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Reply #390 posted 06/07/21 1:43pm

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There are extremists in all ideas DJ. You 4 example.



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2Elijah I hipped u 2 that book. I remember posting on it. Mods, prove me right.



And, get this. I don't care about my whiteness or some such nonsense. My whiteness has closed more doors than opened. Me po


You’re a liar. It was my own sister who introduced me to that book. Long before I posted about it. I even watched his documentary of that book that was aired later on PBS.

And just so you know, it’s obvious the truth/facts and any discussion about this country’s racist history/present-day racial injustices, sure triggers the conscience of the deniers, so much so, they’re so scared of the ugly and uncomfortable truths about it, that some are going to all kinds of lengths to erase it.

Too bad for them, because you can’t bury that kind of ugly truth as long as there are people alive to tell it <—-and thank goodness for that.
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Reply #391 posted 06/07/21 2:31pm

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If your main source of information is the NY Post and people randomly ranting on YouTube, maybe a distortion and simplification of ideas as complex as what is labeled under the rubric of “Critical Race Theory “ will seem extremist...
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Reply #392 posted 06/07/21 2:32pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

There are extremists in all ideas DJ. You 4 example.


I guess Martin Luther King was an extremist as well?

If you believed that the possibility of a lab leak was a debunked conspiracy theory, you're getting your news from the wrong source. Just sayin'...
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Reply #393 posted 06/07/21 2:34pm

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

There are extremists in all ideas DJ. You 4 example.



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2Elijah I hipped u 2 that book. I remember posting on it. Mods, prove me right.



And, get this. I don't care about my whiteness or some such nonsense. My whiteness has closed more doors than opened. Me po


You’re a liar. It was my own sister who introduced me to that book. Long before I posted about it. I even watched his documentary of that book that was aired later on PBS.

And just so you know, it’s obvious the truth/facts and any discussion about this country’s racist history/present-day racial injustices, sure triggers the conscience of the deniers, so much so, they’re so scared of the ugly and uncomfortable truths about it, that some are going to all kinds of lengths to erase it.

Too bad for them, because you can’t bury that kind of ugly truth as long as there are people alive to tell it <—-and thank goodness for that.
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Let em live in their self created bubbles. Obviously they are most comfortable there.
You cannot force those who chose blindness that it’s more beneficial to actually see....
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Reply #394 posted 06/07/21 2:53pm

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2elijah said:


You’re a liar. It was my own sister who introduced me to that book. Long before I posted about it. I even watched his documentary of that book that was aired later on PBS.

And just so you know, it’s obvious the truth/facts and any discussion about this country’s racist history/present-day racial injustices, sure triggers the conscience of the deniers, so much so, they’re so scared of the ugly and uncomfortable truths about it, that some are going to all kinds of lengths to erase it.

Too bad for them, because you can’t bury that kind of ugly truth as long as there are people alive to tell it <—-and thank goodness for that.
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Let em live in their self created bubbles. Obviously they are most comfortable there.
You cannot force those who chose blindness that it’s more beneficial to actually see....

True, those bubbles they live in are so thick with smog, even if it was time for them to come out and take a breath of fresh air, they’d stay in it. Not to mention, how they work overtime to stay blind, says it all about them. They get what they think they know of a certain groups’s individual, life experiences in this country, confused with their false ticket of dictating to said groups, about what they think they know about them. It’s hilarious reading some of these comments. lol

I ran across this in the Harvard Gazette from 2019. Seems there was always the same type fear, (as it is now ) with many who are biased against certain groups coming to this country, and their fear of less Whites in America, specifically those biases from those who embrace(d) white supremacy ideology.


https://news.harvard.edu/...supremacy/
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Reply #395 posted 06/07/21 8:35pm

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CRT is something they do in colleges, history of race is good. Best to avoid Kendi and follow a book like Blackmon's book about Jim Crow.



2Elijah, give me a hug?





YOU should probably read “Caste”, but I suspect that you would not be able to handle what it’s all about
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Reply #396 posted 06/08/21 8:38am

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"Critical Race Theory" is so broad a term that the term itself should be banned for being close to meaningless. It's just the latest culture war bullshit dreamt up for rich people to fight about.




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jaawwnn said:

Yes, it's a good resource. I don't have a lot of time for people who think that race and class are not connected, that's a divide and conquer tactic to me, but there's absolutely no way of denying the huge amount of straight up racist murders that took place.

