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Reply #60 posted 03/24/21 12:23am

IanRG

Graycap23 said:

IanRG said:

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There was no back and forth from me, just as there was no good reason for you to disparage people just because you were unable to support your claim.

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We don't need an introduction to the topic to know that the Sumerians had myths. Even if we did, your links verified that the Sumerians had myths.

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As this has nothing at all to do with the topic, I am very happy to move on back to the topic.

WTF are u talking about?

I don't know if they had myths or not, I wasn't around 1,000's of years ago.

That was NOT the point of bring up the Summarians.

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WTF were you talking about when YOU said "I'd suggest all people with more than 2 brain cells 2 get some Enil (sic) & Enki in their life and leave fairly tales along altogether."

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Enlil and Enki are fairy tale people from before humans - yet you attacked all people who don't agree with you even before anyone called your assertion BS.

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Reply #61 posted 03/24/21 12:56am

Graycap23

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IanRG said:

Graycap23 said:

WTF are u talking about?

I don't know if they had myths or not, I wasn't around 1,000's of years ago.

That was NOT the point of bring up the Summarians.

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WTF were you talking about when YOU said "I'd suggest all people with more than 2 brain cells 2 get some Enil (sic) & Enki in their life and leave fairly tales along altogether."

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Enlil and Enki are fairy tale people from before humans - yet you attacked all people who don't agree with you even before anyone called your assertion BS.

JESUS IS 100% fairly tale. At least with The Summarians, there are artifacts, texts, etc....

Where is the Jesus artifacts? Texts? etc?

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Reply #62 posted 03/24/21 1:24am

IanRG

Graycap23 said:

IanRG said:

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WTF were you talking about when YOU said "I'd suggest all people with more than 2 brain cells 2 get some Enil (sic) & Enki in their life and leave fairly tales along altogether."

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Enlil and Enki are fairy tale people from before humans - yet you attacked all people who don't agree with you even before anyone called your assertion BS.

JESUS IS 100% fairly tale. At least with The Summarians, there are artifacts, texts, etc....

Where is the Jesus artifacts? Texts? etc?

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Codswallop - there is zero proof of Enlil and Enki as anything but fairy tale.

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Reply #63 posted 03/24/21 2:25am

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Graycap23 said:



IanRG said:




Graycap23 said:



WTF are u talking about?


I don't know if they had myths or not, I wasn't around 1,000's of years ago.


That was NOT the point of bring up the Summarians.



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WTF were you talking about when YOU said "I'd suggest all people with more than 2 brain cells 2 get some Enil (sic) & Enki in their life and leave fairly tales along altogether."


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Enlil and Enki are fairy tale people from before humans - yet you attacked all people who don't agree with you even before anyone called your assertion BS.



JESUS IS 100% fairly tale. At least with The Summarians, there are artifacts, texts, etc....


Where is the Jesus artifacts? Texts? etc?



Flavius Josephus wrote about Jesus in 93 AD. There are a few other mentions of a "sorcerer"-type person living around that time in other texts but Flavius Josephus's is the only one (that I know of) that refers to him by name. He writes about "James, brother of Jesus, the so-called Christ".

Certainly not proof that Jesus, as he's depicted today existed but enough to show that there is at least some basis in Christianity.

Personally, I doubt even that and if there was such a man I believe he was either a conman or someone who's mother warped into believing he was something he wasn't so that she could avoid repercussions for having a child out of wedlock. But I'm getting sidetracked. So back to the topic at hand.
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Reply #64 posted 03/24/21 3:04am

IanRG

EmmaMcG said:

Graycap23 said:

JESUS IS 100% fairly tale. At least with The Summarians, there are artifacts, texts, etc....

Where is the Jesus artifacts? Texts? etc?

Flavius Josephus wrote about Jesus in 93 AD. There are a few other mentions of a "sorcerer"-type person living around that time in other texts but Flavius Josephus's is the only one (that I know of) that refers to him by name. He writes about "James, brother of Jesus, the so-called Christ". Certainly not proof that Jesus, as he's depicted today existed but enough to show that there is at least some basis in Christianity. Personally, I doubt even that and if there was such a man I believe he was either a conman or someone who's mother warped into believing he was something he wasn't so that she could avoid repercussions for having a child out of wedlock. But I'm getting sidetracked. So back to the topic at hand.

