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Colin Powell dead at 84--from Covid!

Maybe now you all will stop this silly stuff and get vaccinated. Powell was a liar on Iraq War but his death should wake people up. Should wake up right wing, because why would deep state want to kill a former general?

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 10/18/21 8:15am

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He was fully vaccinated. Get your facts straight.


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

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Reply #2 posted 10/18/21 8:31am

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Reply #3 posted 10/18/21 10:17am

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grrr

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Reply #4 posted 10/18/21 10:39am

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Note he got to go to Walter Reed.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #5 posted 10/18/21 1:37pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:

He was fully vaccinated. Get your facts straight.




And would likely still be alive if every other fool was as well!
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Reply #6 posted 10/18/21 4:18pm

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A great American, and a son of the Caribbean as I am

Godspeed, my good Sir
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Reply #7 posted 10/18/21 5:21pm

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A great American, and a son of the Caribbean as I am

Godspeed, my good Sir

Wow, prayers to his family. RIP. rose rose
Also didn’t know he had myeloma cancer and Parkinson’s. Read that even though he was fully vaccinated, those who are immunocompromised are at greater risk for covid19.
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Reply #8 posted 10/18/21 8:37pm

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Stop the madness. Dude had Cancer & he was 84 years old.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #9 posted 10/18/21 9:27pm

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Stop the madness. Dude had Cancer & he was 84 years old.


Yeah, talk about misinformation. He had a blood cancer and another condition that greatly compromised his immune system and overall health when facing something like Covid, or even the flu.

He died from complications from Covid. There's a difference. The complication was he was compromised. His body couldn't stand up to it the way maybe it could have had he not had those other conditions.

But the one truth is that he was a liar about the war in Iraq, and the weapons of mass destruction, he knew there weren't any and he perpetuated the lie anyway.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #10 posted 10/18/21 9:56pm

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Colin Powell, first Black US secretary of state, dies of Covid-19 complications amid cancer battle


https://www.cnn.com/2021/...index.html


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Reply #11 posted 10/18/21 11:15pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Graycap23 said:

Stop the madness. Dude had Cancer & he was 84 years old.


Yeah, talk about misinformation. He had a blood cancer and another condition that greatly compromised his immune system and overall health when facing something like Covid, or even the flu.

He died from complications from Covid. There's a difference. The complication was he was compromised. His body couldn't stand up to it the way maybe it could have had he not had those other conditions.

But the one truth is that he was a liar about the war in Iraq, and the weapons of mass destruction, he knew there weren't any and he perpetuated the lie anyway.

Bingo. How many 1,000's died because of this nonsense?

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Reply #12 posted 10/19/21 1:01am

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Graycap23 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

But the one truth is that he was a liar about the war in Iraq, and the weapons of mass destruction, he knew there weren't any and he perpetuated the lie anyway.

Bingo. How many 1,000's died because of this nonsense?


And to think Julian Assange, who exposed this mess, was up for assassination by the CIA (namely under pumpkin's watch). People forget it was Wikileaks that exposed the video of the double tap hit. Where the US makes a drone strike, then when first responders show up to help people, they strike again, killing the first responders.

If that shit happened in the U.S., the whole fucking planet would be at war, at the U.S.'s insistence. But if the U.S. does it to some shithole country - oh well. Don't tell anyone. Cuz Powell is a hero for it.

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Reply #13 posted 10/19/21 3:18am

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I watched his speech to the UN live, and remember telling someone, Well, there's no way we're going to war after that. Some blurry photos taken from space is not evidence. Any idiot could see that. He ruined his reputation as someone with integrity.
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Reply #14 posted 10/19/21 5:55pm

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RIP he was a very kind gentleman.

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Graycap23 said:

Stop the madness. Dude had Cancer & he was 84 years old.

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Exactly! nod

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Reply #16 posted 10/20/21 7:54am

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lust said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

He was fully vaccinated. Get your facts straight.


And would likely still be alive if every other fool was as well!


The "vaccines" only work if every one gets them? Really?!?

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Reply #17 posted 10/20/21 10:54am

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djThunderfunk said:



lust said:


fortuneandserendipity said:

He was fully vaccinated. Get your facts straight.




And would likely still be alive if every other fool was as well!


The "vaccines" only work if every one gets them? Really?!?



