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Reply #180 posted 05/16/21 1:52pm

IanRG

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Silly. 2Elijah knows all my sources are black scholars. No right winger among them.

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So what race are the following sources you used here: Chomsky (Reply #55) and George Fredrickson (Reply #63)?

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What politics does Candace Owens (Reply #54) adhere to?

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Reply #181 posted 05/16/21 2:05pm

IanRG

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First we have members of the GOP in many states drunk with trumpism, by promoting lies as truth, and spinning the insurrectionists as ‘peaceful patriots.’ And now we have some pushing bs by trying to replace the reality of racism with classism. Smh. And anyone who believes that members in the KKK don’t hate Blacks, is living in their own delusion. Let’s not forget racial discrimination laws were intentionally created to deny Blacks equal freedom and opportunities, based on their racial identity. Let’s also not forget segregation was about division based on racial identity, not class. [Edited 5/15/21 19:39pm]

SeventeenDayze said:

Exactly. Nobody was lynched because they were poor.....the delusions. This is why it's important to monitor school curriculum because there are people itching to insert revisionist history into the narrative.

2freaky4church1 said:

Whites were lynched, fail.

At this point you are either trolling or embarrassing yourself.

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The statement was about the KKK lynching people because of race hate and NOT because the person was poor.

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That white people were lynched for crimes or other hates does not mean the KKK lynched black people or people that supported black people because of their class. That is just a deceptive rewriting of history to support an extremist view.

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Reply #182 posted 05/16/21 2:18pm

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Doesn't 2E say that Candace Owens is a bad example of a bad black person? Because she is.


Stop it ‘Tucker’.

Where did I say that? Bad Black person? Seriously whatever you’re drinking throw it down the drain.

MMy view of Candace is that she plays into white supremacy bs, and is nothing but a tool and a puppet they use, because she says ignorant, stereotyped bs about people from her own racial group, to appease to the racists who believe the bs she does. They accept the negative bs she feeds them about Blacks because she plays into the hate they already hold towards Blacks.

Yet she wouldn’t qualify to be a member of their racist club.
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Reply #183 posted 05/16/21 2:20pm

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IanRG said:






2elijah said:


First we have members of the GOP in many states drunk with trumpism, by promoting lies as truth, and spinning the insurrectionists as ‘peaceful patriots.’ And now we have some pushing bs by trying to replace the reality of racism with classism. Smh. And anyone who believes that members in the KKK don’t hate Blacks, is living in their own delusion. Let’s not forget racial discrimination laws were intentionally created to deny Blacks equal freedom and opportunities, based on their racial identity. Let’s also not forget segregation was about division based on racial identity, not class. [Edited 5/15/21 19:39pm]


SeventeenDayze said:



Exactly. Nobody was lynched because they were poor.....the delusions. This is why it's important to monitor school curriculum because there are people itching to insert revisionist history into the narrative.




2freaky4church1 said:



Whites were lynched, fail.


At this point you are either trolling or embarrassing yourself.


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The statement was about the KKK lynching people because of race hate and NOT because the person was poor.


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That white people were lynched for crimes or other hates does not mean the KKK lynched black people or people that supported black people because of their class. That is just a deceptive rewriting of history to support an extremist view.


Yes very deceptive, just like many members of the GOP trying to rewrite American history.
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Reply #184 posted 05/16/21 2:24pm

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2elijah said:

SeventeenDayze said:



2elijah said:


First we have members of the GOP in many states drunk with trumpism, by promoting lies as truth, and spinning the insurrectionists as ‘peaceful patriots.’ And now we have some pushing bs by trying to replace the reality of racism with classism. Smh. And anyone who believes that members in the KKK don’t hate Blacks, is living in their own delusion. Let’s not forget racial discrimination laws were intentionally created to deny Blacks equal freedom and opportunities, based on their racial identity. Let’s also not forget segregation was about division based on racial identity, not class. [Edited 5/15/21 19:39pm]

Exactly. Nobody was lynched because they were poor.....the delusions. This is why it's important to monitor school curriculum because there are people itching to insert revisionist history into the narrative.


