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San Francisco Chronicle blasted for asking if residents should 'tolerate burglaries'

This has been going on in more liberal cities where it seems 'advocates' for criminals are backed by policies. Where it seems like concern for criminals are more protected that law abiding citizens. That you have to know your limits to what you can do it someone breaks into your home is lunacy. So SF is literally considering residents barricade themselves... just don't own a gun...

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"Residents and city leaders are searching for answers: should they tolerate burglaries as a part of city living and focus on barricading homes? Should repeat offenders get rehabilitation services, or be incarcerated so they can’t commit more crimes?" the outlet tweeted, along with a link to an article headlined, "Two men with long criminal histories got caught for stealing bikes. What should S.F. do about them?"

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The piece explores the city's pursuit for criminal justice reform while "debating how to manage rates of property crime that for years have been among the highest in the nation."

Twitter users reacted harshly to the outlet's wording.

"Can you imagine living in a city where barricading yourself in your home is considered a more viable option than (checks notes)… arresting burglars??l" wrote Twitter user jason@calacanis.com.

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Reply #1 posted 11/08/21 7:57am

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Shit hole San Francisco governed by who? Nancy Skelator Pelosi and the EVIL libs
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San Francisco families no longer 'feel safe,' hire private security amid crime spree

Emma Colton 10/25/2021

More than 150 families living in San Francisco have hired private security to patrol their streets amid brazen property crimes, with some saying they no longer feel safe in their own neighborhood.

"We don’t feel safe in our neighborhood," resident Katie Lyons, told CBS SF. "And we have an alarm, we have cameras on our property, but we want the extra security of having someone have eyes on our place."

Lyons and other families hired patrol special officer Alan Byard to help patrol the streets of the city’s Marina District following repeated instances of car break-ins and home burglaries.

"It’s a nice area down here, people are afraid of what’s been going on," said Byard. "They want a safe place to raise their kids. In the last year, I’ve had 10 of my clients move out of the city."

Patrol Special Officers are overseen by the police commission as they work in their capacity as private security, CBS SF reported.

Byard explained that he patrols the Marina District in his car from 8 p.m. until 5 a.m. looking for suspicious people. He charges $65 per residence each month.

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San Francisco mayor's plan to combat flash mob looting will limit access to stores ahead of holidays

Emma Colton

San Francisco Mayor London Breed announced that the city will limit car access to the city’s popular shopping district, Union Square, in response to the mobs of thieves that have ransacked high-end stores in recent days.

"We’re going to be making some changes to Union Square and how cars are able to access," Breed said at a press conference Saturday. "There will be limited access in terms of when you come to this area."

CALIFORNIA NORDSTROM RANSACKED BY 80 LOOTERS IN SKI MASKS WITH CROWBARS AND WEAPONS: WITNESS

Breed’s office did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment for details on the changes. Local media reported it's unclear when the changes will be implemented.

San Francisco Police Chief Bill Scott added during the press conference that law enforcement’s presence in the area will be increased "for the foreseeable future."

BACK TO BACK FLASH MOB LOOTINGS IN SAN FRANCISCO AREA ALARMING EXPERTS

San Francisco and the Bay Area were repeatedly hit by mobs of thieves over the weekend, including on Friday night in Union Square. Multiple people broke the windows of a Louis Vuitton in the city and "emptied out" the store of its high-end merchandise. Eight people were arrested in connection to the incident.

San Francisco police said that nearly 12 stores in the city were attacked by a mob of at least 80 people this weekend alone.

In Oakland, about 12 miles from San Francisco, at least two dozen businesses were ransacked over the weekend, according to the city’s police chief.

The rise in the crimes, which has overwhelmingly been described as "organized" by local police, comes after the Bay Area has already been grappling with repeated incidents of looting and smash-and-grab incidents in recent months.

DOZENS OF SAN FRANCISCO AREA STORES, PHARMACIES HIT BY SMASH-AND-GRAB LOOTERS: 'HURTS US ALL'

Most notably, the city saw a staggering increase in car break-ins, with the Central District alone reporting a 753% increase in such crimes from May of last year to 2021.

Some police and retailers pointed to California’s Proposition 47 for the increase in crimes, which reduced shoplifting charges regarding the theft of $950 or less from felonies to misdemeanors.