You’ve built a binary strawman there which tracks from my experience of the anti vax mob in how they seem to understand the world. Such views in regards to the vaccines were somewhat tolerable at the start of 2021 but since then, it’s been explained far too many times to believe that the ignorance is genuine.

As I’m disinclined to defend words that someone has put in my mouth, I’ll leave it there and wish you a shitty day.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #18 posted 10/20/21 4:21pm

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Another war murderer bites the dust. Good riddance.
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Reply #19 posted 10/21/21 6:58am

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lust said:

djThunderfunk said:


The "vaccines" only work if every one gets them? Really?!?

You’ve built a binary strawman there which tracks from my experience of the anti vax mob in how they seem to understand the world. Such views in regards to the vaccines were somewhat tolerable at the start of 2021 but since then, it’s been explained far too many times to believe that the ignorance is genuine. As I’m disinclined to defend words that someone has put in my mouth, I’ll leave it there and wish you a shitty day.


So nasty! Same to ya, sweetheart.

Just so we're clear: the vaccines won't keep me from getting covid, being hospitalized or spreading covid, they won't keep me from needing to social distance, wear a mask or lockdown when mandated, AND they only work if everyone gets them.

That's not a very convincing case for those that already have natural immunity, those that can't get the vaccine for medical reasons, those that won't get it for religious reasons, or those that are suspicious of injecting themselves with a new technology for which we have no idea what the long term effects are.

Just saying...



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Reply #20 posted 10/21/21 11:13am

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Yawn.

I get it. “Something either works 100% or it doesn’t work at all!”

Might as well get rid of all medical care, seat belts, hard hats, contraception…I could go on but anyone other than the genius above probably gets the picture. Even the OP!
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Reply #21 posted 10/21/21 2:39pm

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Yawn. I get it. “Something either works 100% or it doesn’t work at all!” Might as well get rid of all medical care, seat belts, hard hats, contraception…I could go on but anyone other than the genius above probably gets the picture. Even the OP!


Now who's pulling out the strawman? It's not about "100%", it's about 0%.

The "vaccine" doesn't prevent one from catching covid, spreading covid or dying of covid. Getting it does not prevent the need to mask, social distance or lockdown. Other than possibly reducing the severity of symptoms, the vaccine does nothing unless 100% of the population take it?

Well, that's not going to happen. Some people can't get it for medical reasons. So apparently you chose to allow yourself to be experimented on and all you get out of it is less severe symptoms. Maybe.

You been bamboozled, hoodwinked... tricked! wink





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Reply #22 posted 10/21/21 3:11pm

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The "vaccine" doesn't prevent one from catching covid, spreading covid or dying of covid.

And the Earth is flat. I saw it on Youtube.

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Reply #23 posted 10/21/21 3:21pm

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RichardS said:

djThunderfunk said:


The "vaccine" doesn't prevent one from catching covid, spreading covid or dying of covid.

And the Earth is flat. I saw it on Youtube.


Are you under the impression that the vaccine prevents you from catching covid? From spreading it? From dying of it?

If you believe ANY of that then you may as well believe the Earth is flat.

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Reply #24 posted 10/21/21 3:35pm

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djThunderfunk said:

RichardS said:

And the Earth is flat. I saw it on Youtube.


Are you under the impression that the vaccine prevents you from catching covid? From spreading it? From dying of it?

If you believe ANY of that then you may as well believe the Earth is flat.

There are different definitions of 'catching', but the vaccines do help prevent the spread of the disease, and significantly reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

If you don't believe that, then I will simply admire your tin foil hat, and leave it at that.

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RichardS said:

djThunderfunk said:


Are you under the impression that the vaccine prevents you from catching covid? From spreading it? From dying of it?

If you believe ANY of that then you may as well believe the Earth is flat.

There are different definitions of 'catching', but the vaccines do help prevent the spread of the disease, and significantly reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

If you don't believe that, then I will simply admire your tin foil hat, and leave it at that.


If you think what you said contradicts (or even addresses) what I said, then you didn't comprehend what I wrote.

The vaccinated can get covid. Fact. They can spread covid. Fact. They can die from covid. Fact.

In many places the vaccinated still have to mask, social distance and lockdown. Fact.

If you don't believe that you're the one with the tin foil fetish.


