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Thread started 05/15/21 4:23pm

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Video from the 60s showing rich blacks in LA not wanting poor blacks from south coming to live there.

Not about class eh? This is Revolution podcast hipped me to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/w...BUD70Lpydo

They call blacks from the south carpet baggers. This is classism. They worry poor blacks will hurt their good thing. This video is from Jim Crow era. There is racism, but class is part of the story.

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Reply #1 posted 05/15/21 7:11pm

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thx 4 sharing

I guess folks just worried they might lose their high standard of living

I've dated outside of my race and I discovered that Good Pussy is Good Pussy and Good Booty is Good Booty regardless of ethnicity...I don't have a Fetish for only Big White Tits, Big White Butts or Phat White Pussy.(chancellor) smile wise man !
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Reply #2 posted 05/16/21 11:56am

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Note who is ducking this thread. Bubble class.

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Reply #3 posted 05/16/21 3:00pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

Note who is ducking this thread. Bubble class.

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It was simply not worth responding to. There are only so many threads to push an extremist agenda before it becomes pointless to engage with a person who never engages back.

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But now that you are trying to use people ignoring this youtube as if it proves you right:

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This is just another youtube of people from a richer area concerned about an influx of poorer people into their area. This is nothing new or noteworthy. It happens all the time, just like same fear when people from a different race move into a local area.

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You are falsely trying to use this to claim that racism is classism simply because the richer people are the same race as the poorer people. This is just another part of your ongoing intentional ignorance in regard to racism.

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Does the youtube ask if the people being interviewed had experienced racism as Black people living in a richer area? No. Is it reasonable to suspect that the answer would be a resounding yes? Absolutely.

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Does it ask them if one of their fears could be that, with an influx of poorer Black people, they themselves may suffer from more racism from local white community?

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Reply #4 posted 05/16/21 3:25pm

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IanRG said:



2freaky4church1 said:


Note who is ducking this thread. Bubble class.



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It was simply not worth responding to. There are only so many threads to push an extremist agenda before it becomes pointless to engage with a person who never engages back.


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But now that you are trying to use people ignoring this youtube as if it proves you right:


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This is just another youtube of people from a richer area concerned about an influx of poorer people into their area. This is nothing new or noteworthy. It happens all the time, just like same fear when people from a different race move into a local area.


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You are falsely trying to use this to claim that racism is classism simply because the richer people are the same race as the poorer people. This is just another part of your ongoing intentional ignorance in regard to racism.


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Does the youtube ask if the people being interviewed had experienced racism as Black people living in a richer area? No. Is it reasonable to suspect that the answer would be a resounding yes? Absolutely.


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Does it ask them if one of their fears could be that, with an influx of poorer Black people, they themselves may suffer from more racism from local white community?



Also, and I think it’s fair to say, that nobody (especially here) has ever claimed that “classism” does not exist WITHIN the Black community (or any other minority or marginalized communities)

The issue most of us are stating is that class- meaning wealth, education, profession, personal bearing— does NOT PROTECT Black people from being treated in a racist manner
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Reply #5 posted 05/16/21 3:49pm

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No, it kinda does. You can percieve something as racist.

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Reply #6 posted 05/16/21 3:55pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

No, it kinda does. You can percieve something as racist.



How would YOU know?
Especially since you just stated in another thread that you didn’t care about middle and upper class Black people being treated in a racist manner
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Reply #7 posted 05/16/21 4:01pm

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You familiar with the Talented Tenth?

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Reply #8 posted 05/16/21 4:26pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

No, it kinda does. You can percieve something as racist.



And note what he is doing here- he’s saying that racist actions or behavior might just be a “perception “.
So those who think that they have been treated in a racist manner- you might just be imagining it.
What a very dismissive line of thinking. And extremely condescending... It’s like “I alone know what is really racist. You people must be confused “.

Again, this is a gaslighting technique, often used by those on the Right, and now apparently adopted by certain individuals on the lunatic Left
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/21 9:39pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Not about class eh? This is Revolution podcast hipped me to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/w...BUD70Lpydo

They call blacks from the south carpet baggers. This is classism. They worry poor blacks will hurt their good thing. This video is from Jim Crow era. There is racism, but class is part of the story.

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I will get back to you after watching the video. Lets hope this thread does not get locked OR erased until then.

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Reply #10 posted 05/16/21 10:08pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Not about class eh? This is Revolution podcast hipped me to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/w...BUD70Lpydo

They call blacks from the south carpet baggers. This is classism. They worry poor blacks will hurt their good thing. This video is from Jim Crow era. There is racism, but class is part of the story.

