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Dave Chappelle’s new Netflix special is so controversial...

a civil rights group wants it pulled

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Truth is tans actors and people are going to have to learn to avoid venues and 'media' outlets that may offend them. The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary. And that doesn't mean people will have to be violent towards them, etc

If you follow Dave's comedy sketches do you think he is transphobic or homophobic?

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The newly released Dave Chappelle Netflix comedy special, The Closer, is an aptly named piece of work if you ask me.

This is the comedian’s sixth and possibly final Netflix stand-up special. So it “closes” out, if you will, a series that also includes the following Chappelle Netflix specials: The Age Of Spin, Deep In The Heart Of Texas, Equanimity, The Bird Revelation, and Sticks & Stones. The Closer is also a great name for Chappelle’s newest project because — good lord, does this man know how to close a deal, or what? Not one, not two or three, but six comedy specials. And with a streamer that seems to love the comedian as much as the audiences who roar with laughter at his often risque and always politically astute brand of comedy.

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The newly released Dave Chappelle Netflix comedy special, The Closer, is an aptly named piece of work if you ask me.

This is the comedian’s sixth and possibly final Netflix stand-up special. So it “closes” out, if you will, a series that also includes the following Chappelle Netflix specials: The Age Of Spin, Deep In The Heart Of Texas, Equanimity, The Bird Revelation, and Sticks & Stones. The Closer is also a great name for Chappelle’s newest project because — good lord, does this man know how to close a deal, or what? Not one, not two or three, but six comedy specials. And with a streamer that seems to love the comedian as much as the audiences who roar with laughter at his often risque and always politically astute brand of comedy.

New Dave Chappelle Netflix special The Closer, now streaming

The Closer debuted on Netflix on Tuesday. Already, it’s garnered a super-strong 96% audience score on the review aggregation site Rotten Tomatoes, based on more than 250 user ratings. But this is not to say, however, that the new special has garnered universal praise.

On the contrary, the special is actually controversial enough that some groups are calling for an outright boycott. And for Netflix to pull it down, even.

The Closer has drawn fire for what some critics are calling transphobic jokes. So much so, that David Johns, executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition, released an angry statement in response. It blasts Netflix for airing Chappelle’s “lazy and hostile transphobia and homophobia.”

2021 is on track, the statement continues, “to be the deadliest year on record for transgender people in the United States … Netflix should immediately pull The Closer from its platform and directly apologize to the transgender community.”

Other criticism

Jaclyn Moore, the executive producer of Dear White People (a Netflix series that just launched its fourth and final season) tweeted along those same lines. As well as a promise to no longer work with the streaming service.

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Reply #1 posted 10/08/21 9:51am

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'Dear White People' showrunner Jaclyn Moore explains why she won't work with Netflix again over Dave Chappelle's trans jokes

Jaclyn Moore on Boycotting Netflix Over Dave Chappelle Special - Variety

zntim@businessinsider.com (Zac Ntim) 5 hrs ago

  • "Dear White People" showrunner Jaclyn Moore announced a boycott of Netflix over Dave Chappelle.
  • Moore said Chappelle's Netflix comedy special included "dangerously transphobic" comments.
  • "They [Netflix] saw this and were like, 'Yeah this seems okay to put out there,'" Moore said.

The showrunner of Netflix's popular series "Dear White People" announced Thursday on Twitter that she would no longer work with the streamer following what she described as "blatant..." comments Dave Chappelle made in his latest comedy special.

During a new interview with Variety, Jaclyn Moore, who transitioned during the pandemic, explained why she has decided to boycott the streamer.

"I never loved Dave's trans material before but this time it felt different," Moore told the publication. "This is the first time I felt like, 'Oh, people are laughing at this joke and they're agreeing that it's absurd to call me a woman.'"

Moore said she had "no desire" to cancel Chappelle, and the comedian should be allowed to "make whatever he wants to make." However, she said she was surprised that Netflix allowed Chappelle's special to air.

"They [Netflix] saw this and were like, 'Yeah this seems okay to put out there,'" Moore said. "I don't know how it got passed because I will say having worked on a show [with Netflix], I know that they think about these things and have conversations about these things."

Insider has contacted Netflix and representatives for Chapelle for comment.

According to a report in The Hollywood Reporter, Chappelle returned to the stage at a show in LA for the first time since "The Closer" aired on Netflix. The publication reports that in response to a standing ovation, Chappelle said: ""If this is what being canceled is like, I love it."

Dave Chapelle during "The Closer." Mathieu Bitton

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The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary.


Only if they're assholes.

