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Reply #30 posted 01/09/21 4:38am

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Wishful thinking.
43% of the nation is super ignorant when it comes to social issues. No way that’s going to change any time soon. If anything, they are going to double down big time.

Ben Shapiro is young and he is seeing big dollar signs right and a long prosperous career ahead. Same with that Hawley character. Ditto Tucker Carlson.
There is way too much money to make on red states. Especially right now.
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With Biden in office, Fox News ratings are going to skyrocket. It’s a good time to be in the GOP. They live off moments like this. They make way more money attacking a democratic administration than defending a sleazeball like Trump. They got patents on their faux outrage tactics.
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It’s about how to successfully play the ‘manipulation’ and ‘control’ game, moreso than whether it’s red or blue states. Remember, Trump has always been a conman. As far as FOX, they will attack any president that’s Democratic or a repub that doesn’t play into their agenda, so that’s nothing new and won’t change.

Hawley, Cruz and the other asswipes like Trump, will eventually have their chickens coming home to roost in the end, if they haven’t learned anything from what’s happening to trump now. It’s greed and power that will eventually sink them if they’re not careful.

If Cruz is ousted, he’ll just latch on to trump’s supporters and make money off of them, by promoting the same lies/conspiracy theories that he learned from trump. Trump successfully manipulated his base, and made money off of them, by selling them what he knew they wanted to hear. He played on the fears/insecurities/ignorance/racial biases of White supremacists/nazi supporters/White nationalists, including promoting the same towards Whites in rural areas, and White Suburbans.

Bannon, Guiliani and Hannity helped him stir the pots of ‘manipulation’ and ‘control’. Now it’s exactly what sank his presidency/legacy. His legal issues existed before his presidency, so he will still have to face that. He’ll still have money that he will continue to make money from his delusional followers, because he successfully, made it to ‘Cult leader’ status, by manipulating, brainwashing/conning his supporters. He is obsessed with power, and his supporters gave that to him. Sadly, many in Congress saw what was happening, but made no ‘real effort’ to stop his madness, and only now they wait until this tragedy happened to take action.

Many of us here kept saying Trump would get to ‘that point’ of extreme obsession with power, and questioned why no one was really doing anything to stop him,
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Reply #31 posted 01/09/21 6:04am

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2elijah said:

v10letblues said:
Wishful thinking. 43% of the nation is super ignorant when it comes to social issues. No way that’s going to change any time soon. If anything, they are going to double down big time. Ben Shapiro is young and he is seeing big dollar signs right and a long prosperous career ahead. Same with that Hawley character. Ditto Tucker Carlson. There is way too much money to make on red states. Especially right now. . With Biden in office, Fox News ratings are going to skyrocket. It’s a good time to be in the GOP. They live off moments like this. They make way more money attacking a democratic administration than defending a sleazeball like Trump. They got patents on their faux outrage tactics. [Edited 1/9/21 0:11am]
It’s about how to successfully play the ‘manipulation’ and ‘control’ game, moreso than whether it’s red or blue states. Remember, Trump has always been a conman. As far as FOX, they will attack any president that’s Democratic or a repub that doesn’t play into their agenda, so that’s nothing new and won’t change. Hawley, Cruz and the other asswipes like Trump, will eventually have their chickens coming home to roost in the end, if they haven’t learned anything from what’s happening to trump now. It’s greed and power that will eventually sink them if they’re not careful. If Cruz is ousted, he’ll just latch on to trump’s supporters and make money off of them, by promoting the same lies/conspiracy theories that he learned from trump. Trump successfully manipulated his base, and made money off of them, by selling them what he knew they wanted to hear. He played on the fears/insecurities/ignorance/racial biases of White supremacists/nazi supporters/White nationalists, including promoting the same towards Whites in rural areas, and White Suburbans. Bannon, Guiliani and Hannity helped him stir the pots of ‘manipulation’ and ‘control’. Now it’s exactly what sank his presidency/legacy. His legal issues existed before his presidency, so he will still have to face that. He’ll still have money that he will continue to make money from his delusional followers, because he successfully, made it to ‘Cult leader’ status, by manipulating, brainwashing/conning his supporters. He is obsessed with power, and his supporters gave that to him. Sadly, many in Congress saw what was happening, but made no ‘real effort’ to stop his madness, and only now they wait until this tragedy happened to take action. Many of us here kept saying Trump would get to ‘that point’ of extreme obsession with power, and questioned why no one was really doing anything to stop him, [Edited 1/9/21 4:51am]

