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Reply #90 posted 07/27/21 2:27pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Strive said:

Oh and speaking of the Foo Fighters.

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"Despite having made every effort to follow CDC Covid protocols and local laws, there has been a confirmed Covid-19 case within the Foo Fighters organization,” the Foo Fighters explained on Twitter. “Out of an abundance of caution and concern for the safety of the band, crew and most of all the fans, Saturday’s show at the Los Angeles Forum is being postponed to a later date. The new date will be announced shortly. Tickets for the July 17th date will be honored for the new date.”

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What? How can you still catch covid if you are vaccinated and follow all CDC Covid protocols? Must be those shifty unvaccinated people shake Why can't we just put them in camps sad

This is why people think you're a troll alt account. Because nobody can actually be THAT stupid lol

Are you sure ??

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Reply #91 posted 07/27/21 2:29pm

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Strive said:

Oh and speaking of the Foo Fighters.

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"Despite having made every effort to follow CDC Covid protocols and local laws, there has been a confirmed Covid-19 case within the Foo Fighters organization,” the Foo Fighters explained on Twitter. “Out of an abundance of caution and concern for the safety of the band, crew and most of all the fans, Saturday’s show at the Los Angeles Forum is being postponed to a later date. The new date will be announced shortly. Tickets for the July 17th date will be honored for the new date.”

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What? How can you still catch covid if you are vaccinated and follow all CDC Covid protocols? Must be those shifty unvaccinated people shake Why can't we just put them in camps sad

That shows HOW infective it could be...

But again, if you choose not to mask or take the vaccine, that's all on you...If you die, you die shrug

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Reply #92 posted 07/27/21 2:32pm

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Strive said:



EmmaMcG said:


This is why people think you're a troll alt account. Because nobody can actually be THAT stupid lol


Having a sense of humor means I'm a troll? And what's the point of an alt account? I do everything on this one. Feel free to check my post history and see me talking about Prince in the normal forum. Why would I do that if I had a main account I was trying to keep clean?



If I had to guess I'd say it's so that you could point to your more sane comments as "proof" that you're not a troll? Ultimately, I really couldn't give a fuck one way or another. If you're just trolling, then more power to you. If you're actually serious with the nonsense you post, then I feel bad for you that you've believed all the bullshit and lies you've been told. But your delusions don't harm me in any way and I find you entertaining regardless. Disagreements on political or religious issues doesn't mean all that much to me.
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Reply #93 posted 07/27/21 2:34pm

EmmaMcG

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jjhunsecker said:



EmmaMcG said:


Strive said:

Oh and speaking of the Foo Fighters.


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"Despite having made every effort to follow CDC Covid protocols and local laws, there has been a confirmed Covid-19 case within the Foo Fighters organization,” the Foo Fighters explained on Twitter. “Out of an abundance of caution and concern for the safety of the band, crew and most of all the fans, Saturday’s show at the Los Angeles Forum is being postponed to a later date. The new date will be announced shortly. Tickets for the July 17th date will be honored for the new date.”


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What? How can you still catch covid if you are vaccinated and follow all CDC Covid protocols? Must be those shifty unvaccinated people shake Why can't we just put them in camps sad



This is why people think you're a troll alt account. Because nobody can actually be THAT stupid lol


Are you sure ??



I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
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Reply #94 posted 07/27/21 3:28pm

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EmmaMcG said:

jjhunsecker said:

Are you sure ??

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

Seriously, their posts should've given you warning not to give them the benefit of the doubt. wink lol

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Reply #95 posted 07/27/21 3:34pm

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The hospital sent out a memo today..they are tightening protocols back up. Just 1 visitor per patient, per day...AGAIN, goes for Hospice visitors also.


They've also had to expand the COVID rooms to 2 floors now, and are making another floor into COVID ICU.

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Reply #96 posted 07/27/21 4:10pm

Strive

Oh no, the power hungry morons - not following any rhyme or reason - are trying to invoke their security theater again. What to do?

Oh I know finger

I feel bad for those that have to die alone because they were foolish enough to visit a hospital instead of dying at their home. If you leave your loved one at a hospital or are a worker that enforces these inane guidelines, you are a literal monster.

