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Reply #30 posted 04/06/21 2:47pm

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You got that right! I’m going to give my opinion and not worry if people find it acceptable or not. And you’re absolutely right: How is someone like Candace Owens saying Black people who don’t think like her are “stuck on the plantation “, like ignorant slaves, how is THAT not a “race based slur” ? But if you keep mining the same stale material over and over again, after awhile it just becomes noise and nothing worthy of attention
She says things like that all the time, and many racist, right wingers love it. She knocks herself out appeasing their already, ingrained, ignorant, stereotyped racist beliefs of Black Americans. And she wonders why so many Black Americans don’t go over to her side. You’d think as long as she’s been Black, she’d know all Black people aren’t joined at the hip and think the same. What’s wrong with her? lol She’d sell us out for a nickel if it adds to her pocket. That still wouldn’t get her an invite to many, racist right wingers’ ‘private clubs’ though. lol [Edited 4/6/21 9:06am]

Stacey Dash founf that out....I see she recently got her "N***** Wake-Up Call"

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Reply #31 posted 04/06/21 3:16pm

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2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:
You got that right! I’m going to give my opinion and not worry if people find it acceptable or not. And you’re absolutely right: How is someone like Candace Owens saying Black people who don’t think like her are “stuck on the plantation “, like ignorant slaves, how is THAT not a “race based slur” ? But if you keep mining the same stale material over and over again, after awhile it just becomes noise and nothing worthy of attention

She says things like that all the time, and many racist, right wingers love it. She knocks herself out appeasing their already, ingrained, ignorant, stereotyped racist beliefs of Black Americans. And she wonders why so many Black Americans don’t go over to her side. You’d think as long as she’s been Black, she’d know all Black people aren’t joined at the hip and think the same. What’s wrong with her? lol She’d sell us out for a nickel if it adds to her pocket. That still wouldn’t get her an invite to many, racist right wingers’ ‘private clubs’ though. lol [Edited 4/6/21 9:06am]


Stacey Dash founf that out....I see she recently got her "N***** Wake-Up Call"


lol She sure did. I wonder what made her ‘wake-up?’
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Reply #32 posted 04/06/21 4:06pm

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Here is a great deal: I will send you $1000 if you can find ONE dozen of the dozens of times that you claim I mentioned Howard and Kamala Harris. If you can not, you confess in this forum on this thread to being a lying bitch.

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Hey MODS, why is this poster and the other poster DJ, getting away with calling other posters bitches?

How is that even allowed?

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Reply #33 posted 04/06/21 5:23pm

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AMERICA1ST said:

Here is a great deal: I will send you $1000 if you can find ONE dozen of the dozens of times that you claim I mentioned Howard and Kamala Harris. If you can not, you confess in this forum on this thread to being a lying bitch.

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Hey MODS, why is this poster and the other poster DJ, getting away with calling other posters bitches?

How is that even allowed?

It may be similar to the way they allow you to post an outright lie on me. People call me racist with impunity on a regular basis. You have implied that I am a whoremonger in this forum - were mods consulted on that?

I understand that I am the worst nightmare of the left: an educated black man who is off the plantation and unafraid.

You want in on my $1000 offer? You said I posted Kamala and Howard a dozen times. Why not invest some of the time and energy expended on whining about a term that you hear every day and show us the dozen that you accused me of posting? lol

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Reply #34 posted 04/06/21 5:31pm

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AMERICA1ST said:

Care to address the question or are you just here to attack me?


The ignorance in your statements is so beyond par that it practically demands someone make fun of it and not take it seriously. Attacking you? Well, I don't know you. I only know what you give me/us here on the Org, and so far it's pure idiocy. So, I respond accordingly.

ok - just step off and I will acknowledge your white flag. Not everyone is man enough.

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Reply #35 posted 04/06/21 6:51pm

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uPtoWnNY said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:
You got that right! I’m going to give my opinion and not worry if people find it acceptable or not. And you’re absolutely right: How is someone like Candace Owens saying Black people who don’t think like her are “stuck on the plantation “, like ignorant slaves, how is THAT not a “race based slur” ? But if you keep mining the same stale material over and over again, after awhile it just becomes noise and nothing worthy of attention

She says things like that all the time, and many racist, right wingers love it. She knocks herself out appeasing their already, ingrained, ignorant, stereotyped racist beliefs of Black Americans. And she wonders why so many Black Americans don’t go over to her side. You’d think as long as she’s been Black, she’d know all Black people aren’t joined at the hip and think the same. What’s wrong with her? lol She’d sell us out for a nickel if it adds to her pocket. That still wouldn’t get her an invite to many, racist right wingers’ ‘private clubs’ though. lol [Edited 4/6/21 9:06am]


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And weren’t racists attacking Candace Owens’ baby online?? Normally, I would say that type of behavior was reprehensible....
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Reply #36 posted 04/06/21 8:06pm

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ok - just step off and I will acknowledge your white flag. Not everyone is man enough.


