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Thread started 04/25/21 9:49am

2freaky4church
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Before George Floyd there was Tony Timpa. White victim.

Video is graphic. Tony Timpa, a gentleman who is obviously mentally ill, gets killed and mocked by Dallas Police, who laugh at him, even dead:

https://www.youtube.com/w...c-E_i8Q5G0

Note BLM said not a peep. The media was largely silent.

Tony does not resist one iota and had no criminal record. Here is his distraught mother:

https://www.youtube.com/w...HZWYtGlF6U

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 04/25/21 9:50am

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Justice should be for us all.

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Reply #2 posted 04/25/21 11:14am

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Why don’t YOU start a WLM and lead a protest?
No one is stopping you
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Reply #3 posted 04/25/21 12:18pm

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"Before George Floyd".....I see what you're trying to do here. Why don't you just start a White Lives Matter chapter in your community and keep George Floyd's name out of your mouth. Why do the mods allow this stuff on here??????

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Reply #4 posted 04/25/21 1:40pm

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Freaky, this is your worst post yet. Your progression to far right race politics is complete.

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This was 5 years ago and not a peep from you either - Until it was raised by far right websites to push a lack of justice for all response to George Floyd's decision.

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Reply #5 posted 04/25/21 1:51pm

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IanRG said:

Freaky, this is your worst post yet. Your progression to far right race politics is complete.


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This was 5 years ago and not a peep from you either - Until it was raised by far right websites to push a lack of justice for all response to George Floyd's decision.




You’re right Ian, I think the case of Tony Timpa tragedy is suddenly being raised only because there are some who are not happy Chauvin got convicted. I don’t believe they would have brought it up if Chauvin got away with it, because where were those same folks doing this comparison, when the tragedy with Timpa happened, and why were they not out there in the media raising hell about it? So now they are just ‘using’ Timpa to air their own anger over Chauvin being convicted. Smh.

It’s like the comments I’ve recently seen on social media, with some using the usual ‘Black-on-Black’ crime tactic vs police killing Blacks. I always expect to see these types of attacks, from those who support bad police killing unarmed Blacks, so not surprised.
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Reply #6 posted 04/25/21 2:10pm

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2elijah said:

IanRG said:

Freaky, this is your worst post yet. Your progression to far right race politics is complete.

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This was 5 years ago and not a peep from you either - Until it was raised by far right websites to push a lack of justice for all response to George Floyd's decision.

I think he’s turned far right as well. It’s almost like there is some jealousy towards George Floyd getting justice. Smh. [Edited 4/25/21 13:57pm]

The mods need to lock this thread. This is ridiculous.

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Reply #7 posted 04/25/21 2:17pm

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The Loony Left and the Loony Right are not that far apart...
Fanaticism is the enemy of rational thinking
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Reply #8 posted 04/25/21 2:28pm

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The Loony Left and the Loony Right are not that far apart... Fanaticism is the enemy of rational thinking

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Agreed. I have long thought of the political continuum as not a 1-dimensional line between the two extremists but as a nearly complete 2-dimensional circle where the two extremes bend down so they nearly meet at the bottom. Where the impacts on lives from the totalitarianism or authoritarianism in Nazism and Stalinism are similar despite the different paths to get this point.

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Reply #9 posted 04/25/21 2:46pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Justice should be for us all.

By "us" to you mean for Freddie Gray, Breonna Taylor and Eric Garner where none of the cops involved were imprisoned for those deaths????????? [Flame snip - luv4u]

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Reply #10 posted 04/25/21 6:02pm

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The problem is not enough people being fed up enough to stop making excuses for bad cops.
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Reply #11 posted 04/25/21 6:25pm

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The problem is not enough people being fed up enough to stop making excuses for bad cops.

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Or people who are only too happy for the police to be violent against others so long as it is not against them. This is whether it is against people of that other race/ethnic group, class, location, circumstance, or if they have a mental handicap, a drug problem etc.