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[Edited 7/27/21 16:11pm]

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Reply #97 posted 07/27/21 4:23pm

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Prince just pinched my butt from the afterworld, he said get vaccinated or Jehovah about to get mass angry. Big J gotta gatt folks. Plenty a bullets.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #98 posted 07/27/21 4:24pm

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I just found this article below (from 2018) and it made me think. A lot. In the space of the winter 2018 season alone, the flu had caused 50,100 excess deaths in the UK. We've had 129,000 deaths in about 2 years with Covid and look what's happened.

So much has changed in terms of views and what has become acceptable. Scary to think most of our freedom has now been taken from us and the majority is not even batting an eyelid (whatever happened to the 'my body, my choice' slogan). We used to have choices and now we don't. And please don't tell me Covid is worse than the flu. I had the flu once and I struggled to breathe for a month. The first and only time I ever had asthma in my whole life in fact.

'Economists said the figures show the “grim reality” of the flu outbreak, and are particularly concerning as the ONS revealed earlier in 2018 that decades of improvements in life expectancy “ground to a halt” this year.

“This follows some other recent winters when seasonal deaths have been high,” said Dr Veena Raleigh, senior fellow at the King’s Fund. “With an ageing population, the worry is that this could be the start of a trend of periodically high winter deaths.”

“The evidence suggests that stalling life expectancy is due to several factors, including flu-related deaths and a slowdown in improvements in mortality from diseases such as heart attack and stroke.

“National agencies have so far been slow to respond to these disturbing recent trends. Public Health England has been commissioned to investigate the slowdown in life expectancy and it is imperative that their findings are acted upon.” ' https://www.independent.c...60496.html


20181130-uk-winter-deaths-indy.png?width=640&auto=webp&quality=75

[Edited 7/27/21 16:43pm]

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Reply #99 posted 07/27/21 4:55pm

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jjhunsecker said:

If a woman chooses to have an abortion, that’s her business. That choice does not affect me or my family in any way. However, if someone with Covid comes into my orbit, and passes the virus onto me, and I possibly get infected and pass it on to my family and loved ones , that DOES affect more than just the person who chose not to be vaccinated or even wear masks


If the shot doesn't protect you from getting the virus then why did you take it and why do you think others should be forced to?

ALL authoritarians are fascists, ALL fascists are evil.
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Reply #100 posted 07/27/21 5:02pm

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Strive said:

Oh and speaking of the Foo Fighters.

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"Despite having made every effort to follow CDC Covid protocols and local laws, there has been a confirmed Covid-19 case within the Foo Fighters organization,” the Foo Fighters explained on Twitter. “Out of an abundance of caution and concern for the safety of the band, crew and most of all the fans, Saturday’s show at the Los Angeles Forum is being postponed to a later date. The new date will be announced shortly. Tickets for the July 17th date will be honored for the new date.”

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What? How can you still catch covid if you are vaccinated and follow all CDC Covid protocols? Must be those shifty unvaccinated people shake Why can't we just put them in camps sad


I know, right? They're in danger because we haven't had the shot? That doesn't even make sense.

ALL authoritarians are fascists, ALL fascists are evil.
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Reply #101 posted 07/27/21 5:04pm

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The vaccine is like a kevlar vest.

In the real world nothing is absolutely bulletproof. The Kevlar made bulletproof vests are actually bullet resistant and graded to a specific level of protection according to the international standards for ballistic resistance, one of the most used is NIJ 0101.04. The reality is that bullet resistant vests don’t protect the wearer from every single threat existing, instead they are designed to withstand specific calibers and types of bullets. And for stab protection you’d need a completely different type of body armor with very specific ballistic systems. Wearing a bulletproof vest does not turn you into Superman.


Unlike bullets viruses mutate. The more rapidly it can reproduce and spread the faster it can mutate creating a different more powerful caliber of virus.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #102 posted 07/27/21 5:59pm

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Strive said:

Oh no, the power hungry morons - not following any rhyme or reason - are trying to invoke their security theater again. What to do?

Oh I know finger

I feel bad for those that have to die alone because they were foolish enough to visit a hospital instead of dying at their home. If you leave your loved one at a hospital or are a worker that enforces these inane guidelines, you are a literal monster.

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[Edited 7/27/21 16:11pm]

OMG, you have really, lost it.


Like most of your ilk, there is no compassion for anyone. I pity you and your family.


You have lost your mind.


Has your catholic church taught you anything?

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Reply #103 posted 07/27/21 6:01pm

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Glad your country has only had 129K deaths due to Covid. We've had 611+K here in the US


What freedom have you lost?

