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Reply #30 posted 04/19/21 7:43am

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TweetyV6 said:

jaawwnn said:


IIRC you are a free-market fundamentalist who values high GDP and growth way over human life so your position is understandable, you want that money moving again.


It has nothing to do with that.
a) fatality rates are not excessive

b) the vast majority of those who die have an age at wich you might expect them to die.
(e.g.: the Netherlands Average life expectancy is 83.3 yrs, the median age of people dying with Covid-19 is 83.7 yrs)

Governments aren't talking about deaths anymore, the narrative hase changed to keeping the health care system up & running.

Similar to what happend in the climate bullshit.
First it was global warming, but when data showed global warming wasn't happening as predicted, the narrative changed to 'Climate Change' (what ever that may be, it still hasn't been defined)

Literally not what happened but don't let me stop you posting your water vapour graphs.

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Reply #31 posted 04/19/21 8:27am

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jaawwnn said:

TweetyV6 said:


It has nothing to do with that.
a) fatality rates are not excessive

b) the vast majority of those who die have an age at wich you might expect them to die.
(e.g.: the Netherlands Average life expectancy is 83.3 yrs, the median age of people dying with Covid-19 is 83.7 yrs)

Governments aren't talking about deaths anymore, the narrative hase changed to keeping the health care system up & running.

Similar to what happend in the climate bullshit.
First it was global warming, but when data showed global warming wasn't happening as predicted, the narrative changed to 'Climate Change' (what ever that may be, it still hasn't been defined)

Literally not what happened but don't let me stop you posting your water vapour graphs.


Exactly what happened.
The average of the CMIP5 models is about +0.50 degrees per decade warming.
The actual data show +0.16 degrees per decade.

It happened when 'the pause' became a topic in the 'global warming' discussion.
RSS (sattellite temperature data) showed no warming and no cooling between January 1997 and August 2015.

The term 'Global Warming' (which now could be debunked by actual data) was pushed aside and replaced with 'Climate Change' which obviously noone can deny, because the climate isn't a stable system or entity, it's highly chaotic and therfore constantly subject to changes.
No place on earth has had the same climate since it came into existance.

climate-narrative-names.png?resize=720%2C432&ssl=1


Same crap is happening now, where hardly any people die from Covid-19 anymore.
It's not so much anymore about people dying, it's about keeping the healthcare system up & running.

[Edited 4/19/21 8:30am]

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Reply #32 posted 04/19/21 8:30am

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Our science truther. lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #33 posted 04/19/21 3:07pm

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TweetyV6 said:

jaawwnn said:

Literally not what happened but don't let me stop you posting your water vapour graphs.


Exactly what happened.
The average of the CMIP5 models is about +0.50 degrees per decade warming.
The actual data show +0.16 degrees per decade.

It happened when 'the pause' became a topic in the 'global warming' discussion.
RSS (sattellite temperature data) showed no warming and no cooling between January 1997 and August 2015.

The term 'Global Warming' (which now could be debunked by actual data) was pushed aside and replaced with 'Climate Change' which obviously noone can deny, because the climate isn't a stable system or entity, it's highly chaotic and therfore constantly subject to changes.
No place on earth has had the same climate since it came into existance.

climate-narrative-names.png?resize=720%2C432&ssl=1


Same crap is happening now, where hardly any people die from Covid-19 anymore.
It's not so much anymore about people dying, it's about keeping the healthcare system up & running.

[Edited 4/19/21 8:30am]

What does this have to do with the Vaccine Passports? Way off topic.

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Reply #34 posted 04/19/21 4:22pm

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PennyPurple said:



TweetyV6 said:




jaawwnn said:



Literally not what happened but don't let me stop you posting your water vapour graphs.




Exactly what happened.
The average of the CMIP5 models is about +0.50 degrees per decade warming.
The actual data show +0.16 degrees per decade.

It happened when 'the pause' became a topic in the 'global warming' discussion.
RSS (sattellite temperature data) showed no warming and no cooling between January 1997 and August 2015.

The term 'Global Warming' (which now could be debunked by actual data) was pushed aside and replaced with 'Climate Change' which obviously noone can deny, because the climate isn't a stable system or entity, it's highly chaotic and therfore constantly subject to changes.
No place on earth has had the same climate since it came into existance.

climate-narrative-names.png?resize=720%2C432&ssl=1


Same crap is happening now, where hardly any people die from Covid-19 anymore.
It's not so much anymore about people dying, it's about keeping the healthcare system up & running.


[Edited 4/19/21 8:30am]



What does this have to do with the Vaccine Passports? Way off topic.



Not to a “truther”. All these things are wrapped up in int one super conspiracy. They can’t accept that chaos exists or the concept of volatility so anything that requires change must be the lies of some clandestine cabal operating behind the scenes.
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Reply #35 posted 04/20/21 4:20am

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TweetyV6 said:

jaawwnn said:

Literally not what happened but don't let me stop you posting your water vapour graphs.