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Too many see the increasing miltarisation of police as just being tough on law and order and that the increasing targeted violence by police is a good thing despite the fact that most crime rates have been in long term falls.

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Reply #12 posted 04/25/21 10:37pm

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IanRG said:



jjhunsecker said:


The Loony Left and the Loony Right are not that far apart... Fanaticism is the enemy of rational thinking

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Agreed. I have long thought of the political continuum as not a 1-dimensional line between the two extremists but as a nearly complete 2-dimensional circle where the two extremes bend down so they nearly meet at the bottom. Where the impacts on lives from the totalitarianism or authoritarianism in Nazism and Stalinism are similar despite the different paths to get this point.



I never thought we would see Freaky sounding just like Tucker Carlson, but here’s the evidence
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Reply #13 posted 04/25/21 10:48pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Why don’t YOU start a WLM and lead a protest? No one is stopping you

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MEMO: It already exist. It's call All Lives Matter [ALW]! lurking

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Reply #14 posted 04/26/21 6:04am

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I see the loony center are being delusional about their own fanaticism again.

"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, we're anti-violence, we're anti-racist and we're pro-creative. We're against ignorance."
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Reply #15 posted 04/26/21 6:49am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Justice should be for us all.


You do realize you live in America right? Since when was there ‘justice ‘for all?’ What do you think some groups have been fighting for all these years? Smh.
What exactly is your point, because I could present a very, very, long list of names of police brutality victims, who were murdered by bad cops long before the two victims you mentioned were killed by bad cops.
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Reply #17 posted 04/26/21 7:15am

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IanRG said:

Freaky, this is your worst post yet. Your progression to far right race politics is complete.


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This was 5 years ago and not a peep from you either - Until it was raised by far right websites to push a lack of justice for all response to George Floyd's decision.


I was wondering why he brought this case up now and compared it to George Floyd.
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Reply #18 posted 04/26/21 7:29am

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You liberals are hilarious. Talk about helping the right!

I'm like Mr. Anti-cop...lol. Too much Joy Reid and other race reductionists.

How is caring about a victim being far right? The right tend to always defend the cops. Tucker Carlson also is against certain forms of Capitalism, big whoop. He has on Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, not righties.

jj and 2Elijah are basically saying they are glad Timpa got killed. Awful lack of humanity.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #19 posted 04/26/21 7:30am

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Ian, I am against race politics, burn.

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Reply #20 posted 04/26/21 7:31am

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Didn't know about the case, because media didn't care. Or Hannah Sizer. Another victim jj hates.

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Reply #21 posted 04/26/21 8:00am

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Didn't know about the case, because media didn't care. Or Hannah Sizer. Another victim jj hates.


That’s not true, because I heard about it because it was in the media. I think what you’re really trying to say, is that it wasn’t discussed here, and making it a tit-for-tat situation out of tragedies, and that’s not right.

If you want it discussed here, as an individual situation, all you have to do is create a thread about it to discuss that particular situation. Not every, single tragedy about Blacks murdered by cops have been discussed here, but I’m sure you know that.

About that accusation you made towards JJ, well I’m sure he can defend himself about it, so you’ll just have to wait for his response.
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2freaky4church1 said:

You liberals are hilarious. Talk about helping the right!



I'm like Mr. Anti-cop...lol. Too much Joy Reid and other race reductionists.



How is caring about a victim being far right? The right tend to always defend the cops. Tucker Carlson also is against certain forms of Capitalism, big whoop. He has on Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, not righties.



jj and 2Elijah are basically saying they are glad Timpa got killed. Awful lack of humanity.



I never said any such thing (and to the best of my knowledge 2E hasn’t either)
So essentially what you are claiming we said is a LIE

I’m trying to understand why you are trying to stir shit up..,
I’ll give you a bit of advice: Don’t do it. You won’t like the outcome
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Reply #23 posted 04/26/21 8:47am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Didn't know about the case, because media didn't care. Or Hannah Sizer. Another victim jj hates.


