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Reply #30 posted 09/09/21 1:34pm

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If this is the definition you like...

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.


"authoritarian" and "forcible suppression of opposition" are the qualities that matter to me.

Antifa embraces those qualities. As do ALL communists. Those that accept these qualities as long as they are not coming from the "far-right" are just as bad as those they claim to oppose.

Fuck ALL authoritarians and all those that support them and deflect for them.

That argument is in essence saying the one homogenous group that make up the antifa movement are all (or nearly all, or mostly) as individuals far-right, authoritarian ultranationalists.

Which as a gross generalization is simply not true.

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It is based on the lie that DJ is told by the far-right media if you don't call any left wing protest "antifa" and then go to illogically and erroneously call antifa "fascists", then you are supporting them. If you don't believe the propaganda that it is was all antifa, then you are deflecting for them.

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Note: He keeps on posting videos by Andy Ngo, an embedded far-right media propagandist in the Proud Boys but he NEVER finds fault with them. Instead he posts the Andy Ngo/Proud Boys spin that this event was a Christian gathering that was attacked by antifa. It was not. It was a fight between far-right gangs and far-left gangs that started on a different street from where the Christian gathering was and it continued on after the Christian group left.

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No one here but DJ has defended one side over the other. It is just far-right and erroneous tagging to call anyone opposed to them "fascists" and, at the same time "antifa". Forceful suppression of opposition is often done verbally or through media (including social media). When you see a person forcefully pushing the spin by his side and using cancel culture methods to shutdown any opposition by grouping anyone who disagrees with the far-right spin a supporter of communism or antifa - then fuck this and ALL authoritarians including those that post their propaganda.

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Reply #31 posted 09/09/21 4:55pm

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RichardS said:

djThunderfunk said:


If this is the definition you like...

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.


"authoritarian" and "forcible suppression of opposition" are the qualities that matter to me.

Antifa embraces those qualities. As do ALL communists. Those that accept these qualities as long as they are not coming from the "far-right" are just as bad as those they claim to oppose.

Fuck ALL authoritarians and all those that support them and deflect for them.

That argument is in essence saying the one homogenous group that make up the antifa movement are all (or nearly all, or mostly) as individuals far-right, authoritarian ultranationalists.

Which as a gross generalization is simply not true.


You either misunderstand what I am saying or are mischaracterizing it, but I'm not saying that at all.

I'm saying antifa are AUTHORITARIAN and that they use forcible suppression against opposition. I am not saying they are far-right or ultranationalists.

I'm also saying that "authoritarian" and "forcible suppression of opposition" are the qualities of fascism in that definition that I am most opposed to. Those that are only opposed to authoritarianism and forcible suppresion of opposition when it comes from the political right but are just fine with it coming from the political left, apparently embrace the elements of fascism that most people are opposed to.


ALL authoritarians are fascists, ALL fascists are evil.
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Reply #32 posted 09/09/21 5:07pm

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RichardS said:

djThunderfunk said:


If this is the definition you like...

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.


"authoritarian" and "forcible suppression of opposition" are the qualities that matter to me.

Antifa embraces those qualities. As do ALL communists. Those that accept these qualities as long as they are not coming from the "far-right" are just as bad as those they claim to oppose.

Fuck ALL authoritarians and all those that support them and deflect for them.


That argument is in essence saying the one homogenous group that make up the antifa movement are all (or nearly all, or mostly) as individuals far-right, authoritarian ultranationalists.

Which as a gross generalization is simply not true.


thumbs up!



The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

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Reply #33 posted 09/10/21 7:19am

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not going to create another thread on Woke Women White



It is interesting yet again that these people think it is ok to assault a person of color and use racist words and imagery and it's supposed to be ok as long as the POC is not 'liberal or Democratic'



So Larry Elders has an egg thrown at him by a white woman wearing a gorrilla mask



Is this stuff in their training manuals about being anti-racist?



I guess it did not include in the manual that a large percentage of black folk are actually conservative(even if they are registered Democrats)

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The press have found a white-on-black assault they don’t care about, and all it took was for the victim to be a conservative.

The gorilla mask-wearing woman who threw an egg at California recall candidate Larry Elder and punched his security guard should be charged with a hate crime, said Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva.

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The unidentified woman was seen in a viral video riding a bicycle next to Elder and his guards after a campaign event in Venice Beach. She threw an egg that narrowly missed Elder’s head, and then she punched a security guard.

