independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Forum jump
Forums > Politics & Religion > You gotta admit, Make America Great Again was a decent slogan.
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 11/24/20 12:08pm

2freaky4church
1

avatar

You gotta admit, Make America Great Again was a decent slogan.

When something works it works. MAGA was a decent sloagan because it meant what it meant to a nation of people who don't know much. We go where we are comfortable politically only. We avoid the other side like it is poison. MAGA worked because it was as empty as a dead egg. You could write your reality into that phraise. Noam Chomsky said it best, as he always does:

"That's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's going to be for. Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything."

Exactly. It means shit but it means everything. It can mean racism to a racist but joy to an unemployed worker. We will finally have a good country where people like me are helped. Why fascism works because good people have to fall for the slogans first for it to work.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 11/24/20 12:19pm

SoulAlive

Ironically,things will start getting “great” when Trump leaves office on January 20 biggrin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 11/24/20 12:25pm

IanRG

2freaky4church1 said:

When something works it works. MAGA was a decent sloagan because it meant what it meant to a nation of people who don't know much. We go where we are comfortable politically only. We avoid the other side like it is poison. MAGA worked because it was as empty as a dead egg. You could write your reality into that phraise. Noam Chomsky said it best, as he always does:

"That's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's going to be for. Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything."

Exactly. It means shit but it means everything. It can mean racism to a racist but joy to an unemployed worker. We will finally have a good country where people like me are helped. Why fascism works because good people have to fall for the slogans first for it to work.

.

If Chomsky said this in regard to MAGA, he is wrong. The problem with MAGA was it created arguments about USA's previous, current and future greatness. Something like "Yes we can" did not.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 11/24/20 12:59pm

OnlyNDaUsa

avatar

about the same as forward of yes we can or hope and change... or when bill clinton said he wanted to make America great again.

Most people that run for president have some slogan about how they will make America great or better....it would take a low level thinker to see it as anything other than that.

that being said i do not think PEDjOe had much of a slogan... which seems fit..

If you do not defended some speech you abhor then you do NOT support free speech.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 11/24/20 1:44pm

johnjames

It works if you are a vacuous dumb fuck I agree.

Anybody who has any shred of intelligence knows it exposed America's lack of greatness.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 11/24/20 1:49pm

SoulAlive

Trump didn't make America "great again".He made things worse.His agenda was based on hate,bigotry,division and racism.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 11/24/20 2:52pm

2elijah

avatar

SoulAlive said:

Trump didn't make America "great again".He made things worse.His agenda was based on hate,bigotry,division and racism.


Exactly, and that’s why he has a large, white supremacist following, because he was their last hope of starting the race war they always wanted, especially when trump spoke on immigration. They were hoping he would find a way to stop the browning of America. He was the voice of their hate ideology. He will more than likely find some form of media to push that agenda, and needs those supporters to con them into donations and spreading his message of fear, and racial division. That’s how he got them hooked in the first place. He knew they were that easy to con.
[Edited 11/24/20 14:54pm]
Always smile in the face of adversity. smile
America gave Trump his eviction notice on 11/3/20, and now he’s the only president in U.S. history to be impeached twice.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 11/24/20 3:08pm

SPYZFAN1

^^Pretty much this and what Soul said^^. The big thing that won him over with the racists and white supremacists is when he said; "The first thing that I would do when I get in the office is to build a wall"..hook, line and sinker. That resonated a lot with his following.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 11/24/20 3:12pm

jjhunsecker

avatar

One could say that it meant “When WHITE MEN ran everything.... and everyone else knew their place...”
#SOCIETYDEFINESU
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 11/24/20 3:38pm

SoulAlive

yep...when Trump and his supporters talked about “make America great again”,many of us know exactly what they really mean.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 11/24/20 6:00pm

SexyMuthaF

Damn... not one a ya mentioned the fact that MAGA was also used by reagan and both clintons.so all the crap you just said about trump for using it must also apply to Bill and Hillary
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 11/24/20 6:05pm

OnlyNDaUsa

avatar

Point of order this topic is not about the success of his admin but the effectiveness of the slogan.

If you do not defended some speech you abhor then you do NOT support free speech.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 11/24/20 6:06pm

OnlyNDaUsa

avatar

SoulAlive said:

yep...when Trump and his supporters talked about “make America great again”,many of us know exactly what they really mean.

no you don't

If you do not defended some speech you abhor then you do NOT support free speech.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 11/24/20 6:10pm

2elijah

avatar

SPYZFAN1 said:

^^Pretty much this and what Soul said^^. The big thing that won him over with the racists and white supremacists is when he said; "The first thing that I would do when I get in the office is to build a wall"..hook, line and sinker. That resonated a lot with his following.


Exactly. There is no denying, that Trump’s version of ‘MAGA’ represents racial division, hatred, chaos, and taking America back to pre-1964. Trump failed as a president. Thank goodness America voted him out.
[Edited 11/25/20 7:51am]
Always smile in the face of adversity. smile
America gave Trump his eviction notice on 11/3/20, and now he’s the only president in U.S. history to be impeached twice.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 11/24/20 6:31pm

SoulAlive

OnlyNDaUsa said:



SoulAlive said:


yep...when Trump and his supporters talked about “make America great again”,many of us know exactly what they really mean.



no you don't



yes we do
lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 11/25/20 4:59am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

It originated with Reagan

reagan.jpg

Let%27s_Make_America_Great_Again_button.jpeg

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
https://prince.org/msg/7/464433 9.24.2020
What's the matter with your life...?
https://www.youtube.com/w...nm2Qq6QTFs
#IDEFINEME
https://www.youtube.com/w...7Xc21b6BYE
Keep Looking
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 11/25/20 7:57am

2freaky4church
1

avatar

2Elijah, we need to get off the racism as a cause for everything jive.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 11/25/20 10:14am

2elijah

avatar

2freaky4church1 said:

2Elijah, we need to get off the racism as a cause for everything jive.


