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SeventeenDayze

Strange Relationship? Proud Boys Leader Married to Black Woman

Pro-Trump Rioter ‘Nicholas Ochs’ is Married to Black Woman

One of the leaders of the Proud Boys, who was among those pro-trump supporters rioting at the US capital this week, is hoping to avoid jail time, by telling people that he’s not a racist insurgent – because he’s married to a Black woman.

Federal authorities issued an arrest warrant Thursday for a Proud Boy leader from Hawaii who was allegedly among rioters who stormed into the U.S.Capitol.

Here is a photo of him and his wife:

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Despite being Black, his wife supports the Proud Boy’s far right ideology, which many say is akin to Naziism. She also supports Donald Trump, the man regarded as one of the most racist presidents in recent history.

The Proud Boys is a far-right, neo-fascist, and male-only political organization that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States and Canada. The group has been called “racist,” as its group members have been accused of targeting Black people and beating them up.

The Proud Boys were out in full force at the Capital Hill riots this week, and one person Nick Ochs, is now begging to stay out of prison. CNN is reporting that Nick, who is a founder of the Proud Boys was at the riots.

Nicholas “Nick” Ochs is wanted on one count of entry into a restricted building or grounds, according to an affidavit written by FBI special agent Roger Dean and signed by U.S. Magistrate Judge Michael Harvey.

Ochs should be arrested based on a photo he posted on his own Twitter feed and footage him on cable news inside the building, Dean wrote. Ochs is “the leader and founder of a Hawaii chapter of the ‘Proud Boys’ organization,” a far right extremist group, and has “PROUD BOY” tattooed on his right forearm, according to the FBI agent.

Ochs could not immediately be reached for comment Friday afternoon using phone numbers and an email address listed in public directories. Ochs ran for a seat in the Hawaii State House of Representatives as a Republican in November, and lost to Democrat Adrian Tam, 63 percent to 29.7 percent.

https://izzso.com/pro-trump-rioter-nicholas-ochs-is-married-to-black-woman/

What do you guys think about this "Strange Relationship" here? I've seen videos of him talking bad about black people but look who he married....

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Reply #1 posted 05/07/21 3:43pm

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So now he’s using his wife to say he’s not racist, yet he’s been caught saying racist slurs against Black people. His wife is nuts for supporting his nonsense. Clowns. Smh.
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/21 3:58pm

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2elijah said:

So now he’s using his wife to say he’s not racist, yet heads been caught saying racist slurs against Black people. His wife us nuts for supporting his nonsense. Clowns. Smh.

Not long after the Capitol riot I saw another story of a different guy who also had a black wife and several children. I guess these guys are doing a "Strom Thurmond" here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgwcoGVYIM

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Reply #3 posted 05/07/21 4:06pm

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I know this is a strange thought but asians, blacks, latinos, whites...we're all human beings that can make our own decisions and come to their own conclusions.

That article couldn't be more bias but maybe that group isn't what you think it is if there's so many people of color as members. Just a thought.

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys, is afro-cuban.

Gavin McInnes, the original founder of the Proud Boys, is married to a Native American activist and has two mixed kids.

At the "riot" there was a number of South Vietnam flags being flown.

By saying you think minorites can only think one way, you are removing their agency.

But that would also imply that you can be wrong and heaven forbid you think that.

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Reply #4 posted 05/07/21 4:12pm

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SeventeenDayze said:



2elijah said:


So now he’s using his wife to say he’s not racist, yet heads been caught saying racist slurs against Black people. His wife us nuts for supporting his nonsense. Clowns. Smh.

Not long after the Capitol riot I saw another story of a different guy who also had a black wife and several children. I guess these guys are doing a "Strom Thurmond" here....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgwcoGVYIM


I mean if they’re caught on vid spewing racist slurs, there’s no question it would raise eyebrows, when they’re married to someone from a racial group, they spew those racist slurs about. I mean how much respect does he really have for his wife by doing that? No excuses. Smh.
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Reply #5 posted 05/07/21 4:16pm

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Strive said:

I know this is a strange thought but asians, blacks, latinos, whites...we're all human beings that can make our own decisions and come to their own conclusions.

That article couldn't be more bias but maybe that group isn't what you think it is if there's so many people of color as members. Just a thought.

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys, is afro-cuban.