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Jimmie Walker defends Dave Chappelle, slams cancel culture

'Good Times' actor Jimmie Walker says cancel culture will be 'really rough' on comedy in coming years

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I have nothing against trans people. I believe everyone should be free to live how they want and as long as you're not breaking any laws then I see no reason why anyone would have an issue with anyone else. I also think that coming out as trans must be a terrifying thing to do and I applaud the bravery of anyone who is willing to put themselves through that experience in order to live the life they choose.

But I also believe that no subject should be off limits when it comes to comedy. There should never be a situation where it's ok to make fun of this group over here but that group over there is off limits. It's things like that that actually help create hatred of a certain group. To treat them differently and say you can't make jokes about them just creates more division. They're people, just like you and I. If a comedian can get up on stage and make "drunken Irish" jokes then why can't he joke about trans people? Or black people? Or religion? I fully believe that we are all equals so what's fair for one is fair for everyone.

Plus, if we're going to start "cancelling" comedians for telling offensive jokes then pretty much every comedian you've ever heard of will be cancelled. Richard Pryor, Rodney Dangerfield, George Carlin, Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, Bill Burr, Bill Hicks, Dennis Leary, Chris Rock, Bernie Mac, Chris Tucker, Don Rickles, Conan O'Brien and even Johnny Carson would all be cancelled. Where does it end?
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TrivialPursuit said:

OldFriends4Sale said:


The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary.


Only if they're assholes.

not really. It's never that black or white. Never

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People will tolerate, people will do other things, people can ignore or stay quiet, or avoid, and there is a difference when dealing with homosexual or bisexuality vs transgendered issues.
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I mean are the girls, assholes, who have issues with physically males who say they are female competing with them in sports? Or 'trans women' who are still phyically men, coming into the womens dressing rooms or bathrooms?

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A gay mens camp was accused of being transphobic when they did not admit 'trans men' Are they assholes or are they just not attracted to pussy?

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I mean I respect all humans(overall) I treat people respectfully and think everyone should have a change to figure out their lifes journey. My first openly direct interaction with a trans person was like 2015 and they were working at Best Buy during Christmas. I purposefully put myself in a position to allow them to assist me. But I want to discuss this in the 'culture' of comedy.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gay-campground-banning-transgender-men

Gay campground under fire for banning transgender men from the park

| February 24, 2021 12:46 PM

A gay campground in Michigan is under fire for having a rule that bans transgender people who identify as male from joining the membership-only park.

“Camp Boomerang is a private, membership-only rv park/campground that allows only ‘guys,’” wrote park co-owner Bryan Quinn in a since-deleted Facebook post. “A ‘guy,’ in terms of this discussion, is defined as a person with a penis, [who] presents himself as male and has a state-issued ID that says ‘male.'”

“It is our hope that everyone who visits Camp Boomerang enjoys a comfortable, safe, non-confrontational environment going forward,” Quinn continued. “Being a ‘private membership only’ entity allows us the ability to build a like-minded atmosphere. We don’t mean for this to come off as a ‘like it or leave it’ attitude, but we feel it’s necessary for everyone to know exactly what our vision is for Camp Boomerang.”

The park's co-owner said he understood the sensitivity of the topic, saying that the post was only an attempt to clarify the camp’s rules.

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“We understand this statement, unfortunately, may not make everyone happy, but feel it needs to be clarified,” Quinn said.

His prediction that not everyone would be happy was quickly realized, with one user asking whether the camp would be requiring “penis checks” in order to be admitted.

“Listen guys, we NEVER said anything about ‘penis checks,’ but let’s be real here,” Quinn responded. “If we let women that act like men in, and they go naked at the pool, that’s when it’s obvious that there’s no penis. Sorry to put it bluntly. But if you don’t like the rules, quietly leave.”

That response didn’t sit well with another commenter, who accused Quinn of being “cowardly” for turning off comments without giving others the chance to express their displeasure with the camp’s rules...

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LGB Fight Back - A Rift In The Community | Real Talk with Zuby

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Belissa Cohen and Carrie Hathorn are representatives of 'LGB Fight Back', a multi-generational, US based, grassroots organization of lesbian, gay, and bi people who advocate for the interests of the LGB community.

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It's never that siimple. But dealing with topic at hand, comedy, and what or who should be off limits is very sketchy

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Reply #6 posted 10/08/21 12:53pm

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Bash rich people, bash war, bash liberals, bash cops you motherfucker.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #7 posted 10/08/21 1:47pm

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Bash rich people, bash war, bash liberals, bash cops you motherfucker.