Who is ‘we?’

You can’t speak for my experience or anyone else’s. And what do you mean by ‘jive?’ popcorn
Always smile in the face of adversity. smile
America gave Trump his eviction notice on 11/3/20, and now he’s the only president in U.S. history to be impeached twice.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 11/25/20 10:40am

IanRG

OldFriends4Sale said:

It originated with Reagan

.

Yes, as mentioned above.

.

Slogans can be tweaked and repeated but you have to match the slogan to time and circumstances.

.

40 years ago was a different time and different circumstances. The county was going from disaster to disaster - Watergate, Ford, Opec oil shocks, Iran hostages, Billy Carter, stagflation, unemployment etc. Carter was a disaster of a president, but is the best former President in living memory. The slogan then matched what the majority of people wanted - a change in decade and President to move away from a disasterous 1970s - it was a slogan to look to the future because the last decade was not great.

.

In 2016 there was not the same universal feeling. The economy was growing, employment was growing, respect for the US was growing, The stockmarket was growing, etc.

.

trump was seeking to look to the past prior to there not being a black President against whom he had built his far-right conspiracy theory base with the birthers - for trump it was a slogan to look to the past by calling on the legacy of Reagan. Another difference: trump simplified it so he could trademark it, so MAGA dies with his presidency (although we may see it in 2024 if the GOP can't free itself of this disaster).

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 11/25/20 11:46am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

I know.

He was still a Democrat, who ran as a Republican. He backed Jesse Jacksons run for presidency twice.


I know there is a lot of triggers when it comes to him. I'm not, but I just simply posted the term originated wtih Reagan. Most people don't know that. Or forgot.

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
https://prince.org/msg/7/464433 9.24.2020
What's the matter with your life...?
https://www.youtube.com/w...nm2Qq6QTFs
#IDEFINEME
https://www.youtube.com/w...7Xc21b6BYE
Keep Looking
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 11/25/20 12:00pm

IanRG

OldFriends4Sale said:

I know.

He was still a Democrat, who ran as a Republican. He backed Jesse Jacksons run for presidency twice.


I know there is a lot of triggers when it comes to him. I'm not, but I just simply posted the term originated wtih Reagan. Most people don't know that. Or forgot.

.

I don't think he was ever really a republican or a democrat - just an opportunist who knew the power of media image

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 11/25/20 1:56pm

jjhunsecker

avatar

IanRG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I know.

He was still a Democrat, who ran as a Republican. He backed Jesse Jacksons run for presidency twice.


I know there is a lot of triggers when it comes to him. I'm not, but I just simply posted the term originated wtih Reagan. Most people don't know that. Or forgot.

.

I don't think he was ever really a republican or a democrat - just an opportunist who knew the power of media image

Trump has been in favor of one thing, and one thing only - whatever benefits him and his family. He will say or do anything to achieve that goal

#SOCIETYDEFINESU
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 11/25/20 2:38pm

SexyMuthaF

Thank you OldFriend for posting pictures I still cant figure out this TRC era website. Lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 11/25/20 4:11pm

slyjackson

OnlyNDaUsa said:

about the same as forward of yes we can or hope and change... or when bill clinton said he wanted to make America great again.

Most people that run for president have some slogan about how they will make America great or better....it would take a low level thinker to see it as anything other than that.

that being said i do not think PEDjOe had much of a slogan... which seems fit..

I only see one paedo here and that's you, watch out FBI might be watching your steps closely

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 11/25/20 5:15pm

SexyMuthaF

Freaky thank you for setting Elijah straight. He needs to stop using the race card as a crutch.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 11/25/20 5:23pm

2elijah

avatar

SexyMuthaF said:

Freaky thank you for setting Elijah straight. He needs to stop using the race card as a crutch.

Tsk, tsk You poor thing. comfort popcorn
[Edited 11/25/20 17:43pm]
Always smile in the face of adversity. smile
America gave Trump his eviction notice on 11/3/20, and now he’s the only president in U.S. history to be impeached twice.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 11/25/20 9:55pm

onlyforaminute

Everybody wishes for the good old days. Heck even in the time of Solomon people wanted what used to be. It really doesn't take genius to capitalize on that feeling. You left a platform that touted change, change, change. Then when manna didn't rain from the sky. Go to the next best thing, how things used to be.



...
[Edited 11/25/20 21:56pm]
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 11/25/20 10:34pm

SexyMuthaF

All the intelligent peeps know maga meant to go back to living in a safe country where crime is lower unemployment is lower borders are secure countries respect us and core values include family God and patriotism. Most of all freedom to speak and dowhatchalike as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 11/25/20 10:47pm

onlyforaminute

Ha! If we all could live off slogans.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 11/25/20 10:53pm

Graycap23

avatar

U can't make a country practing OPPRESSION 4 400 years plus anything but what it is.

Great certainly isn't one of them.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Politics & Religion > You gotta admit, Make America Great Again was a decent slogan.