Gavin McInnes, the original founder of the Proud Boys, is married to a Native American activist and has two mixed kids.

At the "riot" there was a number of South Vietnam flags being flown.

By saying you think minorites can only think one way, you are removing their agency.

But that would also imply that you can be wrong and heaven forbid you think that.

When did I ever say minorities can only think "one way"??? You are so eager to talk shit that you're making up stuff that was never said. It's amazing how some of you are so quick to turn every damn thread into something that it's not. You say there is "bias" but have nothing to say about the problematic shit this Proud Boy has said. I have even heard him say "Black people suck" but I'm sure you will excuse that and extol the agency of minorities....you know, the ones who echo the racist bullshit.

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Reply #6 posted 05/07/21 4:18pm

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2elijah said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Not long after the Capitol riot I saw another story of a different guy who also had a black wife and several children. I guess these guys are doing a "Strom Thurmond" here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgwcoGVYIM

I mean if they’re caught on vid spewing racist slurs, there’s no question it would raise eyebrows, when they’re married to someone from a racial group, they spew those racist slurs about. I mean how much respect does he really have for his wife by doing that? No excuses. Smh. [Edited 5/7/21 16:12pm]

Makes me wonder if he's the type who has more of a problem with black men than he does with black women....Kind of like stories I hear about Italian-American guys in NY/NJ who are racist but love black women.

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Reply #7 posted 05/07/21 4:29pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

When did I ever say minorities can only think "one way"??? You are so eager to talk shit that you're making up stuff that was never said. It's amazing how some of you are so quick to turn every damn thread into something that it's not. You say there is "bias" but have nothing to say about the problematic shit this Proud Boy has said. I have even heard him say "Black people suck" but I'm sure you will excuse that and extol the agency of minorities....you know, the ones who echo the racist bullshit.

So what were you implying with this thread?

Sorry for assuming that is where you were going with it when there was a number of people on here who compared my marriage with a Vietnamese woman with a slave being in a relationship with their master. Or on Twitter where anybody who deviates from the DNC's talking points are labeled a "coon" by the hivemind.

There's no proud boys on here and you didn't post any video of him talking so bad of black people, so why would I say anything about what that lame group does? Give me a clear example and I'll comment on it.

Until then, I'll continue commenting on what I see and the users I interact with.

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Reply #8 posted 05/07/21 4:39pm

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Strive said:

SeventeenDayze said:

When did I ever say minorities can only think "one way"??? You are so eager to talk shit that you're making up stuff that was never said. It's amazing how some of you are so quick to turn every damn thread into something that it's not. You say there is "bias" but have nothing to say about the problematic shit this Proud Boy has said. I have even heard him say "Black people suck" but I'm sure you will excuse that and extol the agency of minorities....you know, the ones who echo the racist bullshit.

So what were you implying with this thread?

Sorry for assuming that is where you were going with it when there was a number of people on here who compared my marriage with a Vietnamese woman with a slave being in a relationship with their master. Or on Twitter where anybody who deviates from the DNC's talking points are labeled a "coon" by the hivemind.

There's no proud boys on here and you didn't post any video of him talking so bad of black people, so why would I say anything about what that lame group does? Give me a clear example and I'll comment on it.

Until then, I'll continue commenting on what I see and the users I interact with.

So threads must have an implication? Are you one of these so-called Prince fans that only knows about Purple Rain and nothing else? The thread title is in reference to his song and the lyrics. I thought it was pretty obvious given the problematic things done and said by the Proud Boys. And why are you turning into this topic about who you are married to? Nobody brought it up. You did.

https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1307847555666120705

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Reply #9 posted 05/07/21 6:02pm

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Strive said:

So what were you implying with this thread?

Sorry for assuming that is where you were going with it when there was a number of people on here who compared my marriage with a Vietnamese woman with a slave being in a relationship with their master. Or on Twitter where anybody who deviates from the DNC's talking points are labeled a "coon" by the hivemind.

There's no proud boys on here and you didn't post any video of him talking so bad of black people, so why would I say anything about what that lame group does? Give me a clear example and I'll comment on it.

Until then, I'll continue commenting on what I see and the users I interact with.