I never heard of this case, so how could I “hate” this person?
Are you on medication? Have you taken it?
Because you’re pretty much talking out of your head, and not making any logical sense
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Reply #24 posted 04/26/21 8:48am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Ian, I am against race politics, burn.



I don’t have the luxury of being “against race politics “
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jaawwnn said:

I see the loony center are being delusional about their own fanaticism again.



“Excess leads to madness “ - Shakespeare

Fanatics never know that they are fanatics
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Reply #26 posted 04/26/21 9:41am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You liberals are hilarious. Talk about helping the right!



I'm like Mr. Anti-cop...lol. Too much Joy Reid and other race reductionists.



How is caring about a victim being far right? The right tend to always defend the cops. Tucker Carlson also is against certain forms of Capitalism, big whoop. He has on Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, not righties.



jj and 2Elijah are basically saying they are glad Timpa got killed. Awful lack of humanity.



Too much Joy Reid and race reductionists? Yet you start a thread comparing a White person vs Black person being killed by cops, and accusing certain people of
of not caring about the death of one? Smh.

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Why are you making up these lies/false accusations about me and JJ? Why are you slandering us? Who said we didn’t care about Timpa being killed by a bad cop? Please stop making up lies just to cause disruption or angry because our responses doesn’t fit your agenda.

And by the way, you may be anti-cop, but I’m against ‘bad/racist’ cops. I’m not against good cops. There’s a difference.
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jjhunsecker said:

jaawwnn said:

I see the loony center are being delusional about their own fanaticism again.

“Excess leads to madness “ - Shakespeare Fanatics never know that they are fanatics [Edited 4/26/21 9:15am]

I agree.

"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, we're anti-violence, we're anti-racist and we're pro-creative. We're against ignorance."
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Reply #28 posted 04/26/21 10:52am

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Who do cops over police? Poor people. Blacks are the big part of that content. But cops go after all poor people. Class is the main issue, race being a part of it. Obviously Chauven was a huge racist. His dimeanor proved that. The pigs who killed Timpa did it because of class and they hate mentally ill people. Timpa's cops got off, how odd.

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Reply #29 posted 04/26/21 12:46pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

You liberals are hilarious. Talk about helping the right!

I'm like Mr. Anti-cop...lol. Too much Joy Reid and other race reductionists.

How is caring about a victim being far right? The right tend to always defend the cops. Tucker Carlson also is against certain forms of Capitalism, big whoop. He has on Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, not righties.

jj and 2Elijah are basically saying they are glad Timpa got killed. Awful lack of humanity.

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There is nothing wrong with helping the right or helping the left if what you are doing is right. This is the problem of extremists who target those who are not fanatics. There is no right and left, there is only right and wrong. There is nothing sacred about being true to an extremist ideology - It just becomes an excuse for people to think that all those who don't agree with them are opposed to them - especially those who are not ideologically pure enough, the ordinary people in the centre.

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If any politician or political movement makes a good decision or stands for a good change or to protect a good thing, then they are right and should be helped, regardless of which side of politics they come from. This is the difference between the fanatic and the humane. No one expressed anything that could be interpreted as if they are glad a person was killed 5 years ago. No one thinks that bad policing is only against one race - it is just disproportionally against certain races even within people of the same socio-economic group or circumstance.

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Tony Timpa's story is very sad but he was not targetted because of his race. This is not black victims vs white victims issue - it is a mental health issue. People with mental health issues are treated poorly by society regardless of colour. We could flood this forum with an individual thread about each individual who were victims of bad policing and change nothing. The issue here is the title and the poke at organisations seeking to end the disproportionate systemic violent racism in policing. If there is any awful lack of humanity in this thread, it is in the use of dead person ignored for 5 years and only brought up to push a political agenda today. That agenda of denying systemic racism in policing and criminal justice tends to be by the far right.

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