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Reply #26 posted 10/21/21 4:55pm

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djThunderfunk said:

RichardS said:

There are different definitions of 'catching', but the vaccines do help prevent the spread of the disease, and significantly reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

If you don't believe that, then I will simply admire your tin foil hat, and leave it at that.


If you think what you said contradicts (or even addresses) what I said, then you didn't comprehend what I wrote.

The vaccinated can get covid. Fact. They can spread covid. Fact. They can die from covid. Fact.

In many places the vaccinated still have to mask, social distance and lockdown. Fact.

If you don't believe that you're the one with the tin foil fetish.


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What you actually said was "The "vaccine" doesn't prevent one from catching covid, spreading covid or dying of covid".

You did not qualify that with a 'necessarily' or 'always'.

Next time, brush up on your grammar, so that you post what you actually mean.

But I'm glad that you didn't disagree with the fact that the vaccines do help prevent the spread of the disease, and significantly reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

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Reply #27 posted 10/21/21 7:25pm

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djThunderfunk said:

RichardS said:

There are different definitions of 'catching', but the vaccines do help prevent the spread of the disease, and significantly reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

If you don't believe that, then I will simply admire your tin foil hat, and leave it at that.


If you think what you said contradicts (or even addresses) what I said, then you didn't comprehend what I wrote.

The vaccinated can get covid. Fact. They can spread covid. Fact. They can die from covid. Fact.

In many places the vaccinated still have to mask, social distance and lockdown. Fact.

If you don't believe that you're the one with the tin foil fetish.


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The vaccinated can get covid, but are significantly less likely to because they have been vaccinated - Fact.

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The vaccinated can spread covid, but are significantly less likely to because they have been vaccinated - Fact. The average time period that vaccinated people may spread covid is significantly shorter than for unvaccinated people and people are working on further reducing this by targeting the initial phases of the infection - Fact

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The vaccinated can be hospitalised by covid, especially if they have a compromised immune system, underlying conditions or comorbidities. However, they are significantly less likely to because they are vaccinated - Fact.

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The vaccinated can still die as a result of having covid, especially if they have a compromised immune system, underlying conditions or comorbidities as Colin Powell did. However, they are significantly less likely to because they are vaccinated. Different cancer treatments rely on suppressing the immune system - Fact

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You need to learn the difference between 100% reduction in risk and a significant reduction in risk.

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That the vaccinated are

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(1) less likely to catch covid,

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(2) less likely to spread covid,

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(3) less likely to need to be hospitalised, required to be in ICU or require to be ventilated, and

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(4) are less likely to die or experience long covid, helps those who genuinely cannot be vaccinated so long as there are not too many numb nuts refusing to vaccinations. No one here has said 100% reduction in risk or 100% required vaccination rate.

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This positive outcome is because it will both slow the spread and slow the mutation of the virus by reducing its rate of transmission.

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Commonsense practices such as vaccines, masks, social distancing and appropriate levels of lockdowns will always apply to outbreaks because they reduce the rate of transmission - Fact. Such reductions may even eliminate the spread of a virus as happened with SARS, but not with MERS.

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Reply #28 posted 10/21/21 8:41pm

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Is this chap for real or is it it a persona designed to look like he can’t grasp simple concepts?
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Reply #29 posted 10/21/21 9:57pm

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RichardS said:

djThunderfunk said:


If you think what you said contradicts (or even addresses) what I said, then you didn't comprehend what I wrote.

The vaccinated can get covid. Fact. They can spread covid. Fact. They can die from covid. Fact.

In many places the vaccinated still have to mask, social distance and lockdown. Fact.

If you don't believe that you're the one with the tin foil fetish.


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What you actually said was "The "vaccine" doesn't prevent one from catching covid, spreading covid or dying of covid".

You did not qualify that with a 'necessarily' or 'always'.

Next time, brush up on your grammar, so that you post what you actually mean.

But I'm glad that you didn't disagree with the fact that the vaccines do help prevent the spread of the disease, and significantly reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

[Edited 10/21/21 17:00pm]


If you get the "vaccine" can you still catch covid? YES

If you get the "vaccine" can you still spread covid? YES

If you get the "vaccine" can you still die from covid? YES

If you get the "vaccine" can you stop masking? NO

If you get the "vaccine" can you stop social distancing? NO

If you get the "vaccine" can you stop lockdowns? NO

This is too simple a concept to misinterpret but whatevs.


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