In 2018, state legislators passed a temporary law in response to complaints surrounding the law, which established a new crime of organized retail theft. A California Highway Patrol task force was also created to help assist areas with high instances of such crimes. The law expired at the start of this year, however, The San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Gov. Gavin Newsom also weighed in on the rampant crimes, calling them "unacceptable. Period, full stop." He also noted police presence is increasing in affected areas.

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Burglary should carry a mandatory 2 year sentence, no plea deals. Western world has to get tougher. I had to fight off a burglar a few years ago wbo got away with it. I never felt safe at home again.
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‘Flash mob’ loots California Nordstrom, at least two people arrested

No less than two folks have been arrested at gunpoint after a flash mob of shoplifters robbed a California division retailer past due Saturday night time, a document stated.

The incident came about on the Walnut Creek Nordstrom retailer, in line with NBC Bay Spa... Hernandez.

Some two dozen automobiles blocked the road as throngs of robbers rushed the shop, made off with products and sped away, the reporter tweeted.

Law enforcement officials with weapons drawn arrested two suspects, she stated.



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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

Burglary should carry a mandatory 2 year sentence, no plea deals. Western world has to get tougher. I had to fight off a burglar a few years ago wbo got away with it. I never felt safe at home again.

This said it best

these laws are literally protecting criminals and penalizing citizens and business owners

Back-to-back flash mob lootings in San Francisco area alarming experts

Mon, November 22, 2021, 8:13 AM·4 min read

The San Francisco area saw back-to-back flash mobs ransack a Nordstrom and a Louis Vuitton over a 24-hour period, alarming security experts in a city that has already been struggling with rampant smash-and-grab incidents.

"I think what happens now is there's no accountability for it anymore, and the liability for the stores if they try to apprehend these guys. They just stand by and watch," Steve Reed, a retired police officer and the former head of security at Arden Fair Mall, told ABC 10.

Some security experts are pointing to California’s laws that are intended to reduce costs of incarceration as to why there is an increase in such crimes, ABC 10 reported. Shoplifting charges regarding the theft of $950 or less were lowered from felonies to misdemeanors under Proposition 47 in 2014. Stores also often have no-chase policies of shoplifters.

Mon, November 22, 2021, 8:13 AM·4 min read

The San Francisco area saw back-to-back flash mobs ransack a Nordstrom and a Louis Vuitton over a 24-hour period, alarming security experts in a city that has already been struggling with rampant smash-and-grab incidents.

"I think what happens now is there's no accountability for it anymore, and the liability for the stores if they try to apprehend these guys. They just stand by and watch," Steve Reed, a retired police officer and the former head of security at Arden Fair Mall, told ABC 10.

Some security experts are pointing to California’s laws that are intended to reduce costs of incarceration as to why there is an increase in such crimes, ABC 10 reported. Shoplifting charges regarding the theft of $950 or less were lowered from felonies to misdemeanors under Proposition 47 in 2014. Stores also often have no-chase policies of shoplifters.

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CALIFORNIA NORDSTROM RANSACKED BY 80 LOOTERS IN SKI MASKS WITH CROWBARS AND WEAPONS: WITNESS

"Some people calculate, 'Hey, you know, I don't want to go over the $950, so let me steal $949 worth of property,'" San Francisco Police Chief William Scott said earlier this year.

"If it's a felony, our officers can take action," he added at the time. "But if it's a misdemeanor, that arrest has to be a private person's arrest. And that makes a difference because they have to be willing to do that."

Other security experts in the area are advising that the best precaution people can take during such incidents is not intervening.

"I cannot overstate the importance of doing that," Hector Alvarez, a corporate security expert with more than 15 years of training, told ABC 10. "Find a way to duck into a corner, get behind something and literally become spam, don't become part of the noise."

About 80 people dressed in ski masks armed with crowbars stormed a Nordstrom location in Walnut Creek on Saturday night. The town is located about 30 minutes from San Francisco.



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these people are sick, so now we have to change the language because we don't want to make the criminals feel bad??

'Looting' deemed racist term, California experiencing 'organized robbery'

Luke Gentile

What happened in California this weekend when over $1 million in luxury goods were stolen was not "looting," authorities said.

Calling it "looting" might be racist, they said.

Instead, what happened was "organized robbery," according to a spokesperson for the San Diego Police Department.

San Diego officials are not alone in this sentiment.

"As the Bay Area grapples with a wave of seemingly organized smash and grab robberies this weekend, policing and journalism analysts are cautioning against the use of the term looting," a report said.

