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Reply #30 posted 03/28/21 5:26pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Now they were sex slaves? OMG.

Sadly many are. but ignore it if it fits your political agenda

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My political agenda?

Yes, I'm aware of the human trafficking in the world, but to insinuate that these women that were killed were sex slaves, is a bit too much.

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Reply #31 posted 03/28/21 5:33pm

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2elijah said:
You know what? It’s interesting how some are downplaying the shooter’s killings. ( re: Atlanta spa murders). He murdered those women, and if it was about sexual trafficking, he surely didn’t do them any favors by murdering them. [Edited 3/28/21 10:36am]
It’s a way to denigrate these women. As if they were prostitutes (which has not been established), then they deserve less sympathy for what happened to them. It’s sick someone would think that way. (And of course don’t forget the 2 victims who were customers and were in the wrong place at the wrong time)

There is seriously something wrong here with a couple of these posters.

Damn, these people were humans, I don't care what their occupations are or aren't. I don't get why they are making it seem like because they are asians it's ok, or it's ok because they were Ladies of the Night, or it's ok because they are women.

And I also don't get why it's ok to flat out call them whores and why it's allowed here.

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Reply #32 posted 03/28/21 6:44pm

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PennyPurple said:

jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said: It’s a way to denigrate these women. As if they were prostitutes (which has not been established), then they deserve less sympathy for what happened to them. It’s sick someone would think that way. (And of course don’t forget the 2 victims who were customers and were in the wrong place at the wrong time)

There is seriously something wrong here with a couple of these posters.

Damn, these people were humans, I don't care what their occupations are or aren't. I don't get why they are making it seem like because they are asians it's ok, or it's ok because they were Ladies of the Night, or it's ok because they are women.

And I also don't get why it's ok to flat out call them whores and why it's allowed here.

nothing I said suggests any of that... nothing was okay about this and NOTHING the woman did makes it okay.

and I call no one any name... I agree that even for sex workers that term goes too far.


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Reply #33 posted 03/28/21 6:59pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Now they were sex slaves? OMG.

Sadly many are. but ignore it if it fits your political agenda

Asian Century Institute -...ng in Asia

[Edited 3/28/21 17:20pm]

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Lets look at your political aganda:

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You only come back to yet again deflect from another shooting.

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After regularly dismissing the coup leader's actual sexual abuse you accuse another person of being a pedophile with no proof.

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You assume that the places of work attacked were brothels because they were Asian.

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You assume all the workers are prostitutes because they were Asian.

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You assume that they are trafficked slaves because they are Asian - but ignore that the South Korean Government said it will inform the familes and that no charges for this have been made by Police investigating the mass shooting that specfically targeted people by race - Any evidence of trafficking would have been found in the process of investigation or contacting their families.

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You seek to shame people as if they are in favour of the slave trade just because they question your assumptions.

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And all why? To defend gun violence once more and because you know the coup leader, with comments like "China flu", is the prime cause of increased Asian race hate by his followers.

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Reply #34 posted 03/29/21 3:59am

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PennyPurple said:



jjhunsecker said:


2elijah said:
You know what? It’s interesting how some are downplaying the shooter’s killings. ( re: Atlanta spa murders). He murdered those women, and if it was about sexual trafficking, he surely didn’t do them any favors by murdering them. [Edited 3/28/21 10:36am]

It’s a way to denigrate these women. As if they were prostitutes (which has not been established), then they deserve less sympathy for what happened to them. It’s sick someone would think that way. (And of course don’t forget the 2 victims who were customers and were in the wrong place at the wrong time)

There is seriously something wrong here with a couple of these posters.


Damn, these people were humans, I don't care what their occupations are or aren't. I don't get why they are making it seem like because they are asians it's ok, or it's ok because they were Ladies of the Night, or it's ok because they are women.


And I also don't get why it's ok to flat out call them whores and why it's allowed here.


Agree. It is odd that the OP mentions those Spa businesses in ‘CO’ aka Colorado, when the Asian women who were murdered, were killed in Atlanta, not in Colorado.

The Colorado mass shooting happened in Boulder, ‘CO’ in a grocery store, where the shooter killed ‘random’ victims. That killing had nothing to do with massage parlors or even targeting Asians.


Well, looks like the OP confused the two situations. Given who the OP is, not surprised.