While I agree that race and class are interconnected (though I think that “class “ is a much more malleable concept in America than perhaps elsewhere), I also point out that the markers of class, still didn’t (doesn’t) protect middle and upper class Black people from the same treatment metered out to the Black underclass

Stop trying to goad me into finding a way to disagree. Its both/and, not either/or.

If wealth was redistributed in America along racial lines so that 14.7% of rich people were African American, 14.7 of middle class people were African American (or whatever the percentage of African Americans is in 2021)etc. etc. but the rich/poor gap was kept the same the country would be no better. Google and Amazon have no problem being woke about these things.




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Reply #397 posted 06/08/21 12:10pm

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jaawwnn said:

"Critical Race Theory" is so broad a term that the term itself should be banned for being close to meaningless. It's just the latest culture war bullshit dreamt up for rich people to fight about.








jjhunsecker said:


jaawwnn said:


Yes, it's a good resource. I don't have a lot of time for people who think that race and class are not connected, that's a divide and conquer tactic to me, but there's absolutely no way of denying the huge amount of straight up racist murders that took place.



While I agree that race and class are interconnected (though I think that “class “ is a much more malleable concept in America than perhaps elsewhere), I also point out that the markers of class, still didn’t (doesn’t) protect middle and upper class Black people from the same treatment metered out to the Black underclass


Stop trying to goad me into finding a way to disagree. Its both/and, not either/or.

If wealth was redistributed in America along racial lines so that 14.7% of rich people were African American, 14.7 of middle class people were African American (or whatever the percentage of African Americans is in 2021)etc. etc. but the rich/poor gap was kept the same the country would be no better. Google and Amazon have no problem being woke about these things.






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I don’t disagree with anything you say. I just have added points-
1. The markers of class - money, dress, education, bearing- simply do not protect a middle or even upper class Black person from the treatment that poorer Black people receive. Many non-Black folks do not make that distinction when they come across a Black person (There’s a Black man named Ray McGuire running for New York mayor who is a high level business executive, and one of the first things he says in his ads is “When I walk around the city, I’m perceived as just another Black man.”

2. I don’t think the class stratum in America is as strict and impenetrable as it seems to be in Europe or Asia. I think here, a decent looking White person who can speak the Kings English, and doesn’t look or behave like a meth head or a total lunatic, can pretty much move up in social class fairly easily, especially if they gain the preferred educational credentials. At that point, their original “class “ won’t really matter- they’ll be welcomed into the American “Meritocracy “
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Reply #398 posted 06/08/21 12:13pm

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Gotta love how much some will bend over backwards coming up with reasons critics of CRT don't like it but never want to talk about the reason we give: CRT is racist propaganda that fights percieved racism with very overt racism and causes more racism.

If you believed that the possibility of a lab leak was a debunked conspiracy theory, you're getting your news from the wrong source. Just sayin'...
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Reply #399 posted 06/08/21 2:18pm

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jaawwnn said:

"Critical Race Theory" is so broad a term that the term itself should be banned for being close to meaningless. It's just the latest culture war bullshit dreamt up for rich people to fight about.




jjhunsecker said:

jaawwnn said: While I agree that race and class are interconnected (though I think that “class “ is a much more malleable concept in America than perhaps elsewhere), I also point out that the markers of class, still didn’t (doesn’t) protect middle and upper class Black people from the same treatment metered out to the Black underclass

Stop trying to goad me into finding a way to disagree. Its both/and, not either/or.

If wealth was redistributed in America along racial lines so that 14.7% of rich people were African American, 14.7 of middle class people were African American (or whatever the percentage of African Americans is in 2021)etc. etc. but the rich/poor gap was kept the same the country would be no better. Google and Amazon have no problem being woke about these things.




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Agreed - you need to address racism and classism.

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Fixing the disparity of class privilege along racial lines in the way you suggest will elevate some of the people in disadvantaged broad racial groups up, at least by the proxy measure of wealth distribution.

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It will improve the country because there will be fewer people in the disadvantaged wealth groups as they are currently inflated by over representation by people in those races.

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However, it will not end racism nor the disparity between people in different wealth bands. The method of wealth distribution may, in fact, increase racism, especially by poor people of other races. Solving racism must be different from solving class privilege but they should be done together without thinking that you can ignore racism in more privileged wealth brackets and just focus on universal class privilege fixes for the poor.

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Reply #400 posted 06/09/21 4:10am

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djThunderfunk said:

Gotta love how much some will bend over backwards coming up with reasons critics of CRT don't like it but never want to talk about the reason we give: CRT is racist propaganda that fights percieved racism with very overt racism and causes more racism.