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And then there is the all the writings of the Christians, some much earlier than 93AD and not contradicted by other contemporaneous writings by people denying what the Christians were saying.

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Putting aside whether Jesus is the Son of God, most professional historians specialising in this time and place accept that Jesus most likely existed. Against this not one single professional historian with any credibility thinks Enlil and Enki were around before humans.

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But as you say, this is all off topic.

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On the topic it does point to an interesting point - If Jesus is as understood by Christians then the author is asking people to turnaway from God and eternal salvation etc all for a political motive and because he hates the thought of sharing Heaven with others. If Jesus is the Son of God, then Heaven exists so choosing not Heaven is not the wisest of choices. He is not just asking people to complain about the organisations (something we should all do regularly) but he is asking people who believe in God to not believe in God.

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Reply #65 posted 03/24/21 4:24am

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Graycap23 said:

jaawwnn said:

So anyway, who or what is Enil & Enki? It's not a religion or type of spirituality i've come across before. Googling only comes up with Mesopotamian myths and maybe something to do with aliens (???), what's the deal?


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Unlike myths with no tangible history, The Summarian history is here for all 2 see.

Texts and artifacts, NOT made up nonsense. If u are interested in facts, here is a good start.

Do any of these artifacts look like myths?

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/sumerian-artifacts?phrase=sumerian%20artifacts&sort=best

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_literature


I mean... yeah. It's right there on the wikipedia article you linked to:

Important works include:


I'm not against mythology though, i think it should be studied and taken seriously. I also know that to study mythology from outside of the society that created it is is quite a different thing from living in that society. I wasn't aware that there was a modern movement of people who take the Sumerian writings and treat them like religious texts, unless i'm misunderstanding you? I am absolutely not up on my sumerian texts aside from a failed attempt to read the epic of Gilgamesh many years ago.


We have ancient artifacts and texts in Ireland as well, although nothing written down is anywhere as near as old as the Sumerian stuff:

Newgrange - Wikipedia
Táin Bó Cúailnge - Wikipedia
Irish mythology - Wikipedia


Occasionally you come across modern druids who try and find some form of religion in this stuff but i'm not sure how seriously anyone takes them...

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Reply #66 posted 03/24/21 8:50pm

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Walking away from Christianity because white people have perpetuated the belief that Jesus was white, instead of middle eastern or black, is like throwing the baby out with the bath water. What should be done is the black churches should start educating their flock on the truth. As someone said earlier, that may be easier said than done, but the effort should be made where possible.

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Reply #67 posted 03/25/21 2:07am

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PurpleJedi said:

This is a loaded topic because it's not about skin color but rather faith.

It's 2021 and most reasonable, well-adjusted people KNOW that Jesus of Nazareth was an Aramaic-speaking, bronze-skinned Jew.

So the issue of having white saints or a white portrayal of Jesus is only an issue to people who have failed to make the distinction between Gospel and Imagery.

The real issue, and something that was the catalyst for my own abandonment of the Christian faith, is the imperialism aspect of Christianity.

Christianity and Islam both spread the faith mainly by the use of the SWORD, not the WORD.

My Native American cousins and Mesoamerican brothers were violently converted to Catholicism by the Spanish & European conquistadors who tore down their temples, burned their books, killed their shamans, and tried to erase their indigenous cultures.

Budhism by sharp contrast, is spread by willing indoctrination.

YES I AM AWARE that there are modern converts to Christianity - an army of missionaries are stationed around the world at any given time helping poor communities for the price of a sermon.
But if we are talking in general & historical terms, it was the sword, gunpowder & mounted armies that resulted in the Christian and Muslim faiths to spread far & wide.

SO... yeah to me it's less about skin color and more about the history.

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TRANSLATION: White [European] Supremacy VS. [Arabic] Brown Supremacy

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Reply #68 posted 03/25/21 2:15am

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Atheisism is a white cult. Atheists see a dark void, with no morality, no love, no nothing. Blacks got saved by Christianity, especially with how they saw Exodus, Babylon, Rome, love of the other, orphan, widow.

Cornel West says this is why you could never have a black ISIS. Thank them and make American grreat for the first time.