CherryMoon57 said:

I just found this article below (from 2018) and it made me think. A lot. In the space of the winter 2018 season alone, the flu had caused 50,100 excess deaths in the UK. We've had 129,000 deaths in about 2 years with Covid and look what's happened.

So much has changed in terms of views and what has become acceptable. Scary to think most of our freedom has now been taken from us and the majority is not even batting an eyelid (whatever happened to the 'my body, my choice' slogan). We used to have choices and now we don't. And please don't tell me Covid is worse than the flu. I had the flu once and I struggled to breathe for a month. The first and only time I ever had asthma in my whole life in fact.

'Economists said the figures show the “grim reality” of the flu outbreak, and are particularly concerning as the ONS revealed earlier in 2018 that decades of improvements in life expectancy “ground to a halt” this year.

“This follows some other recent winters when seasonal deaths have been high,” said Dr Veena Raleigh, senior fellow at the King’s Fund. “With an ageing population, the worry is that this could be the start of a trend of periodically high winter deaths.”

“The evidence suggests that stalling life expectancy is due to several factors, including flu-related deaths and a slowdown in improvements in mortality from diseases such as heart attack and stroke.

“National agencies have so far been slow to respond to these disturbing recent trends. Public Health England has been commissioned to investigate the slowdown in life expectancy and it is imperative that their findings are acted upon.” ' https://www.independent.c...60496.html


20181130-uk-winter-deaths-indy.png?width=640&auto=webp&quality=75

[Edited 7/27/21 16:43pm]

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Reply #104 posted 07/27/21 6:09pm

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djThunderfunk said:

jjhunsecker said:

If a woman chooses to have an abortion, that’s her business. That choice does not affect me or my family in any way. However, if someone with Covid comes into my orbit, and passes the virus onto me, and I possibly get infected and pass it on to my family and loved ones , that DOES affect more than just the person who chose not to be vaccinated or even wear masks


If the shot doesn't protect you from getting the virus then why did you take it and why do you think others should be forced to?

Because it does protect you from going to the hospital, being placed on a vent, and losing your life.


With the vaccine your symptoms are much less worse and more than likely won't even end up in the hospital and it can be managed at home.


This has been stated over and over again, here on this forum. YOU know this. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again?


Nobody here ever said if you get the vax you won't get covid. We've been saying the ^above over and over again.


Personally I don't care if you or Strive do not get the vax, it's all on you and your choice.
Just make sure you all have your house in order, so you don't leave a mess for your families.

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Reply #105 posted 07/27/21 8:39pm

IanRG

CherryMoon57 said:

I just found this article below (from 2018) and it made me think. A lot. In the space of the winter 2018 season alone, the flu had caused 50,100 excess deaths in the UK. We've had 129,000 deaths in about 2 years with Covid and look what's happened.

So much has changed in terms of views and what has become acceptable. Scary to think most of our freedom has now been taken from us and the majority is not even batting an eyelid (whatever happened to the 'my body, my choice' slogan). We used to have choices and now we don't. And please don't tell me Covid is worse than the flu. I had the flu once and I struggled to breathe for a month. The first and only time I ever had asthma in my whole life in fact.

'Economists said the figures show the “grim reality” of the flu outbreak, and are particularly concerning as the ONS revealed earlier in 2018 that decades of improvements in life expectancy “ground to a halt” this year.

“This follows some other recent winters when seasonal deaths have been high,” said Dr Veena Raleigh, senior fellow at the King’s Fund. “With an ageing population, the worry is that this could be the start of a trend of periodically high winter deaths.”

“The evidence suggests that stalling life expectancy is due to several factors, including flu-related deaths and a slowdown in improvements in mortality from diseases such as heart attack and stroke.

“National agencies have so far been slow to respond to these disturbing recent trends. Public Health England has been commissioned to investigate the slowdown in life expectancy and it is imperative that their findings are acted upon.” ' https://www.independent.c...60496.html


20181130-uk-winter-deaths-indy.png?width=640&auto=webp&quality=75

[Edited 7/27/21 16:43pm]

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The difference between a normal cold and flu season with little or no processes to stop the spread (short of the annual flu shot some may have) and the end results after all the processes to manage a pandemic needs to be considered. If we managed the outbreak just like the annual flu season, the deaths would likely have been very significantly higher.