Which bit of Critical Race Theory are you talking about? What thinker? What book? You are being very, very vague. Who is is propaganda for? What is the end goal of this propaganda? Why are people pushing it?


I'm no expert on CRT, my understanding of it is that it is a highly academic, abstract theory that has unfortunately been vaulted into the mainstream via activists using academic terms stripped of context, and various conservative outlets painting it as this weeks bogey man.

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I don’t disagree with anything you say. I just have added points- 1. The markers of class - money, dress, education, bearing- simply do not protect a middle or even upper class Black person from the treatment that poorer Black people receive. Many non-Black folks do not make that distinction when they come across a Black person (There’s a Black man named Ray McGuire running for New York mayor who is a high level business executive, and one of the first things he says in his ads is “When I walk around the city, I’m perceived as just another Black man.” 2. I don’t think the class stratum in America is as strict and impenetrable as it seems to be in Europe or Asia. I think here, a decent looking White person who can speak the Kings English, and doesn’t look or behave like a meth head or a total lunatic, can pretty much move up in social class fairly easily, especially if they gain the preferred educational credentials. At that point, their original “class “ won’t really matter- they’ll be welcomed into the American “Meritocracy “ [Edited 6/8/21 12:23pm]


My point is that if you removed racism then inequality would not be solved, not that racism doesn't exist. No doubt white people in America benefit from racism, just as Americans of all colors benefit from being born in America and not, say, any country that America has bombed or couped into the stone age.



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Reply #401 posted 06/09/21 5:21am

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jaawwnn said:



djThunderfunk said:


Gotta love how much some will bend over backwards coming up with reasons critics of CRT don't like it but never want to talk about the reason we give: CRT is racist propaganda that fights percieved racism with very overt racism and causes more racism.



Which bit of Critical Race Theory are you talking about? What thinker? What book? You are being very, very vague. Who is is propaganda for? What is the end goal of this propaganda? Why are people pushing it?



I'm no expert on CRT, my understanding of it is that it is a highly academic, abstract theory that has unfortunately been vaulted into the mainstream via activists using academic terms stripped of context, and various conservative outlets painting it as this weeks bogey man.




jjhunsecker said:


I don’t disagree with anything you say. I just have added points- 1. The markers of class - money, dress, education, bearing- simply do not protect a middle or even upper class Black person from the treatment that poorer Black people receive. Many non-Black folks do not make that distinction when they come across a Black person (There’s a Black man named Ray McGuire running for New York mayor who is a high level business executive, and one of the first things he says in his ads is “When I walk around the city, I’m perceived as just another Black man.” 2. I don’t think the class stratum in America is as strict and impenetrable as it seems to be in Europe or Asia. I think here, a decent looking White person who can speak the Kings English, and doesn’t look or behave like a meth head or a total lunatic, can pretty much move up in social class fairly easily, especially if they gain the preferred educational credentials. At that point, their original “class “ won’t really matter- they’ll be welcomed into the American “Meritocracy “ [Edited 6/8/21 12:23pm]


My point is that if you removed racism then inequality would not be solved, not that racism doesn't exist. No doubt white people in America benefit from racism, just as Americans of all colors benefit from being born in America and not, say, any country that America has bombed or couped into the stone age.



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Again, I think we fundamentally agree on this issue

As for Critical Race Theory, I’m sure one would get an extremely distorted and simplistic view of the concepts if your main source of information is a Murdoch run rag, or random rantings on YouTube. You asked Very good questions.... too bad you’ll never get an answer
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Reply #402 posted 06/09/21 5:43am

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jjhunsecker said:

jaawwnn said:


Again, I think we fundamentally agree on this issue As for Critical Race Theory, I’m sure one would get an extremely distorted and simplistic view of the concepts if your main source of information is a Murdoch run rag, or random rantings on YouTube. You asked Very good questions.... too bad you’ll never get an answer

Well in regards CRT, i'm willing to concede that there's a certain amount of career-ism presented as activism going on, but sure name an area where that isn't happening. My own two cents would be that the problem is the financialization of everything, from schooling and prisons to onlyfans, not specficially CRT.

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Reply #403 posted 06/09/21 8:54am

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jjhunsecker said:

jaawwnn said:

"Critical Race Theory" is so broad a term that the term itself should be banned for being close to meaningless. It's just the latest culture war bullshit dreamt up for rich people to fight about.








jjhunsecker said:


jaawwnn said:


Yes, it's a good resource. I don't have a lot of time for people who think that race and class are not connected, that's a divide and conquer tactic to me, but there's absolutely no way of denying the huge amount of straight up racist murders that took place.