Hmmmm...question is, why are you taking it so personal, could it be that you are more like the proud boy leader, than you thought? hmmm

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Reply #10 posted 05/07/21 6:51pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

So threads must have an implication? Are you one of these so-called Prince fans that only knows about Purple Rain and nothing else? The thread title is in reference to his song and the lyrics. I thought it was pretty obvious given the problematic things done and said by the Proud Boys. And why are you turning into this topic about who you are married to? Nobody brought it up. You did.

https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1307847555666120705

Usually people post something because they want to discuss it or they want other people's thoughts on it. What type of discussion were you looking to have? What type of thoughts were you wanting to cultivate?

And yes, sweetheart, I know that Strange Relationship is a Prince song. You aren't exactly referencing a deep cut.

That tweet is exactly why I post the way I do. You opened with this guy was "talking bad about black people" and told me he said "black people suck", now it's he's posts bad memes and using slurs.

PennyPurple is right, I do the same. It's fun. You should try it sometimes.

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Reply #11 posted 05/07/21 7:00pm

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2elijah said:

SeventeenDayze said:



2elijah said:


So now he’s using his wife to say he’s not racist, yet heads been caught saying racist slurs against Black people. His wife us nuts for supporting his nonsense. Clowns. Smh.

Not long after the Capitol riot I saw another story of a different guy who also had a black wife and several children. I guess these guys are doing a "Strom Thurmond" here....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgwcoGVYIM


I mean if they’re caught on vid spewing racist slurs, there’s no question it would raise eyebrows, when they’re married to someone from a racial group, they spew those racist slurs about. I mean how much respect does he really have for his wife by doing that? No excuses. Smh.
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To him , he probably thinks that his wife might be Black, but she’s not a [N word variation snip - luv4u] bitch “ like so many other Black women, in his twisted mentality
And, like Candace”Prissy” Owens, she might relish being considered “different “ in such a way
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Reply #12 posted 05/07/21 8:11pm

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Strive said:

SeventeenDayze said:

So threads must have an implication? Are you one of these so-called Prince fans that only knows about Purple Rain and nothing else? The thread title is in reference to his song and the lyrics. I thought it was pretty obvious given the problematic things done and said by the Proud Boys. And why are you turning into this topic about who you are married to? Nobody brought it up. You did.

https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1307847555666120705

Usually people post something because they want to discuss it or they want other people's thoughts on it. What type of discussion were you looking to have? What type of thoughts were you wanting to cultivate?

And yes, sweetheart, I know that Strange Relationship is a Prince song. You aren't exactly referencing a deep cut.

That tweet is exactly why I post the way I do. You opened with this guy was "talking bad about black people" and told me he said "black people suck", now it's he's posts bad memes and using slurs.

PennyPurple is right, I do the same. It's fun. You should try it sometimes.

Funny how you're more irritated at the insinuation that you didn't catch the Strange Relationship reference more than the evidence of his problematic words. Why can't you address what has been posted instead of being upset and mansplaining to me what a forum is for? You asked for the proof and you got it and you STILL put "talking bad about black people" in quotes because it's not THAT bad right? Geezus.

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Reply #13 posted 05/07/21 8:17pm

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2elijah said:
I mean if they’re caught on vid spewing racist slurs, there’s no question it would raise eyebrows, when they’re married to someone from a racial group, they spew those racist slurs about. I mean how much respect does he really have for his wife by doing that? No excuses. Smh. [Edited 5/7/21 16:12pm]
To him , he probably thinks that his wife might be Black, but she’s not a[N word variation snip - luv4u] bitch “ like so many other Black women, in his twisted mentality And, like Candace”Prissy” Owens, she might relish being considered “different “ in such a way

I suppose there are men out there who can compartmentalize their disdain for the collective group but will make an exception for an individual. I guess it's not different than America's "founding fathers" having slaves, having children with slaves but still making no room in the Constitution for them to be free damn near 100 years after the piece of paper was signed....As far as Candace Owens goes, I've heard her husband is a white supremacist. Given some of her shitty tweets and problematic commentary, I'd say she agrees with white supremacy.

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Why would a true racist marry a black woman? Remember, you think they are inferior.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #15 posted 05/08/21 1:21pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Why would a true racist marry a black woman? Remember, you think they are inferior.