"QUESTION: How is this not a hate crime?" Villanueva tweeted Thursday. "ANSWER: Because 'woke privilege' means a white woman can wear a gorilla mask and attack a black man without fear of being called a racist. Where is the outrage from our politicians? #Hypocrisy #WokePrivilege @LarryElder @GavinNewsom."

The tweet was followed with a response by former Democratic state Sen. Gloria Romero, an Elder supporter, who listed several politicians who have been silent on the attack so far.

"Thank you, Sheriff, for calling it out. Where’s @LAdemocrats @latimes @LAPDChiefMoore @GavinNewsom @VP @RobertGarcia @fionama @BettyYeeforCA @EleniForCA @CASenateDems @AssemblyDems @LaOpinionLA?" Romero wrote. "Don’t hide now! Can you decry the racism against @larryelder."

LAPD, which has jurisdiction over Venice Beach, did not respond when asked whether it was investigating the incident. However, Villanueva said he learned the case would be investigated by LAPD's robbery-homicide unit.

“She might be one of the 20,000 felons from our prisons released by our soft-on-crime governor,” Elder said on Tucker Carlson Tonight about the suspect.

Villanueva has been a frequent critic of Los Angeles politicians and Gov. Gavin Newsom for an exploding homeless population and rise in crime.

Villanueva, a Democrat, often calls out the “woke Left.”

“Just imagine the outrage if the roles had been reversed. We would never hear the end of it,” he told the Washington Examiner. “People need to be held accountable on both sides of the aisle. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Why didn’t Gavin Newsom call out this reprehensible behavior? I distinctly remember John McCain defending Obama when someone said something. God bless him as a true patriot.”

Villanueva said he would investigate the assault as a hate crime because the woman wore a gorilla mask.

“It conveniently hides her identity, but there was a message there. She could’ve picked a Groucho Marx mask,” he said. “I think the message was clear.”

LA sheriff on Larry Elder... (msn.com)

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Reply #34 posted 09/10/21 7:55am

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Larry Elder is not a Black Conservative like Condolezza Rice or Colin Powell or Robert George or Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell ... people that one could have a honest disagreement on the issues and philosophies with.

Instead, he is a psychotic self hating buck dancing lawn jockey who craves the attention and approval of those who would normally hate his guts on sight. He would probably require extensive psychological treatment to get to the root cause of what brought him to this place.

And I certainly don’t approve of what that woman did.... but to quote my man Chris Rock... I understand
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Reply #35 posted 09/10/21 8:01am

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so it's ok to wear a gorilla mask ...

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Reply #36 posted 09/10/21 8:19am

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Depends on the context...
Do we know that it was meant to be “racist “ ?
I mean, it’s not like she created a picture of him with a bone in his nose, or superimposed his face onto a gorilla’s body
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Reply #37 posted 09/10/21 9:29am

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sorry boss. wrong is wrong. if they are teaching these people(mainly women that I'm seeing) that it is ok to say and do disrespectful things like that to a POC because he/she doesn't believe the way they/you do, then that is hypocracy.

If I was there and saw it I would have written my initials into her back with my leather belt

maybe she did the training

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Reply #38 posted 09/10/21 9:42am

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I think I pretty clearly stated that I didn’t approve of throwing things at anyone

As for the mask, I don’t know if that’s automatically “racist “
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Reply #39 posted 09/10/21 9:54am

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And Elder- who “mentored” Stephen Miller, among other atrocities- should be the last person crying “racism “ over anything

He needs psychiatric care
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I hope he wins California, we are talking about California after all

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Reply #41 posted 09/10/21 10:08am

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I hope he learns why he turned into a lawn jockey who loves getting his head rubbed for the approval... It’s almost sad when someone is so filled with self hate and hate for their own people that they would grovel for a few minutes to get to tap dance for their “betters”

But that’s just my opinion
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Reply #42 posted 09/10/21 10:36am

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of course

he should know better than to leave the Democratic party

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Reply #43 posted 09/10/21 10:54am

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It has absolutely nothing with being a Democrat or a liberal or a progressive. A Black person can be a conservative or a Republican WITHOUT being a boot licking self hating lackey buck dancing Samuel Beaux

