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coldcoffeeandc
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Black Fishing

I learnt a new term today, black fishing.

It's where Caucasian people try and pass as black.

Here in the uk there is a girl group called little mix. They came from a tv talent show in the 00s but have great voices and catchy songs. They are very pretty, great dancers, a solid pop act.

One member broke away to go solo. She is a caucasian girl with natural curly hair (I think she must use extension too) who tans deeply or gets spray tans, or both.

Anyway, so this group consisted of this lady, a black lady, amother Caucasian lady and a lady whom I am not sure of her heritage. Tonight, the papers report that the black member of the group accused the one that broke away of black fishing with her new single. (Jesy Nelson, boyz) now I don't like this song but it's not aimed at me, it's aimed at teens.

In the UK most schools and neighborhoods are mixed. White and black kids are in friendship groups and influence one another. So white kids are going to be influenced by their black friends style and vice versa.

So this has got me thinking..

Where does fashion end, (mixing styles and copying your peers) and black fishing begin? What is acceptable to share and what isnt?

I'm so interested to hear people's opinions on this as until tonight this wasn't anything I had heard of.
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Reply #1 posted 10/12/21 6:00pm

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This was all over the news in the US a few years ago. I forget who it was about; some YouTube or Instagram person. I can see the pics in my head, but I don't remember who it was.

Definitely something Rachel Dolezal did/does.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #2 posted 10/12/21 6:54pm

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Rachel positioned herself into a power position via lying.

These people aren't widely known because of a multi- century society rule that is still accepted and they aren't in any positions of power.
https://youtu.be/H9mtCLL8rI0

Its all based on the society you live in, there's no hard line rule that the whole world lives by.
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Reply #3 posted 10/13/21 2:40pm

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Studying history may answer questions why some blacks are sensative about their white counterparts using their preceived culture as something for "cool" status points.
https://youtu.be/J26kgGn5TdQ
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I wouldn't necessarily be too hard on Jesy Whatever-her-name-is. Like 99% of pop stars today, she has very little, if any, input or say in how she is presented. How she sings, dances and dresses is decided by a committee of marketing "experts" to ensure maximum short-term exposure. They look at who's popular on social media and design her marketing around that. That's why a lot of modern popstars are indistinguishable from each other. They all look and sound the same because that's what the major labels know will sell. And every now and then they like to get someone who doesn't live up to traditional standards of beauty (think Ed Sheeran or Adele) and they are given a different marketing spin as being the alternative to the "hot, ass-shaking bullshit" that fills up the rest of the top 40. But they're no different, really. Yes, they may have more talent than their "beautiful" counterparts (which is how they got their foot in the door in the first place) but it's still the same old crap being churned out again and again.

So yeah, don't be too hard on this girl for just doing what she's told. If she had a backbone she wouldn't be in the charts.
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onlyforaminute said:

Rachel positioned herself into a power position via lying.

These people aren't widely known because of a multi- century society rule that is still accepted and they aren't in any positions of power.
https://youtu.be/H9mtCLL8rI0

Its all based on the society you live in, there's no hard line rule that the whole world lives by.
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This grandma respects and loves her heritage so much. Thank you for posting I really enjoyed listening to her.
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onlyforaminute said:

Studying history may answer questions why some blacks are sensative about their white counterparts using their preceived culture as something for "cool" status points.
https://youtu.be/J26kgGn5TdQ


I had no idea this happened those poor kids and mothers they don't teach this in school.
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EmmaMcG said:

I wouldn't necessarily be too hard on Jesy Whatever-her-name-is. Like 99% of pop stars today, she has very little, if any, input or say in how she is presented. How she sings, dances and dresses is decided by a committee of marketing "experts" to ensure maximum short-term exposure. They look at who's popular on social media and design her marketing around that. That's why a lot of modern popstars are indistinguishable from each other. They all look and sound the same because that's what the major labels know will sell. And every now and then they like to get someone who doesn't live up to traditional standards of beauty (think Ed Sheeran or Adele) and they are given a different marketing spin as being the alternative to the "hot, ass-shaking bullshit" that fills up the rest of the top 40. But they're no different, really. Yes, they may have more talent than their "beautiful" counterparts (which is how they got their foot in the door in the first place) but it's still the same old crap being churned out again and again.

So yeah, don't be too hard on this girl for just doing what she's told. If she had a backbone she wouldn't be in the charts.


All true, especially the bait and switch Sheehan and adele! The more I've learned about cultural appropriation the more I think her and her team have done it here. Maybe it's an industry wide problem?
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TrivialPursuit said:

This was all over the news in the US a few years ago. I forget who it was about; some YouTube or Instagram person. I can see the pics in my head, but I don't remember who it was.