In San Francisco, Louis Vuitton and Burberry stores were burglarized and lost a significant amount of their product, the report said.

Similar incidents occurred in San Jose, Santana Row, Hayward, and Walnut Creek, with waves of people storming into stores, causing extreme losses.

However, these events are not considered looting, according to the California Penal Code, which defines looting as "theft or burglary ... during a 'state of emergency,' 'local emergency,' or 'evacuation order' resulting from an earthquake, fire, flood, riot or other natural or manmade disaster."

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Reply #8 posted 11/24/21 6:53am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

these people are sick, so now we have to change the language because we don't want to make the criminals feel bad??

'Looting' deemed racist term, California experiencing 'organized robbery'

Luke Gentile

What happened in California this weekend when over $1 million in luxury goods were stolen was not "looting," authorities said.

Calling it "looting" might be racist, they said.

Instead, what happened was "organized robbery," according to a spokesperson for the San Diego Police Department.

San Diego officials are not alone in this sentiment.

"As the Bay Area grapples with a wave of seemingly organized smash and grab robberies this weekend, policing and journalism analysts are cautioning against the use of the term looting," a report said.

In San Francisco, Louis Vuitton and Burberry stores were burglarized and lost a significant amount of their product, the report said.

Similar incidents occurred in San Jose, Santana Row, Hayward, and Walnut Creek, with waves of people storming into stores, causing extreme losses.

However, these events are not considered looting, according to the California Penal Code, which defines looting as "theft or burglary ... during a 'state of emergency,' 'local emergency,' or 'evacuation order' resulting from an earthquake, fire, flood, riot or other natural or manmade disaster."

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Your narrative lacks nuance.

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Reply #9 posted 11/24/21 6:58am

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RichardS said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

these people are sick, so now we have to change the language because we don't want to make the criminals feel bad??

'Looting' deemed racist term, California experiencing 'organized robbery'

Luke Gentile

What happened in California this weekend when over $1 million in luxury goods were stolen was not "looting," authorities said.

Calling it "looting" might be racist, they said.

Instead, what happened was "organized robbery," according to a spokesperson for the San Diego Police Department.

San Diego officials are not alone in this sentiment.

"As the Bay Area grapples with a wave of seemingly organized smash and grab robberies this weekend, policing and journalism analysts are cautioning against the use of the term looting," a report said.

In San Francisco, Louis Vuitton and Burberry stores were burglarized and lost a significant amount of their product, the report said.

Similar incidents occurred in San Jose, Santana Row, Hayward, and Walnut Creek, with waves of people storming into stores, causing extreme losses.

However, these events are not considered looting, according to the California Penal Code, which defines looting as "theft or burglary ... during a 'state of emergency,' 'local emergency,' or 'evacuation order' resulting from an earthquake, fire, flood, riot or other natural or manmade disaster."

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'Looting' deemed racist t... (msn.com)

Your narrative lacks nuance.

come on dude... I don't need these 4 liners just for the heck of it

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Your narrative lacks nuance.

come on dude... I don't need these 4 liners just for the heck of it

I don't understand what '4 liners' means?

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Newsom calls Bay Area looting 'unacceptable,' calls for accountability

Madison Hirneisen, The Center Square

Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday denounced the looting that took place in several Bay Area stores over the weekend, calling the acts "unacceptable" and urging accountability for those who committed theft.

The governor, speaking from a vaccine clinic in the Bay Area, told reporters Monday that he has "no sympathy" for those who participated in looting several high-end stores in Northern California over the weekend.

"I have no sympathy, no empathy whatsoever," Newsom said Monday. "People smashing and grabbing, stealing people's items, creating havoc and terror in our streets. None. Period. Full stop. We want real accountability. We want people prosecuted and we want people to feel safe this holiday season."


On Saturday, about 80 looters ransacked a Nordstrom store in Walnut Creek, stealing merchandise and assaulting employees, according to the Walnut Creek Police Department. Police said the looting "was clearly a planned event" and arrested three suspects as of Sunday.

This came after several other looters vandalized and stole from a Yves Saint Laurent, Louis Vuitton and several other retailers in San Francisco's Union Square on Friday night, which resulted in the arrest of eight suspects, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. The Chronicle also reported that additional looting took place Sunday at a jewelry store in Hayward's Southland Mall and at a Lululemon in San Jose.

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