Trump pretty much proved that he could in fact do something heinous on 5th Ave and not lose support. His supporters are still with him. Even after all of this, they are still with him.

MAGA nutters are some hardcore white-trash ride or die bitches. Fox News and Ted Cruz will politically cum on their face and spin this in whatever way these people can swallow. Yes they swallow.

And these peope are not going anywhere after Trump is gone. They are going to dig back into their echochamber and find someone else they can cling to. And Fox News and the GOP are going to be there with open arms and pants unzipped waiting to bend them over.

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Reply #32 posted 01/09/21 6:53am

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v10letblues said:



2elijah said:


v10letblues said:
Wishful thinking. 43% of the nation is super ignorant when it comes to social issues. No way that’s going to change any time soon. If anything, they are going to double down big time. Ben Shapiro is young and he is seeing big dollar signs right and a long prosperous career ahead. Same with that Hawley character. Ditto Tucker Carlson. There is way too much money to make on red states. Especially right now. . With Biden in office, Fox News ratings are going to skyrocket. It’s a good time to be in the GOP. They live off moments like this. They make way more money attacking a democratic administration than defending a sleazeball like Trump. They got patents on their faux outrage tactics. [Edited 1/9/21 0:11am]

It’s about how to successfully play the ‘manipulation’ and ‘control’ game, moreso than whether it’s red or blue states. Remember, Trump has always been a conman. As far as FOX, they will attack any president that’s Democratic or a repub that doesn’t play into their agenda, so that’s nothing new and won’t change. Hawley, Cruz and the other asswipes like Trump, will eventually have their chickens coming home to roost in the end, if they haven’t learned anything from what’s happening to trump now. It’s greed and power that will eventually sink them if they’re not careful. If Cruz is ousted, he’ll just latch on to trump’s supporters and make money off of them, by promoting the same lies/conspiracy theories that he learned from trump. Trump successfully manipulated his base, and made money off of them, by selling them what he knew they wanted to hear. He played on the fears/insecurities/ignorance/racial biases of White supremacists/nazi supporters/White nationalists, including promoting the same towards Whites in rural areas, and White Suburbans. Bannon, Guiliani and Hannity helped him stir the pots of ‘manipulation’ and ‘control’. Now it’s exactly what sank his presidency/legacy. His legal issues existed before his presidency, so he will still have to face that. He’ll still have money that he will continue to make money from his delusional followers, because he successfully, made it to ‘Cult leader’ status, by manipulating, brainwashing/conning his supporters. He is obsessed with power, and his supporters gave that to him. Sadly, many in Congress saw what was happening, but made no ‘real effort’ to stop his madness, and only now they wait until this tragedy happened to take action. Many of us here kept saying Trump would get to ‘that point’ of extreme obsession with power, and questioned why no one was really doing anything to stop him, [Edited 1/9/21 4:51am]

Trump pretty much proved that he could in fact do something heinous on 5th Ave and not lose support. His supporters are still with him. Even after all of this, they are still with him.


MAGA nutters are some hardcore white-trash ride or die bitches. Fox News and Ted Cruz will politically cum on their face and spin this in whatever way these people can swallow. Yes they swallow.



And these peope are not going anywhere after Trump is gone. They are going to dig back into their echochamber and find someone else they can cling to. And Fox News and the GOP are going to be there with open arms and pants unzipped waiting to bend them over.