Colorado shooting:

https://www.denverpost.co...s-killing/

Here’s info on the Colorado, King Sooper Supermarket mass killer. Plenty of info on him from various Media sources:

https://www.denverpost.co...wi-alissa/

On OP’s comments about Shooter being a Muslim/anti-trump. Keep in mind this ‘CO’ killing had nothing to do with massage parlors/Spas or Asians.

Fact checked, according to Snopes about the ‘CO’ shooter.

From ‘SNOPES:’

https://www.snopes.com/fa...ed-gunman/

Claim
“Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, the man suspected of shooting and killing 10 people at a Colorado supermarket in March 2021, identifies as Muslim and was critical of former U.S. President Donald Trump.”

Rating:
True

Context
“According to law enforcement sources, evidence gathered so far does not indicate the suspect's religious or political views played a role in his alleged crimes, and as of this writing no motive has been established.”


****

So again, looks like the OP confused the Atlanta shooting with the ‘CO’ shooting.

Let’s see how the OP is going to explain himself about this one. popcorn
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Reply #35 posted 03/29/21 9:58am

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2elijah said:

PennyPurple said:



jjhunsecker said:


2elijah said:
You know what? It’s interesting how some are downplaying the shooter’s killings. ( re: Atlanta spa murders). He murdered those women, and if it was about sexual trafficking, he surely didn’t do them any favors by murdering them. [Edited 3/28/21 10:36am]

It’s a way to denigrate these women. As if they were prostitutes (which has not been established), then they deserve less sympathy for what happened to them. It’s sick someone would think that way. (And of course don’t forget the 2 victims who were customers and were in the wrong place at the wrong time)

There is seriously something wrong here with a couple of these posters.


Damn, these people were humans, I don't care what their occupations are or aren't. I don't get why they are making it seem like because they are asians it's ok, or it's ok because they were Ladies of the Night, or it's ok because they are women.


And I also don't get why it's ok to flat out call them whores and why it's allowed here.


Agree. It is odd that the OP mentions those Spa businesses in ‘CO’ aka Colorado, when the Asian women who were murdered, were killed in Atlanta, not in Colorado.

The Colorado mass shooting happened in Boulder, ‘CO’ in a grocery store, where the shooter killed ‘random’ victims. That killing had nothing to do with massage parlors or even targeting Asians.


Well, looks like the OP confused the two situations. Given who the OP is, not surprised.

Colorado shooting:

https://www.denverpost.co...s-killing/

Here’s info on the Colorado, King Sooper Supermarket mass killer. Plenty of info on him from various Media sources:

https://www.denverpost.co...wi-alissa/

On OP’s comments about Shooter being a Muslim/anti-trump. Keep in mind this ‘CO’ killing had nothing to do with massage parlors/Spas or Asians.

Fact checked, according to Snopes about the ‘CO’ shooter.

From ‘SNOPES:’

https://www.snopes.com/fa...ed-gunman/

Claim
“Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, the man suspected of shooting and killing 10 people at a Colorado supermarket in March 2021, identifies as Muslim and was critical of former U.S. President Donald Trump.”

Rating:
True

Context
“According to law enforcement sources, evidence gathered so far does not indicate the suspect's religious or political views played a role in his alleged crimes, and as of this writing no motive has been established.”


****

So again, looks like the OP confused the Atlanta shooting with the ‘CO’ shooting.

Let’s see how the OP is going to explain himself about this one. popcorn
[Edited 3/29/21 7:48am]


He’s not going to explain himself. How could he ?
He’ll just disappear from the thread
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Reply #36 posted 03/29/21 10:03am

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jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:


Agree. It is odd that the OP mentions those Spa businesses in ‘CO’ aka Colorado, when the Asian women who were murdered, were killed in Atlanta, not in Colorado.

The Colorado mass shooting happened in Boulder, ‘CO’ in a grocery store, where the shooter killed ‘random’ victims. That killing had nothing to do with massage parlors or even targeting Asians.


Well, looks like the OP confused the two situations. Given who the OP is, not surprised.

Colorado shooting:

https://www.denverpost.co...s-killing/

Here’s info on the Colorado, King Sooper Supermarket mass killer. Plenty of info on him from various Media sources:

https://www.denverpost.co...wi-alissa/

On OP’s comments about Shooter being a Muslim/anti-trump. Keep in mind this ‘CO’ killing had nothing to do with massage parlors/Spas or Asians.

Fact checked, according to Snopes about the ‘CO’ shooter.