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OK, now that I've seen the video, here are my valid points to you and all orgers.....

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1. Every one of those people in THAT video are ....boule! And all of them are part of the Talented Tenth that W.E.B. DuBois, day one original member of Sigma Pi Phi [AKA The Boule], was promoting as his choices of heroes for all black folks in the USA. Keep in mind that Sigma Pi Phi is the father of all black fraternities & sororities that exist on all HBCU campuses today, not to mention that Sigma Pi Phi is also the black version of Skulls & Bones [but that is another thread for another day!].

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Like I've been saying so many times now, classism is the #1 problem in the USA right now. And the people within the 1% [The Corporate Establishment, The Blue-Bloodline Family Dynasties, The Billionaire Boys & Girls Club, The Wolves Of Wall Streets, & The Boule] will stop at NOTHING to maintain the status quo. They do not give a damn about any of us within the 99%. And as long as we continue to allow ourselves to be distracted by divisions/factors among ourselves, the 1% wins.

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Reply #11 posted 05/17/21 6:09am

uPtoWnNY

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The issue most of us are stating is that class- meaning wealth, education, profession, personal bearing— does NOT PROTECT Black people from being treated in a racist manner

Of course, but some mfers will always believe what they want to believe. I'm talking from experience.

Being college-educated, middle-class hasn't protected me from getting my share of "N***** Wake-Up Calls".

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Reply #12 posted 05/17/21 10:49am

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jj is being esoteric. Facts, I need facts.

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Reply #13 posted 05/17/21 11:13am

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2freaky4church1 said:

jj is being esoteric. Facts, I need facts.



I’m talking about my experiences and that of people I know or of others who have related it . Right above your post Uptown has related his experiences.

Why don’t you try this: Go out and actually SPEAK with and INTERACT with Black people, of all backgrounds, and yes, all classes, and ASK them about their experiences. For once, don’t condescend and think that you know more about their lives and experiences than they do.

And rely on information outside of your bubble of Black commies that seem to offer you confirmation bias of what you already believe

Free your mind... and your ass will follow
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Reply #14 posted 05/17/21 11:20am

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uPtoWnNY said:



jjhunsecker said:


The issue most of us are stating is that class- meaning wealth, education, profession, personal bearing— does NOT PROTECT Black people from being treated in a racist manner


Of course, but some mfers will always believe what they want to believe. I'm talking from experience.



Being college-educated, middle-class hasn't protected me from getting my share of "N***** Wake-Up Calls".



Very true. We’ve lived this
But some want to tell us that we might have just “misperceived” most of this
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Reply #15 posted 05/17/21 11:32am

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Don't want my mind that free. lol

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Reply #16 posted 05/17/21 12:10pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

jj is being esoteric. Facts, I need facts.

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No you don't. You only want things like this youtube that you can miss use to push an ideological agenda.

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Reply #17 posted 05/17/21 12:14pm

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That video speaks for itself.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #18 posted 05/17/21 12:17pm

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This young lady has it right:

https://www.youtube.com/w...eHqZT-NsxE

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Reply #19 posted 05/17/21 12:38pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

That video speaks for itself.

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So the views of a handful of people hand picked for an TV interview because they had the same agenda of opposing an increase in the number of Black people in LA speaks for itself just because you can misuse it push your ideological agenda.

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But the facts that show racial discrimination against all Black people in the USA regardless of class and the facts in the personal experiences of people relayed directly you somehow does not speak for itself?

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Did you ever consider why the TV show wanted to have Black people on screen opposing an increase of Black people in LA? Hint: Consider that the TV show was not arguing against the increase in numbers of poor people from other races coming into the city.

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When the facts are inconvenient to your political ideological agenda, the proper response is to review your agenda, not just seek another youtube that can be spun to make you feel good.

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Reply #20 posted 05/17/21 12:41pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

This young lady has it right:

https://www.youtube.com/w...eHqZT-NsxE

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I am not going to watch this. This is just a standard tactic - Dont address what is said to you. When it is obvious few are buying your spin, deflect to another youtube or article.

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Reply #21 posted 05/17/21 12:48pm

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jjhunsecker said:

IanRG said:



2freaky4church1 said:


Note who is ducking this thread. Bubble class.



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It was simply not worth responding to. There are only so many threads to push an extremist agenda before it becomes pointless to engage with a person who never engages back.