Because racism and bigotry is complicated and is often not a zero sum game where they hate 100 % of a particular group. Often it’s the concept of the “good one “, that member of the disliked group who is seen as completely different from the rest.,,

Look at all the right wing bigots who will tell you how much they “love” a Clarence Thomas or a David Clarke .,, you know the ones “who think for themselves “
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Reply #16 posted 05/08/21 1:24pm

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SeventeenDayze said:



jjhunsecker said:


2elijah said:
I mean if they’re caught on vid spewing racist slurs, there’s no question it would raise eyebrows, when they’re married to someone from a racial group, they spew those racist slurs about. I mean how much respect does he really have for his wife by doing that? No excuses. Smh. [Edited 5/7/21 16:12pm]

To him , he probably thinks that his wife might be Black, but she’s not a “[N word variation snip - luv4u] bitch “ like so many other Black women, in his twisted mentality And, like Candace”Prissy” Owens, she might relish being considered “different “ in such a way

I suppose there are men out there who can compartmentalize their disdain for the collective group but will make an exception for an individual. I guess it's not different than America's "founding fathers" having slaves, having children with slaves but still making no room in the Constitution for them to be free damn near 100 years after the piece of paper was signed....As far as Candace Owens goes, I've heard her husband is a white supremacist. Given some of her shitty tweets and problematic commentary, I'd say she agrees with white supremacy.



It’s a very twisted mentality on the part of all of those in the relationships
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Reply #17 posted 05/08/21 1:57pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

Funny how you're more irritated at the insinuation that you didn't catch the Strange Relationship reference more than the evidence of his problematic words. Why can't you address what has been posted instead of being upset and mansplaining to me what a forum is for? You asked for the proof and you got it and you STILL put "talking bad about black people" in quotes because it's not THAT bad right? Geezus.

It was a silly point. It's like we were on a Beach Boys forum and you were like "Maybe you don't get it because you only heard of Surfin' USA but I was referencing God Only Knows in the title" Like the title was something I was commenting on or that God Only Knows is some type of deep cut when it's single off of the most critically acclaimed album they ever released.


Let's address your Twitter link. I'll actually look at it and break it down since I've never even heard of this guy before.




- He pissed into a volcano. Ok?

- He called Alton Sterling - a man with violent criminal record, a registered sex offender and a person who was resisting arrest while high on meth, cocaine and opiates - a piece of shit. More specifically he was saying that in the context of certain people treating him like he was a saint because the police killed him.

- He posted memes with soft n words in this. Ok?

- He said he wanted to move the conversation beyond what is normally said because it's way more interesting than 'black people suck'...so it's the complete opposite of what you were trying to claim. He wants to delve deeper into the topic. Not just do surface level analysis and come to surface level conclusions like 'black people suck'

- Says he is not a white advocate and he doesn't live his life that way (understatement since he's married to a black woman and has a mixed kid) but doesn't have a problem with them. And openly admits he's just an edgelord playing with edgey concepts and that the the Proud Boys do the same. For example, like calling his podcast Right Wing Fun Squad (a play on Right Wing Death Squads) and using Fashwave aesthetics. (If that's his podcast, I don't know and can't find anything on duckduckgo about it.)

- Jokes about making inflammatory quotes.

- Jokes about taking back the mustache from gay people.

- Uses the f word. Which if you don't know chan culture or the internet before 2010, that's pretty standard stuff.

- More bad memes.

- Jokes we need white history month so people can learn about deep cuts with Steppenwolf.

- Gets mad that people try to say white ANTIFA members are the real rioters and says that it's a form of absolving blacks of responsiblity for the most obvious crimes and group failures. Specifically he mentions the looting footage where it was majority blacks doing the looting.

- He pisses into the sink along with volcanos. Why is this twitter account so obsessed with some guy's piss habits? And why does that make him a white supremacist nazi?

- Jokes about how Paypal is worse than the Spanish Inquisition.

- Literally says "nazi shit, rare as it is, doesn't help our cause" before saying that Ben Shapiro hurts the cause more than Richard Spencer. (I'm guess he means that everybody knows that Richard Spencer is a clown where as everybody takes Ben Shapiro seriously)

- Goes to proud boy demonstrations. Follows Trump. Is trying to get involved in politics.

- Posted videos from proud boy demonstrations.

- This twitter account is still obsessing over him pissing into a volcano.



And that's it. So a perfect example of why I don't care or usually engage with claims like that. I already know they're a hysterical misrepresentation of reality.