From ‘SNOPES:’

https://www.snopes.com/fa...ed-gunman/

Claim
“Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, the man suspected of shooting and killing 10 people at a Colorado supermarket in March 2021, identifies as Muslim and was critical of former U.S. President Donald Trump.”

Rating:
True

Context
“According to law enforcement sources, evidence gathered so far does not indicate the suspect's religious or political views played a role in his alleged crimes, and as of this writing no motive has been established.”


****

So again, looks like the OP confused the Atlanta shooting with the ‘CO’ shooting.

Let’s see how the OP is going to explain himself about this one. popcorn
[Edited 3/29/21 7:48am]


He’s not going to explain himself. How could he ?
He’ll just disappear from the thread

Just think it’s odd, when the mass shooting in Colorado, had nothing to do with massage parlors or the Spa shooting in Atlanta, based on the OP’s
thread title.
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Reply #37 posted 03/29/21 6:35pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Now they were sex slaves? OMG.

Sadly many are. but ignore it if it fits your political agenda

Asian Century Institute -...ng in Asia

[Edited 3/28/21 17:20pm]

Of course they are. I have met more than one in LA. But as you say, it doesnt fit the narrative so it will be ignored completely but those who claim to care the most about women.

Earlier in this thread, someone was ignoirant enought to say the media will not mention that they were whores because it did not need to be said - ie. did not fit narrative

[Edited 3/29/21 18:36pm]

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Reply #38 posted 03/29/21 6:55pm

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AMERICA1ST said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Sadly many are. but ignore it if it fits your political agenda

Asian Century Institute -...ng in Asia

[Edited 3/28/21 17:20pm]

Of course they are. I have met more than one in LA. But as you say, it doesnt fit the narrative so it will be ignored completely but those who claim to care the most about women.

Earlier in this thread, someone was ignoirant enought to say the media will not mention that they were whores because it did not need to be said - ie. did not fit narrative

[Edited 3/29/21 18:36pm]

Oh I have no doubt that you have met and paid for more than one.

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Reply #39 posted 03/30/21 6:54am

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PennyPurple said:



AMERICA1ST said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:




Sadly many are. but ignore it if it fits your political agenda





Asian Century Institute -...ng in Asia



[Edited 3/28/21 17:20pm]



Of course they are. I have met more than one in LA. But as you say, it doesnt fit the narrative so it will be ignored completely but those who claim to care the most about women.


Earlier in this thread, someone was ignoirant enought to say the media will not mention that they were whores because it did not need to be said - ie. did not fit narrative


[Edited 3/29/21 18:36pm]



Oh I have no doubt that you have met and paid for more than one.



But once it’s mentioned that they are (allegedly) sex workers- then what?
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Reply #40 posted 03/30/21 8:50am

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AMERICA1ST said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




PennyPurple said:



Now they were sex slaves? OMG.




Sadly many are. but ignore it if it fits your political agenda





Asian Century Institute -...ng in Asia



[Edited 3/28/21 17:20pm]



Of course they are. I have met more than one in LA. But as you say, it doesnt fit the narrative so it will be ignored completely but those who claim to care the most about women.


Earlier in this thread, someone was ignoirant enought to say the media will not mention that they were whores because it did not need to be said - ie. did not fit narrative

[Edited 3/29/21 18:36pm]


Yet you’re calling them ‘whores’ and then angry because the media didn’t refer to the Asian women killed as such.

Furthermore, the Colorado shooting had nothing to do with the Asians targeted in spas in Atlanta, so what does the Colorado shooter have to do with the Atlanta shooting??
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Reply #41 posted 03/30/21 10:17am

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Mods deal with this jerk

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #42 posted 03/30/21 10:28am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Mods deal with this jerk



May not be easy...
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Reply #43 posted 03/30/21 11:44am

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PennyPurple said:

Oh I have no doubt that you have met and paid for more than one.

But once it’s mentioned that they are (allegedly) sex workers- then what?

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Whether they are masseuses or sex workers, whether they are here by choice or otherwise, then they are no less victims of deliberately race based gun violence.

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Reply #44 posted 03/30/21 1:08pm

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2elijah said:

AMERICA1ST said:

Of course they are. I have met more than one in LA. But as you say, it doesnt fit the narrative so it will be ignored completely but those who claim to care the most about women.