While I agree that race and class are interconnected (though I think that “class “ is a much more malleable concept in America than perhaps elsewhere), I also point out that the markers of class, still didn’t (doesn’t) protect middle and upper class Black people from the same treatment metered out to the Black underclass


Stop trying to goad me into finding a way to disagree. Its both/and, not either/or.

If wealth was redistributed in America along racial lines so that 14.7% of rich people were African American, 14.7 of middle class people were African American (or whatever the percentage of African Americans is in 2021)etc. etc. but the rich/poor gap was kept the same the country would be no better. Google and Amazon have no problem being woke about these things.






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I don’t disagree with anything you say. I just have added points-
1. The markers of class - money, dress, education, bearing- simply do not protect a middle or even upper class Black person from the treatment that poorer Black people receive. Many non-Black folks do not make that distinction when they come across a Black person (There’s a Black man named Ray McGuire running for New York mayor who is a high level business executive, and one of the first things he says in his ads is “When I walk around the city, I’m perceived as just another Black man.”

2. I don’t think the class stratum in America is as strict and impenetrable as it seems to be in Europe or Asia. I think here, a decent looking White person who can speak the Kings English, and doesn’t look or behave like a meth head or a total lunatic, can pretty much move up in social class fairly easily, especially if they gain the preferred educational credentials. At that point, their original “class “ won’t really matter- they’ll be welcomed into the American “Meritocracy “
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Agree, with paragraph #1. That’s the part some just don’t understand. You have to live it to know. Some don’t get it or don’t want to make the effort to comprehend what you are saying. Example: 2 Black American males walk into a particular store casually dressed, at a different time, and one who chooses to racially profile them would not see them ‘different’ than the other. The profiler doesn’t see their ‘class’ nor cares about their economic status, because they see their race first.
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Reply #404 posted 06/09/21 6:38pm

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jj sure loves to just throw stuff against the wall. There is no meritocracy. Rich people stay rich, middle class people stay MC, working class stay WC or become poor, the poor, of all colors, stay poor. We have numbers.

African immigrants seem to do quite well. Racism doesn't hold them back, even though it is obviously there.

jj needs to go to West Virginia and rural America. No meritocracy there. Just poverty.

The idea that rich black people are equally abused is crazy. Barack Obama talked about not getting cabs, but he still became President.

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The problem with CRT is you cannot explain it.

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Reply #405 posted 06/09/21 7:02pm

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According to critical race theory, hard work, objectivity, being on time, the nuclear family... are all aspects of whiteness and therefore racist.

If you believed that the possibility of a lab leak was a debunked conspiracy theory, you're getting your news from the wrong source. Just sayin'...
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Reply #406 posted 06/09/21 10:06pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

jj sure loves to just throw stuff against the wall. There is no meritocracy. Rich people stay rich, middle class people stay MC, working class stay WC or become poor, the poor, of all colors, stay poor. We have numbers.



African immigrants seem to do quite well. Racism doesn't hold them back, even though it is obviously there.



jj needs to go to West Virginia and rural America. No meritocracy there. Just poverty.



The idea that rich black people are equally abused is crazy. Barack Obama talked about not getting cabs, but he still became President.



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The problem with CRT is you cannot explain it.



Just because you don’t have merit doesn’t mean that others haven’t succeeded. Maybe you should read “Hillbilly Elegy”.

As for what you know about the lives of “rich “ Blacks, or middle class Blacks, or any Black people for that matter- it is apparently not very much, I’ll take my own personal experiences, and that of friends and family, and people like Ray McGuire and Questlove and Oscar winner Forest Whittaker over your nonsensical ranting any day
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Reply #407 posted 06/10/21 7:08am

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And notice the argument that downplays racism in America because Obama was elected President.... the exact same thing said by Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity

The insane Far Left and the insane Far Right in agreement once again
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Reply #408 posted 06/10/21 12:03pm

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And notice the argument that downplays racism in America because Obama was elected President.... the exact same thing said by Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity The insane Far Left and the insane Far Right in agreement once again

This country will destroy itself before it addresses racism on a real level.

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Reply #409 posted 06/10/21 12:58pm

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jjhunsecker said:

2freaky4church1 said:

jj sure loves to just throw stuff against the wall. There is no meritocracy. Rich people stay rich, middle class people stay MC, working class stay WC or become poor, the poor, of all colors, stay poor. We have numbers.