Same as people pretending that the Proud Boys (a really lame fraternal group) is the modern SS or that people walking in the capital for less than a day was an attempt at an insurrection.


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Strive said:



And that's it. So a perfect example of why I don't care or usually engage with claims like that. I already know they're a hysterical misrepresentation of reality.



Same as people pretending that the Proud Boys (a really lame fraternal group) is the modern SS or that people walking in the capital for less than a day was an attempt at an insurrection.

Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.

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2elijah said:

I mean if they’re caught on vid spewing racist slurs, there’s no question it would raise eyebrows, when they’re married to someone from a racial group, they spew those racist slurs about. I mean how much respect does he really have for his wife by doing that? No excuses. Smh. [Edited 5/7/21 16:12pm]

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You would be surprise how many human flaws that 2 individuals are willing to accept as long as their private bedroom activities are excellent. neutral

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And that's it. So a perfect example of why I don't care or usually engage with claims like that. I already know they're a hysterical misrepresentation of reality.



Same as people pretending that the Proud Boys (a really lame fraternal group) is the modern SS or that people walking in the capital for less than a day was an attempt at an insurrection.

Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.

They stayed within the velvet ropes while entering the building. They caused minimal damage. A few people stole some stuff. (the podium, nancy pelosi's laptop, aoc's shoes)

But they were non-violent and went home before dark. So this fantasy that they were trying to overthrow the government or take hostages or kill Mike Pence is just that, a fantasy.

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Strive said:

I know this is a strange thought but asians, blacks, latinos, whites...we're all human beings that can make our own decisions and come to their own conclusions.

That article couldn't be more bias but maybe that group isn't what you think it is if there's so many people of color as members. Just a thought.

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys, is afro-cuban.

Gavin McInnes, the original founder of the Proud Boys, is married to a Native American activist and has two mixed kids.

At the "riot" there was a number of South Vietnam flags being flown.

By saying you think minorites can only think one way, you are removing their agency.

But that would also imply that you can be wrong and heaven forbid you think that.

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It's the sex. That is the main thing that cannot be overlooked.

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Reply #22 posted 05/08/21 2:21pm

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jjhunsecker said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Why would a true racist marry a black woman? Remember, you think they are inferior.

Because racism and bigotry is complicated and is often not a zero sum game where they hate 100 % of a particular group. Often it’s the concept of the “good one “, that member of the disliked group who is seen as completely different from the rest.,, Look at all the right wing bigots who will tell you how much they “love” a Clarence Thomas or a David Clarke .,, you know the ones “who think for themselves “

I guess he doesn't consider slave owners "true racists" because they had kids with their female slaves. Unreal.

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Reply #23 posted 05/08/21 2:28pm

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Strive said:

PennyPurple said:

Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.

They stayed within the velvet ropes while entering the building. They caused minimal damage. A few people stole some stuff. (the podium, nancy pelosi's laptop, aoc's shoes)

But they were non-violent and went home before dark. So this fantasy that they were trying to overthrow the government or take hostages or kill Mike Pence is just that, a fantasy.

You're proving exactly what the problem is....rationalizing racism and downplaying treason. Fighting with police, breaking into the Capitol is still "not that bad" because they're white. Meanwhile the vast majority of BLM protestors have been peaceful but the alt-right is hyper focused on them as being an "extremist" group. And the fact that you're talking about they stayed within the velvet rope is an absolute joke. I really can't take you seriously because you're proving that many people can still adhere to white supremacist believes while still allowing room to be entertain by black people or to have them as sexual partners but still in a position of subservience.

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Strive said:



PennyPurple said:



And that's it. So a perfect example of why I don't care or usually engage with claims like that. I already know they're a hysterical misrepresentation of reality.





Same as people pretending that the Proud Boys (a really lame fraternal group) is the modern SS or that people walking in the capital for less than a day was an attempt at an insurrection.



Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.




They stayed within the velvet ropes while entering the building. They caused minimal damage. A few people stole some stuff. (the podium, nancy pelosi's laptop, aoc's shoes)



But they were non-violent and went home before dark. So this fantasy that they were trying to overthrow the government or take hostages or kill Mike Pence is just that, a fantasy.




They should have shot every motherfucker who entered that place. Or burned them to a crisp with flamethrowers.
You know, what they would have done to BLM protesters or Muslims who had done the same thing
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Strive said:

PennyPurple said:

Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.

