Thank you Jesus !

jjhunsecker said:

so,let's see.....this makes Trump a failed,one-term president who was impeached TWICE.

what a disaster

2elijah said:

These repubs at least had the courage to vote to impeach trump. https://www.cnn.com/polit...index.html These are the 10 GOP members who voted to impeach Trump From CNN's Capitol Hill unit The House just voted to impeach President Trump for a second time for his role in last week's deadly Capitol riot. Ten Republicans joined their Democratic colleagues in voting in favor of the impeachment resolution. They are: Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington Rep. John Katko of New York Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina Rep. David Valadao of California

Why did Pence cave in ? It´s because of Trump that his life was in danger and people wanted him dead. Does that guy have a backbone at all?

KoolEaze said:

2elijah said:

These repubs at least had the courage to vote to impeach trump. https://www.cnn.com/polit...index.html These are the 10 GOP members who voted to impeach Trump From CNN's Capitol Hill unit The House just voted to impeach President Trump for a second time for his role in last week's deadly Capitol riot. Ten Republicans joined their Democratic colleagues in voting in favor of the impeachment resolution. They are: Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington Rep. John Katko of New York Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina Rep. David Valadao of California

Why did Pence cave in ? It´s because of Trump that his life was in danger and people wanted him dead. Does that guy have a backbone at all?

Pence is a spineless coward who is too afraid to stand up to Trump.

As for a Mike Pence, If these Trump supporters was threatening me I would be Scared to death....

KoolEaze said:

KoolEaze said:

2elijah said:

These repubs at least had the courage to vote to impeach trump. https://www.cnn.com/polit...index.html These are the 10 GOP members who voted to impeach Trump From CNN's Capitol Hill unit The House just voted to impeach President Trump for a second time for his role in last week's deadly Capitol riot. Ten Republicans joined their Democratic colleagues in voting in favor of the impeachment resolution. They are: Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington Rep. John Katko of New York Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina Rep. David Valadao of California

Why did Pence cave in ? It´s because of Trump that his life was in danger and people wanted him dead. Does that guy have a backbone at all?

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Political expedience. The GOP base retains a large number of people that do not believe their people were responsible for the failed coup attempt, do not believe that the coup leader is responsible for it or do not believe that the coup attempt was more than a "scary brief event" of less significance than other recent protests.

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Pence needs to look to the future and limit the damage to the party and the divisions within it. Especially how this division between the moderates more scared of "socialism" and the hard line racists, nationalist, fascists, Christian far-right, anti-government far-right and the gun lobby has been widened by the coup leader as President during his term and since he lost the election, especially on the 6th January. Pence is concerned that disaffecting the coup leader's base will see his party in opposition for another 2 terms because at the end of these terms they will have out of government for 16 of the previous 20 years.

As I said I have seen several big lawyers say they may not even be able to hold the trial. And even if they do it will be hard to get 17ish republicans to agree with conviction. And then the fact that most if not all of the trial would be after he was out of office and YES there was a case of this before but that person was acquitted and as far as I know did not challenged it. And it is not a legal or citable precedent as it was not challenged and it ended in an acquittal. And Trump can and likly will sue to stop it as soon as he leaves office.

I say now that even if he is convited it will be overturned...But he will not be convicted. I am not sure they will even hold the trial.

SoulAlive said:

He doesn’t understand that his legacy is completely ruined.He will frequently be referred to as “disgraced former president Trump”.

yup he joins clinton who's charges were actual crimes...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

KoolEaze said:

Why did Pence cave in ? It´s because of Trump that his life was in danger and people wanted him dead. Does that guy have a backbone at all?

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Political expedience. The GOP base retains a large number of people that do not believe their people were responsible for the failed coup attempt, do not believe that the coup leader is responsible for it or do not believe that the coup attempt was more than a "scary brief event" of less significance than other recent protests.

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Pence needs to look to the future and limit the damage to the party and the divisions within it. Especially how this division between the moderates more scared of "socialism" and the hard line racists, nationalist, fascists, Christian far-right, anti-government far-right and the gun lobby has been widened by the coup leader as President during his term and since he lost the election, especially on the 6th January. Pence is concerned that disaffecting the coup leader's base will see his party in opposition for another 2 terms because at the end of these terms they will have out of government for 16 of the previous 20 years.

I see. Thanks a lot for summing it up so nicely.

he is the impeachment record! he is the best!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

As I said I have seen several big lawyers say they may not even be able to hold the trial. And even if they do it will be hard to get 17ish republicans to agree with conviction. And then the fact that most if not all of the trial would be after he was out of office and YES there was a case of this before but that person was acquitted and as far as I know did not challenged it. And it is not a legal or citable precedent as it was not challenged and it ended in an acquittal. And Trump can and likly will sue to stop it as soon as he leaves office.

I say now that even if he is convited it will be overturned...But he will not be convicted. I am not sure they will even hold the trial.

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We have seen how many of the claims by lawyers expressing views in favour of the coup leader have turned out.

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You keep on making the same mistake - there is both no method of challenging an impeachment judgement and no requirement that legal precedent can only be determined by a legal challenge or a guilty verdict. On the contrary, the courts have decided that they cannot act on an impeachment decision.

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Whether the Senate chooses to decide to hear the case and what part any other court can play is not decided how you think it is.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

SoulAlive said:

He doesn’t understand that his legacy is completely ruined.He will frequently be referred to as “disgraced former president Trump”.

yup he joins clinton who's charges were actual crimes...

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The coup leader has twice been charged with sets of charges for actual crimes - the incitement to violence in a failed coup attempt that attempted to overturn an election result, killed 5 people, injured many others where this could have been much worse with the personal threat to Pence specifically and all the members of Congress is much more serious than perjury in regard to a personal affair. Both were charged with obstruction.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

SoulAlive said:

He doesn’t understand that his legacy is completely ruined.He will frequently be referred to as “disgraced former president Trump”.

yup he joins clinton who's charges were actual crimes...

The blowjob thing?

KoolEaze said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

yup he joins clinton who's charges were actual crimes...

The blowjob thing?

I like how trumpers were like "whatever sex Trump had was before the job as president and outside of the white house", and now trumpers have literally pissed and shit in the halls and rooms of the capitol building.

ufoclub said:

Trump couldn't even get through his last few weeks in office without getting impeached again

he'll be remembered as the president who was always in trouble,or in some kind of scandal