Bash politicians across the board, money-hungry preachers, war, the rich, cops.

If someone has a problem with an LGBTQ+ person, fuck you.

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Only in the U.S.

It's JOKEs folks........nothing 2 see here.

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Reply #9 posted 10/08/21 3:31pm

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Only in the U.S.

It's JOKEs folks........nothing 2 see here.

Exactly...this whole 'cancel culture' is getting out of hand.

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Reply #10 posted 10/08/21 3:50pm

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Truth is tans actors and people are going to have to learn to avoid venues and 'media' outlets that may offend them. The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary. And that doesn't mean people will have to be violent towards them, etc

I've always hated the word 'acceptance' - to me, it implies one is higher than another (like blacks who look for acceptance from whites). No one needs a 'stamp of approval' from anyone. We don't have to like each other or another person's lifestyle. Just live your life, don't interfere with others lives and obey the law.

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Reply #11 posted 10/08/21 4:01pm

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uPtoWnNY said:



OldFriends4Sale said:



Truth is tans actors and people are going to have to learn to avoid venues and 'media' outlets that may offend them. The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary. And that doesn't mean people will have to be violent towards them, etc





I've always hated the word 'acceptance' - to me, it implies one is higher than another (like blacks who look for acceptance from whites). No one needs a 'stamp of approval' from anyone. We don't have to like each other or another person's lifestyle. Just live your life, don't interfere with others lives and obey the law.




I agree 1000%
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uPtoWnNY said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Truth is tans actors and people are going to have to learn to avoid venues and 'media' outlets that may offend them. The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary. And that doesn't mean people will have to be violent towards them, etc

I've always hated the word 'acceptance' - to me, it implies one is higher than another (like blacks who look for acceptance from whites). No one needs a 'stamp of approval' from anyone. We don't have to like each other or another person's lifestyle. Just live your life, don't interfere with others lives and obey the law.

yep. I dont see anyone upset about the "N" word 200 times.

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I have nothing against trans people. I believe everyone should be free to live how they want and as long as you're not breaking any laws then I see no reason why anyone would have an issue with anyone else. I also think that coming out as trans must be a terrifying thing to do and I applaud the bravery of anyone who is willing to put themselves through that experience in order to live the life they choose.

But I also believe that no subject should be off limits when it comes to comedy. There should never be a situation where it's ok to make fun of this group over here but that group over there is off limits. It's things like that that actually help create hatred of a certain group. To treat them differently and say you can't make jokes about them just creates more division. They're people, just like you and I. If a comedian can get up on stage and make "drunken Irish" jokes then why can't he joke about trans people? Or black people? Or religion? I fully believe that we are all equals so what's fair for one is fair for everyone.

Plus, if we're going to start "cancelling" comedians for telling offensive jokes then pretty much every comedian you've ever heard of will be cancelled. Richard Pryor, Rodney Dangerfield, George Carlin, Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, Bill Burr, Bill Hicks, Dennis Leary, Chris Rock, Bernie Mac, Chris Tucker, Don Rickles, Conan O'Brien and even Johnny Carson would all be cancelled. Where does it end?

Good point.
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Watched it. I'm on Dave's side.
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Reply #15 posted 10/09/21 7:08am

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....But I also believe that no subject should be off limits when it comes to comedy....

Does that mean I can get all my old Holocaust jokes out my drawer?

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RichardS said:



EmmaMcG said:


....But I also believe that no subject should be off limits when it comes to comedy....

Does that mean I can get all my old Holocaust jokes out my drawer?



Only if they're funny wink
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Graycap23 said:



uPtoWnNY said:




OldFriends4Sale said:



Truth is tans actors and people are going to have to learn to avoid venues and 'media' outlets that may offend them. The fact is most people are not going to overall 'accept' transgender and non binary. And that doesn't mean people will have to be violent towards them, etc





I've always hated the word 'acceptance' - to me, it implies one is higher than another (like blacks who look for acceptance from whites). No one needs a 'stamp of approval' from anyone. We don't have to like each other or another person's lifestyle. Just live your life, don't interfere with others lives and obey the law.



yep. I dont see anyone upset about the "N" word 200 times.



It’s funny, because some of the same people who are defending Chappelle’s tranny material (not you Greycap) bashed ME for supporting his use of the word “nigger” (I have said everything must be looked at in context)

But I guess everyone has something that sticks in their craw....
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Calling this controversial shows just how fucked this country has become.

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Dave Chappelle is speaking his truth, no more or less. Any of his haters that has a problem with that, I say finger to all of them!