You're the lowest form of life on here, and since I can't go that low, it wouldn't be a fair fight.

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Reply #37 posted 04/07/21 8:35am

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:
You got that right! I’m going to give my opinion and not worry if people find it acceptable or not. And you’re absolutely right: How is someone like Candace Owens saying Black people who don’t think like her are “stuck on the plantation “, like ignorant slaves, how is THAT not a “race based slur” ? But if you keep mining the same stale material over and over again, after awhile it just becomes noise and nothing worthy of attention

She says things like that all the time, and many racist, right wingers love it. She knocks herself out appeasing their already, ingrained, ignorant, stereotyped racist beliefs of Black Americans. And she wonders why so many Black Americans don’t go over to her side. You’d think as long as she’s been Black, she’d know all Black people aren’t joined at the hip and think the same. What’s wrong with her? lol She’d sell us out for a nickel if it adds to her pocket. That still wouldn’t get her an invite to many, racist right wingers’ ‘private clubs’ though. lol [Edited 4/6/21 9:06am]


Stacey Dash founf that out....I see she recently got her "N***** Wake-Up Call"



And weren’t racists attacking Candace Owens’ baby online?? Normally, I would say that type of behavior was reprehensible....

Her people. Those are the ones she appeases, because she says what they’re already thinking about ‘all’ Blacks. Does she really think racists care what political party Black Americans they hate belong to? When will she learn?. They certainly let her know how they feel when they verbally insulted her child. Smh.
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Reply #38 posted 04/07/21 5:36pm

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



And weren’t racists attacking Candace Owens’ baby online?? Normally, I would say that type of behavior was reprehensible....

Her people. Those are the ones she appeases, because she says what they’re already thinking about ‘all’ Blacks. Does she really think racists care what political party Black Americans they hate belong to? When will she learn?. They certainly let her know how they feel when they verbally insulted her child. Smh.
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She’s so addicted to being perceived as “one of the good ones “.
She would probably need a psychotherapist to help her unravel why she so wants the approval of those who hate most people like her
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Reply #39 posted 04/07/21 7:04pm

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AMERICA1ST said:

That is the basic premise of the voting law protests: requiring ID to vote is racist and harms blacks; not whites or Asians or any other race. I dont know a single black person of voting age without a ID and I have met hundreds of them over the last half century.

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It is not more difficult for people of color to obtain an I.D., in fact, it's extremely racist to suggest that it is. You need an I.D. for almost everything. Anyone can get one. Being black does not pose a challenge to acquiring an I.D. in any way.


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Reply #40 posted 04/07/21 7:06pm

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PennyPurple said:

AMERICA1ST said:

Here is a great deal: I will send you $1000 if you can find ONE dozen of the dozens of times that you claim I mentioned Howard and Kamala Harris. If you can not, you confess in this forum on this thread to being a lying bitch.

cooked

Hey MODS, why is this poster and the other poster DJ, getting away with calling other posters bitches?

How is that even allowed?



bawl

Stop pretending words hurt you, honey. biggrin



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Reply #41 posted 04/08/21 4:36am

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djThunderfunk said:

PennyPurple said:

Hey MODS, why is this poster and the other poster DJ, getting away with calling other posters bitches?

How is that even allowed?



bawl

Stop pretending words hurt you, honey. biggrin



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Stop being a pussy.

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Reply #42 posted 04/08/21 4:54am

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Does anyone have the integrity, intelligence or intestinal fortitude to actually address the original question on this thread?


You know, it would help if you provide some info supporting your question. You can’t always expect others to do the work for you.

How about providing a link where it shows it’s more difficult for Blacks to obtain IDs. Which sector of the Black community has an issue obtaining current state ID? Let’s not forget, that there are also the poor, who are from various racial groups, who may not be able to obtain IDs because they may not have transportation to get to their local DMV office, which may be far from their residence or can’t afford to pay for an ID or other situations that may prevent them from updating their ID.

For example, there is an article from 2017, about an elderly Black male, in Texas, who couldn’t get a state ID because Texas ID expired, and his other documents showed a different last name. Sometime in 1964 his mother changed his name when she remarried, but the name change doesn’t match his birth certificate. He obtained lawyers that tried to help him, but even searching court houses, they couldn’t find the documents. He would have to go to court to to start the process, and would cost him $250 that he didn’t have. So there are situations like his that exists. Today it’s easier for many younger people to obtain state IDs, but for many elderly and the poor, it may not be that easy, due to individual circumstances that may be the reason, such as the guy in this article from 2017. This was 4 years ago, but used as an example as a reason why there may be others in his situation.

https://www.washingtonpos...story.html
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Reply #43 posted 04/08/21 8:06am

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PennyPurple said:

djThunderfunk said:



bawl

Stop pretending words hurt you, honey. biggrin



[Edited 4/7/21 19:45pm]

Stop being a pussy.