But Elder chose a different path, like Candace “Prissy” Owens

It’s sad when someone despises who they are, and only have contempt for their own people
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anytime a black person or POC identifies as conservative or republican all the name calling ad hominiem attacks come out... leave the Democratic party and get what you deserve

that white women wearing a gorrilla mask, ain't right and no one would be asking 'what were the circumsances' if the person was no Conservative/Republican. Larry isn't the only one that they go after like this. Police, politicians average people... if a gorrilla mask and throw eggs at him and his BLACK wife is how she or anyone needs to respond they are probably just triggered he is towing the Democratic plantation. The energy is almost like when a black person marries someone that isn't black, the slur and ad hominiem attacks fly

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Former California Democrat leader backing Larry Elder for governor

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Reply #45 posted 09/10/21 1:23pm

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I named several Black Republicans and Conservatives who I, and many others, disagree with politically, but still respect as fellow Americans and fellow Blacks. They are not boot licking lackeys.

But can you say that self hating minstrel show bow and scrape boos DON’T EXIST? Never????

And I avoid too much internet sites like Facebook and YouTube, where any idiot can just spout off as much nonsense as they can. Why would I care what some moron said on those sites (and they might just be saying shit to get attention anyway)? It doesn’t help ME in any way to take any of that seriously

And “Democratic plantation “? Are you guys going to ever come up with new material???
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Reply #46 posted 09/11/21 10:05am

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Larry Elder is what we call a Colored Or Other Negro
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Reply #47 posted 09/11/21 12:35pm

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I named several Black Republicans and Conservatives who I, and many others, disagree with politically, but still respect as fellow Americans and fellow Blacks. They are not boot licking lackeys. But can you say that self hating minstrel show bow and scrape boos DON’T EXIST? Never???? And I avoid too much internet sites like Facebook and YouTube, where any idiot can just spout off as much nonsense as they can. Why would I care what some moron said on those sites (and they might just be saying shit to get attention anyway)? It doesn’t help ME in any way to take any of that seriously And “Democratic plantation “? Are you guys going to ever come up with new material??? [Edited 9/10/21 13:25pm]

You've been saying this for years, but these Org Conservative Union dudes don't get it. It's like they're being stubborn on purpose.

You can be black and conservative without throwing your own people under the bus, which is what Larry Elder, Allen West and that fraud Candace Owens do all the time. i have some conservative views myself, but I'll never put down black folks just to make brownie points with right-wing bigots (like Clarence Thomas calling Jessie Helms a dear friend).

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uPtoWnNY said:



jjhunsecker said:


I named several Black Republicans and Conservatives who I, and many others, disagree with politically, but still respect as fellow Americans and fellow Blacks. They are not boot licking lackeys. But can you say that self hating minstrel show bow and scrape boos DON’T EXIST? Never???? And I avoid too much internet sites like Facebook and YouTube, where any idiot can just spout off as much nonsense as they can. Why would I care what some moron said on those sites (and they might just be saying shit to get attention anyway)? It doesn’t help ME in any way to take any of that seriously And “Democratic plantation “? Are you guys going to ever come up with new material??? [Edited 9/10/21 13:25pm]


You've been saying this for years, but these Org Conservative Union dudes don't get it. It's like they're being stubborn on purpose.



You can be black and conservative without throwing your own people under the bus, which is what Larry Elder, Allen West and that fraud Candace Owens do all the time. i have some conservative views myself, but I'll never put down black folks just to make brownie points with right-wing bigots (like Clarence Thomas calling Jessie Helms a dear friend).



You have to wonder if they are being deliberately dense on purpose, because they are unable to argue with what we say. It’s easier to attack the messenger than to grapple with the message.

And I suspect that some of them are confused and consumed by the same self hatred that Elder and Owens display
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Reply #49 posted 09/11/21 3:18pm

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It has absolutely nothing with being a Democrat or a liberal or a progressive. A Black person can be a conservative or a Republican WITHOUT being a boot licking self hating lackey buck dancing Samuel Beaux

But Elder chose a different path, like Candace “Prissy” Owens

It’s sad when someone despises who they are, and only have contempt for their own people

100% agree. Having different political views is one thing, but becoming like the character that actor S.Jackson played in ‘Django’ is unacceptable and unnecessary. Elders has always been a kiss ass. I can’t even take him seriously. Some Black conservatives just go way too far to appease some of the same folks, who don’t hide their stereotyped views of Black Americans.