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Political Correctness & Cancel Culture are going to ruin the stand-up comedy business if we continue wasting our time with haters all of in their damn feelings about what we should OR should not find funny. If you cannot handle the comedy that Dave Chappelle, George Lopez, & Andrew Dice Clay specialize in, then stay the f--- out of the venues!

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EmmaMcG said:

I have nothing against trans people. I believe everyone should be free to live how they want and as long as you're not breaking any laws then I see no reason why anyone would have an issue with anyone else. I also think that coming out as trans must be a terrifying thing to do and I applaud the bravery of anyone who is willing to put themselves through that experience in order to live the life they choose. But I also believe that no subject should be off limits when it comes to comedy. There should never be a situation where it's ok to make fun of this group over here but that group over there is off limits. It's things like that that actually help create hatred of a certain group. To treat them differently and say you can't make jokes about them just creates more division. They're people, just like you and I. If a comedian can get up on stage and make "drunken Irish" jokes then why can't he joke about trans people? Or black people? Or religion? I fully believe that we are all equals so what's fair for one is fair for everyone. Plus, if we're going to start "cancelling" comedians for telling offensive jokes then pretty much every comedian you've ever heard of will be cancelled. Richard Pryor, Rodney Dangerfield, George Carlin, Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, Bill Burr, Bill Hicks, Dennis Leary, Chris Rock, Bernie Mac, Chris Tucker, Don Rickles, Conan O'Brien and even Johnny Carson would all be cancelled. Where does it end?

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Years before George Lopez & Dave Chappelle, some haters tried to cancelled [actually "banned" was the word back then....] Andrew Dice Clay. And THIS was the early 1990's! So haters trying to derided the career of stand-up comedians are nothing new.

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Decades early, they tried to cancelled Lenny Bruce. Research THAT moment in history.

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Dave Chappelle is speaking his truth, no more or less. Any of his haters that has a problem with that, I say finger to all of them!

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Political Correctness & Cancel Culture are going to ruin the stand-up comedy business if we continue wasting our time with haters all of in there damn feelings about what we should OR should not find funny. If you cannot handle the comedy that Dave Chappelle, George Lopez, & Andrew Dice Clay specialize in, then stay the f--- out of the venues!

Not only that, but these days you're considered '-phobic' if you have a certain dating preference.

As Graycap said, society is fucked up.

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Reply #22 posted 10/10/21 8:04am

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Once again...LIBERALS RUIN EVERYTHING!

Everything WOKE turns to SHIT

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Reply #23 posted 10/10/21 10:28am

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Chapelle talks about hurting a gay person's feelings.

What if some redneck singer said that there weren't any nasty black people with sickle cell at his concert, or anyone eating chicken and watermelon. And that person got canceled.

What would he say then?
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uPtoWnNY said:

TonyVanDam said:

Dave Chappelle is speaking his truth, no more or less. Any of his haters that has a problem with that, I say finger to all of them!

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Political Correctness & Cancel Culture are going to ruin the stand-up comedy business if we continue wasting our time with haters all of in there damn feelings about what we should OR should not find funny. If you cannot handle the comedy that Dave Chappelle, George Lopez, & Andrew Dice Clay specialize in, then stay the f--- out of the venues!

Not only that, but these days you're considered '-phobic' if you have a certain dating preference.

As Graycap said, society is fucked up.

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A lesbian woman is now transphobic because she only into biological women that were born with real vaginas and not the post-op transwomen with high priced designer vaginas. Wow. rolleyes lol

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TruthBomb said:

Once again...LIBERALS RUIN EVERYTHING!

Everything WOKE turns to SHIT

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It does seems that most conservatives, moderates, & libertarians can take jokes better than most of the left-wingers in general. hmmm

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Reply #26 posted 10/11/21 1:04am

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Watched it. I'm on Dave's side.


Same here.

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TonyVanDam said:



TruthBomb said:


Once again...LIBERALS RUIN EVERYTHING!




Everything WOKE turns to SHIT



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It does seems that most conservatives, moderates, & libertarians can take jokes better than most of the left-wingers in general. hmmm



I’m not that sure about that....
Ask Bill Maher when he bashes religion
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TonyVanDam said:

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It does seems that most conservatives, moderates, & libertarians can take jokes better than most of the left-wingers in general. hmmm

I’m not that sure about that.... Ask Bill Maher when he bashes religion

White conservative types get all triggered about religion and their hero Trump.

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uPtoWnNY said:

jjhunsecker said:

TonyVanDam said: I’m not that sure about that.... Ask Bill Maher when he bashes religion

White conservative types get all triggered about religion and their hero Trump.

Fuck all of them

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