[Edited 1/9/21 6:17am]


Agree.
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Reply #33 posted 01/09/21 7:52am

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The Murdock family recently sold off their entertainment divisions, television networks and movie division to Disney. But they kept Fox News, the New York Post and The Wall Street Journal. They make a shit load of money off of Fox News. They could care less abut their television network on movie studio as they don't make anywhere near aas much money from it as Fox News.

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Ted Cruz, the GOP and Fox News know there is a lot of money to be made off the 43%, they have cornered the market. It is a cash cow. Sowing division and hate is very profitable. Bowing down to special intrests is very profitable. The two things together mesh quite nicely. A propaganda arm to asuge corparate intrests and sway their base is genious.

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The GOP will be just fine, the far right will be double down. Diffrent faces same shit.

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Reply #34 posted 01/09/21 10:33pm

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ALL of the major publications/news outlets are partisan; propaganda exists on both sides. It's

a drag trying to find objective news.

Gotta try to decipher what is true...Owners, editors, journalists are in the spin business (both sides)

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Reply #35 posted 01/10/21 12:09am

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Margot said:

ALL of the major publications/news outlets are partisan; propaganda exists on both sides. It's

a drag trying to find objective news.

Gotta try to decipher what is true...Owners, editors, journalists are in the spin business (both sides)

[Edited 1/9/21 22:33pm]

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As the OP is about the election and run off elections resulting in the GOP losing the Senate and Presidency and no winning back the House, this is the result.

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All the major publications/news outlets agree on this so there is nothing left to decipher.

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Reply #36 posted 01/10/21 4:54am

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It’s such a pleasure knowing trump will no longer be president, that McConnell will no longer be the majority leader for the GOP and that the Democrats successfully won the Senate. Thanks Georgia!
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Reply #37 posted 01/10/21 4:59am

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Margot said:

ALL of the major publications/news outlets are partisan; propaganda exists on both sides. It's

a drag trying to find objective news.

Gotta try to decipher what is true...Owners, editors, journalists are in the spin business (both sides)

[Edited 1/9/21 22:33pm]

and having said all that, that is why we must all be so weary when a President wants to take action on another country or entity. As you just mentioned, it's bard enough that we need to be cautious about what is really going on in our own country, with live news feeds that we see with our eyes,and have family members there, and know the general state of our own country, to then take for granted what a politician says about another country.

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Case in point Iraq.

Case in point Vietnam.

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Hopefully, after Americans have seen first hand how deranged our own presidents can be, our own politicians, the media, and they will be weary and extra cautious to take anything they say as true.

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I mean all of this is obvious, but sometiimes when it all smacks you in the face like this, we have to say it out loud and let this affirmation set in.

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Reply #38 posted 01/10/21 5:05am

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This seals it.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/...index.html


David Perdue concedes Georgia Senate race to Jon Ossoff

By Caroline Kelly, CNN
Updated 5:57 PM EST, Fri January 08, 2021

Georgia Sen. David Perdue has conceded the Georgia US Senate runoff race to Jon Ossoff, he announced Friday, making it official that Democrats will take control of the Senate and giving them control of Congress for the first time in a decade.

"Although we won the general election, we came up just short of Georgia's 50% rule, and now I want to congratulate the Democratic Party and my opponent for this runoff win," Perdue wrote. "Bonnie and I will continue to pray for our wonderful state and our great country. May God continue to bless Georgia and the United States of America."
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Reply #39 posted 01/10/21 5:31am

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Well Violet, I guess it’s no surprise these two are trying to be the new ‘Trump’ of the GOP.


https://www.politico.com/...ots-456671


By MARIANNE LEVINE, HOLLY OTTERBEIN and BURGESS EVERETT
01/09/2021 10:12 AM EST

“Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz have positioned themselves as heirs to President Donald Trump’s base. But their decision to embrace Trump’s election challenge is fueling major blowback — even as they remain largely unrepentant after this week’s deadly riot.