And with that, you just gave up any leverage you think you had about name-calling, BEYOTCH!! flipped off

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Reply #44 posted 04/08/21 8:07am

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2elijah said:

AMERICA1ST said:

Does anyone have the integrity, intelligence or intestinal fortitude to actually address the original question on this thread?

You know, it would help if you provide some info supporting your question. You can’t always expect others to do the work for you. How about providing a link where it shows it’s more difficult for Blacks to obtain IDs. Which sector of the Black community has an issue obtaining current state ID? Let’s not forget, that there are also the poor, who are from various racial groups, who may not be able to obtain IDs because they may not have transportation to get to their local DMV office, which may be far from their residence or can’t afford to pay for an ID or other situations that may prevent them from updating their ID. For example, there is an article from 2017, about an elderly Black male, in Texas, who couldn’t get a state ID because Texas ID expired, and his other documents showed a different last name. Sometime in 1964 his mother changed his name when she remarried, but the name change doesn’t match his birth certificate. He obtained lawyers that tried to help him, but even searching court houses, they couldn’t find the documents. He would have to go to court to to start the process, and would cost him $250 that he didn’t have. So there are situations like his that exists. Today it’s easier for many younger people to obtain state IDs, but for many elderly and the poor, it may not be that easy, due to individual circumstances that may be the reason, such as the guy in this article from 2017. This was 4 years ago, but used as an example as a reason why there may be others in his situation. https://www.washingtonpos...story.html


A single anecdote that could happen to anyone of any race. The fact is, it is not harder for a person of color to get an I.D. than it is for a white person. And, it would be racist and insulting to suggest it is.



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Reply #45 posted 04/08/21 8:23am

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It’s not that it was “harder to get IDs” by Black people
It was that those who changed the election laws KNEW that Black people, Native Americans, Hispanics, young people and the poor were much more LIKELY not to have the now “required “ ID. This was done deliberately to target those groups. Nobody ever had to come out and say “We won’t allow minorities to get ID”
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Reply #46 posted 04/08/21 8:26am

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djThunderfunk said:



2elijah said:


AMERICA1ST said:

Does anyone have the integrity, intelligence or intestinal fortitude to actually address the original question on this thread?



You know, it would help if you provide some info supporting your question. You can’t always expect others to do the work for you. How about providing a link where it shows it’s more difficult for Blacks to obtain IDs. Which sector of the Black community has an issue obtaining current state ID? Let’s not forget, that there are also the poor, who are from various racial groups, who may not be able to obtain IDs because they may not have transportation to get to their local DMV office, which may be far from their residence or can’t afford to pay for an ID or other situations that may prevent them from updating their ID. For example, there is an article from 2017, about an elderly Black male, in Texas, who couldn’t get a state ID because Texas ID expired, and his other documents showed a different last name. Sometime in 1964 his mother changed his name when she remarried, but the name change doesn’t match his birth certificate. He obtained lawyers that tried to help him, but even searching court houses, they couldn’t find the documents. He would have to go to court to to start the process, and would cost him $250 that he didn’t have. So there are situations like his that exists. Today it’s easier for many younger people to obtain state IDs, but for many elderly and the poor, it may not be that easy, due to individual circumstances that may be the reason, such as the guy in this article from 2017. This was 4 years ago, but used as an example as a reason why there may be others in his situation. https://www.washingtonpos...story.html


A single anecdote that could happen to anyone of any race. The fact is, it is not harder for a person of color to get an I.D. than it is for a white person. And, it would be racist and insulting to suggest it is.



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Reply #47 posted 04/08/21 8:35am

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jjhunsecker said:

It’s not that it was “harder to get IDs” by Black people It was that those who changed the election laws KNEW that Black people, Native Americans, Hispanics, young people and the poor were much more LIKELY not to have the now “required “ ID. This was done deliberately to target those groups. Nobody ever had to come out and say “We won’t allow minorities to get ID”


How do those people that don't have an I.D. otherwise function in society? And why would anybody think that was more of a problem for people of color?

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Reply #48 posted 04/08/21 8:42am

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You'd need to make IDs free to obtain and mandatory for all citizens if you want fairness in this.
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Reply #49 posted 04/08/21 8:58am

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You'd need to make IDs free to obtain and mandatory for all citizens if you want fairness in this.


Are you under the impression that it is hard or expensive to obtain an I.D.?