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But now that you are trying to use people ignoring this youtube as if it proves you right:


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This is just another youtube of people from a richer area concerned about an influx of poorer people into their area. This is nothing new or noteworthy. It happens all the time, just like same fear when people from a different race move into a local area.


.


You are falsely trying to use this to claim that racism is classism simply because the richer people are the same race as the poorer people. This is just another part of your ongoing intentional ignorance in regard to racism.


.


Does the youtube ask if the people being interviewed had experienced racism as Black people living in a richer area? No. Is it reasonable to suspect that the answer would be a resounding yes? Absolutely.


.


Does it ask them if one of their fears could be that, with an influx of poorer Black people, they themselves may suffer from more racism from local white community?



Also, and I think it’s fair to say, that nobody (especially here) has ever claimed that “classism” does not exist WITHIN the Black community (or any other minority or marginalized communities)

The issue most of us are stating is that class- meaning wealth, education, profession, personal bearing— does NOT PROTECT Black people from being treated in a racist manner

He’s playing the GOP game- pit certain racial or class groups against one another.
He’s jealous of Blacks who are not on the poverty level.

See I think the problem with 2freak is that he speaks out 2 sides of his mouth. He claims he posts material from Black Scholars, who are by the way, from middle to upper class, so if he claims he only cares about those who are poor, then why is he claiming to post material from Black scholars, whereas many of them are not poor?

2 freak is full of shit, like a barrel full of cow manure. He hates that you and I call him out on his bs. He is obsessed with Black Americans and don’t take too kindly of those who are not living in poverty. I suspect some inner jealousy, and his lack of power to control the mindset of Black Americans. He has a very, strange, and stereotyped view of the Black community and it triggers and angers him, when anyone calls him out on his bs.

What he does is find vids/news articles, etc., of Black Americans with different political views, then uses those vids as a weapon, to try and cause tension between Blacks. A tactic used by racists for many years to keep division/mistrust within groups of the same racial identity. Too bad he’s failing with that bs here.

Have you noticed how he never talks about how the Republican Party uses poor, rural Whites?
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Reply #22 posted 05/17/21 1:06pm

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



Also, and I think it’s fair to say, that nobody (especially here) has ever claimed that “classism” does not exist WITHIN the Black community (or any other minority or marginalized communities)

The issue most of us are stating is that class- meaning wealth, education, profession, personal bearing— does NOT PROTECT Black people from being treated in a racist manner

He’s playing the GOP game- pit certain racial or class groups against one another.
He’s jealous of Blacks who are not on the poverty level.

See I think the problem with 2freak is that he speaks out 2 sides of his mouth. He claims he posts material from Black Scholars, who are by the way, from middle to upper class, so if he claims he only cares about those who are poor, then why is he claiming to post material from Black scholars, whereas many of them are not poor?

2 freak is full of shit, like a barrel full of cow manure. He hates that you and I call him out on his bs. He is obsessed with Black Americans and don’t take too kindly of those who are not living in poverty. I suspect some inner jealousy, and his lack of power to control the mindset of Black Americans. He has a very, strange, and stereotyped view of the Black community and it triggers and angers him, when anyone calls him out in his bs.

What he does is find vids/news articles, etc., of Black Americans with different political views, then uses those bids as a weapon, to try and cause tension between Blacks. A tactic used by racists for many years to keep division/mistrust within groups of the same racial identity. Too bad he’s failing with that bs here.

Have you noticed how he never talks about how the Republican Party uses poor, rural Whites?
[Edited 5/17/21 12:54pm]



I think you’re on to something here
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Reply #23 posted 05/17/21 1:09pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Don't want my mind that free. lol



Right there is the problem... You don’t want to free your mind to be open to different ideas and experiences

You’re in your little box, and frankly you’re a lost cause
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Reply #24 posted 05/18/21 12:00pm

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Sad. Imagine if whites said I don't want poor blacks in my neighborhood. There is also a problem with light skin/dark skin. There is light skin priviledge. I'm poor as shit. lol

Documentary Dark Girls:

https://www.youtube.com/w...OjgTIN9pTE

Clean bleaching is huge in Africa. Very sad, such beautiful women. The world is more complex people.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #25 posted 05/18/21 1:15pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Sad. Imagine if whites said I don't want poor blacks in my neighborhood. There is also a problem with light skin/dark skin. There is light skin priviledge. I'm poor as shit. lol



Documentary Dark Girls:



https://www.youtube.com/w...OjgTIN9pTE



Clean bleaching is huge in Africa. Very sad, such beautiful women. The world is more complex people.