Following the insurrection at the Capitol, the potential 2024 presidential candidates are facing Democratic calls to resign and charges from their own party that they incited violence in the name of political opportunism. Cruz said that such allegations were “ludicrous.”


What I was doing was the exact opposite of inciting violence,” the Texas Republican said in an interview. “What I was doing is debating principle and law and the Constitution on the floor of the United States Senate. That is how we resolve issues in this country without resorting to violence.”

Hawley, who was photographed fist pumping protesters before they raided the Capitol, declined to be interviewed for this story.

In questioning the election results, the senators aligned themselves with Trump and his most hard-core supporters’ baseless claims of widespread voter fraud. Some in Trumpworld are still cheering them on, and they may ultimately win support from the party’s base if they run for president. But after rioters stormed the Capitol in a bid to halt certification of Joe Biden’s election, Hawley and Cruz are facing immediate consequences.

Hawley’s political patron, former Sen. John Danforth (R-Mo.), turned on him, calling his support the “biggest mistake I’ve ever made.” His top donor, David Humphreys, said he should be censured. Hawley’s book publisher dropped him, interfering with a key element of many presidential campaigns. Cruz, meanwhile, is facing a redux of the backlash he received for egging on a shutdown in 2013 over a failed effort to defund Obamacare.”
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Reply #40 posted 01/10/21 6:37am

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Margot said:

ALL of the major publications/news outlets are partisan; propaganda exists on both sides. It's

a drag trying to find objective news.

Gotta try to decipher what is true...Owners, editors, journalists are in the spin business (both sides)

[Edited 1/9/21 22:33pm]

Looks like to me you can find the truth in the videos that were shown of it going down in the Capitol.

The only spin going on, is the fox media trying to blame it on Antifa and BLM, when we can see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears, that it was Maga.

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Reply #41 posted 01/10/21 7:19am

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Margot said:


ALL of the major publications/news outlets are partisan; propaganda exists on both sides. It's


a drag trying to find objective news.


Gotta try to decipher what is true...Owners, editors, journalists are in the spin business (both sides)


[Edited 1/9/21 22:33pm]



Looks like to me you can find the truth in the videos that were shown of it going down in the Capitol.


The only spin going on, is the fox media trying to blame it on Antifa and BLM, when we can see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears, that it was Maga.


Exactly. If anyone can’t see all the evidence in the videos, then they’re choosing to find a reason to ignore the evidence that presents itself full force. Millions watched it on tv in real time, as the rioters stormed the steps of the Capitol and entered the building. Crazy.
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Reply #42 posted 01/10/21 9:48am

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This is the reason the National Guard was delayed. They couldn’t cross them not DC without the permission of the Secretary of Defense, so why didn’t the SOD respond rapidly? So many quest, few answers.

https://www.cnn.com/polit...index.html

11:46 a.m. ET, January 10, 2021
Maryland governor says National Guard authorization was delayed nearly 2-hours on Wednesday
From CNN's Sheena Jones


“Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said within “minutes” of Wednesday’s attack on the Capitol, the Maryland National Guard was called in but authorization was delayed for 90-minutes, the governor told CNN today.

“Our guard was mobilized and ready,” but the National Guard couldn’t cross the DC border to help, Hogan said, because they couldn’t get approval from officials.
Since Washington, DC, does not have a governor, permission to activate the National Guard in DC must come from the office of the Secretary of Defense.

When asked why it took so long, Hogan replied, “We were trying to get answers, but we couldn’t get answers.”