Exactly what happened.
The average of the CMIP5 models is about +0.50 degrees per decade warming.
The actual data show +0.16 degrees per decade.

It happened when 'the pause' became a topic in the 'global warming' discussion.
RSS (sattellite temperature data) showed no warming and no cooling between January 1997 and August 2015.

The term 'Global Warming' (which now could be debunked by actual data) was pushed aside and replaced with 'Climate Change' which obviously noone can deny, because the climate isn't a stable system or entity, it's highly chaotic and therfore constantly subject to changes.
No place on earth has had the same climate since it came into existance.

climate-narrative-names.png?resize=720%2C432&ssl=1


Same crap is happening now, where hardly any people die from Covid-19 anymore.
It's not so much anymore about people dying, it's about keeping the healthcare system up & running.

[Edited 4/19/21 8:30am]

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Keep fighting that good fight.

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Reply #36 posted 04/20/21 1:06pm

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TweetyV6 said:


climate-narrative-names.png?resize=720%2C432&ssl=1


Same crap is happening now, where hardly any people die from Covid-19 anymore.
It's not so much anymore about people dying, it's about keeping the healthcare system up & running.

[Edited 4/19/21 8:30am]



^ This looks suspiciously like the red text edited weather maps on Piers Corbyn's old twitter page, just a little tidier and without the wavy lines.


The earth has gone through many huge climate changes in the past like the ice age for example. Or the water age, theorized to have been the case couple of billion years ago. Plant life affects the atmosphere. The amount of
Phytoplankton in all the ocean water also affects the climate and the earth's temperature. And that shit you can't even see.

So scientists measure CO2 in parts per million. And this has been steadily rising over the past hundred or so years. That is the effect. So the cause is? The scientists have eliminated every possibility but the increase in emissions from the 2nd industrial revolution onwards. That is the only gamechanging event.

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Reply #37 posted 04/20/21 2:27pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:



TweetyV6 said:



climate-narrative-names.png?resize=720%2C432&ssl=1


Same crap is happening now, where hardly any people die from Covid-19 anymore.
It's not so much anymore about people dying, it's about keeping the healthcare system up & running.


[Edited 4/19/21 8:30am]





^ This looks suspiciously like the red text edited weather maps on Piers Corbyn's old twitter page, just a little tidier and without the wavy lines.





The earth has gone through many huge climate changes in the past like the ice age for example. Or the water age, theorized to have been the case couple of billion years ago. Plant life affects the atmosphere. The amount of
Phytoplankton in all the ocean water also affects the climate and the earth's temperature. And that shit you can't even see.

So scientists measure CO2 in parts per million. And this has been steadily rising over the past hundred or so years. That is the effect. So the cause is? The scientists have eliminated every possibility but the increase in emissions from the 2nd industrial revolution onwards. That is the only gamechanging event.



Don't encourage him! lol
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Reply #38 posted 04/23/21 8:09am

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Masked, microchipped, traced, vaccinated, ready for the slaughterhouse lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

Do you have these in your country?

What do you feel about this for yourself/your country?


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Reply #39 posted 04/23/21 10:52am

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Flo6 said:

Masked, microchipped, traced, vaccinated, ready for the slaughterhouse lol


It's amazing how much freedom people are willing to give up. No one's thought about how the NSA has gotten us all carrying tracking and listening devices, and in a relatively short amount of time. And now they're in our homes, too. Google Home, Amazon Echo, Apple HomePod, Harman Kardon INVOKE, Samsung Bixby, etc.

No one's putting anything in my body that I don't totally consent to, nor do I have any obligation to display my medication history.

We already live in a surveillance police state. I'm not aiding them anymore than I can help it. I swear to fuck if they said, "you need to be handcuffed to someone for a nationwide buddy-system mandate," sales of cuffs would go thru the roof. They'd be decorative, cute, and "designer inspired," just like masks. But a leash with a tortoise shell design is still a leash.

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Reply #40 posted 04/23/21 11:49am

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France becomes the first European country to introduce Digital Health Pass

TIMESOFINDIA.COM|TRAVEL NEWS, FRANCE

France has become the first country in Europe to introduce Digital Health Pass for travel. The much-talked-about concept is being introduced to restart international travel. These digital passes are being trialed on flights to Corsica.

According to local media, the pass will be extended to other international flights later on. The best thing about this is that it can be even used for things like festivals and concerts. But the passes won’t be valid for bars and restaurants.

The pass comes after French President Emmanuel Macron said that he wants to relax travel restrictions on international travel for the summer. It includes fully vaccinated Americans too. Macron told a leading news portal that they wish to "progressively lift the restrictions."

