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Reply #30 posted 05/02/21 9:44am

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We should fight police abuse, for all, not just one color. Universality, in health care and in economics. Most blacks agree in polls. Intersectionality is largely a college invention to justify a kind of race priesthood.

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Reply #31 posted 05/02/21 9:59am

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jjhunsecker said:
So so true... I don’t understand why there is such pushback from those outside the community, but I suspect you hit the nail on the head
They don’t want to admit this country is built on a system of racism, when all the documented proof exists, and nothing will change until it gets the f**ck out of America’s institutions. They clean that sh*t up and there’s a possibility America could move forward, but when you have the still existing Trump mentality folks, and ‘many’ members of the GOP working overtime to suppress voting rights, and suddenly impose voting restrictions when the demographics change, then no way in hell is this country out of the racism game. [Edited 5/2/21 9:45am]



not sure anyone has really denied that slavery was used do many of the things that got us where we are today. but as I am sure you know it was hardly just one race or ethnic group that was enslaved (and I 100% include most indentured servants as slaves as they were often held in forced service well beyond the original terms--this is used today in the human trafficking especially in the sex slavery trade.)


you also have to come to terms this is not just an issue in the US but a global issue. The good news is you are privileged to be able to speak to these evils.

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Reply #32 posted 05/02/21 10:06am

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You cannot link slavery to today. That was a long time ago. They were slaves, we are not.

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Reply #33 posted 05/02/21 10:15am

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I don't care about what jj "feels." If I say I feel that aliens abduct white men I'm rightly odd. As Hume said, you must reign in the passions with reason.



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Jane Elliott said racism is ignorance. That is rightly true, common sense. The reason her subjects get so bent out of shape is because they think disrespect because of eye color is wrong--proof they think racism is wrong. Blacks are used to the treatment so they don't freak out. It is obvious that a well dressed black man will get jacked by police before a white man in jeans. But, white men in jeans are more likely to get hassled on average than well dressed black men. jj is giving minor cases. I have yet to see a fact. Just hyper-feeling. Victimhood in fact. One area the right is correct on.



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Back in the day you would see signs with "No dogs, no Irish" in store windows. Aren't the Irish white? How about how we treated Germans in the 20s? Swedes, Italians, to the point they moved to segregated enclaves. Racism replaced ethic bigotry, which still exists, but in private more. Rich whites did that. We certainly hate the Russians now. Are they in fact white? No. There is no white.



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We now support Israel, mainly because they are European Jews. Racism exists, but class is the way to deal with much of it.



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There are 500 thousand whites in prison. How odd, since prisons are only about race.





This post is all over the place... like that artist who just splatters paint all over the canvas and tries to see a pattern after the fact
Such a jumble of unconnected issues and random thoughts
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Reply #34 posted 05/02/21 10:20am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You cannot link slavery to today. That was a long time ago. They were slaves, we are not.

who are you even talking to?

Slavery is alive today... and it was not limited to any one group. (and the African slave trade was stated in Africa by Black Africans. Also know that more African slaves were sent to both: other parts of congenital Aferica and to South America than where sent to what is now the US.)

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Reply #35 posted 05/02/21 10:22am

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jjhunsecker said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I don't care about what jj "feels." If I say I feel that aliens abduct white men I'm rightly odd. As Hume said, you must reign in the passions with reason.

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Jane Elliott said racism is ignorance. That is rightly true, common sense. The reason her subjects get so bent out of shape is because they think disrespect because of eye color is wrong--proof they think racism is wrong. Blacks are used to the treatment so they don't freak out. It is obvious that a well dressed black man will get jacked by police before a white man in jeans. But, white men in jeans are more likely to get hassled on average than well dressed black men. jj is giving minor cases. I have yet to see a fact. Just hyper-feeling. Victimhood in fact. One area the right is correct on.

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Back in the day you would see signs with "No dogs, no Irish" in store windows. Aren't the Irish white? How about how we treated Germans in the 20s? Swedes, Italians, to the point they moved to segregated enclaves. Racism replaced ethic bigotry, which still exists, but in private more. Rich whites did that. We certainly hate the Russians now. Are they in fact white? No. There is no white.

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We now support Israel, mainly because they are European Jews. Racism exists, but class is the way to deal with much of it.

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There are 500 thousand whites in prison. How odd, since prisons are only about race.

This post is all over the place... like that artist who just splatters paint all over the canvas and tries to see a pattern after the fact Such a jumble of unconnected issues and random thoughts

just because one doesn't appreciate something (such as Pollock) doesn't mean it is not of value.

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Reply #36 posted 05/02/21 10:23am

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I noticed how 2Elijah and jj ducked slavery in Africa. I guess they think it is good there but not here.

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Reply #37 posted 05/02/21 10:25am

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Two top issues for blacks: Health care and housing. How odd, where is racism? It's number 3 but blame the media for inflaming race.

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Reply #38 posted 05/02/21 10:26am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I noticed how 2Elijah and jj ducked slavery in Africa. I guess they think it is good there but not here.