At a news conference earlier this week in Maryland, the governor further explained the exchange.”
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Reply #43 posted 01/12/21 12:10pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #44 posted 01/13/21 7:22am

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Good theme song for them:

https://www.youtube.com/w...Tc7uqFRTDI

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #46 posted 01/13/21 6:30pm

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Image may contain: 3 people, text that says 'Jesse Thee Slade @Jesse_bslade Republicans: "This impeachment is being rushed" Republicans the week RBG died: HOEL AmyConey Samen'

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Reply #47 posted 01/14/21 8:42pm

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lol Trump is the laughingstock of the entire world right now
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Reply #48 posted 01/15/21 9:54am

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Civil, lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #49 posted 01/15/21 11:38am

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If Trump would have taken my advice he would be way better off... if mitch would have not refused to vote for covid check the Senate my not have turned over.

If you do not defended some speech you abhor then you do NOT support free speech.
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Reply #50 posted 01/15/21 11:49am

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the most disastrous presidency ever,lol
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Reply #51 posted 01/15/21 12:31pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

If Trump would have taken my advice he would be way better off... if mitch would have not refused to vote for covid check the Senate my not have turned over.

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Your's and billions of others around the world.

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Perhaps you should not have buried your "advice" behind so much blind support for all his positions and deflections from all his extremes and failures.

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Mitch's position on the stimulus cheque was encouraged by all the people who made the arguments you made here in regard to this cheque.

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Reply #52 posted 01/15/21 1:19pm

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If Trump would have taken my advice he would be way better off



and what was your advice to him?

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Reply #53 posted 01/15/21 1:28pm

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How different is the modern GOP from the Manson family or the Unification Church?
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Reply #54 posted 01/15/21 1:40pm

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SoulAlive said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

If Trump would have taken my advice he would be way better off

and what was your advice to him?

Nov 6th it was to accept the results... back in 2015 it was to not run when the bus tape came out it was to drop out... of course I am SURE you understand what I meant when I said that?

If you do not defended some speech you abhor then you do NOT support free speech.
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Reply #55 posted 01/15/21 2:20pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

SoulAlive said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: and what was your advice to him?

Nov 6th it was to accept the results... back in 2015 it was to not run when the bus tape came out it was to drop out... of course I am SURE you understand what I meant when I said that?

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This is not true. Firstly the tape came out on 7 Ocober 2016 and so it ws too late for the coup leader to pull out - it is not possible that you advised him to drop out on this date.

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In 2016 you said you thought that this would kill his election chances BUT as soon as it looked like the GOP and his followers were prepared to turn a blind eye to his confession, you spent years being all about spreading the locker room talk defense and arguing that it was not a confession of sexual assault.

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From 6th Nov 2020 to 5th January 2021 you have been defending and promoting all the steps the coup leader made to reject the results. You have said that they are unlikely to change the result but you never advised the coup leader to not do all that he did in preparation for the failed coup attempt.

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Facts beat spin.

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Reply #56 posted 01/15/21 2:48pm

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never mind i need to ignore incivility


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Reply #57 posted 01/15/21 3:04pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

never mind i need to ignore incivility

[Edited 1/15/21 14:48pm]

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Sorry I missed your post here, I am sure it was quite uncivil.

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As to pointing out that you got your dates wrong by a year so it was too late for the coup leader to stop seaking to be the GOP presidential candidate, how is this uncivil?

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Pointing out that you have been defending virtually every step the coup leader did in preparation for 6th January is not being uncivil. I was completely civil and fair by agreeing that you thought all these moves would not work but you stood by him doing them.

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Reply #58 posted 01/15/21 8:05pm

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At least Pence had the courtesy to congratulate Kamala Harris on her victory; Trump shows no such graciousness. Not only does he refuse to speak to Biden at all but he won't be attending the inaugeration... He'll be sulking and slinking out of town early with his tail between his legs.

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Reply #59 posted 01/15/21 8:24pm

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At least Pence had the courtesy to congratulate Kamala Harris on her victory; Trump shows no such graciousness. Not only does he refuse to speak to Biden at all but he won't be attending the inaugeration... He'll be sulking and slinking out of town early with his tail between his legs.



Trump is a disgrace and a national embarrassment.He will leave office,knowing that he is a failed,one term leader who was impeached twice.Worst president ever.
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