Moving on in future, if anyone gets a COVID-19 test in France, he/she will get a text message or email with access to a state-certified online document. It can be printed or stored in the TousAntiCovid app. It will be the same for those who are fully vaccinated.A secure QR code will be generated by the app.

Didier Reynders, the European commissioner for justice, said that they are expecting "digital green certificate" to be ready for use by June 21.

France becomes the first ...times.com)

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Reply #41 posted 04/23/21 12:50pm

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Covid and flu aren't the same. They are 2 different viruses requiring 2 different vaccines.

Personally I don't think either the vaccine or the passport should be mandatory. I have no sympathy for anyone who gets ill/dies if they refuse a vaccine - they get a Darwin award from me.

But passports should be available and shops/restaurants should be allowed to ask to see them if they wish - not dissimilar to bouncers to keep out the drunks at a club. The market will decide if those shops/restaurants succeed or fail with such a policy.

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Reply #42 posted 04/23/21 1:22pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Flo6 said:

Masked, microchipped, traced, vaccinated, ready for the slaughterhouse lol


It's amazing how much freedom people are willing to give up. No one's thought about how the NSA has gotten us all carrying tracking and listening devices, and in a relatively short amount of time. And now they're in our homes, too. Google Home, Amazon Echo, Apple HomePod, Harman Kardon INVOKE, Samsung Bixby, etc.

No one's putting anything in my body that I don't totally consent to, nor do I have any obligation to display my medication history.

We already live in a surveillance police state. I'm not aiding them anymore than I can help it. I swear to fuck if they said, "you need to be handcuffed to someone for a nationwide buddy-system mandate," sales of cuffs would go thru the roof. They'd be decorative, cute, and "designer inspired," just like masks. But a leash with a tortoise shell design is still a leash.

I've been vaccinated, what freedom did I give up?

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Reply #43 posted 04/23/21 1:40pm

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What freedom did you give up?
The freedom to choose Suicide by Covid?
The freedom to kill others with Covid?

You know, the American dream.
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Reply #44 posted 04/23/21 5:55pm

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"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #45 posted 04/23/21 8:13pm

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Bullshit meme fact checked.


https://www.google.co.nz/...SKBN2872MV

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Reply #46 posted 04/26/21 6:00am

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Things are looking pretty bad in India, has anyone considered telling them that it's actually a hoax and they should just get up and be healthy?

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Reply #47 posted 04/26/21 8:59am

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jaawwnn said:

Things are looking pretty bad in India, has anyone considered telling them that it's actually a hoax and they should just get up and be healthy?

Oh, I'm sure there are many people on this site and around the world that would tell them this whole thing is nothing but hoax. It sickens me that so many do not care how serious this is. Millions are suffering and dying and yet, it's just a hoax or it's just like the flu. Pathetic and disgusting.

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Reply #48 posted 04/26/21 4:42pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Flo6 said:

Masked, microchipped, traced, vaccinated, ready for the slaughterhouse lol


It's amazing how much freedom people are willing to give up. No one's thought about how the NSA has gotten us all carrying tracking and listening devices, and in a relatively short amount of time. And now they're in our homes, too. Google Home, Amazon Echo, Apple HomePod, Harman Kardon INVOKE, Samsung Bixby, etc.

No one's putting anything in my body that I don't totally consent to, nor do I have any obligation to display my medication history.

We already live in a surveillance police state. I'm not aiding them anymore than I can help it. I swear to fuck if they said, "you need to be handcuffed to someone for a nationwide buddy-system mandate," sales of cuffs would go thru the roof. They'd be decorative, cute, and "designer inspired," just like masks. But a leash with a tortoise shell design is still a leash.

have we had a flu season in 2020?

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Reply #49 posted 04/26/21 8:35pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

TrivialPursuit said:


It's amazing how much freedom people are willing to give up. No one's thought about how the NSA has gotten us all carrying tracking and listening devices, and in a relatively short amount of time. And now they're in our homes, too. Google Home, Amazon Echo, Apple HomePod, Harman Kardon INVOKE, Samsung Bixby, etc.

No one's putting anything in my body that I don't totally consent to, nor do I have any obligation to display my medication history.

We already live in a surveillance police state. I'm not aiding them anymore than I can help it. I swear to fuck if they said, "you need to be handcuffed to someone for a nationwide buddy-system mandate," sales of cuffs would go thru the roof. They'd be decorative, cute, and "designer inspired," just like masks. But a leash with a tortoise shell design is still a leash.

have we had a flu season in 2020?


Maybe? I suppose we did. I've never had it to my knowledge. The last time I had a flu shot, I was 19 years old.

By the way, for whoever - getting a shot is not giving up your freedom. I never said that. Blindly doing what a government, who doesn't really give a shit about you anyway, tells you to do is giving up your freedom. I can put numbers from the CDC in front of people and it's a barage of "Yeah, but..." or just plain ignoring it. Folks can't think for themselves and just take a moment to look and think, "Huh... lemme look at that again. Maybe it's not nearly as bad as the media is painting it."