Earlier in this thread, someone was ignoirant enought to say the media will not mention that they were whores because it did not need to be said - ie. did not fit narrative

[Edited 3/29/21 18:36pm]

Yet you’re calling them ‘whores’ and then angry because the media didn’t refer to the Asian women killed as such. Furthermore, the Colorado shooting had nothing to do with the Asians targeted in spas in Atlanta, so what does the Colorado shooter have to do with the Atlanta shooting?? [Edited 3/30/21 10:26am]

Liar once again. I never said I was angry about anything - that is your delusion and I will not accept or respect it. I am pointing out an ugly truth that you are not man enough to face: the media is suppressing part of the story and there is a reason that they are doing this.

My post is about the CO shooting. I never said CO had anything to do with Atlanta. YOU brought up Atlanta to dilute the original question about CO - which you can not control your emotions long enough to answer intelligently.

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Reply #45 posted 03/30/21 1:18pm

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IanRG said:



jjhunsecker said:


PennyPurple said:


Oh I have no doubt that you have met and paid for more than one.



But once it’s mentioned that they are (allegedly) sex workers- then what?

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Whether they are masseuses or sex workers, whether they are here by choice or otherwise, then they are no less victims of deliberately race based gun violence.




I agree their job or their level willingness or consent is not a factor (for the Killer's defense of his actions) but you assume race was (A motivating factor or rather a major motivating factor INDEPEMDAMNT of the killers experience as a client to those specific locations).





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Reply #46 posted 03/30/21 2:02pm

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AMERICA1ST said:



2elijah said:


AMERICA1ST said:


Of course they are. I have met more than one in LA. But as you say, it doesnt fit the narrative so it will be ignored completely but those who claim to care the most about women.


Earlier in this thread, someone was ignoirant enought to say the media will not mention that they were whores because it did not need to be said - ie. did not fit narrative


[Edited 3/29/21 18:36pm]



Yet you’re calling them ‘whores’ and then angry because the media didn’t refer to the Asian women killed as such. Furthermore, the Colorado shooting had nothing to do with the Asians targeted in spas in Atlanta, so what does the Colorado shooter have to do with the Atlanta shooting?? [Edited 3/30/21 10:26am]

Liar once again. I never said I was angry about anything - that is your delusion and I will not accept or respect it. I am pointing out an ugly truth that you are not man enough to face: the media is suppressing part of the story and there is a reason that they are doing this.



My post is about the CO shooting. I never said CO had anything to do with Atlanta. YOU brought up Atlanta to dilute the original question about CO - which you can not control your emotions long enough to answer intelligently.


Actually you’re the liar.

Here’s your post: You word




AMERICA1st said:

“Why does not the media mention that the Asian spas in CO are actually whore houses?
Everyone knows what goes on in those places - they are in every major American city and they are always Asian. That is why there is no real evidence of it being a racially motivated crime. Some of the massage parlors had been targeted in prostitution stings by police. But you will not hear mainstream media tell you that for some reason. It is clear that the shooter was targeting protitutes.”


Keep the insults of calling me a liar, a second time to yourself, and by the way, I’m a woman, get over it.

What did the Colorado shooting have to do with the massage parlors you mentioned in your post, stating most of those places are ‘always Asian’.

The CO shooter killed random people in a Grocery store. He wasn’t targeting Asians or massage parlors. The Atlanta shooter targeted massage parlors in Atlanta, where he killed 6 Asian women, not the CO shooter.

You even mentioned the media wouldn’t tell if the CO Shooter was possibly a Muslim and anti-trumper, yet they did. Read the fact check by ‘Snopes’. If that info it wasn’t out or assumed, it wouldn’t have had to be fact checked. Get the pie off your face and admit you messed up. falloff comfort

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Reply #47 posted 03/30/21 2:06pm

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IanRG said:



jjhunsecker said:


PennyPurple said:


Oh I have no doubt that you have met and paid for more than one.



But once it’s mentioned that they are (allegedly) sex workers- then what?

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Whether they are masseuses or sex workers, whether they are here by choice or otherwise, then they are no less victims of deliberately race based gun violence.


And if they were forced to work as sex slaves, against their will, why would the OP insult them more and call them ‘prostitutes’, as if he knows for sure they consented to it? Smh.
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Reply #48 posted 03/30/21 3:30pm

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jjhunsecker said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Mods deal with this jerk

May not be easy...


Considering a former mod banning someone for 2 weeks over nothing, I'd say this one has more than enough to at least get a warning.