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Reply #50 posted 04/08/21 9:01am

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No i am not. And since its so cheap, make them free. And since its so important, make them mandatory. Yes, all you sensible free market libertarians have to get them as well.
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Reply #51 posted 04/08/21 9:21am

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No i am not. And since its so cheap, make them free. And since its so important, make them mandatory. Yes, all you sensible free market libertarians have to get them as well.


That's two different issues.

FREE: I don't know anyone, even people who don't have a job, that can't afford to get a license, and I think the non-license I.D.'s are even cheaper. Never heard of someone who couldn't afford one.

MANDATORY: How does imposing that everyone MUST have an I.D. help those that somehow don't already have one?

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Reply #52 posted 04/08/21 9:49am

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It’s not that it was “harder to get IDs” by Black people
It was that those who changed the election laws KNEW that Black people, Native Americans, Hispanics, young people and the poor were much more LIKELY not to have the now “required “ ID. This was done deliberately to target those groups. Nobody ever had to come out and say “We won’t allow minorities to get ID”

Absolutely, and elderly. GEORGIA voters scared the crap out of the GOP and now some states are suddenly trying to change voter laws. They’re afraid of the changing demographics in America, but it’s inevitable because the demographics will change regardless of the dirty tactics the GOP tries to pull. You also have to have a certain amount of documents that add up to specific points to get an ID.

The guy in the article I posted about, had no problem voting, prior to that. At the time, he ran into a problem with voting in Texas, the law changed, and he didn’t have documents to prove his name change from back in the 60s, nor had the money to go to court to start the process.
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Reply #53 posted 04/08/21 10:12am

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You'd need to make IDs free to obtain and mandatory for all citizens if you want fairness in this.

Well now it is required to have a ‘Real ID’ in the US. They extended the deadline date because of the pandemic. At least by the time you need to renew your license, you’ll have to get a real ID. You have to pay for a state ID and Driver’s license It’s not free. I agree, they should be free.

You also need other documentation to get the ID.
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Reply #54 posted 04/08/21 10:15am

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It was planned way back:

https://www.youtube.com/w...GBAsFwPglw

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Getting an ID takes a birth certificate. Those can be expensive. They also have a list of people in other states with similar names. If your name is James P Washington in Alabama, but James L Washington voted in Wisconsin, they take the first man off the roles. Even with ID he cannot vote. It is called Operation Crosscheck. Same with Hispanics. There are many Juan Diazes. Many with same name can be purged and are.

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Reply #55 posted 04/08/21 10:16am

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Ironic all the Washingtons and Jeffersons who are black.

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Reply #56 posted 04/08/21 10:24am

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Ironic all the Washingtons and Jeffersons who are black.


Not surprising. Blame that on slave owners. Most Black Americans have European surnames. You don’t need a rocket science to figure out why.

I have a cousin where we both have the same first, middle and last name, but born 2 years apart. We live in the same state, at one time, we lived in the same county, and I feared during that time that might have affected both of us voting. So far, not yet, but I heard something like that has affected others.
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Reply #57 posted 04/08/21 10:28am

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https://www.aclu.org/issu...quirements

“Since 2008, states across the country have passed measures to make it harder for Americans—particularly black people, the elderly, students, and people with disabilities—to exercise their fundamental right to cast a ballot. Over 30 states have considered laws that would require voters to present a government-issued photo ID in order to vote. Studies suggest that up to 11 percent of American citizens lack such an ID and would be required to navigate the administrative burdens to obtain one or forego the right to vote entirely.”
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Reply #58 posted 04/08/21 10:32am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

It’s not that it was “harder to get IDs” by Black people
It was that those who changed the election laws KNEW that Black people, Native Americans, Hispanics, young people and the poor were much more LIKELY not to have the now “required “ ID. This was done deliberately to target those groups. Nobody ever had to come out and say “We won’t allow minorities to get ID”

Absolutely, and elderly. GEORGIA voters scared the crap out of the GOP and now some states are suddenly trying to change voter laws. They’re afraid of the changing demographics in America, but it’s inevitable because the demographics will change regardless of the dirty tactics the GOP tries to pull. You also have to have a certain amount of documents that add up to specific points to get an ID.

The guy in the article I posted about, had no problem voting, prior to that. At the time, he ran into a problem with voting in Texas, the law changed, and he didn’t have documents to prove his name change from back in the 60s, nor had the money to go to court to start the process.
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Like I said, you can target people without explicitly saying so...
Say someone owns a restaurant and they don’t want really overweight people in their establishment. You can’t come out and say it. But what if you make the chairs really small and the passageways really narrow. Now, you may have DISCOURAGED overweight people from even wanting to come there. And the owner, who didn’t want them there in the first place, has achieved his goal... and with plausible deniability
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Poor whites cant vote either.

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