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Reply #50 posted 04/28/21 6:19am

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The Truth About 'Vaccine ... - YouTube

The Truth About 'Vaccine Passports'

Paul Joseph Watson
1.88M subscribers
Social credit score via the back door?

https://youtu.be/xcmZG0H4HzE

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Reply #51 posted 04/28/21 6:22am

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Oldfriends are you really, actually, posting Paul Joseph Watson videos in here?

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Reply #52 posted 04/28/21 6:49am

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jaawwnn said:

Oldfriends are you really, actually, posting Paul Joseph Watson videos in here?

I think I'm posting everything on what people are saying about these passports.

I think when we try to censor everything, we don't hear or understand what is out there. So when let's say your brother or Aunt brings something to you, and you haven't heard it, not know where they got it from, then it creates a sense of 'fear' 'apprehension' or 'hopelessness' when it comes to information.


If I post only the 'acceptable' links/posts/vids etc then are we really hearing 'everything'

So how/why I post (I've tried to explain this years before, I just don't anymore) comes from 'that' place.

fyi I'm also trying to keep the thread on topic, good or bad, like or not, let's just put it out there

because none of us 'know' the full truth

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Reply #53 posted 04/28/21 7:09am

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I am not calling for censorship, i'm just surprised you're going that far down the alt-right wormhole for your news.

Anyway, here's a piece arguing probably the same thing as him:

Vaccine Passports Could B...vara Media


[Edited 4/28/21 7:18am]

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Reply #54 posted 04/28/21 7:26am

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jaawwnn said:

I am not calling for censorship, i'm just surprised you're going that far down the alt-right wormhole for your news.

Anyway, here's a piece arguing probably the same thing as him:

Vaccine Passports Could B...vara Media


[Edited 4/28/21 7:18am]

I'm not going down any hole for my news. I don't even know who the guy is.

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Reply #55 posted 04/28/21 11:22am

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Where are all those Flu passports for the last 50 years or more? Eh? Just 25 years then, since we've had technology at our fingertips in a new way? Why now with something that doesn't even kill 2% of the people it infects?! It's stupid to consider a vaccine passport as a valid option for anyone who otherwise wouldn't put their medical history on display. But like I said... giving up freedoms one by one seems to be perfectly logical to the sheeple.

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Reply #56 posted 04/28/21 11:22am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



jaawwnn said:


I am not calling for censorship, i'm just surprised you're going that far down the alt-right wormhole for your news.

Anyway, here's a piece arguing probably the same thing as him:

Vaccine Passports Could B...vara Media




[Edited 4/28/21 7:18am]




I'm not going down any hole for my news. I don't even know who the guy is.



That’s the problem. When you post information without comment, it’s an endorsement and just chucking it out there without any kind of vetting is not an excuse. To
Argue that it’s in the name of balance is an equivalency fallacy and why it’s why schools don’t give time to flat earthism in geography classes.

You don’t know who he his. Neither did I but it took 3 seconds to find out. Is this what you want to be sharing here when there’s already so much misinformation around this that is affecting our chances of getting on top of this pandemic?

Can we expect you to share sans comment or context, Alex Jones and Q Anon next in the name of “balance”?

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...eph_Watson
“ Paul Joseph Watson (born 24 May 1982)[1] is a British right-wing YouTuber, radio host, writer and conspiracy theorist whose views have often been qualified as anti-feminist and politically extremist.[3][4][5][6] Up until July 2016, Watson concurred with his alt-right label, but has since dropped the label and now self-identifies as being part of the new right.[7] Despite the change, he is still understood to be a far-right individual by multiple sources.[6][8][9][10][11][12] In May 2019, Facebook and Instagram permanently banned Watson for violation of hate speech policies.[13][14]”

https://www.nationalobser...ebooks-ban

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Reply #57 posted 04/28/21 11:26am

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No it isn't.

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If I'm posting opposing ideas, different ideas, then by that logic I'm endorsing everything.

I'm not. Leave it as I said. Don't create static where this is none.

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Moderators are not 'leaders' 'preachers' 'teachers' 'babysitters'
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Reply #58 posted 04/28/21 11:48am

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No it isn't.


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If I'm posting opposing ideas, different ideas, then by that logic I'm endorsing everything.


I'm not. Leave it as I said. Don't create static where this is none.


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Moderators are not 'leaders' 'preachers' 'teachers' 'babysitters'
the ORG is 99% for PRINCE, not the rest of these forums



“Moderators are not 'leaders' 'preachers' 'teachers”


SNIP -of4$
MOVE ON.
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Reply #59 posted 04/28/21 11:56am

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lust about to get it.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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