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You are aware that "woke people" & some SJWs will call you out for saying accidential racist BS like THAT^, right?

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Christianity made better slaves, 100% certified Uncle Toms, & straight up Sambos out of black folks.

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Reply #69 posted 03/25/21 2:33am

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Graycap23 said:

I'd suggest all people with more than 2 brain cells 2 get some Enil & Enki in their life and leave fairly tales along altogether.

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Remember, I am an agnostc-theist for a reason.

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I believe that our universe was made by a Creator and he [or she] had help in doing so. But I do not know if I am right or wrong due to a lack of evidence from the field of Science, Technology, Engineering, & Mathematics [STEM].

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But i do know that Judaism [Saturn], Christianity [Sun] & Islam [Venus], in their respected pure [pagan!] original form are important parts of the consolation of the Universe, as learn within the understanding of Astrotheology & the light side of occult science.

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Reply #70 posted 03/25/21 2:43am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I always thought it was an individuals choice... Black folk have always chose since I was alive, Christianity, NOI, 5%ers, agnostic, atheist, Yoruba, Egyptology, Rastafarian, Buddist, Wiccan etc

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Not to sound like Dr. Claude Anderson or Kanye West, but Black folks also have/had a choice to be free & independent, or be a slave!

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Most of the time, fear is the reason why black folks and some people in general choose to stay a slave. And fear mongering is one of the best pyschological weapons of choice that all religious fundamentalists used to keep their slaves.....oops, I mean brethens in check.

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Reply #71 posted 03/25/21 3:06am

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EmmaMcG said:

Flavius Josephus wrote about Jesus in 93 AD. There are a few other mentions of a "sorcerer"-type person living around that time in other texts but Flavius Josephus's is the only one (that I know of) that refers to him by name. He writes about "James, brother of Jesus, the so-called Christ". Certainly not proof that Jesus, as he's depicted today existed but enough to show that there is at least some basis in Christianity. Personally, I doubt even that and if there was such a man I believe he was either a conman or someone who's mother warped into believing he was something he wasn't so that she could avoid repercussions for having a child out of wedlock. But I'm getting sidetracked. So back to the topic at hand.

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Depend on how deep you are willing to research this for yourself, that one scoll where Josephus wrote about Yahshua [Christ Jesus] was a forgery, meaning that Josephus never said OR wrote that!

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And also, there were at least 4 individuals named "Jesus" that suppose to have exist in 33 A.D./C.E. and yet most scholars, never mind Josephus, could not make up their minds which one of the 4 Jesus' was the so-called messiah.

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And to add insult to injury [to the mind], Tiberius Ceaser, who existed within the time line that Yahshua suppose to have existence, has biographies written about him for centuries and yet Yahshua was NEVER mention by name in any of them! Why is that? Just think carefully, this is about as bad as writing a biography about Prince and not mention Michael, Madonna, Whitney, Bruce, &/or Janet who did exist within the same timeline as Prince.

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BOTTOM LINE: I can only speak for myself. Either Yahshua [Christ Jesus] did not exist at all OR he did exist, but as a man & not a demigod, and his entire life story has been over-dramatized.

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Reply #72 posted 03/25/21 3:25am

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TonyVanDam said:



EmmaMcG said:


Flavius Josephus wrote about Jesus in 93 AD. There are a few other mentions of a "sorcerer"-type person living around that time in other texts but Flavius Josephus's is the only one (that I know of) that refers to him by name. He writes about "James, brother of Jesus, the so-called Christ". Certainly not proof that Jesus, as he's depicted today existed but enough to show that there is at least some basis in Christianity. Personally, I doubt even that and if there was such a man I believe he was either a conman or someone who's mother warped into believing he was something he wasn't so that she could avoid repercussions for having a child out of wedlock. But I'm getting sidetracked. So back to the topic at hand.

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Depend on how deep you are willing to research this for yourself, that one scoll where Josephus wrote about Yahshua [Christ Jesus] was a forgery, meaning that Josephus never said OR wrote that!


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And also, there were at least 4 individuals named "Jesus" that suppose to have exist in 33 A.D./C.E. and yet most scholars, never mind Josephus, could not make up their minds which one of the 4 Jesus' was the so-called messiah.