I give some a pass on simply not knowing the whole truth. Some do not know slavery is alive and well today and by some estimates even more people are slaves today than during the height of slavery in the US prior to the civil war.

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Reply #39 posted 05/02/21 10:28am

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Reply #40 posted 05/02/21 10:28am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I noticed how 2Elijah and jj ducked slavery in Africa. I guess they think it is good there but not here.



I see you ducked discussing rape in Bosnia, so I guess you think it is good there but not here..,

(See how easy it is to make absurd leaps to conclusions that no one has actually voiced)
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Reply #41 posted 05/02/21 10:30am

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Rape in Bosnia is so last week.

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Reply #42 posted 05/02/21 10:30am

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2freaky4church1 said:

We should fight police abuse, for all, not just one color. Universality, in health care and in economics. Most blacks agree in polls. Intersectionality is largely a college invention to justify a kind of race priesthood.


You can’t speak for Black Americans’ individual experiences with racial injustice, no matter how many threads/comments you post about race.
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Reply #43 posted 05/02/21 10:32am

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Even if the issue is ginned up?

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Reply #44 posted 05/02/21 10:32am

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If anyone wants to start a topic about slavery throughout the world and throughout history, they are free to do so

But I believe THIS thread is about America, and it’s history
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Reply #45 posted 05/02/21 10:33am

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

We should fight police abuse, for all, not just one color. Universality, in health care and in economics. Most blacks agree in polls. Intersectionality is largely a college invention to justify a kind of race priesthood.

You can’t speak for Black Americans’ individual experiences with racial injustice, no matter how many threads/comments you post about race.

if that is the case you can't speak for White Americans’ individual experiences with racial injustice or white privlage, no matter how many threads/comments you post about race.

"So the best way to get something done, if you, if you hold near and dear to that, you uh um, like to be able uh...Anyway." - Joe Biden
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Reply #46 posted 05/02/21 10:35am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I noticed how 2Elijah and jj ducked slavery in Africa. I guess they think it is good there but not here.


Liar. There you go again, trying to think for us and out words in our mouths.

You’re a regular trumpian now.

You’re so jealous of Black Americans that you have to find reasons to lie about us. Is that why you’re extremely obsessed with us? You must be real, damn lonely. You can’t keep mine or JJ’s usernames out of your mouth. popcorn
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Reply #47 posted 05/02/21 10:37am

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

We should fight police abuse, for all, not just one color. Universality, in health care and in economics. Most blacks agree in polls. Intersectionality is largely a college invention to justify a kind of race priesthood.


You can’t speak for Black Americans’ individual experiences with racial injustice, no matter how many threads/comments you post about race.


I guess because he read a few books from some crackpots... Er, I mean “authors “ , he considers himself an expert on race in America and is in the position to tell others how they SHOULD think and feel and behave (even if people have often come to their conclusions based on their own experiences and that of family and friends and neighbors)
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Reply #48 posted 05/02/21 10:39am

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jjhunsecker said:

If anyone wants to start a topic about slavery throughout the world and throughout history, they are free to do so

But I believe THIS thread is about America, and it’s history

Lol, come on JJ, they can’t even handle the truth about their own country‘a history and modern day racism, how are they going to handle truths about slavery and racism around the world?? You know they have to deflect to get away from any topic regarding racism or slavery in America. falloff that goes to show you how uncomfortable some of them who are complaining/attacking are, because the topic of racism in America makes them nervous, so deflecting is their comfort weapon, but nothing they say will change the fact that racial injustices/racism exists in America. They can keep putting bandaids on it, but that’s what bandaids do, they just cover up.
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Reply #49 posted 05/02/21 10:40am

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I noticed how 2Elijah and jj ducked slavery in Africa. I guess they think it is good there but not here.


Liar. There you go again, trying to think for us and out words in our mouths.

You’re a regular trumpian now.

You’re so jealous of Black Americans that you have to find reasons to lie about us. Is that why you’re extremely obsessed with us? You must be real, damn lonely. You can’t keep mine or JJ’s usernames out of your mouth. popcorn


Well, it’s obvious we’ve become an obsession of his.
I don’t know whether to be flattered or scared or creeped out
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Reply #50 posted 05/02/21 10:42am

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2freaky4church1 said:

JJ, 2Elijah, you off the train now? lol

I don't even agree with Biden. Lotsa racism.

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CORRECTION: President Joe Biden actually say America is not racist. He did not even use the word "most", whicn means he did imply that, in his opinion, all of USA is not racist.

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And for the record, I do not agree with any part of the president's opinion at all. disbelief

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Reply #51 posted 05/02/21 10:44am

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jjhunsecker said:

If anyone wants to start a topic about slavery throughout the world and throughout history, they are free to do so

But I believe THIS thread is about America, and it’s history

Problem is, if someone were to start a thread about slavery today in Qatar, the thread would sink like the Titanic because folks here are only interested in talking about America.
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Reply #52 posted 05/02/21 10:46am

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jjhunsecker said:

If anyone wants to start a topic about slavery throughout the world and throughout history, they are free to do so But I believe THIS thread is about America, and it’s history



isn't that part of the problem? and no this topic is not about "America, (sic) and it's (sic) history" it is about the prevalence of racism (and I assume identity based bigotry in general) among Americans (I will assume he meant US Persons here or aboard).