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Reply #49 posted 03/30/21 4:19pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Mods deal with this jerk

Yeah...sure. rolleyes

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Reply #50 posted 03/30/21 7:43pm

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RJOrion said:

probably because whats understood, doesnt need to be spoken...most people are very aware that certain massage spots are fronts for sex trade and sex trafficking operations...but in no way does that excuse or justify the heinous and evil violent attacks upon those employees and patrons

Exactly, all the articles I read mentioned he had been having sex in those places, right? That he was blaming them for his own sex addiction.

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Reply #51 posted 03/31/21 3:26am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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Whether they are masseuses or sex workers, whether they are here by choice or otherwise, then they are no less victims of deliberately race based gun violence.

I agree their job or their level willingness or consent is not a factor....but you assume race was.

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Based on the facts - the distance he drove, the number of Asians he killed.

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But the best support for the asumption that the perp who targeted people mostly the same race was at least in part motivated by racism is that you are back here denying it.

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Reply #52 posted 04/02/21 11:47am

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IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said: I agree their job or their level willingness or consent is not a factor....but you assume race was.

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Based on the facts - the distance he drove, the number of Asians he killed.

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But the best support for the asumption that the perp who targeted people mostly the same race was at least in part motivated by racism is that you are back here denying it.

fallacy: the distance he drove is not evidence of a race motive. It seems to support that he was targeting THOSE specific locations. The fact that those locations happened have a large number of people of a similar ethnic background is not evidence he was targeting them on that bases. (it is not his fault those locations did not have diverse hiring practices)

it is much more likely he had been to those locations and was not happy for whatever reason and he choose to go to those locations.

Oh and I am sure that I never denied it... I am sure you made that up from whole cloth--in part-- out of a personal vendetta against me personally.

I will make more clear my post: I said "I agree their job or their level willingness or consent is not a factor....but you assume race was."

I was saying their job or willingness was not something that mitigates or excuses the actions. I then went on to say that it is an assumption (One based on the killer's race--Ironic) that race was a factor (Other than those places happened to have a high number of people of the same background 'working' there)

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Reply #53 posted 04/02/21 11:52am

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ufoclub said:

RJOrion said:

probably because whats understood, doesnt need to be spoken...most people are very aware that certain massage spots are fronts for sex trade and sex trafficking operations...but in no way does that excuse or justify the heinous and evil violent attacks upon those employees and patrons

Exactly, all the articles I read mentioned he had been having sex in those places, right? That he was blaming them for his own sex addiction.

so some of them were--according to what you have learned--sex workers. Again many many woman (especially immigrants) are forced into sex work. I would hope any reasonable person would think that worthy--at the very least--of consideration to try to save any woman currently being victimised. It seems some rather ignore that--some going so far as to advocate for policies that make it more difficult for them to escape.

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Reply #54 posted 04/02/21 11:54am

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Only, quit going to those parlors.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #55 posted 04/02/21 11:57am

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Only, quit going to those parlors.

it is best to not go into personal comments.

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Reply #56 posted 04/02/21 2:36pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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Based on the facts - the distance he drove, the number of Asians he killed.

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But the best support for the asumption that the perp who targeted people mostly the same race was at least in part motivated by racism is that you are back here denying it.

fallacy: the distance he drove is not evidence of a race motive. It seems to support that he was targeting THOSE specific locations. The fact that those locations happened have a large number of people of a similar ethnic background is not evidence he was targeting them on that bases. (it is not his fault those locations did not have diverse hiring practices)

it is much more likely he had been to those locations and was not happy for whatever reason and he choose to go to those locations.

Oh and I am sure that I never denied it... I am sure you made that up from whole cloth--in part-- out of a personal vendetta against me personally.

I will make more clear my post: I said "I agree their job or their level willingness or consent is not a factor....but you assume race was."

I was saying their job or willingness was not something that mitigates or excuses the actions. I then went on to say that it is an assumption (One based on the killer's race--Ironic) that race was a factor (Other than those places happened to have a high number of people of the same background 'working' there)

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So you are allowed to make assumptions but dismiss other people's assumptions because they are assumptions.

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You said "you assume race was" and I replied "Based on the facts - the distance he drove, the number of Asians he killed".

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Both are pretty good reasons to assume race was a factor. So good that days before you posted here Fox News and Co were making up their pro-guns, deny any racism and anti-mainstream media spin by saying that it could not be race based - so back you come to push their position once more.

