journalists are benefiting from telling people of color how "bad" their lives are, Brown said.







"A bunch of people are getting paid to push this racist s***. That's all it is," he continued. "These motherf*****s ain't got no lane they're in — they really don't got nothing to say. The only thing they get paid off of is talking about how racist it is. Them motherf*****s got good cars, good houses, good everything telling you how bad it is. Motherf*****, it don't look bad. You're driving a Benz, you're g***** flying all over the world, you have speaking engagements, you motherf*****s got black ties and security and s***. How you motherf*****s so bad off?"







He even called out prominent figures known for promoting racial narratives by name.







"I saw g***** Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson — I saw g***** Roland Martin," he said. "Them motherf*****s got black ties, security. Them motherf*****s got a black SUV. Them motherf*****s riding in style."







They're "over there living good and pimpin'," he noted.







"So how in the f*** is it so bad?" Brown asked. "Tell me how to get it like you got it. Tell me how to get some of them black Escalade securities that you son-of-a-b*****s pulling up in while I'm pulling up with my brother."






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Yes, people do run after active shooters.

Who are you trying to kid? Did you-tube tell you differently? lol


Gaige Grosskreutz, along with Huber, was one of several people who chased Rittenhouse after he shot and killed Rosenbaum. Prosecutors have said that the group believed that Rittenhouse was an active shooter



He wasn't an active shooter. In ALL the active shooter threads we had, not one person ran after them except police/law enforcement

They knew he wasn't an active shooter, or else a bunch of people would have actively been shot If that was his intent the 3rd guy would not be alive to testify

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PennyPurple said:

Yes, people do run after active shooters.

Who are you trying to kid? Did you-tube tell you differently? lol


Gaige Grosskreutz, along with Huber, was one of several people who chased Rittenhouse after he shot and killed Rosenbaum. Prosecutors have said that the group believed that Rittenhouse was an active shooter



He wasn't an active shooter. In ALL the active shooter threads we had, not one person ran after them except police/law enforcement

They knew he wasn't an active shooter, or else a bunch of people would have actively been shot If that was his intent the 3rd guy would not be alive to testify

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Why do you think all active shooters must kill everyone they shoot? There have been several threads discussed here where the shooter either killed or injured those they shot.

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The deterination of whether a person who progressively shoots 3 people is an active shooter is not whether it is discussed in thread in the org.

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I am sure there was discussion here of a shooting at people picnicing and some did try to stop the shooter.

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