Slavery of several racial and ethnic backgrounds throughout the history of the US and rest of the world lead to some of the issues we have now.


another issue is that even from within groups that have traditionally been the victim of racism and other forms of identity bigotry there is an all too common bigoted mindset.


Let's be honest JJ limited to just the ORG: have you or have you not used ethnic and race based slurs here on the ORG? Have you not posted how you would use them against some members of some groups?


no one is perfect but it is hard to take any one serous who is belly aching about being a victims when they 1) use bigoted language themselves and 2) want to ignore elements that seem to counter their own narratives.

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Reply #53 posted 05/02/21 10:47am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

jjhunsecker said:
If anyone wants to start a topic about slavery throughout the world and throughout history, they are free to do so But I believe THIS thread is about America, and it’s history
Problem is, if someone were to start a thread about slavery today in Qatar, the thread would sink like the Titanic because folks here are only interested in talking about America.

or global human trafficking to feed slavery in the US Sex trade

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Reply #54 posted 05/02/21 10:51am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

If anyone wants to start a topic about slavery throughout the world and throughout history, they are free to do so

But I believe THIS thread is about America, and it’s history

Lol, come on JJ, they can’t even handle the truth about their own country‘a history and modern day racism, how are they going to handle truths about slavery and racism around the world?? You know they have to deflect to get away from any topic regarding racism or slavery in America. falloff:


I truly don’t understand what point they are trying to make... And I doubt if they do either!!

It just seems like they want to “gaslight “- tell people that what they have seen and heard and experienced is just some sort of mass delusion of some races.
It’s very fucking weird
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Reply #55 posted 05/02/21 10:51am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I don't care about what jj "feels." If I say I feel that aliens abduct white men I'm rightly odd. As Hume said, you must reign in the passions with reason.

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Jane Elliott said racism is ignorance. That is rightly true, common sense. The reason her subjects get so bent out of shape is because they think disrespect because of eye color is wrong--proof they think racism is wrong. Blacks are used to the treatment so they don't freak out. It is obvious that a well dressed black man will get jacked by police before a white man in jeans. But, white men in jeans are more likely to get hassled on average than well dressed black men. jj is giving minor cases. I have yet to see a fact. Just hyper-feeling. Victimhood in fact. One area the right is correct on.

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Back in the day you would see signs with "No dogs, no Irish" in store windows. Aren't the Irish white? How about how we treated Germans in the 20s? Swedes, Italians, to the point they moved to segregated enclaves. Racism replaced ethic bigotry, which still exists, but in private more. Rich whites did that. We certainly hate the Russians now. Are they in fact white? No. There is no white.

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We now support Israel, mainly because they are European Jews. Racism exists, but class is the way to deal with much of it.

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There are 500 thousand whites in prison. How odd, since prisons are only about race.

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You finally figured out that modern-day Zionism is basically a white European Jewish version of white supremacy. nod "Free Palestine", indeed.

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Also, I knew you were an Abby Martin fan on a down low. wink

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Reply #56 posted 05/02/21 10:52am

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jj and 2Elijah, this is what your opinions lead to, what happened to Bret Weinstein at Evergreen college:

https://www.youtube.com/w...cMYfxOFBBM

That blond bimbo and her fake 80s hair can suck it.

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Reply #57 posted 05/02/21 10:56am

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2freaky4church1 said:

I noticed how 2Elijah and jj ducked slavery in Africa. I guess they think it is good there but not here.

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What about slavery in Sandi Arabia? Are you not aware that some Indian men and women [from India] have been kidnapped and have been used as slave labor by the Sardis on an underground level for years?

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It's not just a few African countries that are involved in the 21st century slave trade.

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Reply #58 posted 05/02/21 10:58am

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My man:

https://www.youtube.com/w...aEYVlGu1ng

They called the black girl white. lol. My main source. Burn. He's black.

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Reply #59 posted 05/02/21 10:59am

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jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:


Liar. There you go again, trying to think for us and out words in our mouths.

You’re a regular trumpian now.

You’re so jealous of Black Americans that you have to find reasons to lie about us. Is that why you’re extremely obsessed with us? You must be real, damn lonely. You can’t keep mine or JJ’s usernames out of your mouth. popcorn


Well, it’s obvious we’ve become an obsession of his.
I don’t know whether to be flattered or scared or creeped out

Let’s see what he’s going to say about what all Black Americans had for breakfast, lunch and will have for dinner today. He’s angry because he got his ass handed to him, and it wasn’t on a silver plate. His application to dictate to Black Americans on how they should/think/act/breathe was denied. I’m just laughing at all the bs from the complainers I just scrolled past. Makes for a good comedy. coffee couch

Just remember JJ, whenever there is a thread on racism in America, police brutality against the Black community or racial profiling... be prepared for all the ‘deflection/segways/and dismissive’ responses and attacks, because how dare we expose America’s dirty little secrets. wink
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