That’s why nobody is falling for 2freak’s bs. He’s the Tucker Carlson of this forum now. He hates that many Black Americans call out the racism n this country, and nothing he says or do will stop that from happening.

Remember how he would always post threads telling Black Americans how they should think, vote for and act, as though he was telling us what ‘our’ place should be in this country? Never trusted anything he posted/posts. He’s just all about causing division in this forum and stirring up chaos. Only a person bored with their lives would do that.

Right now he’s probably searching google to find any stories about Blacks that have any kind of negativity attached to it, to fit his agenda, as though all Blacks should have the same views about everything.
Don’t fall for it.
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I said that before: how much he echoes the Carlson/Hannity/Ingraham Fox world view that racism is essentially a thing of the past, and anyone who mentions it today is “playing victim “ or is “woke” or “in a bubble “.

To reiterate: lunatics on the Left and lunatics on the Right are not as far apart as they try to make out
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Reply #185 posted 05/16/21 2:25pm

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I'm starting to have my own doubts about Candace, especially after her interview with Katie Hopkins.

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Reply #186 posted 05/16/21 2:29pm

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Doesn't 2E say that Candace Owens is a bad example of a bad black person? Because she is.


Stop it ‘Tucker’.

Where did I say that? Bad Black person? Seriously whatever you’re drinking throw it down the drain.

MMy view of Candace is that she plays into white supremacy bs, and is nothing but a tool and a puppet they use, because she says ignorant, stereotyped bs about people from her own racial group, to appease to the racists who believe the bs she does. They accept the negative bs she feeds them about Blacks because she plays into the hate they already hold towards Blacks.

Yet she wouldn’t qualify to be a member of their racist club.
[Edited 5/16/21 14:23pm]


Candace found a hustle that has brought her (relative) fame and fortune
And she might have psychological issues that she needs to work out as well
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Reply #187 posted 05/16/21 3:57pm

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Oddly I kind of have a problem with white people. lol

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Reply #188 posted 05/17/21 6:34am

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2elijah said:


That’s why nobody is falling for 2freak’s bs. He’s the Tucker Carlson of this forum now. He hates that many Black Americans call out the racism n this country, and nothing he says or do will stop that from happening.

Remember how he would always post threads telling Black Americans how they should think, vote for and act, as though he was telling us what ‘our’ place should be in this country? Never trusted anything he posted/posts. He’s just all about causing division in this forum and stirring up chaos. Only a person bored with their lives would do that.

Right now he’s probably searching google to find any stories about Blacks that have any kind of negativity attached to it, to fit his agenda, as though all Blacks should have the same views about everything.
Don’t fall for it.
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I said that before: how much he echoes the Carlson/Hannity/Ingraham Fox world view that racism is essentially a thing of the past, and anyone who mentions it today is “playing victim “ or is “woke” or “in a bubble “.

To reiterate: lunatics on the Left and lunatics on the Right are not as far apart as they try to make out

Have many of those typical types right here in this thread and forum.

Their same, old denial game, in which when someone with self-imposed guilt convinces themselves, that anyone who exposes the horrific, barbaric truths about America’s history or present-day institutional racism, must be all that you mentioned above.

That’s when you know those ugly truths/facts exposed, triggers an uncomfortable conscience of the ‘deniers’ who then turns the tables, by convincing themselves that the exposer of said truths/facts is just ‘playing victim’. Lol

I guess ‘truth’ cuts the conscience like the sharp edge of a sword.
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Reply #189 posted 05/17/21 11:30am

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You have to have facts first.

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Reply #190 posted 05/17/21 12:42pm

IanRG

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You have to have facts first.

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Right back at you.

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Reply #191 posted 05/17/21 12:55pm

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You have to have facts first.


Something you lack.
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Reply #192 posted 05/17/21 10:41pm

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IanRG said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Whites were lynched, fail.

At this point you are either trolling or embarrassing yourself.

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The statement was about the KKK lynching people because of race hate and NOT because the person was poor.

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That white people were lynched for crimes or other hates does not mean the KKK lynched black people or people that supported black people because of their class. That is just a deceptive rewriting of history to support an extremist view.