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PS Re the vendetta line - funny. It is you who has constantly brought up fabrications making up things I did not say to use as personal attacks and derail threads whilst hiding behind referring to me as "someone". My personal vendetta is to dispel lies.

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Reply #57 posted 04/02/21 3:03pm

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IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

fallacy: the distance he drove is not evidence of a race motive. It seems to support that he was targeting THOSE specific locations. The fact that those locations happened have a large number of people of a similar ethnic background is not evidence he was targeting them on that bases. (it is not his fault those locations did not have diverse hiring practices)

it is much more likely he had been to those locations and was not happy for whatever reason and he choose to go to those locations.

Oh and I am sure that I never denied it... I am sure you made that up from whole cloth--in part-- out of a personal vendetta against me personally.

I will make more clear my post: I said "I agree their job or their level willingness or consent is not a factor....but you assume race was."

I was saying their job or willingness was not something that mitigates or excuses the actions. I then went on to say that it is an assumption (One based on the killer's race--Ironic) that race was a factor (Other than those places happened to have a high number of people of the same background 'working' there)

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So you are allowed to make assumptions but dismiss other people's assumptions because they are assumptions.

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You said "you assume race was" and I replied "Based on the facts - the distance he drove, the number of Asians he killed".

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Both are pretty good reasons to assume race was a factor. So good that days before you posted here Fox News and Co were making up their pro-guns, deny any racism and anti-mainstream media spin by saying that it could not be race based - so back you come to push their position once more.

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PS Re the vendetta line - funny. It is you who has constantly brought up fabrications making up things I did not say to use as personal attacks and derail threads whilst hiding behind referring to me as "someone". My personal vendetta is to dispel lies.

1) yes


2) and i told you why they are flawed



3) I did no such thing

4) aww... assuming I must mean you is kind of sweet

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Reply #58 posted 04/02/21 3:06pm

IanRG

OnlyNDaUsa said:

ufoclub said:

Exactly, all the articles I read mentioned he had been having sex in those places, right? That he was blaming them for his own sex addiction.

so some of them were--according to what you have learned--sex workers. Again many many woman (especially immigrants) are forced into sex work. I would hope any reasonable person would think that worthy--at the very least--of consideration to try to save any woman currently being victimised. It seems some rather ignore that--some going so far as to advocate for policies that make it more difficult for them to escape.

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It is an assumption that some of them may have had sex at these businesses - Massage businesses, especially Asian one's HATE it when people assume this. The one in our town has a sign at the front that says "We don't give happy endings. Do NOT ask". Perhaps the perp was sick of being rejected by them or one person did but she stopped or moved on etc.

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It is an assumption on an assumption that therefore some may have been forced to work as sex workers or trafficked from Asia to be sex slaves.

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It is a fact that this is gun violence that killed 9 people, 2/3rd of which Asian.

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This is just a deflection from yet another case of US gun violence. IF there is evidence of trafficking and enslaving this can be addressed alongside the US gun violence issue and alongside mental health issues.

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Reply #59 posted 04/02/21 3:25pm

IanRG

OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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So you are allowed to make assumptions but dismiss other people's assumptions because they are assumptions.

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You said "you assume race was" and I replied "Based on the facts - the distance he drove, the number of Asians he killed".

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Both are pretty good reasons to assume race was a factor. So good that days before you posted here Fox News and Co were making up their pro-guns, deny any racism and anti-mainstream media spin by saying that it could not be race based - so back you come to push their position once more.

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PS Re the vendetta line - funny. It is you who has constantly brought up fabrications making up things I did not say to use as personal attacks and derail threads whilst hiding behind referring to me as "someone". My personal vendetta is to dispel lies.

1) yes


2) and i told you why they are flawed



3) I did no such thing

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1) When you admit your own assumptions are unsubstantiated, and the other person substantiates their assumption, the validity of your assumptions are weakened.

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2) All assumptions are assumptions. Your arguments against mine were guesses. You argument was perhaps he travelled all that distance between Asian massage businesses was because they are massage businesses not because they are Asian massage businesses based on the assumption that he had had sex at each of these. Perhaps he went to each of them in the hopes of sex and was rejected by all or most of them and this is what triggered his gun violence.

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3) You did. You cannot dey that you have just returned. You cannot deny that you are pushing the very same line as Tucker Carlson and others days after they stated what you said here.

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