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Reply #106 posted 07/27/21 8:41pm

Strive

If you put a covid patient on a vent, you are basically murdering them. It's not a respiratory disease, it's a blood vessel disease.

You think you could look at the numbers of 70% of patients dying when they are placed on one but that would require critical thinking.

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Reply #107 posted 07/27/21 8:42pm

IanRG

PennyPurple said:

djThunderfunk said:


If the shot doesn't protect you from getting the virus then why did you take it and why do you think others should be forced to?

Because it does protect you from going to the hospital, being placed on a vent, and losing your life.


With the vaccine your symptoms are much less worse and more than likely won't even end up in the hospital and it can be managed at home.


This has been stated over and over again, here on this forum. YOU know this. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again?


Nobody here ever said if you get the vax you won't get covid. We've been saying the ^above over and over again.


Personally I don't care if you or Strive do not get the vax, it's all on you and your choice.
Just make sure you all have your house in order, so you don't leave a mess for your families.

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Agreed - The vaccines are like many other vaccines - they make it much less likely that you will get the disease but, if you do, they can significantly reduce its impact.

[Edited 7/27/21 20:42pm]

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Reply #108 posted 07/27/21 8:43pm

IanRG

Strive said:

If you put a covid patient on a vent, you are basically murdering them. It's not a respiratory disease, it's a blood vessel disease.

You think you could look at the numbers of 70% of patients dying when they are placed on one but that would require critical thinking.

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Bullshit

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Reply #109 posted 07/27/21 8:56pm

Strive

Sorry, it was 76.4% kill rate for people 18-to-65 and 97.2% kill rate for older than 65 people. It's ok. I'm sure it will get quickly swept under the rug like Cuomo forcing nursing homes to take covid patients. Sure who knows how many were killed out of incompetence but the real killers are people that don't wanna wear a cloth mask or recieve a jank vaccine. lol


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184

Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively. Mortality rates for those in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups who did not receive mechanical ventilation were 1.98% and 26.6%, respectively.

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Reply #110 posted 07/27/21 9:18pm

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PennyPurple said:

djThunderfunk said:


If the shot doesn't protect you from getting the virus then why did you take it and why do you think others should be forced to?

Because it does protect you from going to the hospital, being placed on a vent, and losing your life.


With the vaccine your symptoms are much less worse and more than likely won't even end up in the hospital and it can be managed at home.


This has been stated over and over again, here on this forum. YOU know this. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again?


Nobody here ever said if you get the vax you won't get covid. We've been saying the ^above over and over again.


Personally I don't care if you or Strive do not get the vax, it's all on you and your choice.
Just make sure you all have your house in order, so you don't leave a mess for your families.

Thanks for answering....

Some people I simply don't have the stomach to deal with

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Reply #111 posted 07/27/21 9:20pm

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PennyPurple said:

Strive said:

Oh no, the power hungry morons - not following any rhyme or reason - are trying to invoke their security theater again. What to do?

Oh I know finger

I feel bad for those that have to die alone because they were foolish enough to visit a hospital instead of dying at their home. If you leave your loved one at a hospital or are a worker that enforces these inane guidelines, you are a literal monster.

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OMG, you have really, lost it.


Like most of your ilk, there is no compassion for anyone. I pity you and your family.


You have lost your mind.


Has your catholic church taught you anything?

And this is a so-called "Christian"....one who calls other people "evil" and "instruments of the devil" and other such nonsense

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Reply #112 posted 07/27/21 9:22pm

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IanRG said:

PennyPurple said:

Because it does protect you from going to the hospital, being placed on a vent, and losing your life.


With the vaccine your symptoms are much less worse and more than likely won't even end up in the hospital and it can be managed at home.


This has been stated over and over again, here on this forum. YOU know this. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again?


Nobody here ever said if you get the vax you won't get covid. We've been saying the ^above over and over again.


Personally I don't care if you or Strive do not get the vax, it's all on you and your choice.
Just make sure you all have your house in order, so you don't leave a mess for your families.

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Agreed - The vaccines are like many other vaccines - they make it much less likely that you will get the disease but, if you do, they can significantly reduce its impact.