Definitely something Rachel Dolezal did/does.



Yes! I forgot her! Rachel D made me sad as she knew she was white, but made up this whole thing and took a job a successful black lady should have had,head of Naccp (I don't know the exact acronym) wasn't it? All she had to do was look like her white blonde self. Maybe she'd still have lectured at uni, had the same friends. Married the same guy. How was she not anxious she'd be found out??

She made me wonder at the time if there should be an option for people to call themselves transracial as we have people who are Trans gender in the wrong body. Of course after learning what I have from the post minutes left,in the case of the lady who had black ancestry but appeared white, yet identifies as a black lady, that wouldn't be the right term as she indeed has that in her, ancestral. So that wouldn't fly
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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

TrivialPursuit said:

This was all over the news in the US a few years ago. I forget who it was about; some YouTube or Instagram person. I can see the pics in my head, but I don't remember who it was.

Definitely something Rachel Dolezal did/does.



Yes! I forgot her! Rachel D made me sad as she knew she was white, but made up this whole thing and took a job a successful black lady should have had,head of Naccp (I don't know the exact acronym) wasn't it? All she had to do was look like her white blonde self. Maybe she'd still have lectured at uni, had the same friends. Married the same guy. How was she not anxious she'd be found out??

She made me wonder at the time if there should be an option for people to call themselves transracial as we have people who are Trans gender in the wrong body. Of course after learning what I have from the post minutes left,in the case of the lady who had black ancestry but appeared white, yet identifies as a black lady, that wouldn't be the right term as she indeed has that in her, ancestral. So that wouldn't fly
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There are a lot of Blacks who identify as Black, but can pass for White. yet have no problem accepting all of who they are.

Then you have others who do the ‘pass’ thing, and have physically ‘passed’ most of their lives, because they choose to or may have been raised as ‘White’, with no exposure to being raised in Black cultures.

Then some who choose to ‘pass’ and avoid anything that would expose they are mixed with Black ancestry, because of self-hatred and they find passing as ‘White’ is easier for them. You will find that the latter may also agree with racist Whites(<—Whites who don’t hide their racial prejudice towards Blacks),
and will embrace the same, stereotyped beliefs of Blacks. They do it to appease White people in order to ‘fit-in’ and disassociate themselves from any ‘Black or African’ identity. It’s a pathetic way to be, but many have done it/do that.


Such as the character in the movie ‘Passing’. Looks like this movie ‘Passing’ will be released on Netflix on November 10th. Here’s the trailer.

https://youtu.be/trwq3CNCMkU


See interview with Rebecca Hall who directed the movie:

https://youtu.be/eV0IVQw9jUs
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Have no idea why black fishing would be racist. Is this another woke term?

Isn't the opposite the case, that black fishing is closer to obsequience, paying dues to your influences of a different colour skin, rather than anything taking the piss?


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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fortuneandserendipity said:

Have no idea why black fishing would be racist. Is this another woke term?

Isn't the opposite the case, that black fishing is closer to obsequience, paying dues to your influences of a different colour skin, rather than anything taking the piss?




Given history.
What's wrong with allowing said group to dictate how it wants to be precieved and work out its own issues? Why does it have to cater to your wants? What are you losing out on?


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fortuneandserendipity said:

Have no idea why black fishing would be racist. Is this another woke term?

Isn't the opposite the case, that black fishing is closer to obsequience, paying dues to your influences of a different colour skin, rather than anything taking the piss?


I forget if it is the same term used here or different but last year some were trying to use this kind of thing in connection to people who used 'gifs' that might have a black person it.

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So if say a 'white' person used the gif of actress Viola Davis rolling her eyes and picking up her purse, in response to someone saying something they thought was stupid, that was some kind of 'black fishing' or black face

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OldFriends4Sale said:



fortuneandserendipity said:


Have no idea why black fishing would be racist. Is this another woke term?

Isn't the opposite the case, that black fishing is closer to obsequience, paying dues to your influences of a different colour skin, rather than anything taking the piss?






I forget if it is the same term used here or different but last year some were trying to use this kind of thing in connection to people who used 'gifs' that might have a black person it.


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So if say a 'white' person used the gif of actress Viola Davis rolling her eyes and picking up her purse, in response to someone saying something they thought was stupid, that was some kind of 'black fishing' or black face



I thought using to be preceived as....like cat fishing.

People been using a avatars and gifs around here for decades, an odd question that must have some meaning behind it.
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