He's doing the old tired tactic in that response as he did when he started this thread. Dig around for an example of when "it happened to white people" in order to diminish and deny that black people were targeted by terrorist mobs who lynched black people.

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Reply #193 posted 05/17/21 10:45pm

SeventeenDayze

2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:
I said that before: how much he echoes the Carlson/Hannity/Ingraham Fox world view that racism is essentially a thing of the past, and anyone who mentions it today is “playing victim “ or is “woke” or “in a bubble “. To reiterate: lunatics on the Left and lunatics on the Right are not as far apart as they try to make out
Have many of those typical types right here in this thread and forum. Their same, old denial game, in which when someone with self-imposed guilt convinces themselves, that anyone who exposes the horrific, barbaric truths about America’s history or present-day institutional racism, must be all that you mentioned above. That’s when you know those ugly truths/facts exposed, triggers an uncomfortable conscience of the ‘deniers’ who then turns the tables, by convincing themselves that the exposer of said truths/facts is just ‘playing victim’. Lol I guess ‘truth’ cuts the conscience like the sharp edge of a sword. [Edited 5/17/21 6:37am]

They want black people to "forget" our 400 year history in this country because it makes a lot of whites feel uncomfortable. Meanwhile, most history textbooks used in schools are focused on white history and is taught from a white perspective....but the kicker is that any discussion of race automatically make people feel like they are being "attacked" for even making an attemp to discuss it. The response is to stonewall, deny and shut it down and say "it's over and it's in the past, get over it"....pretty messed up

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Reply #194 posted 05/18/21 11:49am

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Our 400 what? You were not alive 400 years ago. They were. They are they you are you. You cannot link yourself with other people because of just color. I have nothing in common with whites in 1880. lol I'm me and individual who happens to be white. I refuse to be your white man. lol

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Reply #195 posted 05/18/21 11:50am

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SeventeenDayze said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:
I said that before: how much he echoes the Carlson/Hannity/Ingraham Fox world view that racism is essentially a thing of the past, and anyone who mentions it today is “playing victim “ or is “woke” or “in a bubble “. To reiterate: lunatics on the Left and lunatics on the Right are not as far apart as they try to make out

Have many of those typical types right here in this thread and forum. Their same, old denial game, in which when someone with self-imposed guilt convinces themselves, that anyone who exposes the horrific, barbaric truths about America’s history or present-day institutional racism, must be all that you mentioned above. That’s when you know those ugly truths/facts exposed, triggers an uncomfortable conscience of the ‘deniers’ who then turns the tables, by convincing themselves that the exposer of said truths/facts is just ‘playing victim’. Lol I guess ‘truth’ cuts the conscience like the sharp edge of a sword. [Edited 5/17/21 6:37am]

They want black people to "forget" our 400 year history in this country because it makes a lot of whites feel uncomfortable. Meanwhile, most history textbooks used in schools are focused on white history and is taught from a white perspective....but the kicker is that any discussion of race automatically make people feel like they are being "attacked" for even making an attemp to discuss it. The response is to stonewall, deny and shut it down and say "it's over and it's in the past, get over it"....pretty messed up




And yet with real life, racist incidents like still happening, like in the real estate business for example, they will still deny it has anything to do with race. Smh.

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Reply #196 posted 05/18/21 11:50am

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If cops were just racist they would kill zero others.

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Reply #197 posted 05/18/21 1:22pm

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If cops were just racist they would kill zero others.



That’s a totally illogical statement
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Reply #198 posted 05/18/21 1:31pm

IanRG

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If cops were just racist they would kill zero others.

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This is such a silly statement. It is a pointless hypothetical that imagines a fictious situation where the sole reason for the police to exist is to be racist.

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It would be as silly saying that if class was the only issue, the police would only police the poor.

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Reply #199 posted 05/18/21 1:42pm

IanRG

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Our 400 what? You were not alive 400 years ago. They were. They are they you are you. You cannot link yourself with other people because of just color. I have nothing in common with whites in 1880. lol I'm me and individual who happens to be white. I refuse to be your white man. lol

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You really need to start thinking before you post. You cannot dismiss history just because it is inconvenient for your intenrional ignornance on racism.

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Class privilege relies on history.