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And to add insult to injury [to the mind], Tiberius Ceaser, who existed within the time line that Yahshua suppose to have existence, has biographies written about him for centuries and yet Yahshua was NEVER mention by name in any of them! Why is that? Just think carefully, this is about as bad as writing a biography about Prince and not mention Michael, Madonna, Whitney, Bruce, &/or Janet who did exist within the same timeline as Prince.


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BOTTOM LINE: I can only speak for myself. Either Yahshua [Christ Jesus] did not exist at all OR he did exist, but as a man & not a demigod, and his entire life story has been over-dramatized.



I mean, it's all just fairytales to me anyway. My point was that there is more evidence of Jesus than Enlil and Enki. I personally don't believe in any of it.
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Reply #73 posted 03/25/21 6:42am

RJOrion

Graycap23 said:

IanRG said:

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WTF were you talking about when YOU said "I'd suggest all people with more than 2 brain cells 2 get some Enil (sic) & Enki in their life and leave fairly tales along altogether."

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Enlil and Enki are fairy tale people from before humans - yet you attacked all people who don't agree with you even before anyone called your assertion BS.

JESUS IS 100% fairly tale. At least with The Summarians, there are artifacts, texts, etc....

Where is the Jesus artifacts? Texts? etc?

WORD.... the whole concept of The Trinity is an illogical Fairy Tale, conceived by Europeans (Whites) at the Council Of Nicea ... some 400 years after the death of the alleged Christ figure...and yes, there are unlimited artifacts proving the existence of The Sumerians and Enlil (Elil), Anu, Enki, etc....Christianity was used in conjunction with slavery, to brainwash and control not only the minds, but the souls and spirits of the mighty Africans, who were raped and bought and sold here in America, the Carribean, and Europe...

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Reply #74 posted 03/25/21 7:07am

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In what way is the trinity idea "illogical" and what does being logical have to do with anything here?

Nevermind going into which Europeans were considered "white", and when... And who was allowed be part of Europe, and what the concept of Europe meant... and in which time period. Jeez, we could go on and on
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Reply #75 posted 03/25/21 7:19am

RJOrion

jaawwnn said:

In what way is the trinity idea "illogical" and what does being logical have to do with anything here? Nevermind going into which Europeans were considered "white", and when... And who was allowed be part of Europe, and what the concept of Europe meant... and in which time period. Jeez, we could go on and on [Edited 3/25/21 7:10am]

the idea that 1 Omnipotent God would be divided into a Son, a father, and a so called Holy Ghost (spirit) is completely nonsensical and illogical...on so many different levels..too many to discuss on a blog.... the whole trinity concept was based on Sun worship and Horus, Set and Osiris.... the "Son" is actually "The Sun"....but most dont overstand due to the years of lies and brainwashing

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Reply #76 posted 03/25/21 8:59am

RJOrion

why would ANY logical or reasonably intelligent person of color follow the Eurpean teachings of religion, spirituality or GOD?...these are the people who have for centuries openly hated us...Europeans are guilty of rapes, lynchings, enslavement, stolen names, stolen rituals, stolen land, stolen resources, mass murderings, misinformation, deception, destruction, pestilence, etc...all these atrocities were committed against the black man (and other darker races) by the European and their descaendants... and we're supposed to let these people tell us who God is????.... thats like getting tips on how to raise your child from a convicted child molester... thats the epitome of gullibilty and foolishness

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Reply #77 posted 03/25/21 9:10am

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TonyVanDam said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I always thought it was an individuals choice... Black folk have always chose since I was alive, Christianity, NOI, 5%ers, agnostic, atheist, Yoruba, Egyptology, Rastafarian, Buddist, Wiccan etc

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Not to sound like Dr. Claude Anderson or Kanye West, but Black folks also have/had a choice to be free & independent, or be a slave!

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Most of the time, fear is the reason why black folks and some people in general choose to stay a slave. And fear mongering is one of the best pyschological weapons of choice that all religious fundamentalists used to keep their slaves.....oops, I mean brethens in check.

they need to feel free to walk away from the Democratic party too, i think this is actually harder

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Reply #78 posted 03/25/21 10:33am

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IMHO black Americans are the most outspoken across the diaspora, we tend to inspire others, so I'm not sure if that's because of or inspite of any religion.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


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Reply #79 posted 03/25/21 10:34am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

TonyVanDam said:

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Not to sound like Dr. Claude Anderson or Kanye West, but Black folks also have/had a choice to be free & independent, or be a slave!