If anything, folks like Candace and Elders tend to keep the racist, stereotyped views ripe, and the plantation buck dancing going.
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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

It has absolutely nothing with being a Democrat or a liberal or a progressive. A Black person can be a conservative or a Republican WITHOUT being a boot licking self hating lackey buck dancing Samuel Beaux

But Elder chose a different path, like Candace “Prissy” Owens

It’s sad when someone despises who they are, and only have contempt for their own people

100% agree. Having different political views is one thing, but becoming like the character that actor S.Jackson played in ‘Django’ is unacceptable and unnecessary. Elders has always been a kiss ass. I can’t even take him seriously. Some Black conservatives just go way too far to appease some of the same folks, who don’t hide their stereotyped views of Black Americans.

If anything, folks like Candace and Elders tend to keep the racist, stereotyped views ripe, and the plantation buck dancing going.
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And I ask : what Black man with an ounce of self respect would associate with a racist piece of shit like Stephen Miller ? This has nothing do with politics or idiocy like being “stuck on the Democratic plantations “ and everything with having a sense of dignity and self worth
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Reply #51 posted 09/11/21 7:48pm

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And I ask : what Black man with an ounce of self respect would associate with a racist piece of shit like Stephen Miller ? This has nothing do with politics or idiocy like being “stuck on the Democratic plantations “ and everything with having a sense of dignity and self worth

How about Allen West assiciating with that vile, racist piece of shit Ted Nugent. Sounds like he's stuck on the GOP plantation.

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uPtoWnNY said:



jjhunsecker said:



And I ask : what Black man with an ounce of self respect would associate with a racist piece of shit like Stephen Miller ? This has nothing do with politics or idiocy like being “stuck on the Democratic plantations “ and everything with having a sense of dignity and self worth


How about Allen West assiciating with that vile, racist piece of shit Ted Nugent. Sounds like he's stuck on the GOP plantation.



They’re a bunch of cotton picking lawn jockeys, just happy to bow and scrape when the massa shows them a moment of attention
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Reply #53 posted 09/14/21 5:30am

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Those brave fascism fighters were out in full force in Portland protecting us all from the fascism of Christian music.

https://www.infowars.com/...-portland/


Antifa is authoritarian. I call it fascism you can can call it Stalinism, don't care. Same evil, same scumbags.

Back to the topic now

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LOL I've seen video of antifa going after all kinds of groups. I think these people will wear their bodies out in a short period of time. But hey Portland is a sesspool of some wild stuff. Are they still fighting over in Portland? It's like they are people who are tired of video games and now want to act it out live.

Not my generation lol

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"However, as soon as night fell and the larger crowd dispersed, Antifa sought to pick off attendees one by one as they chased them on the streets and attacked them with missiles and pepper spray."

"Antifa battled with a right-wing volunteer security group after the Evangelical worship event as people dispersed downtown Portland. The streets were shut down."

Another video shows a man armed being verbally abused by Antifa members (the only reason they don’t physically attack him being the fact that he’s armed with a rifle).

The Antifa extremists demand the man be arrested by the same police they want to defund and abolish.

Portland: A man armed with a rifle is followed & threatened by a mob of antifa. He calls police and walks calmly to the central police station while antifa, who want police abolished, demand he be arrested.


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jj, you sound like a white southerner.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #55 posted 09/15/21 4:23pm

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Thank you Jesus that the tap dancing fool lost his chance to enter politics. Back to radio, boo
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Reply #56 posted 09/18/21 2:58pm

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jjhunsecker said:

he is a psychotic self hating buck dancing lawn jockey


So we can say toxic shit like this and not get snipped now? Classy!! lol

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anytime a black person or POC identifies as conservative or republican all the name calling ad hominiem attacks come out... leave the Democratic party and get what you deserve


It's called racism. It's clear in the language used to describe them. It's clear in the anger at them for stepping out of line. And it always comes from those quickest to accuse others of racism.

It's just gross.


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They’re a bunch of cotton picking lawn jockeys, just happy to bow and scrape when the massa shows them a moment of attention


Doubling down? NICE! lol

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djThunderfunk said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

anytime a black person or POC identifies as conservative or republican all the name calling ad hominiem attacks come out... leave the Democratic party and get what you deserve


It's called racism. It's clear in the language used to describe them. It's clear in the anger at them for stepping out of line. And it always comes from those quickest to accuse others of racism.

It's just gross.


I know. It's racism. There is no excuse for it. If that white woman in the gorilla mask feels righteous enough to do that, any other person she disagrees with she'll do the same. There is no justification for it.

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