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Imperialism and colonisation relies on denying occupied people their history, culture and language

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A key point in who you are is because of your history. A key point in why there is systemic racism is this is the impact of history.

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Reply #200 posted 05/18/21 3:32pm

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Reply #201 posted 05/18/21 3:34pm

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Our 400 what? You were not alive 400 years ago. They were. They are they you are you. You cannot link yourself with other people because of just color. I have nothing in common with whites in 1880. lol I'm me and individual who happens to be white. I refuse to be your white man. lol



Don’t impose your self guilt on us, just because we tell the truth about America’s history. You really think you can just erase such a horrific history? That history is real. It’s documented. It happened. That just doesn’t include the enslavement of Africans/Black Americans, but also the removal of Native Americans, who were also enslaved, abused, tortured, murdered and transported to the Caribbean and other parts of the world, during the transatlantic slavery era. All facts.

So you’re telling the living descendants, of Africans/Black Americans who were enslaved in the past, and with most of us carrying European surnames today, that we have nothing to do with those ancestors who were enslaved in this country? It’s because of those who ‘survived’ slavery is why many Black Americans are here today.

I really want to know what the hell you’re smoking. Smh.
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Reply #202 posted 05/18/21 11:37pm

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Our 400 what? You were not alive 400 years ago. They were. They are they you are you. You cannot link yourself with other people because of just color. I have nothing in common with whites in 1880. lol I'm me and individual who happens to be white. I refuse to be your white man. lol

Don’t impose your self guilt on us, just because we tell the truth about America’s history. You really think you can just erase such a horrific history? That history is real. It’s documented. It happened. That just doesn’t include the enslavement of Africans/Black Americans, but also the removal of Native Americans, who were also enslaved, abused, tortured, murdered and transported to the Caribbean and other parts of the world, during the transatlantic slavery era. All facts. So you’re telling the living descendants, of Africans/Black Americans who were enslaved in the past, and with most of us carrying European surnames today, that we have nothing to do with those ancestors who were enslaved in this country? It’s because of those who ‘survived’ slavery is why many Black Americans are here today. I really want to know what the hell you’re smoking. Smh. [Edited 5/18/21 16:26pm]

The whole pretext of this thread is to "Remember" a "victim" that was "before George Floyd"....and yet tells me that I wasn't alive 400 years ago so I have nothing in common with them despite color and then has the audacity to say it's just like him and his ancestors....Wow. He is white supremacy and racism personified. He should go play in traffic while listening to Family Name

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Reply #203 posted 05/20/21 2:43pm

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The Loony Left and the Loony Right are not that far apart... Fanaticism is the enemy of rational thinking

There's a term for it...it's called the "horseshoe theory"

I don't argue with people about my opinions. Scram. I said what I said.
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Reply #204 posted 05/21/21 1:20pm

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I read about that history way before anybody here has. Remember George Fredrickson? They were slaves, you were not. The bloodline myth is strate race science.

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Reply #205 posted 05/21/21 4:09pm

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I read about that history way before anybody here has. Remember George Fredrickson? They were slaves, you were not. The bloodline myth is strate race science.



You sound like you need a straightjacket
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Reply #206 posted 05/21/21 4:15pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

I read about that history way before anybody here has. Remember George Fredrickson? They were slaves, you were not. The bloodline myth is strate race science.

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Then there is the "I am better than you people, so you should listen me" myth.

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Reply #207 posted 05/21/21 4:23pm

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IanRG said:



2freaky4church1 said:


I read about that history way before anybody here has. Remember George Fredrickson? They were slaves, you were not. The bloodline myth is strate race science.



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Then there is the "I am better than you people, so you should listen me" myth.



He’s very paternalistic
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Reply #208 posted 05/22/21 7:58am

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Note they duck every fact.

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Reply #209 posted 05/22/21 11:16am

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AnnaSantana said:



jjhunsecker said:


The Loony Left and the Loony Right are not that far apart... Fanaticism is the enemy of rational thinking


There's a term for it...it's called the "horseshoe theory"



So you see a self described “anarchist” saying the exact same things about racism as Limbaugh and Hannity and Megyn Kelly
Maybe he’ll be defending Blackface next
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