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Most of the time, fear is the reason why black folks and some people in general choose to stay a slave. And fear mongering is one of the best pyschological weapons of choice that all religious fundamentalists used to keep their slaves.....oops, I mean brethens in check.

they need to feel free to walk away from the Democratic party too, i think this is actually harder

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That is the easy part, IMO. All they have to do is register as independent voters instead of Democratic OR Republican. Also, they need to keep an open mind for 3rd party & independent candidates.

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Reply #80 posted 03/25/21 10:47am

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TonyVanDam said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

they need to feel free to walk away from the Democratic party too, i think this is actually harder

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That is the easy part, IMO. All they have to do is register as independent voters instead of Democratic OR Republican. Also, they need to keep an open mind for 3rd party & independent candidates.

actually their political ideals are not that easily removed. the Democratic party actually defines a lot. Just changing a registration would take someone deconstructing their ideologies, race, belief/non belief, sex/sexuality, gender, financial ideals etc So it's not that easy. For many their political ideology has replaced religion.

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We already know most people are lazy when it comes to research and keeping open minds to 3rd parties.

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Reply #81 posted 03/25/21 10:52am

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RJOrion said:

why would ANY logical or reasonably intelligent person of color follow the Eurpean teachings of religion, spirituality or GOD?...these are the people who have for centuries openly hated us...Europeans are guilty of rapes, lynchings, enslavement, stolen names, stolen rituals, stolen land, stolen resources, mass murderings, misinformation, deception, destruction, pestilence, etc...all these atrocities were committed against the black man (and other darker races) by the European and their descaendants... and we're supposed to let these people tell us who God is????.... thats like getting tips on how to raise your child from a convicted child molester... thats the epitome of gullibilty and foolishness

Game, Set, Match.

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Reply #82 posted 03/25/21 11:19am

IanRG

RJOrion said:

jaawwnn said:

In what way is the trinity idea "illogical" and what does being logical have to do with anything here? Nevermind going into which Europeans were considered "white", and when... And who was allowed be part of Europe, and what the concept of Europe meant... and in which time period. Jeez, we could go on and on [Edited 3/25/21 7:10am]

the idea that 1 Omnipotent God would be divided into a Son, a father, and a so called Holy Ghost (spirit) is completely nonsensical and illogical...on so many different levels..too many to discuss on a blog.... the whole trinity concept was based on Sun worship and Horus, Set and Osiris.... the "Son" is actually "The Sun"....but most dont overstand due to the years of lies and brainwashing

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Thinking that Son and Sun are confused is a sign of being brainwashed - It is common myth that falls apart as soon as you realise that this only works in English.

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Reply #83 posted 03/25/21 11:36am

RJOrion

IanRG said:



RJOrion said:




jaawwnn said:


In what way is the trinity idea "illogical" and what does being logical have to do with anything here? Nevermind going into which Europeans were considered "white", and when... And who was allowed be part of Europe, and what the concept of Europe meant... and in which time period. Jeez, we could go on and on [Edited 3/25/21 7:10am]



the idea that 1 Omnipotent God would be divided into a Son, a father, and a so called Holy Ghost (spirit) is completely nonsensical and illogical...on so many different levels..too many to discuss on a blog.... the whole trinity concept was based on Sun worship and Horus, Set and Osiris.... the "Son" is actually "The Sun"....but most dont overstand due to the years of lies and brainwashing



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Thinking that Son and Sun are confused is a sign of being brainwashed - It is common myth that falls apart as soon as you realise that this only works in English.



thats where youre wrong...the King James Bible IS written in English...by and for English speaking people... and English is based
on and derived from Latin...same as the other European languages...so more than just English speakers were hoodwinked...its all of Europe...and by Europe invading and "colonizing" the rest of the free world and forcing their "beliefs" on the indigenous peoples of those lands through their violent "crusades", they were able to forcefully spread their so called christian doctrine all over the world...by force
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Reply #84 posted 03/25/21 11:43am

RJOrion

besides...no where in the Bible does it teach that there is a so called trinity, nor does it ever say prayers must be in the name of Jesus the Christ... nor does it say he is god or part of a 3 headed GodHead...
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Reply #85 posted 03/25/21 11:54am

IanRG

RJOrion said:

Graycap23 said:

JESUS IS 100% fairly tale. At least with The Summarians, there are artifacts, texts, etc....