Did you say imagine? Oh it won’t because they’re poor, it will be because of their race. Shall we post thousands of those real, life stories to debunk your bs?

Shall we talk about the Blondes vs Brunette, in the White community?

Can we post how a poor, White family wouldn’t be welcomed in an upper-class White community?

Shall we talk about ‘tanning’ and ‘spray tans’ in the White community?

Shall we go there too? You see how ridiculous you sound? What else you got? What will it take for you to get over your obsession and hatred of the Black community? You’re making quite a reputation for yourself here Tucker, with all that hatred and obsession with the Black community. Are your Black friends aware of this ingrained jealousy/hatred you hold? How about your Black co-workers and employer? If not, they probably need to know.

Are you going to call this woman in the article a liar, and say this wasn’t about race?

https://www.today.com/hom...=algorithm
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Reply #26 posted 05/18/21 1:21pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Sad. Imagine if whites said I don't want poor blacks in my neighborhood. There is also a problem with light skin/dark skin. There is light skin priviledge. I'm poor as shit. lol



Documentary Dark Girls:



https://www.youtube.com/w...OjgTIN9pTE



Clean bleaching is huge in Africa. Very sad, such beautiful women. The world is more complex people.



They (meaning many White people) say they don’t want ANY Blacks moving into their neighborhoods! Don’t you know anything about the history of residential segregation- which is really not history because it continues to this day. The Trump family were sued for not renting property to minorities- even those who met every standard as White applicants. When I was younger, Black people moving into White neighborhoods- in “liberal “ New York- often had their homes firebombed or vandalized.

I really wonder what type of education you received. It seems to have been lacking, especially in the development of critical thinking and rationality
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Reply #27 posted 05/18/21 1:33pm

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Sad. Imagine if whites said I don't want poor blacks in my neighborhood. There is also a problem with light skin/dark skin. There is light skin priviledge. I'm poor as shit. lol



Documentary Dark Girls:



https://www.youtube.com/w...OjgTIN9pTE



Clean bleaching is huge in Africa. Very sad, such beautiful women. The world is more complex people.


Did you say imagine? Oh it won’t because they’re poor, it will be because of their race. Shall we post thousands of those real, life stories to debunk your bs?

Shall we talk about the Blondes vs Brunette, in the White community?

Can we post how a poor, White family wouldn’t be welcomed in an upper-class White community?

Shall we talk about ‘tanning’ and ‘spray tans’ in the White community?

Shall we go there too? What else you got? What will it take for you to get over your obsession and hatred of the Black community? You’re making quite a reputation for yourself here Tucker, with all that hatred and obsession with the Black community. Are your Black friends aware of this ingrained jealousy/hatred you hold? How about your Black co-workers and employer? If not, they probably need to know.


This guy needs Addersll ...
He’s just all over the place, spewing out all sorts of non-sequiters, all sorts of foolishness
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Reply #28 posted 05/18/21 1:40pm

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jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:


Did you say imagine? Oh it won’t because they’re poor, it will be because of their race. Shall we post thousands of those real, life stories to debunk your bs?

Shall we talk about the Blondes vs Brunette, in the White community?

Can we post how a poor, White family wouldn’t be welcomed in an upper-class White community?

Shall we talk about ‘tanning’ and ‘spray tans’ in the White community?

Shall we go there too? What else you got? What will it take for you to get over your obsession and hatred of the Black community? You’re making quite a reputation for yourself here Tucker, with all that hatred and obsession with the Black community. Are your Black friends aware of this ingrained jealousy/hatred you hold? How about your Black co-workers and employer? If not, they probably need to know.


This guy needs Addersll ...
He’s just all over the place, spewing out all sorts of non-sequiters, all sorts of foolishness

That’s why I replied to his post like that, to let him see how ridiculous he sounds. Smh.
He’s become a typical foxbot and trumper.

I bet he’ll say this situation isn’t about race either:
https://www.today.com/hom...=algorithm
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Reply #29 posted 05/18/21 2:11pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

Sad. Imagine if whites said I don't want poor blacks in my neighborhood. <deleted yet another youtube deflection>

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It is sad that you don't have to imagine it. It has happened and continues to happen all the time.

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And not just against black people, but whenever people of different racial and ethnic origins come into an area that the locals thought of as their ethnic group's area.

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