African immigrants seem to do quite well. Racism doesn't hold them back, even though it is obviously there.



jj needs to go to West Virginia and rural America. No meritocracy there. Just poverty.



The idea that rich black people are equally abused is crazy. Barack Obama talked about not getting cabs, but he still became President.



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The problem with CRT is you cannot explain it.



Just because you don’t have merit doesn’t mean that others haven’t succeeded. Maybe you should read “Hillbilly Elegy”.

As for what you know about the lives of “rich “ Blacks, or middle class Blacks, or any Black people for that matter- it is apparently not very much, I’ll take my own personal experiences, and that of friends and family, and people like Ray McGuire and Questlove and Oscar winner Forest Whittaker over your nonsensical ranting any day
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2freak has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He’s so desperate, now he’s talking nonsensical bs.

I guess those wealthy, successful Black Americans who lived in segregated towns during the segregation eras, weren’t affected by racism either, but oh they just had racist Whites from every, economical background come in, burned and bombed their homes, stole their property, murdered, lynched men/women/children, chased many of them out of town.

I guess in the 1980s all those pipe bombs that blasted the homes of Blacks, who dared to move into predominantly, white areas, weren’t affected by the hatred the racists committed against them and their homes, and harassed their families vs the racial hatred/harassment experienced by many, poor Blacks facing racial hatred just the same, in all its forms.

2freak needs a reality check, because he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.

Denying that there’s no racism in America today, and assuming those of African descent, who are at a higher educational and economic level, doesn’t experience racism, is like saying colonization never existed in America, and that it didn’t affect those whose cultures/lives as they once knew it, was forever ripped away from them.
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Reply #410 posted 06/10/21 3:07pm

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If you believed that the possibility of a lab leak was a debunked conspiracy theory, you're getting your news from the wrong source. Just sayin'...
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Reply #411 posted 06/10/21 3:25pm

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RJOrion said:

the P&R forum has become nothing more than a safe haven for the racist whites and self hating blacks & self hating biracials who masquerade as Prince fans, to put on their white sheets and white hoods, and spew their White Supremacists views and anti-"black" rhetoric.

That's the truth!

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Reply #412 posted 06/10/21 6:34pm

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The racist that keeps quoting black marxists. lol

2Elijah and jj voted for a man who may actually be a racist. According to Tara Reade, also a sexual predator. There is a vast difference between Jim Crow laws, lynchings, substandard housing, and being called a name.

Fuck Hillbilly Elegy, how about Deer Hunting With Jesus, where Joe Bageant, a Marxist writer, goes back to his home town and explains why working class whites have those awful views.

In his own words:

"Rednecks aren't racist. I know a bunch of them who have daughters who date black guys. It's not what they say."

They being you pc liberals. race/class paradigm. I love you anyway.

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Reply #413 posted 06/10/21 6:37pm

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Adolph Reed warns about the term "Afro-pessimism," where blacks think that the man has his boot on their necks to the point where they can never succeed. That hampers progress. Note I have yet to quote any right winger.

You all sound like Jason Johnson and Joy Reid, the liberal Tuckers.

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Reply #414 posted 06/10/21 7:30pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The racist that keeps quoting black marxists. lol



2Elijah and jj voted for a man who may actually be a racist. According to Tara Reade, also a sexual predator. There is a vast difference between Jim Crow laws, lynchings, substandard housing, and being called a name.



Fuck Hillbilly Elegy, how about Deer Hunting With Jesus, where Joe Bageant, a Marxist writer, goes back to his home town and explains why working class whites have those awful views.



In his own words:



"Rednecks aren't racist. I know a bunch of them who have daughters who date black guys. It's not what they say."



They being you pc liberals. race/class paradigm. I love you anyway.



“I’m not racist. I love my favorite Blacks”...
Sounds just like the ones who just looooove Clarence Thomas or Candace Owens...
As long as you find a Black who agrees with you, they’re OK... it’s the “Good One “ syndrome
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Reply #415 posted 06/10/21 7:45pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Adolph Reed warns about the term "Afro-pessimism," where blacks think that the man has his boot on their necks to the point where they can never succeed. That hampers progress. Note I have yet to quote any right winger.



You all sound like Jason Johnson and Joy Reid, the liberal Tuckers.