Where is the Jesus artifacts? Texts? etc?

WORD.... the whole concept of The Trinity is an illogical Fairy Tale, conceived by Europeans (Whites) at the Council Of Nicea ... some 400 years after the death of the alleged Christ figure...and yes, there are unlimited artifacts proving the existence of The Sumerians and Enlil (Elil), Anu, Enki, etc....Christianity was used in conjunction with slavery, to brainwash and control not only the minds, but the souls and spirits of the mighty Africans, who were raped and bought and sold here in America, the Carribean, and Europe...

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You need to look at a map of where Nicea is.

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Also the Council was less than 300 after Jesus' Crucifixion and Resurrection (325AD).

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The discussion at this council was on the relationship between God the Father and God the Son and it did not create the concept of the triune God. It already existed as the mainstream understanding of Christ's teaching about His relationship with God the Father. It was raised by an Egyptian, Arius, and his followers because they accepted Jesus' teachings about this but they disputed the triune God concept accepted by mainstream Christians - Arius believed that Jesus was not one with God, the Father. The Council found this to be a heresy.

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No one doubts that Sumerians existed, but make no mistake, there is zero evidence that Enlil and Enki walked the earth before humans.

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Reply #86 posted 03/25/21 11:58am

IanRG

RJOrion said:

IanRG said:

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Thinking that Son and Sun are confused is a sign of being brainwashed - It is common myth that falls apart as soon as you realise that this only works in English.

thats where youre wrong...the King James Bible IS written in English...by and for English speaking people... and English is based on and derived from Latin...same as the other European languages...so more than just English speakers were hoodwinked...its all of Europe...and by Europe invading and "colonizing" the rest of the free world and forcing their "beliefs" on the indigenous peoples of those lands through their violent "crusades", they were able to forcefully spread their so called christian doctrine all over the world...by force

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The King James Bible is NOT the first Bible.

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English is not dervived from Latin, its base roots are Germanic. The latin word for son is filius and for sun is sol - Your myth simply does not hold up to any analysis. You are hoodwinking yourself.

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Reply #87 posted 03/25/21 12:04pm

IanRG

RJOrion said:

besides...no where in the Bible does it teach that there is a so called trinity, nor does it ever say prayers must be in the name of Jesus the Christ... nor does it say he is god or part of a 3 headed GodHead...

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The term Trinity is not in the Bible but the concept is based directly on the words of Jesus about his relationship with the God, The Father.

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In John 14:9 Jesus says when Philip asks to see the Father: Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, so why are you asking me to show you the Father.

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Reply #88 posted 03/25/21 2:14pm

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RJOrion said:

why would ANY logical or reasonably intelligent person of color follow the Eurpean teachings of religion, spirituality or GOD?...these are the people who have for centuries openly hated us...Europeans are guilty of rapes, lynchings, enslavement, stolen names, stolen rituals, stolen land, stolen resources, mass murderings, misinformation, deception, destruction, pestilence, etc...all these atrocities were committed against the black man (and other darker races) by the European and their descaendants... and we're supposed to let these people tell us who God is????.... thats like getting tips on how to raise your child from a convicted child molester... thats the epitome of gullibilty and foolishness

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IanRG said:



RJOrion said:


besides...no where in the Bible does it teach that there is a so called trinity, nor does it ever say prayers must be in the name of Jesus the Christ... nor does it say he is god or part of a 3 headed GodHead...

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The term Trinity is not in the Bible but the concept is based directly on the words of Jesus about his relationship with the God, The Father.


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In John 14:9 Jesus says when Philip asks to see the Father: Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, so why are you asking me to show you the Father.



in no way does that foretell or describe or detail that the Almighty God is a 3 headed deity, which includes this mysterious so called "Holy Spirit".. if thats your proof, youve failed badly to prove anything
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