They stayed within the velvet ropes while entering the building. They caused minimal damage. A few people stole some stuff. (the podium, nancy pelosi's laptop, aoc's shoes)

But they were non-violent and went home before dark. So this fantasy that they were trying to overthrow the government or take hostages or kill Mike Pence is just that, a fantasy.

OMG, you are delusional, and with your statement above, you are just shit stirring.

WE know what happened, we saw it with our own eyes, next you'll be telling us that you were there.

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PennyPurple said:



Strive said:













And that's it. So a perfect example of why I don't care or usually engage with claims like that. I already know they're a hysterical misrepresentation of reality.





Same as people pretending that the Proud Boys (a really lame fraternal group) is the modern SS or that people walking in the capital for less than a day was an attempt at an insurrection.



Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.



I suspect that he is hoping to win the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction this year for this post
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Reply #27 posted 05/08/21 2:51pm

Strive

SeventeenDayze said:

You're proving exactly what the problem is....rationalizing racism and downplaying treason. Fighting with police, breaking into the Capitol is still "not that bad" because they're white.

Notice how you assign race to the argument. Not me.

SeventeenDayze said:

Meanwhile the vast majority of BLM protestors have been peaceful but the alt-right is hyper focused on them as being an "extremist" group. And the fact that you're talking about they stayed within the velvet rope is an absolute joke.

Fucking lol - yeah guess the billions of dollars of damage caused during the months of rioting were mostly peaceful. Nobody was assaulted. Nobody was killed. The only possible reason somebody could disagree with them, in your mind, is because of race.

ps: https://www.youtube.com/w...cBRgyeoH90

SeventeenDayze said:

I really can't take you seriously because you're proving that many people can still adhere to white supremacist believes while still allowing room to be entertain by black people or to have them as sexual partners but still in a position of subservience.

How do you know what their personal relationship is like? Why did you not address the giant response you begged me for?

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Reply #28 posted 05/08/21 2:57pm

IanRG

Strive said:

PennyPurple said:

Fact is, people didn't just stroll into the capitol for a walk or a picnic. You know this, and so do we.

They stayed within the velvet ropes while entering the building. They caused minimal damage. A few people stole some stuff. (the podium, nancy pelosi's laptop, aoc's shoes)

But they were non-violent and went home before dark. So this fantasy that they were trying to overthrow the government or take hostages or kill Mike Pence is just that, a fantasy.

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There is a person living a fantasy and it is not Penny. If this was in any other country or by any other group of terrorists you would not be dimissing this they way you are.

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You are also factually wrong and in a way that points to insurrectionalist's objective. They attacked the functioning part of the building but left most (but be no means all) of the symbic part of the alone. They were not there to attack the BUILDING, they were there to attack the GOVERNMENT. They were particularly after Pence and Pelosi but if people like AOC or Mitt Romney where captured, then who knows? To their mind if they trashed the symbols on the otherside of the rope, then this would be against their objective of forcing Pence to reinstate the failed election loser instead of Biden, the person the people of the USA elected to replace him.

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The ONLY reason they left before dark is because they failed and their coup leader called them back. If their coup leader was not so inept that he could not even make money running a casino, the result could have so much worse.

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Ther ONLY reason they were non-violent is because of people like USCP Officer Eugene Goodman and the other officers who, outnumbered, surrendered the BUILDING but protected the GOVERNMENT. They practiced de-escalation techniques rather than the violent policing techniques encouraged by the coup leader.

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Why can't you see that this is not just opinion, but there are people in prison today based on the evidence and not your political spin and terrorist propaganda to somehow make this not what everyone knows and saw that it really was?

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Reply #29 posted 05/08/21 3:07pm

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IanRG said:

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group of terrorists

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insurrectionalist's. They attacked. they were there to attack the GOVERNMENT. They were particularly after Pence and Pelosi but if people like AOC or Mitt Romney where captured, then who knows?

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their coup leader

Ther ONLY reason they were non-violent is because of people like USCP Officer Eugene Goodman and the other officers who, outnumbered, surrendered the BUILDING but protected the GOVERNMENT. They practiced de-escalation techniques rather than the violent policing techniques encouraged by the coup leader.

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terrorist propaganda


Hmmmmmmmm why am I not taking you or the things you post seriously. It's a mystery.

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