Which is bizarre, because you yourself said that you didn’t care what happened to middle and upper class Black people, only the “Black poor “. I guess you prefer your Blacks “poor and ignorant “

The whole point we are making is about how racism has affected Black people who HAVE SUCCEEDED , despite all the obstacles
So fuck this Adolph Reed that you keep quoting as if he is some kind of a God... he can go shine my shoes for all I care about him
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Reply #416 posted 06/10/21 7:49pm

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



Just because you don’t have merit doesn’t mean that others haven’t succeeded. Maybe you should read “Hillbilly Elegy”.

As for what you know about the lives of “rich “ Blacks, or middle class Blacks, or any Black people for that matter- it is apparently not very much, I’ll take my own personal experiences, and that of friends and family, and people like Ray McGuire and Questlove and Oscar winner Forest Whittaker over your nonsensical ranting any day
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2freak has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He’s so desperate, now he’s talking nonsensical bs.

I guess those wealthy, successful Black Americans who lived in segregated towns during the segregation eras, weren’t affected by racism either, but oh they just had racist Whites from every, economical background come in, burned and bombed their homes, stole their property, murdered, lynched men/women/children, chased many of them out of town.

I guess in the 1980s all those pipe bombs that blasted the homes of Blacks, who dared to move into predominantly, white areas, weren’t affected by the hatred the racists committed against them and their homes, and harassed their families vs the racial hatred/harassment experienced by many, poor Blacks facing racial hatred just the same, in all its forms.

2freak needs a reality check, because he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.

Denying that there’s no racism in America today, and assuming those of African descent, who are at a higher educational and economic level, doesn’t experience racism, is like saying colonization never existed in America, and that it didn’t affect those whose cultures/lives as they once knew it, was forever ripped away from them.
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He simply has no idea what he is talking about
To quote another great African American genius, James Brown, he is “Talking Loud and Saying Nothing “
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Reply #417 posted 06/10/21 8:14pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The racist that keeps quoting black marxists. lol

2Elijah and jj voted for a man who may actually be a racist. According to Tara Reade, also a sexual predator. There is a vast difference between Jim Crow laws, lynchings, substandard housing, and being called a name.

Fuck Hillbilly Elegy, how about Deer Hunting With Jesus, where Joe Bageant, a Marxist writer, goes back to his home town and explains why working class whites have those awful views.

In his own words:

"Rednecks aren't racist. I know a bunch of them who have daughters who date black guys. It's not what they say."

They being you pc liberals. race/class paradigm. I love you anyway.

“I’m not racist. I love my favorite Blacks”... Sounds just like the ones who just looooove Clarence Thomas or Candace Owens... As long as you find a Black who agrees with you, they’re OK... it’s the “Good One “ syndrome

Yep....anyone who's not down with their program can't "think for themselves" or they just want "free stuff". I'm 60 and I've heard that bullshit for as long as I can remember.

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Reply #418 posted 06/11/21 10:39am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The racist that keeps quoting black marxists. lol



2Elijah and jj voted for a man who may actually be a racist. According to Tara Reade, also a sexual predator. There is a vast difference between Jim Crow laws, lynchings, substandard housing, and being called a name.



Fuck Hillbilly Elegy, how about Deer Hunting With Jesus, where Joe Bageant, a Marxist writer, goes back to his home town and explains why working class whites have those awful views.



In his own words:



"Rednecks aren't racist. I know a bunch of them who have daughters who date black guys. It's not what they say."



They being you pc liberals. race/class paradigm. I love you anyway.


falloff Get help 2freak to get over your obsession with me and JJ. Our truths are too heavy for you.
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Reply #419 posted 06/11/21 10:41am

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jjhunsecker said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The racist that keeps quoting black marxists. lol



2Elijah and jj voted for a man who may actually be a racist. According to Tara Reade, also a sexual predator. There is a vast difference between Jim Crow laws, lynchings, substandard housing, and being called a name.



Fuck Hillbilly Elegy, how about Deer Hunting With Jesus, where Joe Bageant, a Marxist writer, goes back to his home town and explains why working class whites have those awful views.



In his own words:



"Rednecks aren't racist. I know a bunch of them who have daughters who date black guys. It's not what they say."



They being you pc liberals. race/class paradigm. I love you anyway.



“I’m not racist. I love my favorite Blacks”...
Sounds just like the ones who just looooove Clarence Thomas or Candace Owens...
As long as you find a Black who agrees with you, they’re OK... it’s the “Good One “ syndrome

falloff Exactly. They’re the ones that will never get it, because they don’t want to. They know they can’t handle the ugly and uncomfortable truths about America’s history, so ‘spin it’ is all they know. But that won’t work to erase or pretend this country’s ugly, racist history didn’t happen.
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