[Edited 7/27/21 20:42pm]

Either they are ignorant of the science or deliberately presenting false information in furtherance of their political agendas

Idiots or Liars, basically

[Edited 7/27/21 21:31pm]

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Reply #113 posted 07/27/21 9:27pm

IanRG

Strive said:

Sorry, it was 76.4% kill rate for people 18-to-65 and 97.2% kill rate for older than 65 people. It's ok. I'm sure it will get quickly swept under the rug like Cuomo forcing nursing homes to take covid patients. Sure who knows how many were killed out of incompetence but the real killers are people that don't wanna wear a cloth mask or recieve a jank vaccine. lol


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184

Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively. Mortality rates for those in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups who did not receive mechanical ventilation were 1.98% and 26.6%, respectively.

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Bullshit - The study does NOT say being put on a ventilator killed them. This is a silly as saying people are killed by dialysis machines because many more people die from kidney related issues if they have ever been on dialysis than people who have never been on dialysis.

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You are more likely to die if your symptoms are so bad you need a ventilator than if your symptoms are not so bad that you don't need a ventilator.

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The simplest ways to seek to not get so bad so you don't need a ventilator is to wear a mask and get vaccinated. The more people do this, the more likely fewer people will catch Covid and if you do get covid, you will have a much better chance of not getting life threatening symptoms.

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Reply #114 posted 07/28/21 1:20am

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IanRG said:

The difference between a normal cold and flu season with little or no processes to stop the spread (short of the annual flu shot some may have) and the end results after all the processes to manage a pandemic needs to be considered. If we managed the outbreak just like the annual flu season, the deaths would likely have been very significantly higher.


Bla-di-bla-di-bla Bullshit. Again.

There are over 40 studies now that claim that the NPI did not have any effect.
Look at page 38 of this study
No correlation between stringency index and deaths. None.

If you'd be open for it and 'willing to do the work', you could easily find out for yourself.

Just take any graph of the progress of infections starting in feb 2020 to now, remove the labels on th x-axis and try to point out when restrictions have become (in)active.

You will not see any significant disruption in the progress of the graphs.

There is one significant factor though and that's the relative humidity.
It seems like the lipid envelope of the virus doesn't like a moist environment (and UV exposure)
That's one of the reasons why you see the largest outbreaks in the winter on the northern hemisphere.
Dry winter air, little sunlight exposure.

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Reply #115 posted 07/28/21 1:26am

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PennyPurple said:

Glad your country has only had 129K deaths due to Covid. We've had 611+K here in the US

UK Population: 66.6 Million -> death rate: 0.193% (0.129 / 66.6)
US Population: 328.2 Million -> death rate: 0.186% (0.611 / 328.2)


What freedom have you lost?

To go wherever I want, when I want, with whom I want WITHOUT being monitored for 'my health' every single fucking time.

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Reply #116 posted 07/28/21 1:34am

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IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:

Bullshit. It has nothing to do with political bias.

There is a difference between IFR and CFR.

What you calculate is the CFR and that currently is 0.78% for the US
The IFR is much lower and lies somewhere between 0.2% - 0.15% (as per John Ioannidis' paper)

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No, what is funny is that you keep on making the same basic mathematical error and side with Strive when he made his with the lie that it is others who deaf and blind to facts.

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If the CFR for the USA was only 0.78% for Covid 19, then this means with 627,230 deaths from covid 19 so far, that the USA has had more than 80 million confirmed cases, not 35 million.

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If you are referring to the figures since Feb 2021, then the 172,489 deaths since then would mean that there has been 22 million confirmed cases since February this year, not 8,339,725.

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And it gets worse: If the IFR is 0.15%, this means that out of a total population of 333 million, 418 million of these people have had Covid 19. It is basic maths 627,230 is 0.15% of 418,153,333.

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You need to check your figures against reality, not the political line you have been pushing here since the methods to manage a pandemic inconvenienced you.


As per 27 july, the 7 day rolling average CFR for the US is up to 0.94%
www.ourworldindata.org

Go educate yourself.

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Reply #117 posted 07/28/21 1:45am

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jjhunsecker said:

Strive said:

Oh and speaking of the Foo Fighters.

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"Despite having made every effort to follow CDC Covid protocols and local laws, there has been a confirmed Covid-19 case within the Foo Fighters organization,” the Foo Fighters explained on Twitter. “Out of an abundance of caution and concern for the safety of the band, crew and most of all the fans, Saturday’s show at the Los Angeles Forum is being postponed to a later date. The new date will be announced shortly. Tickets for the July 17th date will be honored for the new date.”

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What? How can you still catch covid if you are vaccinated and follow all CDC Covid protocols? Must be those shifty unvaccinated people shake Why can't we just put them in camps sad

That shows HOW infective it could be...

But again, if you choose not to mask or take the vaccine, that's all on you...If you die, you die shrug


I guess it's an error in definition.

It's well known that you can get infected with the virus (SARS-CoV-2) even when you're vaccinated (a vaccination should prevent you from getting [seriously] ill, it doesn't protect you from inhaling air with virus loaded aerosoles)

When you get ill, the illness is called CoVID-19 (Corona Virus Infection Disease [1st discovered in] 2019)

If you test positive,it does not mean that you suffer from Covid-19. It only tells you that (remains of) the virus is found in your sample.

A positive test says neither about your infectiousness nor about you actually having Covid-19.
It's a quantitative analysis, not a clinical analysis.


So what I suspect is that somebody of the Foo Fighters organization has been tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 but has not developed Covid-19.

And then again, you have to make sure, by re-testing 2 or 3 more times, if it wasn't a false positive (as has happened with a couple of Olympic athletes recently)

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Reply #118 posted 07/28/21 1:51am

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:

The difference between a normal cold and flu season with little or no processes to stop the spread (short of the annual flu shot some may have) and the end results after all the processes to manage a pandemic needs to be considered. If we managed the outbreak just like the annual flu season, the deaths would likely have been very significantly higher.


Bla-di-bla-di-bla Bullshit. Again.

There are over 40 studies now that claim that the NPI did not have any effect.
Look at page 38 of this study
No correlation between stringency index and deaths. None.

If you'd be open for it and 'willing to do the work', you could easily find out for yourself.

Just take any graph of the progress of infections starting in feb 2020 to now, remove the labels on th x-axis and try to point out when restrictions have become (in)active.

You will not see any significant disruption in the progress of the graphs.

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I have already seen the graphs that show this is your imagination and that you are not interested in doing any work but seeking to find anything, no matter how unbelievable to support your political agenda and bias- just as you allow yourself to ignore the failings of basic maths with your other link - The USA has not had 85 million more people have Covid 19 that its total population.

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I have already seen this paper - and it is too soon, too inconclusive, is only a working paper and it only argues for the need for more work, nothing more.

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I have already addressed the turning point when you made your astrological claims by arguing against reality that the flu season follows after the winter solstice. The turning point in the effectiveness of the combating covid is shown both in how the first peak was reversed prior to your imagined post solitice peak and in how these processes prevented the Australian 2020 flu season despite the claim made on page 40. The average flu season in Australia has a slow increase from low at the end of Jan through to the beginning of May. It has a geometric increase from May to mid August, plateaus then rapidly falls Sept to Oct and has a slow decline to end of Jan. The Covid management processes meant the peak of the 2020 flu seaon was March 2020. From then the flu season NEVER had the May to Aug acceleration and spent most of October, Nov and Dec below the average of the end of Jan low. It aligns perfectly with the introduction of the processes to reduce the impact of the pandemic.

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Facts beat spin

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jjhunsecker said:

PennyPurple said:

Because it does protect you from going to the hospital, being placed on a vent, and losing your life.

When you're over 60 and have one or more co-morbidities.
For the <50 yr olds, vaccination is useless. (cost / benefit)


With the vaccine your symptoms are much less worse and more than likely won't even end up in the hospital and it can be managed at home.

It's not by definition that if you actually develop Covid-19 you will end up in the hospital. Even when you're not vaccinated. Only a small part of the infected people ended up in hospital and a small portion of those ended up in ICU.


This has been stated over and over again, here on this forum. YOU know this. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again?


Nobody here ever said if you get the vax you won't get covid. We've been saying the ^above over and over again.

Well....
You shouldn't get Covid (the disease). But you still can catch the virus (SARS-CoV-2).


Personally I don't care if you or Strive do not get the vax, it's all on you and your choice.
Just make sure you all have your house in order, so you don't leave a mess for your families.

Thanks for answering....

Some people I simply don't have the stomach to deal with

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A lot of people still mix up the definitions.

The virus is called SARS-CoV-2
If you catch that you can get ill. That disease is called Covid-19.

Vaccination cannot protect you from catching the virus, but it should protect you from a) becoming [highly] infectious and b) developing Covid-19, at least in such way you don't end up in hospital.

The man of science has learned to believe in justification, not by faith, but by verification - Thomas Henry Huxley
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